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thedavincimode

Reid

Are you sure that you are being fair, reasonable, and sensible to poor old Pete?
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July 31, 2013 6:48pm
thedavincimode

Careful nick

We don’t want him posting a photo for expert opinion. 🙁
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July 31, 2013 6:50pm
nasska

Next time he books into Madam Lash’s House of Pain for a prostrate massage he should specify well trimmed nails. 🙂
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July 31, 2013 6:52pm
Reid

Are you sure that you are being fair, reasonable, and sensible to poor old Pete?

Gosh I hope so tdm. possibly the lobotomy bit wasn’t sensible but it was certainly reasonable.

I bet the other Pete wishes he’d had a confirmation dialog that popped up with that message everytime he pressed Send to Andrea. Or maybe he did and some other part of him said: Go ahead, just do ~~her~~ it.
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July 31, 2013 6:55pm
nickb

Not only did he canvas leaking the report, he was on his way out to meet her the day before it got released, and got sidetracked….

Winny states the emails aren’t professional.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmDLrFsKCag
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July 31, 2013 6:56pm
Pete George

No tdm, reid is simply wrong. The truth is slowly emerging, while Reid philanders the Christian morality he sometimes tries to claim.
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July 31, 2013 6:58pm
Reid

We don’t want him posting a photo for expert opinion.

That’s why we need the GCSB Bill. To stop things like that in their tracks.

No tdm, reid is simply wrong.

You mean you didn’t have a lobotomy Pete?
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July 31, 2013 6:59pm
thedavincimode

Is it possible that dime is the first victim of compulsory anal sex?
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July 31, 2013 7:00pm
Reid

Is it possible that dime is the first victim of compulsory anal sex?

Does that mean he has to get married now?
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July 31, 2013 7:03pm
Lucia Maria

Watching Obama’s war mongering imperialist pig eating sons of whores being blown to bits by IED’s. It is hilarious stuff. The infidel invaders have spent billions on amoured vehicles, but the soldiers of Allah just make bigger bombs. The higher tech Obama’s army of hell bound swine go, the lower tech the response by the blessed followers of the prophet may peace be upon him 🙂

No atheist talks like this.
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July 31, 2013 7:05pm
Pete George

“Winny states the emails aren’t professional.”

Winny stated a number of things that proved to be false. Like, he stated the evidence was all in the phone records – as shown again on 3 News tonight – and that was wrong.

He has lost a lot of what respect he might have had left from the media for the way he has smeared Andrea Vance.
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July 31, 2013 7:05pm
bhudson

He has lost a lot of what respect he might have had left from the media for the way he has smeared Andrea Vance.

That’s rich coming from you Pete, given you accused Vance of having ensnared Dunne when the story first broke and he resigned.
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July 31, 2013 7:11pm
UglyTruth

No sane atheist talks like this.

FIFY
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July 31, 2013 7:12pm
dime

someone call the fire department
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July 31, 2013 7:13pm
Pete George

bhudson – I don’t think I ever said that, and certainly never said anything like reid’s abusive sermon.
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July 31, 2013 7:17pm
Reid

Keep calm. Don’t panic.

http://govtslaves.info/warning-gigantic-chunk-of-sun-headed-toward-earth/

and certainly never said anything like reid’s abusive sermon

So it wasn’t er, sensible then Pete? I’m trying to understand. And BTW, it was a comment on a blogsite. My sermons are much more interesting. Full of hell and damnation.
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July 31, 2013 7:19pm
thedavincimode

dime

Have you got a geiger counter?
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July 31, 2013 7:24pm
nickb

bhudson – I don’t think I ever said that

A lie.

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/06/dunne_resigns_as_a_minister.html#comment-1154526

NK – most likely Vance was not one of the same old media mob, refreshingly foreign – and someone who knew how to pander to the ego of someone trying to impress with their knowledge and importance. Politics year after year must become very tedious, so it was a new interest.

Hook, line and sunk him. I doubt that it was anything more than that.
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July 31, 2013 7:27pm
UglyTruth

Only a small Carrington Event.

93 million miles / 2 million miles per hour = about 48 hours.
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July 31, 2013 7:32pm
Pete George

I knew someone would be quick. But that is quite different. The guiles of a journo are one thing, the accusations upthread are Winston Peters style smears, and worse. Maybe I misjudged how many NZ First supporters there were here.

And another significant difference – that was an immediate reaction when (much worse) accusations were flying, I soon learned that it was a smear job and gradually found out what actually happened.
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July 31, 2013 7:35pm
Kea

No atheist talks like this.

Lucia Maria, one just did 🙂

What do you think about the Pope going all soft and gooey on the sodomite dammed ?
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July 31, 2013 7:36pm
thedavincimode

UT

I have no idea what that is, but should I cancel the dentist and my haircut?
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July 31, 2013 7:36pm
thedavincimode

Maybe I misjudged how many NZ First supporters there were here.

No Pete. You misjudged how many UF supporters there were here.
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July 31, 2013 7:39pm
Lucia Maria

Ugly,

I’m not getting the crazy vibe from him, just the Muslim pretending to be an atheist and almost getting away with it apart from the attitude towards women, Christians, the Bible and now Americans and Obama thing going on. His attitude towards women is what got my attention as it doesn’t gel with the typical manosphere that thinks that way.
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July 31, 2013 7:42pm
UglyTruth

I have no idea what that is, but should I cancel the dentist and my haircut?

Definitely not. Bad hair is a sin.
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July 31, 2013 7:43pm
Reid

On a more serious note, this is what the West have done to the buildings in Syria:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2380913/Syria-Homs-aerial-pictures-scale-destruction.html

…and much more importantly, this is what they [as-in, we in the West] have done to the people.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/07/30/316273/west-war-crimes-in-syria-exposed/

And all because Israel wanted to turn Syria into Libya Mark II so it could turn around and use the west – again – to attack it’s real target, Iran, Israel’s public enemy #1.

Ever wondered why Russia and China keep blocking the west’s moves in the Security Council? Because they, like me, have seen what they are doing and why, writ large, in flaming letters, ever since it all started.

Ever wondered why the appalling twagedy of the Sywian civilian plight under the nasty howwible ole Assam never hit the news prior to all this beginning?

After all, if it was so bad, how come we’d never heard of it and by all intents and purposes the Sywian people were perfectly happy?

Because there wasn’t an issue there, until the western media decided to paint it like there was. That is why.

And BTW, how come the west is sponsoring Al-Qa’ida in their fight for fweedom? I asked that question around a year ago. I never got an answer. I know why, but the important thing is being able to ask yourself that question in the first place, rather than pretending that they would never do that, they’re the good guys.
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July 31, 2013 7:43pm
nasska

A slight malfunction. 🙂

Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/itj7842me352mfr/Auto.jpeg
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July 31, 2013 7:49pm
big bruv

” His attitude towards women is what got my attention as it doesn’t gel with the typical manosphere that thinks that way.”

Yet you support the way the Catholic church continue to treat females as second class citizens and nothing more than breeding machines.
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July 31, 2013 7:51pm
Lucia Maria

Sorry, Kea, but you just smell wrong.

Even your name doesn’t gel.
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July 31, 2013 7:51pm
big bruv

“An extra $3.6b into the economy from those dirty dairy farmers. This has to stop.”

Perhaps it is time that they started paying the same rate of tax as every other poor sod who is in business.
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July 31, 2013 7:55pm
Kea

Ugly & Lucy, truly a match made in heaven, or the bowels of hell ! 🙂

Lucy, did a voice in your head tell you what I think of women ? Because all you have ever seen me do is defend equality for all genders and sexual orientations. I guess your confused because you think men should always defer to women, like the feminists told you to. Actually it might also be because you are a good looking woman and that just happens regardless.

You can spend the rest of the night trying to dredge up one anti female comment from me. You will find plenty of remarks that indicate otherwise though. Ask your mate Ugly to help, before the nurse comes with his meds.
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July 31, 2013 7:59pm
graham

Pete George accusing others of smearing – now there’s an irony.

“The report seems to have been shoddy, a travesty of justice – and getting murkier by the revelation.”

“A more likely explanation is that Henry leaked to Peters to put pressure on Dunne in his inquiry. There is no obvious alternative.”

“But most leakers don’t have a Henry style kangaroo court.”

“The motives and methods of David Henry (or of someone associated with him in his inquiry) are as questionable as those of Peter Dunne.”

“The PMO could be telling the truth. Or not. They certainly had an easy opportunity to leak at about the right time – in private, as you would expect most people would leak.”

“Confidential sources may find it very hard to have any confidence in Fairfax.”

“If Winston Peters isn’t lying then Espiner looks to be promoting a journalist lie – sources at Fairfax haven’t been protected.”

“Peters is also trying to bring down our current government. Peters uses any dirty tactics he can get away with, including lying and making accusations that he has no evidence to prove – and he repeatedly makes accusations and assertions he must know are false. Decency and democracy don’t matter to Peters. Much of his political ambition has been to destroy.”

“Andrea Vance, who often wears an excellent journalist hat, replaced that with her ‘opinion’ political activist hat and expressed her displeasure at Dunne not delivering everything she wanted. In Dunne turnaround on spy bill Vance sounds pissed off and pissy. She should remember that she has not been elected, and I’d be surprised if she’s a member of any party. A personal crusade seems to have usurped her professionalism.”

And on, and on, and on …
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July 31, 2013 7:59pm
nasska

In the pub the other day I was telling that old joke about what you do if you see an epileptic having a fit in the bath.
Answer; throw in your washing.
We were all having a good laugh about this, when this big bastard tapped me on the shoulder and said
“I don’t find that very funny. My brother was an epileptic and he died in the bath during one of his fits.”
I said “Sorry mate. Did he drown?”
“No,” he said, “he choked on a sock.”
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July 31, 2013 7:59pm
Colville

Dime, wtf have you done to yourself?
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July 31, 2013 8:00pm
thedavincimode

Oh do fuck off bb. That is a particularly ignorant and stupid comment. Still peddling the fact that you’ve got an business that is uneconomic?

I would have thought you would be in a good mood after the Crusaders loss.
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July 31, 2013 8:01pm
thedavincimode

Dime, wtf have you done to yourself?

It seems Colville, that he has either been holiday-making in the Congo, or sleeping on his stomach. Either of which are poor lifestyle choices nowadays.
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July 31, 2013 8:05pm
Pete George

Latest Roy Morgan.

National Party to 51% (up 4% since July 1-14, 2013)
Maori Party 1.5% (down 0.5%)
ACT NZ 1% (up 0.5%)
United Future 0% (unchanged).

Labour is 29% (down 2%)
Greens are 10% (down 1.5%)
New Zealand First 4% (down 0.5%)
Mana Party 1% (down 0.5%)

Conservative Party of NZ 1.5% (unchanged)
Others 1% (up 0.5%)

Not much one needs to say about that really.
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July 31, 2013 8:10pm
Colville

So he has had his hands chopped off with a machette then been arse raped? Tuff day indeed! 🙂
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July 31, 2013 8:12pm
Colville

PG.

Left continues its downward slide !

Yipppeeeee!!!
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July 31, 2013 8:13pm
Reid

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/07/28/water-powered-car-unveiled-yes-its-real/#_

Left continues its downward slide !

It would be nice, but they will start to move upward with the GCSB made-up by the media bollocks and the real Akld property issue to stop Asians bidding up the market. Whether or not the latter will work. It will work in the polls, you watch.
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July 31, 2013 8:15pm
bhudson

^^ It shows just how little people give a damn about GCSB. Labour suffer for focusing on the wrong things (again). 4.5 years and they still haven’t learned.

[The #chanban policy might give them a little uptick in the next poll, but even that will likely be somewhat muted by opinion managing to get through on MSM that the policy will have little or no real effect. And, of course, their insistence on focusing on GCSB]
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July 31, 2013 8:16pm
nasska

Bi-Curious?

Then go to a male doctor and complain of rectal bleeding.

The rather erotic anal probe will be a safe way to find out whether gayness is really for you.
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July 31, 2013 8:16pm
Colville

Greens have been on a serious downward trend for a while now…oh what a pity never mind (in Windsor Davis’s accent) 🙂
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July 31, 2013 8:17pm
Pete George

I think the Greens are suffering for Norman getting overconfident on his financial ambitions, and the punters who don’t mind a bit of an environmental voice are not going to tolerate the socialist swing.

And I expect people will give up on Labour at least until Shearer is shorn of the leadership.
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July 31, 2013 8:20pm
Scott Chris

United Future 0% ~~(unchanged)~~ flatlining.

Fixed.
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July 31, 2013 8:20pm
mikenmild

Any other parties registering 0%? WTF?
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July 31, 2013 8:22pm
Pete George

Emerging from crisis, give it some time. In the meantime, before they say the poll, some humour from The Standard:

*Note to Shearer*…Shit or get off the pot!
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July 31, 2013 8:26pm
Reid

The #chanban policy might give them a little uptick in the next poll, but even that will likely be somewhat muted by opinion managing to get through on MSM that the policy will have little or no real effect.

I don’t agree bhudson. This chanban policy has significant leverage potential on a fundamental lifestyle issue in NZ’s largest demographic. Yes the GCSB is a beltway issue and yes the idiot media will milk it thus once again proving there is nothing so vigorously defended as a vested interest disguised as an intellectual conviction truism which plays out every day. And the useful idiots who class themselves as non-idiotic politically aware people will fall for it. And that gets the provinces. However the chanban policy has real bite which is why I’ve been telling the Nats for many months they need to do something, to front foot it. This has nothing to do with whether it will work or not, it has everything to do with being seen to do something about a real issue. And it is a real issue because Aklders keep getting outbid and telling their friends and workmates about it, all the time. And it will keep going becoming more and more a bugbear as the idiot journos who don’t understand economics but think they do, start asking govt minister after govt minister in interview after interview why this govt isn’t doing anything about it. This will happen. Just watch. And the lefty meme whereby they pretend the conservatives don’t care will burst forth in the populace. This is not obviously, what I want to happen, but this is what will happen based on current political positions. I guarantee it.
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July 31, 2013 8:34pm
Yoza

Pete George 8:10 pm

Latest Roy Morgan.

Come the revolution, Morgan and Roy will be first up against the wall.
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July 31, 2013 8:39pm
Reid

United Future 0% ~~(unchanged)~~ flatlining.

I wonder if the other Pete was flatlining when he clicked Send? Perhaps that’s why he preferred to resign.
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July 31, 2013 8:42pm
Pete George

Very funny (and predictable on current form) – has a party on so little ever before got so much attention? Thanks.
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July 31, 2013 8:50pm
nasska

….”Come the revolution, Morgan and Roy will be first up against the wall”….

I knew they were upright people who wouldn’t be bought but I didn’t realise they were that good. 🙂
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July 31, 2013 8:59pm
Reid

This is quite interesting:

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/07/29/316100/global-demand-for-saudi-oil-dropping/

Fracking I have to say, is nuts. Would you go and frack the foundation of your home? So why let oil companies in search of nothing more than revenue do it to the crust on which your home is built? Does that make any sense?
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July 31, 2013 8:59pm
Lucia Maria

Kea,

In regards to equality for all, what do you think about the recent item in the news about the poor Pakistani taxi driver who was subjected to racial and religious abuse that he filmed on his mobile phone before taking the drunk passenger to the police station?

For someone who comments here on just about everything, you seem strangely silent on this one.
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July 31, 2013 9:02pm
Elaycee

@dime – did some mean bugger switch the labels between your Vaseline and your Vicks? 😯
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July 31, 2013 9:10pm
Kea

Lucia Maria, I did comment on that. I think it was very bad form to say those things, but required no comment from the authorities, or any further action. You were pretty quiet too, considering you both fantasise about the existence of the same god.

You claim you were once a pagan, now Catholic, do you have anything else lined up next ? I suggest reality 😉
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July 31, 2013 9:18pm
thedavincimode

These Roy Morgan polls appear very sensitive to the length of Roy’s lunches.
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July 31, 2013 9:20pm
big bruv

Touch a raw nerve did I divinci?

Why is it that farmers can have a million dollar income yet pay less tax than a working stiff who earns just above the average wage?

These are the same farmers who go running to the tax payer for a hand out every time there is a drought or flood.

Can’t you guys budget?
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July 31, 2013 9:23pm
nickb

Why is it that farmers can have a million dollar income yet pay less tax than a working stiff who earns just above the average wage?

Because floods, bad global economic conditions, or drought make them live on the bones of their arse for half of the time, so they accrue tax losses. Surely you don’t advocate paying tax when you aren’t making money?

These are the same farmers who go running to the tax payer for a hand out every time there is a drought or flood.

Any evidence for that?
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July 31, 2013 9:26pm
Lucia Maria

Kea, yes I was quiet, but then I’m hardly here and I don’t comment on much, unlike you who seem to be here every day, morning till night. I went back and had a look and couldn’t find anything from you on that.

I see you’ve been researching me as well. I was raised Catholic, had a 20 year detour and then came full circle. Don’t have any plans to change to anything else as I pretty much realised while I was out that there was nothing else.

I’ve been online for many years now, and I’ve talked to a lot of atheists in that time, and seriously, not one of them would add PBUH to Mo, unless they were taking the mickey. Same for what you called the Americans. It would have to be satire for it to be written by an atheist.
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July 31, 2013 9:31pm
Kea

Farmers should be the wealthiest people on earth the world over. They produce something essential. But mostly they are poor. Even in NZ their returns are very modest based on the size of their investment. Most of the rich in this country have produced bugger all and make money on speculation. That is mixed up.
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July 31, 2013 9:31pm
thedavincimode

Why is it that farmers can have a million dollar income yet pay less tax than a working stiff who earns just above the average wage?

Must have been a bad day to provoke that little outburst of utter crap bb.
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July 31, 2013 9:39pm
Kea

It would have to be satire for it to be written by an atheist.

Lucia Maria, of course it was satire !

Now go to bed and commit some sins to forgive on Sunday 😉
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July 31, 2013 9:58pm
dime

Must .. Not.. Walk. Toward ..the .. Light…
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July 31, 2013 10:14pm
Manolo

Crony capitalism Messiah-style: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07/31/feds-lax-in-granting-100m-for-electric-car-charging-stations-says-watchdog/
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August 1, 2013 6:11am
Griff

Lucia Maria
Is thinking
Exorcism will fix that possession of yours kea

Modern folks dont believe in superstitious nonsense
We recognize it as a metal illness
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August 1, 2013 7:32am
UglyTruth

We recognize it as a metal illness

Like the belief that you know what others are thinking, Griff?
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August 1, 2013 10:36am
ZenTiger

Griff is thinking that he is an idiot for putting words in other people’s mouths.
Griff is thinking how dare some-one do that to him.
Griff is thinking that turnabout is not fair play.
Griff will take matters into his own hands.
Griff wont feel any better for it.
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August 1, 2013 7:28pm
ZenTiger

And Kea has been partaking of the 1080 again.
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