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Harriet

God loves you prog sinners! 😎
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July 17, 2013 8:01am
Lance

Re the Auckland house price issue.
Yet another article in the Herald this morning saying how truly horribly awful things are.
One young couple are so desperate to buy a house they can afford they are forced to look in West Auckland.
Oh the humanity

I am so sick of this unadulterated bullshit.
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July 17, 2013 8:06am
Pete George

Winston Peters was told to stuff off by the police yesterday. But he’s not giving in, claiming he really does have some information, despite not fronting up with anything credible over the last two months.

If they don’t consider the rest of the information I think they will be severely embarrassed.

And if police consider the “further information” a further waste of time it will be Peters who is severely embarrassed. He’s certainly not a quitter, but this could further backfire.

Winstons Peters on police complaint – “severely embarrassed”
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July 17, 2013 8:08am
Andrei

Today in history – 17th July 1944

The Wehrmacht finally get to march through the streets of Moscow something they thought they would be doing in 1941 they did in 1944 but it wasn’t in the manner they expected.

At the end of their parade the streets were washed clean.

http://youtu.be/NZh_t7pGMpY
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July 17, 2013 8:12am
Pauleastbay

Top point Lance

Very few people’s first house is their ultimate house.

There is a generation out there that think they caan have it all by the time they are 27, again a situation that very few people are fortunate to find them selves in.

But that article wasn’t as bad as yesterdays concerning the poor sheila who was so shy that she couldn’t face the work place but had no problem standing up at a public protest outside the WINZ office and speaking on a loud hailer. There was too much irony there for it to have slipped past the reporter and the editors, so it must have been deliberate and again just anti-government.
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July 17, 2013 8:15am
thedavincimode

Harriet

I could hardly help but read that. Congratulations on forming a sentence without any direct or indirect references to homosexuality and anal sex. Did you buy a pet to help you stop fantasising?
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July 17, 2013 8:18am
Lance

@Pauleastbay
The point being that most of West Auckland has nice housing, some bloody nice (My Lake Panorama area is one of the most beautiful areas in Auckland IMHO).
Yet it is spoken about as though all housing in West Auckland is ghetto status.

So I have to conclude that articles like these are a joint venture of at best ignorance and worst snobbery.
‘Give me Grey Lynn or I die’
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July 17, 2013 8:22am
Keeping Stock

The last thing that the Australian cricket team needs at the moment is to have its state of dysfunction splashed all over the media. If Michael Clarke and Shane Watson ever bat together in this Ashes series, it will be interesting to see who runs who out first!

http://keepingstock.blogspot.co.nz/2013/07/just-what-australian-cricket-doesnt-need.html
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July 17, 2013 8:22am
RF

Makes an interesting change for the water Mellon party to erect a poster critical of Simon Bridges. They usually deface them and tear them down. Naughty confused children.
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July 17, 2013 8:23am
Lance

@RF
And with the deeply philosophical debate

“Pants on fire”

Aimed at the literacy and mentality of their target audience I guess?
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July 17, 2013 8:27am
Tauhei Notts

Racing Tips on Kiwiblog are rare but here is one for all the wankers that post on here.
Meeting 9
Race 8
Dog #3
Yeah, that’s right. The Wanganui Greyhounds.
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July 17, 2013 8:31am
wreck1080

Is this just a coincidence?

Independent Newspaper in the UK published a news story last week…

“Half of all babies born out of wedlock”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/half-of-all-babies-born-out-of-wedlock-8703059.html?origin=internalSearch

Todays Stuff headline….

“Nearly half of babies born outside wedlock”
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8926685/Nearly-half-of-babies-born-outside-wedlock

I wonder if the kiwi journalists read overseas papers for news ideas.
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July 17, 2013 8:37am
Harriet

thedavincimode#

“…Congratulations on forming a sentence without any direct or indirect references to homosexuality and anal sex….”

I’ve never made referances to ‘anal sex’ as it doesn’t exist.

Sex is coitus, which includes 2 sexual organs.

‘Gender’ btw is another word that has been hi-jacked by the sexualists – it’s real purpose is to denote whether words themselves are femine or masculine – not people!

Sexualists are poorly educated. 😎
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July 17, 2013 8:48am
Colville

Harriet.

Did you coach President Clinton prior to his rather famous “I did not have sexual relations with THAT woman” remarks?

Because obbviously on the planet you inhabit a blowjob isnt sex!
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July 17, 2013 8:57am
Redbaiter

I would ignore Kevin Harriet. He never contributes much more than cowardly snide attempts at ridicule or lies and false allegations. A sad loser embittered even more by his recent job loss and who constantly reminds us just how inappropriate the word “gay” is as a euphemism for homosexuality.
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July 17, 2013 9:00am
Manolo

Ridiculing Captain Mumblefuck: http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/comment/tom-scott-cartoons/6736460/Tom-Scott-2013
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July 17, 2013 9:01am
thedavincimode

KS

They seem to channelling their Labour party – our’s too for that matter.
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July 17, 2013 9:03am
Scott Chris

God loves you prog sinners!

I think what Harry means is that God loves Harry even though Harry hates himself for being a homosexual.
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July 17, 2013 9:03am
Keeping Stock

@ thedavincimode – indeed; Shane Watson appears to be the Australian cricket team’s equivalent of Kevin Rudd, although he hasn’t resorted to stabbing his skipper in the back yet 😀
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July 17, 2013 9:07am
Harriet

“….Because obbviously on the planet you inhabit a blowjob isnt sex!….”

It’s fellatio.

Look up ‘sex’ in any dictionary – the procreative act[which needs two sexual organs].
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July 17, 2013 9:11am
Scott Chris

blowjob isnt sex!
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July 17, 2013 9:11am
cha

Look up ‘sex’ in any dictionary – the procreative act[which needs two sexual organs]

That’ll be why Catholic girls were so keen to eat white meat on Fridays.
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July 17, 2013 9:16am
Griff

Also explains catholic preoccupation with all things anal.
Harry it is trying to convince itself that cock suck sex isint sin cause it isint sex.
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July 17, 2013 9:21am
Harriet

“…..I think what Harry means is that God loves Harry even though Harry hates himself for being a homosexual….”

You got the first bit right.

But I don’t think gays should hate themselves. If they got to that point, then I think it would be best that they look at changing – or at least toning it down a bit, or taking a break from it, or getting some help. They shouldn’t hate themselves though.
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July 17, 2013 9:27am
Kea

Harriet has made it very clear that Catholics do not consider anal, or oral, to be “sex”. The great news is that Catholic girls, and some other “god fearing” women, agree, and will enthusiastically blow you and take it up the bum, satisfied their virtue remains intact.

I have to side with the religious folk on this one and I wish more of their atheist sisters would listen to Harriet’s message, which is: “taking it up the arse and giving out blowjobs is not sex”.
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July 17, 2013 9:29am
Pete George

Look up ‘sex’ in any dictionary – the procreative act[which needs two sexual organs]

I’ve looked up a number of dictionaries and can’t find it defined like this. ‘Sex’ has a number of meanings, I presume the’coitus’ version is being referenced here. It means:

sexual intercourse, especially between a man and a woman.

“copulation,” 1713, scientific L., from coition (1610s) “sexual intercourse” (also in coitu), originally “coming together” (1540s), from L.L. coitionem (nom. coitio), from pp. stem of L. coire, from co- “together” + ire “come, go,” from PIE base *ei- “to go.” Used in Eng. in general senses of “meeting,

That’s nothing like the very narrow Harriet definition.
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July 17, 2013 9:32am
Harriet

Kea.

It’s foreplay.

Why has the english language been dumbed down so much in NZ – it’s hardly progressive! 😎
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July 17, 2013 9:35am
Harriet

PG

No doctor is ever going to say that gays have ‘coitus’.
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July 17, 2013 9:37am
BeaB

Poor Poms

Send workers home if temperature hits 30C, say MPs who fear heatwave will cause accidents and deaths
High temperatures could start to hit the health of vulnerable people – with potentially deadly consequences
Health workers and social services on alert after level two warning issued by authorities.
Level three warning may be issued tomorrow, ordering carers and medical staff to take urgent action

An elderly woman spent all yesterday in the glare of the sun after she was trapped in a collapsed deckchair
Hedgehogs have also suffered in the heat, as hedgehog hospital see spike in admissions
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July 17, 2013 9:38am
dime

“We’ve been forced to look in west Auckland because the prices everywhere else are so expensive,” Miss Longville said.”

Go fuck yourself you stupid little girl

Perish the thought you couldn’t start out in your dream house.

You might want to change the attitude if you are planning on living out west.
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July 17, 2013 9:39am
cha

It’s foreplay.

Whatever you call it harry-it, it certainly made the CCD long weekend camps so much more enjoyable.
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July 17, 2013 9:40am
dime

Dime is still in shock.

A 22 year old earning 40 stacks can only afford a house in west auckland. what a fucking princess. i hope none of her friends visit more than once. “eww you live out there now?”.
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July 17, 2013 9:48am
Northland Wahine

I don’t get it, if anal isn’t a sin, how could gays having bum sex be a sin?
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July 17, 2013 9:48am
flipper

dime (6,736) Says:

July 17th, 2013 at 9:39 am
“We’ve been forced to look in west Auckland because the prices everywhere else are so expensive,” Miss Longville said.”

Go fuck yourself you stupid little girl

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1. Absolutely, Dime.

2. And….. all that crap when the CPI is at a 14 year nadir.

3. Incomes are up about 2.3% (except mine!)

4. Beneficiaries registered are down by 10,000, pre latest tightening of rules

5. TV One continued to promote (this morning) the “living wage” crap, with a single word on “who pays” and consequential matters, and

6. APN/Herald continued to promote this morning the plight of the “poor” who are too shy to look for work.

Oh well. That’s NZ, mid July 2013
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July 17, 2013 9:53am
Ed Snack

NW, surely it doesn’t have to be sex to be a sin does it ? Envy is surely a sin, but it ain’t sex.
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July 17, 2013 9:55am
KiwiGreg

My question wrt the 22 year old couple “forced” to look out west is always “why?” Why are you allowing your personal details (they could be fictitious of course) to be used for a political campaign run under the guise of news reporting. Why did you go to the paper with your “story”?
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July 17, 2013 10:03am
b1gdaddynz

@KiwiGreg my guess is that they are hoping someone will feel sorry for them and stump up the cash
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July 17, 2013 10:19am
Northland Wahine

Ed,

So gays that envy others are sinful and their intimate practices aren’t? There a go Harriet, sorted!

Thanks Ed:)
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July 17, 2013 10:21am
Rick Rowling

While we’re debating the definition of “oral”:

Eatin’ ain’t cheatin’.
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July 17, 2013 10:25am
wikiriwhis business

Max Keiser on parliamentary report on banking standards

Financial journalist Max Keiser recalled working in Wall Street when “greed was good” but said he believed that “standards in banking industry have collapsed”.

He took aim at some of those in the financial markets after a parliamentary report on banking standards proposed jail sentences – and withholding bonuses – for those responsible for reckless misconduct.

Now a broadcaster with Russia Today, he gives his take on wrongdoing in banking in a personal film for BBC1’s This Week aimed at the “banksters”.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23002310
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July 17, 2013 10:32am
Pauleastbay

@ Dime A 22 year old earning 40 stacks can only afford a house i…………….

What sort of boring dull as dish water 22 year is even thinking about buying a house when they should be out there drinking and partying and travelling and having a life rather than running running off to the newspaper for their politicl party.
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July 17, 2013 10:37am
wikiriwhis business

“The Maw of This Cuisinart of Fraud”
Meet Max Keiser, the thinking man’s Alex Jones.

By Jeremy Stahl|

Overseas at least, Keiser’s media profile will likely rise and fall not on his radical forecasting but his equally radical populist rage. However controlled and calculated it might be, his shtick goes way beyond the kind of liberal-tarian economic rhetoric that might get a hearing on MSNBC. In a glowing profile late last year, Britain’s left-leaning Independent newspaper predicted that Keiser will become “the most widely watched news commentator on the planet,” lauding his “sardonic, quick-fire” style. “No channel in the United States will carry his broadcasts,” the paper added, “which go well beyond the benign impudence of The Daily Show.”

http://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2013/07/max_keiser_of_russia_today_the_youtube_star_is_the_thinking_man_s_alex_jones.html
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July 17, 2013 10:37am
wikiriwhis business

Colorado town considers licensing bounty hunters to shoot down drones

http://www.dailypaul.com/292788/colorado-town-considers-licensing-bounty-hunters-to-shoot-down-drones?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailypaul%2FFClq+%28The+Daily+P.Au.L+-+Peace+|+Gold+|+Love%29&utm_content=FaceBook
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July 17, 2013 10:55am
wikiriwhis business

$20 Trillion dollars of oil discovered in Australia

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/231355-20-trillion-dollars-oil-discovered-australia.html#ixzz2ZFinpOAs
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July 17, 2013 11:04am
Fletch

sexual intercourse, especially between a man and a woman.

“copulation,” 1713, scientific L., from coition (1610s) “sexual intercourse” (also in coitu), originally “coming together” (1540s), from L.L. coitionem (nom. coitio), from pp. stem of L. coire, from co- “together” + ire “come, go,” from PIE base *ei- “to go.” Used in Eng. in general senses of “meeting,

That’s nothing like the very narrow Harriet definition.

PG, actually, that is exactly the harriet definition.
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July 17, 2013 11:09am
wreck1080

@dime:

20 years ago they could have afforded to do so. (as I bought a 3 bedroom house in Mt Eden on a single income for 270k back then).

Just shows how Auckland prices have become unaffordable where they previously were.
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July 17, 2013 11:13am
Fletch

The new ‘talking point’ in the Zimmerman case that is being picked up all over the internet?
It’s that Trayvon was the bigot in this case, who thought Zimmerman was a gay rapist.

From DRUDGE –

Last night Trayvon Martin’s friend Rachel Jeantel gave CNN her first interview since testifying in the George Zimmerman murder trial.

Jeantel opened up and let loose on the murder case that gripped that nation.

She explained to CNN’s Piers Morgan how she warned her childhood friend that Zimmerman — could be a gay rapist!

MORGAN: You felt that there was no doubt in your mind from what Trayvon was telling you on the phone about the creepy ass cracka and so on, that he absolutely believed that George Zimmerman, this man, you didn’t know who he was at the time, but this man, was pursuing him?

JEANTEL: Yes.

MORGAN: And he was freaked out by it?

JEANTEL: Yes. Definitely after I say may be a rapist, for every boy, for every man, every — who’s not that kind of way, seeing a grown man following them, would they be creep out?

She continued:

“And people need to understand, he didn’t want that creepy ass cracker going to his father or girlfriend’s house to go get — mind you, his little brother was there. You know — now, mind you, I told you — I told Trayvon it might have been a rapist.”
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July 17, 2013 11:14am
cha

Murderer

How would Florida State Attorney Angela Corey describe George Zimmerman in one word?

“Murderer.”
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July 17, 2013 11:24am
Longknives

Try to read this without getting angry…

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10899035

‘WINZ is racist coz they cut my benefit’ etc etc
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July 17, 2013 11:26am
liarbors a joke

..and this

http://www.nzcpr.com/NewsletterArchive.htm
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July 17, 2013 11:29am
Kea

$20 Trillion dollars of oil discovered in Australia

wikiriwhis business, thanks for that “Peak Oil” update. With the US producing at record levels it looks like we are set to enter a golden age of cheap and available organic fuels. 🙂
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July 17, 2013 11:31am
Fletch

All British schoolchildren will be forced to study Islamic history come next year.

Beginning in 2014, the United Kingdom will require all British schoolchildren to complete a unit on the history of Islam, proudly reports Press TV, Iran’s very own 24-hour English language news organization.

British Education Secretary Michael Gove announced the addition of a Muslim-specific component after revisions were made to address an outcry over a prior draft that did not include any references to the monotheistic Abrahamic religion.

Muslims were among the most vocal critics. The Muslim Council of Britain, which represents about 500 Islamic institutes across Britain, declared that it was “deeply disappointed.”

The revised curriculum is “great,” though, according to Salim Mulla, chairman of the Lancashire Council of Mosques. Sulla believes that people in the country could use “a better understanding of all faiths,” notes Press TV.

“There is already a good understanding of Christianity taught in schools,” Mulla told the Iranian media outlet. “But I don’t think a lot of Christians really understand what the Muslim faith is about.”

Islam is technically the third-largest religious affiliation in the country, according to The Guardian. Christianity is the largest religious group. People claiming to have no religion is the second. Those two groups make up the vast majority of Britons.

A spokesman for the Blackburn Diocese Board of Education spoke favorably of the new draft curriculum.

“As is well known, the early Islamic civilizations gave much to the world,” the spokesman said, “and we would certainly support the teaching of such an important part of world history.”

The British government is currently establishing a new national curriculum for primary and secondary education. The finished product is supposed to be introduced in schools in the fall of 2014.

I wonder if they will be including the multiple jihadi military invasions of Europe. I would recommend Jihad in the West: Muslim Conquests from the 7th to the 21st Centuries by Paul Fregosi.

“Jihad,” the Muslim holy war against Christians and others, has raged for 1,300 years with bloody conquests in Europe dating from campaigns to convert the infidels in the 7th century to today’s random acts of terrorism in the name of Allah. Yet this huge unrecorded “hole” in European history has been censored and stifled by political and literary authorities who have feared reprisals from angry Muslims trying to hide a legacy of brutality vastly more bloody and six times longer in duration than the atrocities of the crusades.

This is the engrossing factual account of the immense and little-known Islamic military invasions of Europe, and the major players who led them, beginning around 650 CE. The Islamic Arabs (and later the Moors) occupied a number of the Mediterranean Islands, and invaded Spain and Portugal in 711 CE, and ruled over much of the Iberian peninsula for the next 800 years. France was attacked and invaded, as was Italy, and the European coasts all the way to Ireland and Iceland. The Muslims swept over the Balkans, besieged Vienna, and were intermittent masters of Greece, Bulgaria, Romania, and Hungary into the 19th century, destroying the Byzantines and conquering Constantinople (turning it into Istanbul). Ambitious and unrelenting, the Muslims also sought to conquer Austria and Russia.

http://www.amazon.com/Jihad-West-Conquests-Centuries-ebook/dp/B002JCU4G2/ref=tmm_kin_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1374017297&sr=8-1

I pretty much expect all that to be whitewashed away.
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July 17, 2013 11:33am
dime

“$20 Trillion dollars of oil discovered in Australia”

I just hope they leave it alone. think of future generations. they will need money too.
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July 17, 2013 11:34am
Northland Wahine

Longknives,

I’m Maori and I’m racist too apparently.

As I tell those who are 5 minutes late as I rebook an appointment, “how often would you turn up for work late before you pay was cut or you were sacked?” Why would an employer hire you when you can not even be bothered turning up on time, or for that matter, at all? I hear the excuse, “I have things to do?” Like what? Look for work? Or do you have a job?

There are plenty of people taking work search seriously. It’s a pity the herald and the like focus on those who don’t.
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July 17, 2013 11:35am
cha

But not a squeak about the new Whanau Ora arrangements to hand over $40 million of taxpayers money to three agencies who’ll be exempted from the OIA requirements – allowing them spend it in private on whatever they like.
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July 17, 2013 11:37am
wikiriwhis business

“All British schoolchildren will be forced to study Islamic history come next year.”

No wonder our visa’s got cut back. NZ would have to publicly support sharia law to become approved friendly.
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July 17, 2013 11:41am
Pete George

And not a squeak about the sister of National MP Amy Adams appointed to the Families Commission, following the recent appointment of Hekia Parata’s husband to the Commission.

Whether they are the best selections for the positions or not this sort of jacked up jobs for mates perception could damage National, especially if it accumulates.
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July 17, 2013 11:45am
wikiriwhis business

Absolutely explosive information about
the nature and extent of the NSA’s
domestic spying program.

Is the NSA blackmailing government
officials to make sure they get the
powers and funding they want?

It sure looks that way.

Video:

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/23877.html
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July 17, 2013 11:45am
wikiriwhis business

“Whether they are the best selections for the positions or not this sort of jacked up jobs for mates perception could damage National, especially if it accumulates.”

National Socialists making Winston look better day by day
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July 17, 2013 11:46am
Kea

Fletch, they could also mention the hundreds of thousands of white christian slaves taken. Estimates are over a million were abducted in coastal slave raids. It was said at one time you could purchase a christian for the price of an onion ! Of course this is seldom mentioned as they were white.

The UK is a Muslim nation, by their own choice, and I consider it a lost culture.
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July 17, 2013 11:48am
Kea

I just hope they leave it alone. think of future generations. they will need money too.

dime, They will need to be a long way in the future given the current rate of oil deposits being located. My guess is much of this wonderful bounty of nature will be left in the ground as big oil companies pour billions into alternative energy that will ease demand. Humanity owes a huge debt to the oil industry.
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July 17, 2013 11:53am
Tauhei Notts

Further to my 8.31 post.
There is a bitch in race 11 named Zippit Sweetie.
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July 17, 2013 12:03pm
Scott Chris

How would Florida State Attorney Angela Corey describe George Zimmerman in one word?

Before she criticizes Zimmerman, she should walk a mile in his shoes.

In that way she’ll be a mile away and have a pair of shoes.
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July 17, 2013 12:11pm
Kea

Scott Chris:

1. What part of Zimmerman do you hate, the white part or the Puerto Rican part ?

2. Why do you think blacks should be able to smash Puerto Ricans heads into the pavement ?

If Obama had a son he could look like Zimmerman. Both have identical degree of “whiteness” 🙂
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July 17, 2013 12:18pm
Harriet

Barry & Moochelle : Cool or Cruel?

Duke Ellington brought American “black entertainment” to the heights, mixing his muse comfortably, and on a footing of real equality, with Shakespeare and Steinbeck, Tchaikovsky and Grieg, always studying, always learning — so that today, his supposed heirs can rant in a drugged-up stupor about killing cops and defiling women.

Ella Fitzgerald became America’s “First Lady of Song” by expanding her repertoire from the popular dance tunes of her early days to masterful renderings of Gershwin, Porter, and Ellington in the 1950s; her heiresses today slink around like strippers using words and images to enliven the basest sentiments of the perpetual pubescents that comprise today’s pop music audience.

Today’s so-called black leaders, including their “beige” president (to use Ellington’s phraseology) are firmly on the side of the glamorizors of cop-killing, rape, and prostitution.
They have deliberately squandered or obscured the gains of the twentieth century for their own evil, oppressive purposes.

It is for that half-white president to stop trying to earn “his props” by flaunting his friendship with the millionaire “pimps” and “hoes” of the “black entertainment industry” who sell drugs, violence, racism, and sex as the secret path to “coolness,” i.e., acceptance, when in truth — as the lives of so many of these “entertainers” beyond age thirty prove — the heaven they are selling is in fact the pit of an inescapable hell.

Enough of the White House gala evenings and Michelle Obama tweetings about Beyoncé, Jay-Z, and the rest of the creeps, punks, and porn stars-cum singers.

If you want to “honor Trayvon Martin,” stop actively corrupting the character and sentiment of each new generation of Trayvons.

Stop encouraging, excusing, and even praising behavior that causes broken families, government dependency, moral decay, illiteracy, the degradations of a permanent underclass — and, all too often, sad wastes like the “tragedy” of February 26, 2012.

In short, if you want to honor Trayvon Martin, end American progressivism now!

I don’t – that violent dead jerk got what he deserved! 😎
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July 17, 2013 12:33pm
iMP

Bob Dylan arrested. http://conzervative.wordpress.com/2013/07/17/bob-dylan-arrested/
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July 17, 2013 12:37pm
Kea

Scott Chris, here is another one for ya to write angry comments about: (Thanks iMP)

Police were called in a quiet seaside town after he was spotted freewheelin’ down the street and apparently acting suspiciously

‘Residents called to complain there was an old scruffy man acting suspiciously,’ said officer Spencer. ‘It was an odd request because it was mid-afternoon. But it’s an ethnic Latin area and the residents felt he didn’t fit in.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/bigbrother/article-1206617/Like-complete-unknown-Bob-Dylan-frogmarched-collect-ID-rookie-policewoman-fails-recognise-scruffy-music-legend.html#ixzz2ZG87xqrs
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July 17, 2013 12:48pm
Kea

I am looking forward to all the outrage of this “racial profiling”

Funny that Bobs real name is Robert Allen ZIMMERMAN 🙂
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July 17, 2013 12:54pm
Fletch

I have no time for Florida State Attorney Angela Corey.
She withheld evidence that should have been turned over to the Defense, and if not for one of her employees (now fired) it wouldn’t have been known about.

Charges should never have been brought. it was political.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q6t9ey_RG0
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July 17, 2013 12:56pm
bereal

A glimpse into the mind of a perverse idealogist tosspot.

“Road taxes will effect working people much more than people on high incomes.”
a gem from Phil Twyford, (Labour party deep thinker) yesterday.

Of course thats right Phil, nobody earning a high income works.

Actually, i can’t decide if that is the statement of a tosspot or just a wanker.
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July 17, 2013 1:09pm
Ed Snack

Yep, Angela Corey is a flat out racist, and her conduct in concealing evidence and bringing inappropriate charges should result in her being permanently disbarred. That’s what ultimately happened to Mike Nifong, the prosecutor who acted extremely similarly in and identical racist dog whistle case, the Duke Lacrosse Rape case.

Corey of course will go on to be a political success riding on the current wave of racism in the USA, added and promoted by those who benefit from the racism.
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July 17, 2013 1:11pm
Zapper

Well what a pleasant surprise – GD isn’t a gathering of bitter old men yearning for the days of All Blacks being destitute and winning test matches 3-0 🙂
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July 17, 2013 1:28pm
Fletch

Oh, and race baiter Al Sharpton has done this before as well, stirring up things like he did in Crown Heights and the riots of 22 years ago.

http://yidwithlid.blogspot.co.nz/2013/07/al-sharpton-from-crown-hights-to.html
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July 17, 2013 1:32pm
Kea

Fletch, looks like we get no outrage over the racial profiling of a middle ages white male who is not a criminal.
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July 17, 2013 1:40pm
Fletch

There’s a blogger who has done quite a good post looking at the issue from both the black and white sides (he was raised on naval bases as a kid, played freely with black kids and didn’t know anything about racism until his teenage years), and he talks about ‘profiling’ in a more intelligent manner –

Then there’s the absurd “profiling” thing. People profile! There isn’t an adult in this country living in close proximity to other people who doesn’t, on a daily basis, engage in some sort of profiling. If you’re walking down the street and you need to ask directions you are far more likely to approach a businessman in a suit, or a woman in sports clothes than you are some hoodie-wearing black teenager with his pants buckled around his ass and six inches of his pants dragging the ground. If you’re trying to find the shoe section of a department store you are going to look for someone wearing a nametag. That’s profiling! Profiling is a tool of daily survival. Whites perceive this whole “profiling is bad” argument as an attempt by the black community to shield themselves from the societal consequences of the high level of criminal activity occurring in their neighborhoods. Whites are hearing “Yeah … we know where the crime is coming from, but don’t you dare act on that knowledge. That would be profiling!”

http://www.wsbradio.com/weblogs/nealz-nuze/2013/jul/15/zimmerman-verdict/
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July 17, 2013 1:45pm
Manolo

A crook’s shameless exploitation: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/hillary-clinton-trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-verdict-94301.html
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July 17, 2013 1:53pm
Scott Chris

1. What part of Zimmerman do you hate, the white part or the Puerto Rican part ?

2. Why do you think blacks should be able to smash Puerto Ricans heads into the pavement ?

Bah.

Go read the Zimmerman thread if you’re really interested in my reasoning – and try to get it into your terminally softened racist head that my assessment of his actions has nothing to do with race.
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July 17, 2013 2:01pm
Kea

Scott Chris:

1. Who am I “racist” against ? (Strange thing to say considering I am as “white” as Obama.)

2. Any comment on the racial profiling of Robert Zimmerman aka Bob Dylan ?

‘Residents called to complain there was an old scruffy man acting suspiciously,’ said officer Spencer. ‘It was an odd request because it was mid-afternoon. But it’s an ethnic Latin area and the residents felt he didn’t fit in.’

You are full of shit. You look down your nose at darkies and regard them as less capable. That is where the double standard comes from. You think we owe darkies a duty of care because they are inferior. Can you direct me to where you have ranted on about a black killing a white person ? It is not like you have a lack of choice.
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July 17, 2013 2:15pm
Colville

I am getting a security popup , started today, on KB site only. Any ideas?
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July 17, 2013 2:51pm
Manolo

I am getting a security popup, started today, on KB site only. Any ideas?

Your missus is checking the websites you visit. KB has a dubious reputation, maybe. 😀
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July 17, 2013 3:03pm
publicwatchdog

FYI Kiwibloggers 🙂
_________________________________________________________________________________________________

OPEN LETTER

Tony Ryall
Minister of Health

Dear Minister,

In response to your reply, received today, 17 July 2013:

“On behalf of Hon Tony Ryall, Minister of Health, thank you for your email of 16 July 2013 about Fluoridation.

The Minister has asked Ministry of Health officials to advise him on the matters you have raised. Please be aware that due to the large volume of correspondence we receive, a personal reply to your letter may take some weeks.”
__________________________________________________________________________________________________

Please be advised that am not requesting a ‘personal reply’ to my letter – I am expecting an OIA reply, according to the statutory framework – of 20 working days?

Arguably, if the ‘science is settled’, and yourself as Minister of Health and the Ministry of Health are so sure:

“there was no doubt science pointed to the fact that there were benefits for families from fluoridation, and that the levels of fluoridation in water were safe for New Zealanders.”

then the FACTS and EVIDENCE should surely be readily available, unless, of course it is yourself as Minister and Ministry of Health officials, who are providing the ‘misinformation’ about the benefits and safety of water fluoridation?

I do sincerely hope that this is not the case.

My understanding is that the basis of the scientific method is to ‘seek truth from facts’?

That is what I try to do as an ‘investigative activist’ (as it were).

I do understand that you’re extremely busy (there you are not alone), but both yourself, and Ministry of Health officials, may find it beneficial to take the time to read the results of some hundreds of hours of voluntary research I did relating to the quality of Waikato river water as a ‘raw source’ of drinking water for the Auckland region, back in November 2002:f

Then you may have a better understanding of why people such as myself, do NOT trust either the Ministry of Health, or Watercare Services Ltd, when it comes to the safeguarding of public health and drinking water supplies.

http://www.occupyaucklandvsaucklandcouncilappeal.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Waikato-Amended-ACC-Presentation-18-10-02.pd

Please be reminded that as a 2013 Auckland Mayoral candidate, I do NOT support the fluoridation of public drinking water supplies, and this will be one of the my ‘campaign issues’.

Looking forward to receiving this OIA reply within 20 working days.

Kind regards,

Penny Bright
‘Anti-corruption / anti-privatisation’ campaigner

2013 Auckland Mayoral candidate
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July 17, 2013 3:09pm
bhudson

@iMP,

I understand Dylan whiled away the time humming “I shall be released.” When questioned about his ordeal, he responded “It’s alright Ma, it’s life and life only.”
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July 17, 2013 3:21pm
publicwatchdog

Seen this yet Kiwibloggers?

Our #PantsOnFire billboard has caused quite a stir in Wellington .. but Simon Bridges MP has so far failed to clear his name in response to allegations that he mislead Parliament and New Zealand over his dealings with Shell regarding the controversial Crown Minerals Bill amendment and law changes around protest at sea … http://act.gp/18mj1DH

And he says that we can deal with an oil spill. We can’t.

He also said that he thought the photo was good and he was chuffed to have his own billboard in Wellington… http://goo.gl/ygdSw

#AnadarkoAmendment
____________________________________________________________________________________________________

This is a form of ‘corrupt practice’ known as ‘State capture’ – where vested interests lobby for the legislation that serves their interests at the ‘policy’ stage, before the legislation is passed.

In my considered opinion as an ‘anti-corruption’ campaigner – this is a form of ‘grand’ corruption which is endemic in corrupt, polluted tax haven – New Zealand (aka ‘the least corrupt country in the world’ ).

(Check out the Regulatory Impact Statements / Reports and see who has been ‘consulted’? )

Penny Bright
‘Anti-corruption /anti-privatisation’ campaigner

2013 Auckland Mayoral candidate
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July 17, 2013 3:52pm
Pete George

Nick Smith has truned down the Dart tunnel to Milford.

Nick Smith says it was one of the biggest and hardest decision he’s made as Minister. He says the financial & environmental risks too big.

“Environmental impacts are beyond what’s appropriate in two of the country’s most spectacular national parks”

He has safety concerns about the 11km long 5m wide tunnel particularly with fires.
He says $180million isn’t enough.
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July 17, 2013 3:56pm
Manolo

The incompetent Luddite and fifth-columnist Nick Smith strikes again: http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/minister-rejects-proposed-milford-tunnel-project-5512871

Yes, let us make the whole of NZ a national park. Welcome back to the 11th century.
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July 17, 2013 4:01pm
Left Right and Centre

How to feed a family of six for under $20- my latest pet hate-

Cheating- recipe calls for 150mls of cream. Counts as $1 in recipe. But you can’t buy $1 worth. 300mls minimum.

So… that ingredient really cost $3.10. And then you have half the cream left.

And you need to buy paprika, nutmeg, cayenne pepper, ginger, curry powder, chicken soup powder, chicken stock powder, salas RTC stock, mixed herbs. That’s a lot of investment in herbs and spices. Fuck, I don’t have that much shit in my whole pantry, let alone one recipe.

I’m still trying to find where her page talks about spending only $200 a month on groceries.
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July 17, 2013 4:03pm
Kea

Manolo, did you hear the reasons Nick Smith gave ? A big one was that it was unlikely to be economically viable and involved huge cost and risk.

The real problem is the amount of valuable minerals, coal and oil, hidden away in National Parks and other wild places. They can be harvested with no financial risk to the tax payer and minor environmental impact.

A tunnel for buses is no big deal.
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July 17, 2013 4:34pm
RightNow

“How to feed a family of six for under $20”
Quick and easy bolognese:
1kg mince: $10
2 tins chopped peeled tomatoes: $2
1 onion: $0.30
500gm pasta: $1.70
500gm frozen mixed veg: $1.50
Salt, pepper, oil, cumin – maybe $0.50 worth.

And $4 left over. Fresh fruit perhaps?
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July 17, 2013 4:49pm
Manolo

An administration full of mafiosi: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/07/16/DOJ-phone-call-Zimmerman
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July 17, 2013 5:04pm
Colville

Rightnow, leave out the meat put in beans and more tomato (paste) do the whole thing for $10. But it wont be italian!
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July 17, 2013 5:08pm
Colville

I am getting a security popup, started today, on KB site only. Any ideas?

Your missus is checking the websites you visit. KB has a dubious reputation, maybe.

I think she may have pulled me up on bigblondesboobies.com by now if my dearest was checking up on me…
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July 17, 2013 5:12pm
nasska

LR&C

If you or anyone else ever need some hints for cheap yet not totally bland meals may I suggest the soft cover book, “Feasting off the Smell of an Oily Rag” by Muriel Newman & her clan.

Ref: Trade Me Listing #: 614673639
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July 17, 2013 6:02pm
nasska

Colville

If you want to live dangerously try http://www.tubegalore.com/

By the time you work your way through the index you’ll be beyond caring about popups. 🙂
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July 17, 2013 6:06pm
UglyTruth

This bears repeating:

Absolutely explosive information about
the nature and extent of the NSA’s
domestic spying program.

Is the NSA blackmailing government
officials to make sure they get the
powers and funding they want?

It sure looks that way.

Video:

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/23877.html
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July 17, 2013 6:17pm
nasska

These two guys had both just gone through ugly divorces and they swore they would never have anything to do with women again. They were best friends and they decided to move up to Alaska as far north as they could go so they’d never be tempted.

They got up there and went into a trader’s store and told him “Give us enough supplies to last two men for one year”. The trader got the gear together and on top of each one’s supplies he laid a board with a hole in it with fur around the hole.

The guys asked “What’s that board for?” The trader said “Well, where you’re going there are no women and you might need this”. They said “No way! We’ve sworn off women for life! Women are nothing but trouble”. The trader said “Well, take the boards with you, and if you don’t use them I’ll refund your money next year”. “Okay” they said and left.

The following year this guy came into the trader’s store and said “Give me enough supplies to last one man for one year”. The trader said “Weren’t you in here last year with a partner?” “Yeah” said the guy. “Where is he?” asked the trader. “I shot him” was the reply. “Why?” “I caught him in bed with my board!”
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July 17, 2013 8:00pm
thedavincimode

LRC

Why don’t you grow the fuck up. You’ve got a computer. You don’t do anything. Google food recipes instead of fucking around here. Go to the supermarket. Check the prices. You can eat cheap if you want to put the effort into working it out. Work it out for yourself. Stop behaving like a fucking child and playing the poor me card. And stop whinging about jobs that are beneath you or that you think would depress you. Do you think that everyone in this country has a job they love. FFS. People work because they need to. You put shit on the people at Bunnings, but it doesn’t seem to have registered with you that while you ridicule them, they’re actually out there working. Get off your arse and do something for yourself for a change.
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July 17, 2013 8:07pm
Pete George

UglyTruth at 6.17 pm – nothing to see there, shut up and move on, just remember to smile when you look up at the sky.

There is no reason why we shouldn’t know exactly what types of surveillance is going on in New Zealand in general terms. And what is happening to any data that is gathered. And where any New Zealand data might end up, for what and on what authority. There is no need for secrecy on any of that.

If the powers that be have legitimate reasons for specific surveillance then some secrecy is understandable.

But we should know what’s possible and what’s happening in general.
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July 17, 2013 8:15pm
nickb

Lucky we have Peter “Snowden” Dunne on the case to blow the whistle huh?
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July 17, 2013 9:28pm
adze

Has Russell Norman lost another flag? 🙂

http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/av0gv4M_700b_v1.jpg
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July 17, 2013 10:32pm
Left Right and Centre

thedavincimode 8:07 pm

1) I don’t do anything. I ran 15km today. Did you run 15km today? I play and sing the piano… just been doing that. I’m not saving the world but I’m not doing nothing. That *would* be boring.

2) Poor me. You’ve got the wrong end of the stick there. I’m not saying poor me I can’t afford the ingredients, I’m saying that it’s a bit of a con the way the recipes are priced out…*for other people*… not me.

Do you want to know what I eat every day quite happily? Meal 1: 1 x 420g tin of mackerel. Meal 2: Porridge with two bananas chopped in. Meal 3: Casserole; chicken thighs, pumpkin, onion, cabbage and grated carrot. It’s slow cooking as I type. And I mix it with tins of diced tomato at a ratio of 2:1 roughly when it’s cooked. Beautiful!!

I don’t have any fuckin problems with my diet or nutrition or menu… sorry to disappoint you.

And if I had all the money in the world? I’d *still* eat the same food. Why? Because I’m in shape and currently choosing the ‘not a fat git’ option.

And I could get the food bill down further… but hey.. I like Pepsi Max… I like a bit of gravy powder and seasoning. I like chicken. Don’t need it… but it’s damn good.

I already do all the things you’ve listed… so, sorry… I go to three different shops to do my fruit/ veg shopping. As you say.. I’ve got the time to fuck around and get the best deal and that’s what I do. Onions… $6 for 10kg. Pumpkin… 68c/ kilo. Bananas… $2/ kilo at one shop. Cabbage and carrot… Friday at pak n save market day… carrots cheap cost 80c/ kilo. Oh yeah.. I buy mandarins, apples and kiwifruit. That’s it, that’s my whole diet.

And if I want to make recipes… why, I like to think I make a very nice custard cream biscuit. Shit they’re good. Would you like a fucking custard cream biscuit? Butter, flour, eggs, caster sugar, mandarin, icing sugar, custard powder… I think that’s all there is to them… they’re so good, so simple… and so easy to throw together.
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