About
Contact
Advertise

Facebook
Twitter

July 8, 2013 8:00am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 8 July 2013

Email
Facebook
Twitter
Comment131

Uncategorized
General Debate

Comments (131)

Login to comment or vote

Pete George

Metiria Turei on gender equity and how the Greens do it:

I think the barriers to women’s political participation are systemic and are based in the social and cultural pressures that women face everyday, all their lives. We still live in a deeply patriarchal society and as a result it can be very difficult for women to value their own skills and expertise because others don’t.

Parliament is particularly aggressive place and many women quite sensibly decide to engage in politics that is more constructive and less hostile.

– Gender equity in Parliament – Metiria Turei

And why one woman wouldn’t stand for Parliament:

There are many reasons the main one being I want to live in peace and quiet out of the public’s eye. Politics, especially in parliament often seems like a kindergarten not a place where mature adults our representatives find the best way to help govern our country.

Women are being doubly judged, once for their looks and secondly for their ability.

– Standing for Parliament? One woman’s view

There’s a lot more to the gender in politics issue than the ‘man ban”.
3 19
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 8:03am
Colville

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/8890123/Man-shot-dead

Another crim dropkick shooting at the Police that wont ever do it again.
14 4
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 8:03am
Right of way is Way of Right

So, a crim shoots at police, and is killed in the process.

Cue standard howls of outrage from those who dislike the police, and a hue and cry for the policeman who took the shot to be tried for murder. This will be followed up with the usual comments from the family of the deceased about what a wonderful family man he was, and how he was just misunderstood. There will be some comment about how he should have just been shot in the leg, or why a taser wasn’t used, or why the police pursuit wasn’t stopped at Matamata or something along those lines. The same old bleating and moaning that the lefties come up with time and again after one of these events.

Let’s break it down.

The offender chose to carry out a home invasion.

The offender chose to steal a car and a firearm.

The offender chose to run from police.

The offender chose not to stop at any of the road blocks or spike strips.

The offender chose to discharge a weapon at armed police.

The police chose to protect the community and themselves.

This is a good result.
34 2
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 8:14am
Judith

Pete George (18,190) Says:
July 8th, 2013 at 8:03 am
———————————

A good read Pete. I must admit I was somewhat insulted when the Greens first announced this topic. I very much believe that women need to be seen as making it from their own strengths and not because some law favours us.

However, the argument you present raises some interesting aspects. I think women, as mothers, have one of the most important roles in society, however, as Turei points out, it is one that is genuinely undervalued. If a woman is to get to the top in male dominated roles, then they not only have to prove they are equal with a man, but better – they need not just the ‘balls’ but fighting ability of the toughest warrior.

And then when they do get there, they are constantly observed for any ‘feminine’ weaknesses. If they don’t show any, then clearly they are ‘lesbian’, and judged as being somehow defective, because they dare to conduct their business practices, like a man.
3 9
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 8:20am
Judith

Lower Hutt Parking Tickets – may not be legal.

One has to wonder how they could possibly forget to pass a by-law that enables them to fine for time-restricted parking breaches.

Pity it wasn’t Auckland – I’d have a nice refund or 5 coming back to me.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/8889237/Parking-tickets-may-not-be-legal
4 3
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 8:26am
Manolo

He should be offered UnitedFuture free membership: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/tibet/10164131/Dalai-Lama-calls-on-young-people-to-create-happier-century-on-his-birthday.html
6 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 8:28am
peterwn

Right of way is Way of Right – can break this down a little more
– one man crimewave in the New Plymouth area.
– playcentre trashed when burglar (guess ho) could not find cash tin.

I do not see the groundswell of support against the police in this case as there was against Constable ‘A’. But then Mr Wallace went on only one rampage. The other guy was a serial criminal making everyones life a misery.
2 3
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 8:48am
dime

Allow me to play herald editor for a minute.

Once the piece of shit who shot at cops is identified.

* he was a nice guy
* good family
* great dad
* his mother will tell us what a good boy he was
* did the police have to shoot?
* the family wants answers!!!!
* has there been a change in police culture?

of course there will be photos everyday. we need the public to identify with this victim as a human being. it should never have happened.

did the police at any stage offer hugs?

and just for a follow up – did the police break speed limits in the pursuit?

was everything done perfect?

the police are supermen, why dont they act like it?
21 2
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 9:02am
jcuk

I never thought I would agree with John Minto BUT really his idea for free puiblic transport could be a winner except for the ideological opposition of the conservatives. As for those who say it wouldn’t work because current transport runs in and out of the city centre the solution is simple with twice the buses there should be enough to operate ‘ring’ routes. I suggested this for Dunedin decades ago in answer to the similar comments. I would think even more viable in Auckland that down here. Actually ring routes feeding rail would be a giant steo forward for both Auckland and Dunedin.

Years ago when $7 of my rates went to subsidising a local bus route past my house I was disgusted at the council becuase I only had 13 buses a day, today it is 19. I would happilly pay twice or three times the ‘bus rate’ to subsidise a service which served …. as it is I only use the buses when my car is in the garage for a WOF or other service need. “It has got to pay” and “people should pay for services” are two of the biggest holdbacks to progress towards a sensible society.
2 10
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 9:10am
gravedodger

Did this sad bastard have a strike? could be relevant to a broader debate but in this case and its outcome it looks a good result, especially as no innocents were harmed.
5 1
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 9:12am
peterwn

Re police shootings – Oops, my apologies – I should have checked the news before doing my previous posting.
1 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 9:12am
Left Right and Centre

…“a man has been shot and killed by the AOS”…. I heard on the radio…..

And said “yes” and did a fist pump. Maybe I’d seen too much fist-pumping during the tennis.
6 1
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 9:15am
Left Right and Centre

gravedodger 9:12 am he just got all three pal… hahahahahahaha That saved a lot of time eh?
4 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 9:17am
Nookin

Political opportunism at its disgraceful best.

If the government had stepped in earlier there would have been an outcry over the abrogation of democracy. If the Government accepts the unequivocal assurances for the council that all is in order but acts as soon as it has an independent assessment show cause for concern then it is dilatory. If the Govt should have known then Cosgove and Dalziell should have known. They were the local MPs on the spot and had as much access to the information as the government. When did they start agitating for an inquiry into the issue of consents?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8889136/Chch-consent-fiasco-could-predate-earthquakes
5 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 9:18am
Left Right and Centre

Judith 8:26 am Isn’t the real story the law student who wasted a chunk of his life checking the legality of the tickets instead of just paying it off? I wonder what the ticket cost…. $10? $40? How many hours has he put in so far? That’s a great story… good for him fighting the man. Nerd.
5 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 9:25am
dime

jcuk – the problem with free is this.

too many people will use public transport. it will blow out from only costing 650 million a year (only $430 per person in auckland) to a few billion in no time.

people will still use cars of course, just we wont have the money to keep the roads up to scratch.

the left love public transport – it means you dont have the freedom of choosing how and when you travel.

of course there will be jobs – too many jobs looking after it all. unions grow stronger…

then they are the lost jobs from less car useage but fuck them eh!

people will get to spend more time with their FAMILIES!!!

whenever proposing shit like this, you must also use the word families as much as possible. no one is against families right?
8 1
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 9:37am
Left Right and Centre

There are many reasons the main one being I want to live in peace and quiet out of the public’s eye. Politics, especially in parliament often seems like a kindergarten not a place where mature adults our representatives find the best way to help govern our country.

Women are being doubly judged, once for their looks and secondly for their ability.

Um… politicians understand that all of the public posturing, bluff and bluster is all a part of the game. Auctioneers don’t go home and sell their work stories to the highest bidder talking at the speed of light, and horserace callers don’t stay in character 24/7 either. That’s your game face mate. It’s all a performance, a play. A look. An image. A brand. Going through the motions. That’s what they do. It’s quite automated. I think there’s something reassuring in the reliability of it all. You know how it works, what to expect. Oh, the Labour Party are calling for John Key’s resignation over this week’s ‘scandal’. Really? Every week they want him to resign or someone to resign or ‘step-down’. You couldn’t make it up. Much better than any drongo rubbish that writers spew onto a screen.
4 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 9:38am
flipper

Nookin…

Yep.
The public can be gullible, but the public is NOT stupid all of the time. Everyone will recall the “democracy” crap over ECAN. But this latest Cosgrove/Dalzeill (what a sad prospect as a mayor) claim will never fool even the most juvenile Cantabrian. What also pisses me off, is that little Gerry is being blamed for not crunching his size 14s all over the ChCh CC.

As I have said many times before, the fault lies with the Act. Marryatt is the ONLY employee of the CCC. Every other CCC employee (some 3000 for Gods sake) works for and is responsible to Marryatt. It does NOT work like that in the real world. But then Government is an arse covering, unreal world.
2 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 9:44am
Left Right and Centre

dime 9:37 am Maybe they like public transport because it’s the ultimate egalitarian environment? There’s no posh or unposh… just a really shitty indestructible small battery chicken sized piece of cold hard moulded plastic that you couldn’t fit half an Islander into. One class of comrade… the workers unite as pure harmonious equals on their daily commute of oppression.
3 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 9:51am
Left Right and Centre

Actually the problem with free public transport might turn out to be that no fucker wants to be caught dead using it even if it’s bloody free.

You can take my comfy private lounge on wheels out of my cold dead hands sitting at ten and two on the steering wheel (left hand bottom of wheel resting on lap, right arm no contact resting on window… let’s be real).
5 2
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 9:57am
flipper

THIS IS LONG OVERDUE… from the NZ Herald this morning:

*** ” Treasury documents showed that Primary Industries Minister Nathan Guy has recommended scaling back funding for Climate Change Research Grants by $2 million in the next financial year, $3.75 million in 2014/15 and $4.25 million in 2015/16.

This would reduce the pool of funding from nearly $10 million a year to $4.5 million a year by 2016.

The contestable grants were used to finance research by tertiary institutions and government agencies on adapting to climate change, reducing emissions and creating carbon sinks, and tapping into business opportunities which arise from climate change.

Treasury backed Mr Guy’s proposal, saying that the funding was introduced in 2007 to support the introduction of the Emissions Trading Scheme and other climate change policies.

Treasury officials said those policies were now fully operational, and “an argument can therefore be made for reviewing the amount of funding for this purpose”. **** ”

Oh dear, What a pity. Never mind. 🙂
9 2
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 10:02am
nasska

“Public Transport: noun.

A means of moving women with screaming ill brought up brats, piss soaked pensioners, unwashed drunks & hoodie wearing young thugs to where they don’t want to go when they don’t want to do it.”

Make the mess free….you’d have to be joking. If they handed out $10 per section as a bribe to travel on a bus or train I’d still rather walk.
6 1
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 10:11am
Snarkle

Nasska, you’re mistaking the purpose of public transport. It’s to get the guy ahead of you in the queue of cars out of his car so you can get to work quicker. It doesn’t make any difference to you who else is in the bus. All that matters is there’s one less car between you and where you want to go!
3 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 10:24am
Scott Chris

…“a man has been shot and killed by the AOS”…. I heard on the radio…..

And said “yes” and did a fist pump. Maybe I’d seen too much fist-pumping during the tennis.

Maybe they should bring back public executions so people like you can go along and pump your fists.
6 6
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 10:37am
doggone7

Scott Chris
“Maybe they should bring back public executions so people like you can go along and pump your fists.”

Hush your mouth! The next cry will be for there to be surveillance, (sorry mean “security” ) cameras on every lamp post. These could be beamed into every home, into every mobile phone when there is some drama so we can play lions v christians for our entertainment.

Some of the vigilantes on here would love to participate from the comfort of their lounge chairs. Would they have the courage to get out on the street and actually deal with the situations face-to-face? Or send their sons and daughters out to do that?

I feel for the cops who were in that situation this morning.
3 1
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 10:53am
cha

Everyone’s nightmare.

https://twitter.com/NTSB/status/354002389096886272/photo/1

edit:

The data indicate that the throttles were at idle and the airspeed slowed below target approach speed during the approach.

https://twitter.com/NTSB/statuses/353978594747351042
0 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 10:53am
cha

More NTSB images.

https://twitter.com/NTSB/with_replies
0 1
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 10:59am
Manolo

Savagery from some followers of the religion of peace:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2357764/Islamic-lynch-mob-waving-al-Qaeda-banners-throw-terrified-teenage-boys-20ft-ledge-beating-lie-injured-floor.html
0 1
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 11:09am
backster

MINTO might be onto a winner with his free Public Transport. If our candidate Penny Public Watchdog is to have any chance she needs to advocate paying passengers to use free Public Transport.
1 1
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 11:38am
Pete George

United Future have submitted over 500 signed membership confirmations to the Electoral Commission.

It will now take the Commission 6-8 weeks to verify if a sample of about 50 of those are legitimate.

United Future confirm 500 signed up members

Dunne has said he thinks the membership of all parties should be verified every three years. That would be tricky, most parties have online membership and electronic records and would have to gather signed confirmations.
1 3
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 12:14pm
cha

I hope this isn’t what happened.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/07/07/sfo-plane-crash-victim-may-have-been-run-over-by-rescue-vehicle/
0 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 12:49pm
Left Right and Centre

Scott Chris 10:37 am +1 Now you’re giving me the horn man!!

“people like you”…. hahahahahaha. I only want to go if there’s popcorn and snacks. And maybe a ‘meal of the day’ option. You know, something novel like… ‘prisoners last meal special’. If it’s good enough for their last meal, it’s got to be worth a shot. Like the prisoner.
0 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 1:01pm
Scott Chris

Dunne has said he thinks the membership of all parties should be verified every three years.

Why, because he had to do it? I was under the impression that he felt that online applications were sufficient.

Hell, let’s just make up more frivolous regulation to make government smaller and more efficient.
0 1
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 1:04pm
Kea

How the first world meets energy requirements. We could do this sort of thing too, if we had our greens and feminists under control.

World’s first floating nuclear power plant to begin operating in Russia in 2016

http://rt.com/news/floating-nuclear-plant-russia-759/
1 1
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 1:32pm
Pete George

Scott Chris – yes, evidence of online membership should be sufficient (which provides exactly the same details as printed and signed membership forms), but each party should have membership verified from that.
0 1
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 1:46pm
wikiriwhis business

In this episode of the Keiser Report, Max Keiser and Stacy Herbert discuss Tiny Dick Fuld, the former CEO of Lehman Brothers, who is now working for ‘pennies’ while the world tries to recover from the global financial disaster that he partly created by acting like a penny stock company. Max and Stacy also discuss interests rates on savings accounts being slashed across the United Kingdom as banks no longer need to attract deposits in this post Tiny Dick Fuld world in which the government and the central bank provide unlimited ‘free’ cash against which they can lend and in which hunky Mark Carney has been brought in to oversee the new property market ‘boom’ times. In the second half, Max talks to Paul Sommerville of Sommerville Advisory Markets (sam.ie) about the story of Anglo Irish bank, the toxic hedge fund masquerading as a bank which was run by charlatans lending to just twenty or thirty toxic individuals. The Anglo Irish story is one of crony capitalism and collusion with government and regulators, one where the Chairman’s loans were bed and breakfasted and over which the burnt speculators are outing each other’s role in the crimes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyZNJgvtt74
0 1
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 1:51pm
Jinky

Anyone on Kiwiblog agree with Key and English that $100m from sale of Mighty River shares should be used to prop up Solid Energy to the point where it’s shares are worth selling?
0 2
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 1:59pm
graham

Looks like Downtown Shopping Centre is getting bowled to make room for the City Rail Link.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10895447

Doesn’t worry me, most of the shopping that I would do there, I tend to do at somewhere like Albany shopping centre – where you can get parking without paying a small fortune.
2 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 2:18pm
Tom Jackson

…“a man has been shot and killed by the AOS”…. I heard on the radio….. And said “yes” and did a fist pump. Maybe I’d seen too much fist-pumping during the tennis.

I doubt that the police were doing a fist bump. This is a bad way for it to end, but it looks like the offender left the police with no other option. Sure, the police sometimes get this stuff wrong, but they don’t generally shoot people unless there is no other option – one reason being that stray bullets sometimes hit members of the public.

This sounds like the guy had been playing too much Grand Theft Auto. I saw a cop examining the road near my house. My guess from reading the news is that the guy bowled through there last night, since he’s said to have had a shootout with the cops in Hamilton.
2 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 2:27pm
kowtow

flipper and Nathan Guy “scaling Back” climate scam spending and there you have it. They should be dropping the spending immediately instead of gutless scaling back!

Motorists faced a monumental traffic jam on their way to work,reports the news…….

while those cops faced bullets fired at them while at work.

One less violent robber,that’s something to be grateful for and remember ,we sleep peacefully in our beds because rough men stand ready to do violence on our behalf.
4 1
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 2:49pm
graham

Thought police to ban naughty words in school playgrounds – words like “gay”. From England:

Education Secretary Michael Gove has pledged to clampdown on the use of homophobic language in the school playground.

He told a conference: “It is outrageous and medieval to think that the use of the word ‘gay’ as an insult is somehow acceptable.

“Whether it is Chris Moyles (the former Radio One disc jockey) or anyone else it is wrong and it should be called out.” Moyles was accused of being homophobic after he said he would not accept a telephone ring-tone “because it’s gay”.

Mr Gove, who was addressing the annual education conference of Stonewall – the gay and lesbian rights campaign group, said he would be holding discussions with it to determine whether the existing law outlawing incitement of hatred was being “properly policed” – and that he would be prepare to consider strengthening it if necessary.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/michael-gove-pledges-clampdown-on-use-of-homophobic-language-in-school-playgrounds-8691132.html

It seems to me that school kids have always used certain words as insults. It might be “gay” now, but that’s only the latest in a long list of insults – homo, fag, geek, nerd, poof, blonde, bitch, spastic, spazzy, retarded, muppet …

What are they going to do? Ban all insults? I’m a professional geek, that’s my job. Should I feel insulted when somebody refers to a geek in an insulting way? My daughter’s blonde, she’s heard all the jokes and insults. What about gingas?

Where will it end?
4 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 3:07pm
Zapper

Judith

“And then when they do get there, they are constantly observed for any ‘feminine’ weaknesses. If they don’t show any, then clearly they are ‘lesbian’, and judged as being somehow defective, because they dare to conduct their business practices, like a man.”

What century are you living in? I work with many high performing women, including the CEO of my company, and none of what you speak exists in the real world. May I ask where you experienced such behaviour?
4 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 3:21pm
Pete George

“Thought police to ban naughty words”

Naughty is an interesting word, like gay and many others it’s meaning has evolved.

It’s first recorded meaning was “needy, having nothing” derived from naught (1350-1400).
Then it became “wicked, evil, morally wrong” (1520s).

Now it’s somewhere in between as a fairly mild form of misbehaviour.
1 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 3:27pm
Redbaiter

HOPE MILLS, N.C. — Town officials are considering adopting tougher rules for participation in parades in Hope Mills after an entry in the Independence Day parade prompted complaints.

Farmer Donnie Spell, who has driven his tractor in the Hope Mills parade for years, tacked a sign saying “White History Month – Hug Wht Ppl” to a trailer filled with watermelons that he pulled down Main Street during Thursday’s event.

Spell’s tractor also featured a Confederate flag, which officials said he’s flown before during the Independence Day parade.

His entry form for the parade lists only his antique tractors and a load of watermelons for sale.

“There was no mention of any type of signage,” Town Manager John Ellis said. “At the lineup, our parks and recreation director saw it. The gentleman was asked to remove it. We thought it had been removed.”

http://www.wral.com/-white-history-sign-could-prompt-changes-in-hope-mills-parades/12631506/
2 1
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 3:40pm
b1gdaddynz

@Redbaiter WTF? What is so wrong with what the sign says…I don’t understand this PC garbage sometimes! Do white people not have any history? would anyone complain if it said black history or hispanic history? How can Brown Pride mean I am proud to be hispanic but White Pride would mean I am racist; could it not just mean “I’m proud to be white”?
4 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 4:36pm
Tom Jackson

What is so wrong with what the sign says…I don’t understand this PC garbage sometimes!

On a trailer filled with watermelons? You can’t be serious.
1 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 4:41pm
b1gdaddynz

What do you have against watermelons?
2 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 4:48pm
Tom Jackson

It’s not what I have against watermelons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watermelon_stereotype

For a more amusing view: see Wanda Sykes on dignified black people

http://youtu.be/EK2iPGy1vYs
0 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 4:49pm
b1gdaddynz

Thanks Tom…I honestly had no idea…
0 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 4:58pm
Tom Jackson

Fair enough. It’s one of those weird American things.
0 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 5:10pm
Shunda barunda

Here’s the future of NZ children’s books by the more ‘progressive’ authors out there, this is an excerpt from the NZ Post children’s book awards winner late last week, it is going into every high school library in the country:

“Tania had Devon’s jeans off much faster than he managed to clear the hooks on her bra. The urgency now bordered on panic. Then she had his cock in her wet hand. He gasped. The next thing was he felt a fluttering convulsion and came immediately, draping the wall of the bathroom with a ribbon of sperm.

Their mouths parted again, and still gasping, they stared into each other’s eyes. Nothing was said; there was nothing to say. When they kissed again, this time slowly, more carefully, he was able to fumble free the buttons of her blouse and she lifted herself clear to help his urgent caress. His cock, which had hardened at the first kiss, now felt her hand tighten around it. What had strained awkwardly in the folds of his jeans now straightened to her touch. His mouth found her nipple as he felt her hand slip inside his zip. There were a few moments of exquisite pleasure before he came with a shuddering gasp inside his underpants. The ecstatic release immediately mutated into disappointment. The moment, the opportunity, had come and gone so quickly. “I’ve come…”

Devon turned and began to nibble at Sina’s neck and earlobe. He could feel himself growing hard again, which surprised him because the water was so cold. Sina pulled away for a moment and then came in to kiss him on the mouth. He wondered what had been said between the two girls. He moved into shallower water until Sina slid lower on his body. In the shallows the steady rise and fall of the water made them rub rhythmically together. Devon sensed her recognition as his cock slid up between their tightly clasped bodies. Even though he had come only hours earlier he knew he could not delay this much longer. He pulled her pants to one side and fumbled for her vagina. He expected resistance but there was none. In a moment he was inside her. She felt hot compared to the water in the bay. He was able to raise and lower her easily in the bobbing water and she gasped in his ear as he drove deeper. This time his overwhelming feeling was one of accomplishment. He wanted to stay there forever; the two of them locked, joined and somehow completed. A moment later he sensed her eagerness to struggle free so he grasped her hips and covered her mouth with his. Her wriggling, his thrusts, her fingernails on his shoulders, his beating heart, all quickly climaxed in an exquisite shuddering burst. ‘God!’ she said and struggled free.”

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=10893849

http://www.theconservative.co.nz/?q=node%2F339

http://www.booksellers.co.nz/awards/new-zealand-post-childrens-book-awards/winners-announced-new-zealand-post-children%E2%80%99s-book-awa
3 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 5:36pm
Tom Jackson

Like any kid will take time off from watching bukkake videos on the internet to read that pot boiler…
1 1
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 5:54pm
Manolo

Another shameless surprise from a whore MP, an exemplary man of principle:
http://news.msn.co.nz/nationalnews/8686619/dunne-could-u-turn-on-gcsb-law-again
1 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 5:56pm
liarbors a joke

Scumbag maori…good riddance you prick..

“A man shot dead by police in Auckland this morning was an ex-soldier, dismissed from the army for “disciplinary reasons”.

Police named him this afternoon as Caleb Dean Henry, 20, of Opotiki.”
2 1
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 6:01pm
Manolo

But he was a good man, son, pillar of the community and accomplished sportsman. Wasn’t the crim wonderful?
4 1
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 6:09pm
Shunda barunda

Like any kid will take time off from watching bukkake videos on the internet to read that pot boiler…

I would still prefer that the self published writings of a sexual deviant were not a part of the local high school library.
1 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 6:22pm
nickb

Wow a real meltdown by PG today, reaching its nadir when he admitted to peeing sitting down. What is the record for the most thumbs down for one person in one day?
1 1
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 6:41pm
Kea

Here’s the future of NZ children’s books by the more ‘progressive’ authors out there

Shunda barunda, progressives did not invent teen sex. They would never create anything that was so natural and enjoyable. I probably would not select that particular story. The randy little buggers hardly need anyone stoking fires.
0 1
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 7:01pm
Pete George

Re Manolo’s link…

Peter Dunne looks likely to do another u-turn on a controversial spy agency law change, and again support the bill.

That’s a ridiculous lead in to a story that doesn’t back up it’s hype.

Dunne voted for the GCSB bill at the first reading to get it to committee. That’s fairly standard.

Now, after public submissions, it’s normal to get down to the nitty gritty of what in the bill is acceptable and what isn’t. So National have to talk to potential support votes to get their bill passed.

So far Key has been happy to make one concession, and it’s an important one – having a panel for oversight rather than just one person.

“This would mean the inspector-general (of Intelligence) could be supported by potentially two other independent people who would play a head-check or sounding board type of role.”

Independent oversight is important.

Mr Dunne said that change “is not sufficient of itself” to secure his support, and he still wants other changes which he will discuss with Mr Key ahead of its second reading.

“I hope he will be prepared to consider them positively, in the same way as he has my strengthened oversight proposal.”

So the negotiations will continue, until we see if both sides are satisfied with the end result. Seems like fairly normal working towards common ground.
0 3
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 7:09pm
Pete George

You seem to do little here but troll me Nick. Will you assure everyone of your manliness and claim you never pee sitting down?
0 4
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 7:12pm
Kea

Here is what Saudi Princess, Basmah Bint Saud, has to say about the people Obama supports:

The Muslim Brotherhood up to ten years ago was considered a terrorist party and it hasn’t been recognized by the Islamic community in Egypt and the Arab world, except recently. We are not talking about a great party that has been in power for a long time. It has been considered a terrorist party for a long time.

The Muslim Brotherhood should not be very surprised about their short time being in power because they have not been supported by Egyptians themselves for a long time. Rather than celebrating the Muslim Brotherhood failure, I don’t think by any means that Muslim Brotherhood is a political movement, it is rather a religious movement, politicized by other powers in the world.

http://rt.com/op-edge/egypt-coup-many-muslim-brotherhood-707/
0 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 7:16pm
nickb

The only reason I “troll” PG is that you continually spam this blog with your extreme middle of the road, indecisive political waffle and your defence of the disgraced Peter Dunce. It really is bringing the quality of KB down as evidenced by your billions of thumbs down.

And yes, I don’t pee sitting down. That would be bizarre, after all.
2 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 7:18pm
Pete George

Never nick? Come on, be brave and say it.

You’re a bit of a try hard in your attempts to diss, are you on contract or something? I hope you don’t get any credit for gross exaggerations. A few thumbs down have never bothered me, they can be a useful indicator of how close to the mark one gets.
1 4
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 7:24pm
Kea

I am listening to Radio Live and Karen Hay is frantic over a – Pakeha Party – that is getting lots of facebook “likes”. She is beside herself that every time she refreshes the page it has gone up by thousands.

I invite those of you on Facebook to check it out 🙂
3 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 7:24pm
nickb

Dunne voted for the GCSB bill at the first reading to get it to committee. That’s fairly standard.

Just like he did with the EFA, right? After all, voting for a Bill which was described by the Human Rights Commission as a “dramatic assault” on freedom of expression is only fair, reasonable and sensible.

Your increasingly deranged support of Peter Dunne has me concerned. Maybe time to see a doctor.
0 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 7:26pm
Pete George

A different report on the same thing:

Key forced to change spying law

“My first and most significant priority is to build a Parliamentary majority, and we’re looking for Mr Dunne to provide that,” Mr Key says.

The current oversight system for New Zealand’s spies is the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security, former judge Paul Neazor.

Under Mr Key’s original law, spying warrants would be issued by one commissioner. Mr Dunne wants a panel of three distinguished New Zealanders to decide, and Mr Key said he’s now willing to compromise.

“I believe this idea has merit and I’ve agreed to Mr Dunne to take this proposal forward.”

One journalist’s u-turn is another journalist’s forced gain.
0 5
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 7:27pm
Shunda barunda

Shunda barunda, progressives did not invent teen sex.

But they did contribute heavily to epidemic levels of STD’s

They would never create anything that was so natural and enjoyable.

Which is why they are hell bent on screwing it up (excuse the pun)

I probably would not select that particular story. The randy little buggers hardly need anyone stoking fires.

Exactly my point, how about we leave the kids to it and keep the fantasies of dirty old white haired men out of school libraries.
2 2
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 7:29pm
Pete George

Your increasingly deranged support of Peter Dunne has me concerned. Maybe time to see a doctor.

You’ve got me there nick, too much, that’s just the last straw. I can’t take it any more. I’m giving up everything.
0 5
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 7:35pm
wiseowl

@kea.7.24
Garner had the guy on today about the Pakeha Party.
He totally missed the point and rubbished the guy after the interview.Typical bloody journo.

The point is that so many people are indicating support regardless of whether it will fly or not.
I am buoyed by the response.
It sends a message to National and other parties that people have had a gutsfull of the Maori Party and the kowtowing to race in this country.
4 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 7:44pm
Kea

Shunda barunda, I am pretty liberal on these sorts of issues. I do not think kids should be taught that sex is sinful or dirty, but I do not think famously promiscuous kiwi kids need it promoted in this way either.
1 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 7:49pm
liarbors a joke

You mean this ?

All power to them. General NZ have had a gutsful

http://1law4all.co.nz/
2 2
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 7:50pm
Kea

liarbors a joke, that is a good site, but this is what they are talking about ?

https://www.facebook.com/ThePakehaParty
3 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 7:52pm
nasska

wiseowl

Apparently they have a website under construction. Ref: http://news.msn.co.nz/nationalnews/8686378/pakeha-party-launches-for-equal-rights

Post a link if you see it first.
1 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 7:52pm
Kea

Listening to the Radio Live is making my blood boil. They are demanding to know what special rights Maori have ! 🙂

This sort of double standard is disgusting. We are a gutless and docile lot us kiwis. We tolerate demands for special treatment based on race and gender, just as long the advantage is not going to white males.
4 1
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 7:56pm
Redbaiter

A used forklift company is in trouble for rehashing an “offensive” advertisement featuring a scantily clad woman, with the catchline “you know you’re not the first … But does that really matter?”

In January, Independent Forklifts was asked to remove an advertisement on RadioLive’s website that featured an image of a woman in dominatrix-type clothing, with a forklift in the background. The Advertising Standards Authority has found it does matter, and has now upheld a further complaint against the company, after it began using an ad similar to that complained about.

The new ad showed a woman dressed in skimpy, provocative clothing, with the same text. Two complainants shared the view the new ad was “shockingly denigrating of women, objectifying them as sex objects”. The advert was a gratuitous objectification of the woman which was likely to cause serious and widespread offence on the grounds of gender, the Complaints Board found.

The “Advertising Standards Authority”. What a fucking joke they would be. Time to run these kind of fascist arseholes out of town.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/8891467/Offensive-advert-ruled-against-again
6 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 7:58pm
nasska

I hate living in this fear of not knowing if you’re going to be attacked, stabbed, even killed for reasons and beliefs that are totally beyond us.

Fuck PMT!
0 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 8:00pm
Pete George

The OneLaw4All party is lacking something usually regarded as quite important in politics – people. If they were confident about what they are offering surely they should identify themselves?

The Pakeha Party people have at least put themselves forward.
1 5
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 8:00pm
Redbaiter

Shunda barunda, I am pretty liberal on these sorts of issues. I do not think kids should be taught that sex is sinful or dirty, but I do not think famously promiscuous kiwi kids need it promoted in this way either.

Who the fuck cares what you “think”??

Give us an argument or STFU. Narcissist.
1 6
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 8:04pm
Kea

Speaking of things Maori, I see the armed criminal who shot at police is being described as a “Former Soldier”

When white guys shoot at cops they are described as “Gunmen”.

If they want to refer it his military career, it should be “disgraced former soldier”, but “violent savage” works for me.
3 2
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 8:06pm
liarbors a joke

All in good time PG..
2 1
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 8:09pm
Kea

Who the fuck cares what you “think”??

Give us an argument or STFU. Narcissist.

You are so far up your own arse you can not see your own double standard. Where is your argument in that comment ? You really are a pathetic little prick and seem to be getting worse. Correct yourself little fella, your a joke.

If you do not like hearing the thoughts of others you can:

1. Stay off blogs.

2. Not read the comments.

3. Go fuck yourself.
6 1
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 8:12pm
Colville

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/8893079/Deans-sacked-McKenzie-takes-Wallabies-reigns

About time!
0 1
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 8:12pm
Colville

Kea.

You forgot 4.

“all of the above”
3 1
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 8:13pm
Pete George

Would One Law 4 All support or oppose the GCSB Amendment Bill? Or would they want modifications before supporting it?

It seems to be one law for the police, another for the SIS and a new amended law for the GCSB.
0 4
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 8:14pm
Kea

Red you never did get back to me on the issue of your support for Graham Capil, the former policeman, Christian, Conservative, Kiddy Fiddler ?
3 1
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 8:15pm
Colville

and Ewen McKenzie has the Wallababies job, he is a coach that we will learn to fear IMHO.

Like many others I thought Jake White would get it but they obviously didnt want another carpetbagger!
0 1
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 8:17pm
Redbaiter

Kea, did you ever get over the fact that you’re a liar and a coward?
2 3
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 8:19pm
Pete George

I hope Ewen McKenzie will at least sort out the Wallaby front row, it has been one of Dean’s biggest failures.
1 3
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 8:20pm
Pauleastbay

Graham Capil, the former policeman

Capil was not a sworn member of police , he was employed as a prosecutor.
2 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 8:20pm
Longknives

“Speaking of things Maori, I see the armed criminal who shot at police is being described as a “Former Soldier”
When white guys shoot at cops they are described as “Gunmen”.”

Now that it has been confirmed that the gunman was ‘Tangata Whenua’ just how long before the left-leaning NZ media interview his family and subsequently bombard us with rubbish about what a ‘peaceful’ and ‘ loving’ family man he was??
I can see it now- Hakas at the funeral, Family crying “We want answers”, and an unscrupulous lawyer whispering in their ears about the possibility of some compensation dollars from those evil NZ Police..
NZ media simply will not rest until Police lose their guns and the ability to defend themselves (and us) from such nutjobs.

Footnote- I see lefty website ‘Scoop’ is already referring to this guy as the “Victim of Police Shooting”…
I also hear a rumour the Gunman/Home invader was mixed up with the Mana Party?
3 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 8:23pm
Kea

Pauleastbay, Are you sure about that ?. I thought Capil was a prosecuting Sergeant.
0 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 8:25pm
Pete George

Quade Cooper’s reaction to the news of Robbie Deans’ sacking: https://twitter.com/followthebounce/status/354145230653636608/photo/1
1 2
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 8:27pm
Colville

PG. A National coach cant sort out props. They need years in development. Being a 120 kg thug dosent just happen like being a wing. Being a wing happens when a kid turns 15 and finds out he is half again faster than any one else at school so he goes out and gets a flash haircut and some bright coloured rugby boots. **. Being a skillful thug takes work and dedication and a deep down dark desire to be filthy and hurt people 🙂

**like Doug Howlett
1 2
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 8:29pm
Pauleastbay

He never trained a s cop he was employed solely as a prosecutor, they get to wear a uniform to Court , Lyn Provost was employed as an Assistant Commissioner but she was an accountant
1 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 8:29pm
Kea

One of the biggest problems the right faces are weirdos like Redbaiter self identifying as being on the right. When ever a sensible rightish ideas is advanced, the detractors refer to ranting fanatics like Red to discredit it. Sensible right leaning folk have as much in common with Helen Clark as they do Redbaiter. What we need is balance, not polemics.
3 2
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 8:31pm
Kea

Pauleastbay , so Capil was a sworn and uniformed member of the NZ Police then ?
0 1
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 8:33pm
Colville

My God! Ewen McKenzie was trained as a town planner!

Austrailia are fucked!
1 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 8:33pm
Redbaiter

“What we need is balance, not polemics.”

What we do not need on the right are cowards and liars. It is truth, courage and integrity that will defeat the left. Concepts that are foreign to most progs, as your own cowardly proclivity for lies and smears shows all too well.
1 4
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 8:35pm
Longknives

Graham Capill was a Non-Sworn Police Prosecutor. They don’t wear uniforms..
2 0
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 8:36pm
Pauleastbay

Where did you get the sworn from from what I said Kea?, Longknives has clarified it
1 1
Log in to Reply
Report
July 8, 2013 8:39pm

More comments:

1
2
›

Add a Comment Cancel reply

Login to comment or vote

« Labour’s next policy after the man ban?

WCC still trying to delay flyover »

Donations

You can now donate to Kiwiblog

Exclusive content from DPF on Patreon

Become a Patron!

Never miss a post

Email Address

Join 37.4K other subscribers

Highlights

Health Target 5 – elective treatments
Health Target 4 – Specialist appointments
Health Target 3 – Emergency Dept Waiting Times
Health Target 2 – Immunisations

Links

Justice in Brazil
No Right Turn
"Seymour is only doing openly what M?ori nationalists and their Pakeha allies have been doing, quietly for the past 50 years."
Not PC
A Written New Zealand Constitution?
No Minister
Daily review 22/11/2024
The Standard
Do the KCs believe in democracy
Utopia
More young offenders will get boot camp, bus drivers will get some protection – and there’s relief for southern farmers
Point of Order
Sowell says
Hompaddock
New Zealand government urged to back ICC arrest warrants for Israeli leaders without equivocation
The Daily Blog
The transgender agenda sunk Kamala
Bob McCoskrie's McBlog
SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT
No Punches Pulled (Bob Jones)
What does “reciprocity” mean in New Zealand laws?
Croaking Cassandra
A Day of Reckoning
NZCPR
Media Link: “A View from Afar” on the US elections.
Kiwipolitico
This will not end well
Offsetting Behaviour
Top 14 Predictions for Round 10
Stats Chat
Tory Whanau may have to sell Wellington mayoralty to make ends meet
The Civilian
The Accidental Engagement
Imperator Fish
Legal Beagle: Election '23: The Special Votes
Public Address
Making this movie might have been a mistake
Liam Hehir
Why I am retiring from political blogging
Kiwi FireWalker
Angie Warren-Clark: Meet the Newbies
Dan Moskovitz

editor@kiwiblog.co.nz

PO Box 12270, Thorndon, Wellington 6144

Facebook
Twitter
FourSquare
Instagram
LinkedIn
Google+

Archives
Disclosure Statement
Editorial Policy
Privacy Policy
Complaints Policy
Comments Policy

Design by cre8d