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August 14, 2013 8:00am by Kokila Patel

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Kea

PS If that fat kraut criminal ‘dotcom’ is agaist it, it must be a good one.
PPS The sooner that fat kraut is extradited to face Justice the better.

bereal, based on that logic we should send you for trial in Saudi Arabia for drinking booze. What the laws are in some other place run by a black warlord, are not relevant to NZ.
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August 14, 2013 4:55pm
nickb

Damn. I am so hard wired to thumbs down beryl I actually gave him one for a funny. Sorry.
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August 14, 2013 4:56pm
thedavincimode

The first time you are in a position to cast a deciding vote you will have a stroke, or a
heart attack, or both.

Come come beryl. He won’t need to make a decision. Who’s he gunna call …?
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August 14, 2013 4:57pm
bereal

Regarding the GCSB bill….

It’s just not on. Think of those poor muslims who went all the way to Yemen to
get trained in terrorism.

Those poor sods have a right to their privacy, surely.
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August 14, 2013 4:59pm
thedavincimode

Judging from some of the content of some of GD today, will it be long before somebody makes an irate phone call to Penny demanding that he cease and desist or face expulsion from a certain newly registered party?
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August 14, 2013 5:02pm
thedavincimode

And on an international note, isn’t it great that Matamata vet and “high performance” farm consultant Frank Rowson decided to go public with his Fonterra botulism theory. I wonder if the rest of the world will notice. I also wonder if he thought to raise it with MPI or Fonterra first before going global, or at least provide them with an opportunity to respond.

Thanks Frank.
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August 14, 2013 5:09pm
thedavincimode

edit

I also wonder if any of Frank’s high performance and veterinary clients will be appreciative of his efforts on their behalves. No doubt he’s being swamped with messages of congratulation and support even as I type.
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August 14, 2013 5:13pm
Nookin

Macdee

“Surely this statement is incorrect. The intention of the previous law was to allow the GCSB to ‘monitor’ NZ residents for the police and SIS but because of poor drafting it was overturned by the courts. Hence the need to revise it.”

You first assertion is correct. However, it is not correct to say that the practice was “overturned by the courts”. Rebecca Kitteridge reported that there was sufficient doubt as to the generally accepted interpretation as to warrant an amendment in eliminating all doubt. Basically, she said that it is much better to deal with it now rather than take the risk of a judge throwing out evidence obtained as a result of unwarranted surveillance. As recently as the last week or so, Helen Clark reiterated her view that the legislation meant what it said and said what it was meant to say but that if there were any problems, it needed to be fixed up PDQ. She also delivered a serve to the Labour Party and the Greens – pointing out that this was not an issue of petty party politics but was a matter that should be dealt with across the political divide.
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August 14, 2013 5:30pm
leftyliberal

@macdee: “Hence the need to revise it.”

Agreed that it needs revision. However, the revision makes things worse. A useful writeup is here:

http://techliberty.org.nz/gcsb-spying-on-new-zealanders/
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August 14, 2013 5:34pm
macdee

Nookin

wasn’t the Kitteridge report commissioned following Winkleman’s rejection of the legislation in the Dotcom case?
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August 14, 2013 5:48pm
lilman

I see one Fonterra manager has resigned ,now just Wilson and Theo to join and I would be happy.Imagine the bonus hes gonna get?
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August 14, 2013 6:22pm
bereal

Hey nickb @ 4.56

No need to apologise babe i know i can always count on you for a thumbs
down.
And as you are the most prolific poster on this blog since philu and are always here
all day long evry day i expect it from you any time of the day or night.

No worries.
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August 14, 2013 6:22pm
Reid

30 mins from SF to LA, from the guy who founded Paypal and Tesla.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/12/hyperloop-alpha-elon-musk_n_3745505.html#slide=2795361
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August 14, 2013 6:27pm
Griff

Beryl
kea is the most prolific poster I have seen on kb

Kea (6,725) In less than a year.

PG has a obsessive stalker. Sort of like a creepy fan really
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August 14, 2013 6:34pm
bereal

Just watched the Prime Minister interviewed by John Campbell on TV3

Well done John Key.

Campbell had all his gotcha stuff ready, JK batted it all off, remained calm, made total sense
with every reply and showed Campbell up for what he really is.
Just a piece of progressive shit.
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August 14, 2013 7:25pm
bereal

Yep Griff, you could be right,

but young nickb is up to 2500 plus and has only been here 5 minutes.

At this rate, in a year nickb will make Kea, PG, and philu look like sooks.
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August 14, 2013 7:31pm
nickb

I’ve been here since you were in diapers beryl (adult diapers).
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August 14, 2013 7:34pm
Viking2

The fishy GCSB Debate.

http://screencast.com/t/zlZPg3meeEga 😆
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August 14, 2013 7:43pm
Viking2

More fishy stuff from around town.

http://screencast.com/t/Ry7ZEPuT
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August 14, 2013 7:46pm
Kea

Griff (5,561) Says:
August 14th, 2013 at 6:34 pm
Beryl
kea is the most prolific poster I have seen on kb

Griff, remind KB readers how many blogs and forums you post your climate hysteria on ? I only comment here 🙂
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August 14, 2013 7:48pm
nasska

The wife of the newly sentenced prisoner was allowed one last visit before he started his sentence.

“I’ve baked you a cake,” she winked and lowered her voice, “I’ve hidden something inside it that might help you in prison.”

“What is it?” he whispered, “A file?”

“No silly. A tub of Vaseline.”
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August 14, 2013 8:00pm
Pete George

Some of GD today was quite funny, and some was hilarious, especially the obsessed Winston worriers looking increasingly desperate.

Bereal – I’ve been busy on some big decisions today, getting some good advice. All local. And I enjoyed Key make his case, albeit belatedly. He has let the hysteria go on too long.
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August 14, 2013 8:09pm
nickb

and some was hilarious

Glad you appreciate it Penny.

Peter Dunne owns the greatest Poker Face of all-time. It helped him win the 1983 World Series of Poker despite him holding just a Joker, a Get out of Jail Free Monopoly card, a 2 of clubs, 7 of spades and a green #4 card from the game Uno.

Peter Dunne can kill two stones with one bird.
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August 14, 2013 8:19pm
graham

Heh … Pete George calling other people “obsessed”. He’s funny.

So is it a battle between the Winston warriors and the Dunne Devotees? Break out the popcorn!
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August 14, 2013 8:23pm
Griff

Speak of the devil PG you must be so proud two obsessive stalkers of your very own. Do you guys have him tagged so you can jump in all day 😆 creepy and really sad. Imagine the futility of a life devoted to stalking PG .
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August 14, 2013 8:46pm
nickb

Yes Griff, nothing obsessive at all about your posts on here obviously…. at least we only post in response to his Peter Dunne fellating
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August 14, 2013 8:57pm
Griff

Peter Dunne fellating

Look out PG they are getting sexual .
Male on male at that.

Have a jar of Vaseline in front of the shrine do you ?
Sick puppy.

Next you will be fellating a blow up doll with pg on the front and a possum hair hat.

Ive got An idea why dont you and graham get together?
You could then act out your mutual fantasy.
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August 14, 2013 9:06pm
Pete George

“at least we only post in response”

More hilarious. I haven’t mentioned a certain name once here today, and they still went into overdrive. Can’t use me as an excuse for your compulsive obsessive behaviour.
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August 14, 2013 9:30pm
bereal

and then young nickb goes ahead and gives everyone a glimpse into his psyche.

see @ 8.57

“at least ‘WE’ only post in response… blah, blah, blah.”

Hope all you other posters on this site get it that youall and nickb are the WE he
talks about.

Jeez Wayne.
Quite sad really.
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August 14, 2013 10:16pm
bereal

Sorry Pete George. i hadn’t read your post @ 9.30

i missed the fact that you had already picked up on that Freudian give away from
young nickb.

The poor sod feels he has to bolster himself for reasons that are evident to many.
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August 14, 2013 10:20pm
thedavincimode

I haven’t mentioned a certain name once here today

Oops! Looks like he got that call last night!! 😆
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August 14, 2013 10:24pm
graham

“Pete, it’s Dunne here. I know you think you’re helping me, but every ten posts you make about me cause me to drop another 0.1% in the opinion polls. For the love of Pete (me, not you), kindly stop before I start getting into negative territory.”
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August 15, 2013 6:45am
Manolo

A friendship turns sour: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/timstanley/100231113/the-new-york-times-takes-down-the-clinton-foundation-this-could-be-devastating-for-bill-and-hillary/
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