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Chuck Bird

Bouncer’s legal study paid off with acquittal
GRANT BRYANT
Last updated 05:00 16/07/2013

Queenstown’s notorious Tindallgate bouncer may have pulled off a legal coup by successfully defending himself against serious assault charges after firing his lawyer, a legal study shows.

Jonathan Dixon, 42, yesterday said weeks of legal and biomechanical study at Dunedin’s Hocken Library paid off when he fired his lawyer and defended himself against two serious assault charges stemming from a Queenstown nightclub incident last year.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/8921886/Bouncers-legal-study-paid-off-with-acquittal

This clearly shows that the claim by greedy lawyers that someone who represents themselves has a fool for a client is just arrogance. This guy had a jury but someone could do all right with a fair minded judge. The risk is that a judge carried his attitude towards self-represented litigants to the bench.

This could be remedied by judicial training and legislation changes if necessary requiring judges to treat self-represented litigants fairly and with respect. Electronically recording ALL proceeding would also be a great help.
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July 16, 2013 8:01am
nasska

Big brother knows everything. 🙂

Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/eopn538m31vo3yc/Spy.jpg
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July 16, 2013 8:03am
Lance

@nasska

LOL
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July 16, 2013 8:06am
big bruv

Seeing that those in Auckland are about to be stiffed for socialist transport I suggest that the best and fairest way to fund it would be a universal poll tax.

Charge everybody (including the parasites in state houses and those in private rental properties) a council (or poll tax), this ensures that everybody has a stake in paying for the public transport system.
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July 16, 2013 8:18am
Don the Kiwi

When a man opens the car door for his wife, its either a new car, or a new wife.
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July 16, 2013 8:20am
hj

What’s Big Bruv’s position on land taxes where the value of land increases due to infrastructure provided by taxpayers and ratepayers?

http://www.motu.org.nz/publications/detail/fiscal_distributional_and_efficiency_impacts_of_land_and_property_taxes
also What’s Big Bruv’s position on Nationals policy of population increase since this drives the need for infrastructure?
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July 16, 2013 8:22am
Colville

Morning nasska. been busy the last few days?
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July 16, 2013 8:28am
nasska

Fairly quiet on the work front until lambing starts thanks Colville. Alas, while I’m without the excuse of having something that must be done immediately SWMBO has decided that it is time for all the shopping & visiting trips I normally avoid.

Man has no rest this side of the grave.
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July 16, 2013 8:36am
All_on_Red

Looks like Zimmerman will be getting a big cheque from NBC
““Last night’s not-guilty verdict in the George Zimmerman trial will enable the neighborhood-watch volunteer to resume his case against NBC News for the mis-editing of his widely distributed call to police. Back in December, Zimmerman sued NBC Universal Media for defamation over the botched editing, which depicted him as a hardened racial profiler.”

“NBC News, in a March 27, 2012, broadcast of the “Today” show, abridged the tape of Zimmerman’s comments to a police dispatcher on the evening of Feb. 26, 2012:
Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.
The full tape went like this:
Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. Or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about. Dispatcher: OK, and this guy — is he black, white or Hispanic?
Zimmerman: He looks black.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2013/07/14/zimmerman-lawyer-to-move-asap-against-nbc-news/
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July 16, 2013 8:50am
Pete George

Good one nasska, pinched and circulated.

US spying on us.
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July 16, 2013 8:53am
fernglas

Why is it that everything that has a slight whiff of scandal about it gets christened with the suffix “….gate”? Watergate was nearly 40 years ago and most of the journalists who use the expression wouldn’t have been around then. My other pet hate; real estate agents describing apartments as “trendy pads” (70’s again). Where is the imagination?
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July 16, 2013 9:00am
jcuk

“What is it about, then? Somehow, one of our nation’s two great parties has become infected by an almost pathological meanspiritedness, a contempt for what CNBC’s Rick Santelli, in the famous rant that launched the Tea Party, called “losers.” If you’re an American, and you’re down on your luck, these people don’t want to help; they want to give you an extra kick. I don’t fully understand it, but it’s a terrible thing to behold ” Paul Krugman NYT

It seems the ‘right’ in NZ is following the same path with the new welfare policies.
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July 16, 2013 9:01am
jcuk

If John Key wants an organisation to spy on Kiwis the answer is very simple Merge the SIS with the other mob. One apparently has the right and the other the means. Why all the fuss or is it simply a media beat-up?
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July 16, 2013 9:03am
peterwn

Bouncer case – I knew about a self defence case where there was a five day re-trial (jury hung first time round). The second jury acquitted in half hour. The only way the prosecution could have won was by pulling the wool over the jury’s eyes. If the crown Prosecutor had properly identified the issues and considered them in light of the Appeal Court direction for summing up in self defence cases he would have recognised the turkey was just not going to fly. So there is obviously ‘fat’ that can be cut out of Crown Law.
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July 16, 2013 9:04am
jcuk

DTK … no it means he has respect for the woman …I have a beat up 19yo car and been separated these twenty two years but I still treat her like a lady she is.
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July 16, 2013 9:07am
Longknives

I see the All Blacks are ‘treating’ Major League Baseball fans in San Fran with their hallowed presence…

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/8921632/ABs-to-kick-NZ-into-the-major-league

This is fucking cringeworthy. When it comes to the All Blacks New Zealand really has it’s head stuck up its arse- Nobody in the stadium will know or care who they are..
The scale of American sport is something that Kiwis often fail to comprehend- with laughable claims like ‘The Rugby World Cup is the third biggest sports event in the World’ etc
The All Blacks are nothing to Americans. Not even a blip on the radar. As a kiwi who spends a bit of time in the States this is bloody embarrassing.
Let me guess- they will do an ‘impromptu’ haka as well?
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July 16, 2013 9:09am
Chuck Bird

@peterwn

The above case still proves that a person representing themselves is not always a fool as many lawyers falsely claim.
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July 16, 2013 9:11am
jcuk

A-O-R …. no wonder there is so much anger in the states … should be against the despatcher not Zimmerman.
The media and their sound bites URRRGH!
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July 16, 2013 9:13am
Ed Snack

Vis a vis the Zimmerman case: From TalkLeft

“The legacy of this case will be that the media never gets it right, and worse, that a group of lawyers, with the aid of a public relations team, who had a financial stake in the outcome of pending and anticipated civil litigation, were allowed to commandeer control of Florida’s criminal justice system, in pursuit of a divisive, personal agenda.

Their transformation of a tragic but spontaneous shooting into the crime of the century, and their relentless demonization of the person they deemed responsible, not for a tragic killing, but for “cold-blooded murder,” has called into question the political motives and ethics of the officials serving in the Executive branch of Florida’s government, ruined the career of other public officials, turned the lives of the Zimmerman family, who are as innocent as their grieving clients, into a nightmare, and along the way, set back any chance of a rational discussion of the very cause they were promoting, probably for years.

The problems of racial disparity and arbitrary enforcement of our criminal laws are real, systemic and need to be addressed. Criminal defense lawyers see it and fight to correct it every day. From charging decisions to plea offers to sentences, the system is not fair and everybody knows it.

But this case has never been representative of those problems. And perhaps most unfortunate of all, as a result of the false narrative created by the lawyers for grieving parents who tragically lost their son — a narrative perpetuated by a complicit and ratings-hungry media — any attempt at meaningful reform is likely to fall on deaf ears for years to come.”

The whole case, the attempt to transform a Hispanic 1/4 black, 1/2 Peruvian (spanish/indian mix) person who has both mentored black youngsters and been involved in pursuing the police over the beating of a homeless black man, somehow into a “white hispanic” racist has been nothing more than a naked piece of political racism. Stirring up the black community in the US in order to get as many votes as possible it should have been exposed for the nasty exercise in prejudice that it was , but of course with the majority of the MSM still humping Obama’s leg that wasn’t likely to happen.

Now we get our own Tom Scott leaping in, I guess someone should stalk him, then get Tom on his back on the ground and start smashing his head into the concrete and punching his face with no apparent intention of stopping; then offer Tom a way of stopping it before he is beaten to death for publishing such stupid cartoons; do you think he would take the option or simply wait to die ?
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July 16, 2013 9:14am
RF

Long knives. 9.09am. Oh no not that bloody stupid dance where they stick out their tongues and roll eyes. How pathetic. Pity they do not put their energies into keeping their kids alive. A dying race .. More ways than one.
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July 16, 2013 9:15am
dime

So chick magnet gerry says “no tolls on roads already paid for by the tax payer”

thumbs up from Dime

then ZB has a sound bite from some sniveling ahole who says “petrol tax isnt the way to go. cars are becoming more fuel efficient and the tax take will go down”. that remained unchallenged. he didnt want to get rid of petrol tax, just add more taxes on top.
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July 16, 2013 9:21am
dime

“When it comes to the All Blacks New Zealand really has it’s head stuck up its arse” – some pom who can fuck off if he doesnt like it 🙂
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July 16, 2013 9:23am
Longknives

Yep Dime- Can’t stand the All Blacks.
*And I am New Zealand born and bred, played rugby for twenty years, coached and wrote about it as well.
Do I need to list the reasons? Christ I could be here all day…
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July 16, 2013 9:28am
Manolo

The wowsers continue their scaremongering campaign: http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/8922658/Booze-taking-heavy-toxic-toll-study-shows

Get lost, you petty tyrants.
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July 16, 2013 9:30am
dime

Sure, list the reasons why you hate the all blacks.

try listing the rational ones first
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July 16, 2013 9:31am
david

Re Auckland fundraising for roads.

Nowhere in all this has there been mention of slicing some cost out of the extravagant Council bloated budget that gets spent on frivolous frippery like gay parades, Chinese lantern festivals, speed bump axle breakers on suburban streets, community board grants (here is some cash to splash around), Maori committees, Len’s spin team of 13, etc or of selling down some assets and bringing a commercial basis to operating things like Ports of Auckland.

The “consensus building” exercise has been a con and a further waste of what should necessarily be scarce council resources.
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July 16, 2013 9:32am
Longknives

And I’d take anything John Dixon says with a grain of salt…The guy is full of shit. Desperate to be famous one way or another-

“The reason Dixon fired his lawyer would come out in due course, he said, with hints that another YouTube video posting might be in the works.”

Perhaps he could be given a role in the next ‘Rollin’ with the Ridges’ reality TV show??
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July 16, 2013 9:33am
bhudson

@Chuck,

On the Dixon case, I saw his sacking of his lawyer reported last week I think it was. As I recall from reading that, it appeared that he sacked his lawyer right at the very end of the trial.

From that report it would appear to me that his lawyer done done a great job of introducing doubt in the mind of the jurors and Dixon effectively sacked him after he had the case won.

Despite his claims, I’m not at all sure the evidence actually points to Dixon winning the case himself.
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July 16, 2013 9:34am
Longknives

Dime- You aren’t going to go all ‘Bereal’ on me now are you?
Accuse me of ‘hating myself’, ‘hating my country’ etc just because I don’t support your favourite sports team?
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July 16, 2013 9:35am
dime

Googles share price is up to $922. Holy shit.

It was 700 at the start of the year. advice was it was moving to $1000. Dime didnt want a bar of it. opps!
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July 16, 2013 9:38am
dime

Longknives – just curious. did an all black screw your gf or something?

theres a difference between not liking something and going postal every week or so…

i agree the baseball thing is weak. not sure it was worth a rant that involved RWC ratings though.
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July 16, 2013 9:41am
bc

Good ‘ole Kiwiblog.

Only on Kiwiblog does a marketing campaign by Air New Zealand get turned into an anti-All Blanks rant (@9.09am) which then gets turned into an anti-Maori rant (@9.15am).
Yep in two posts it turned from Air New Zealand trying to get more American’s to fly to New Zealand to Maori killing their kids and becoming a dying race – yes only on Kiwiblog folks!!

I’ve thought up a new game – seven degrees of kiwiblog.

See how long it takes for any random story, hell it can even be something positive like a tourist marketing campaign, gets turned by the usual moaners, racists and bigots into an:
a) anti-Maori rant
b) anti-union rant
c) anti-liberals rant (that one is so redbaiter doesn’t feel left out)

We’ve had a good example today. And yesterday a positive education story where unions weren’t mentioned at all still managed to get turned into an anti-union rant in the first comment (and stayed that way).

So let’s all play seven degrees of kiwiblog and cheer ourselves up!
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July 16, 2013 9:41am
RightNow

bc, you’re almost at 1000 comments, I think you’ve earned your ‘kiwiblogger’ badge. Welcome to the club 🙂
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July 16, 2013 9:47am
RRM

Yawn.

Rugby’s the one with the pointy ball isn’t it?
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July 16, 2013 9:47am
dime

BC – thats funny 😛

RRM – its a game played by blokes who arent vegetarians 😀
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July 16, 2013 9:49am
MT_Tinman

Dime, I’m with Longknives (and Big Bruv) on this.

The Otara globetrotters (All Blacks they ain’t) are simply another franchise stealing players off real rugby (SXV, Provincial in this case) in order to play games around the world so they can make enough money to play games around the world so they can make enough money ……………..

In no way does this organisation represent NZ any more!
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July 16, 2013 9:50am
bc

Thanks RightNow!!

I tried so hard to do a nasty bigoted rant on the Sharknado post, but I’m afraid I didn’t sound very convincing.
I’ve got to give all the moaners and bigots credit, it’s harder than it looks.
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July 16, 2013 9:53am
dime

The Otara globetrotters??

Whats the current 15?

1 – Crockett/ Woodcock – white guys. one inbred, one farmer
2 – Hore – seal killing white guy from the naki
3 – franks – white guy from chch
4 – romano – white guy from chch
5 – whitelock – white guy from the naki i think
6 – maori from the BOP
7 – cane/richie – white dudes
8 – read – white dude from pukekohe?

so basically white guys with a half cast maori. i guess if you include kev you get a bloke whos from south auckland

9 – smith – from some shit hole
10 – carter – see above
11 – savea – wellington
12 – nonu – wellington
13 – smith – wellington
14 – smith – dunedin
15 – dagg – hawkes bay

so umm.. where does the otara thing come from?
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July 16, 2013 9:56am
alex Masterley

Chuck,

Don’t believe everything you read in the papers.
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July 16, 2013 9:58am
Chuck Bird

@bhudson

I cannot verify what you say. But I think my point is still valid.

There are times when a person representing themselves sometimes makes good economic sense. If a jury is not invoked it helps to have a good fair minded judge who is not strongly anti people representing themselves.
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July 16, 2013 10:01am
big bruv

I agree with Longkivies.

For all those who rush to defend the game of rugby (of which I love as much as the next Kiwi) the salient point is this. If you have to explain your game to the wider public then you are indeed a very minor sport.

Now, like Longknives I have no issue with Rugby being a very minor sport, I also have no issue with Kiwis being bloody good at the game. The issue (or issues) I have is that once you mix the minor game of Rugby with the embarrassingly insecure Kiwi mind set then you have a recipe for national embarrassment.

The problem I have with the game of rugby is that it we insist on telling so many lies about the game. When it comes to rugby then the following should never be forgotten…

1. Most of the world have no idea how the game is played or who plays it.
2. Most of the world have no idea who the IAG ALL Blacks are, nor have they ever heard of them.
3. If you have to tell people who the IAG All Blacks are then you have already lost the argument.
4. We are only the “best in the world” (highly debateable) because we are the only nation who takes the game seriously
5. The IAG All Blacks brings out the very worst in many Kiwis, the trait so often used by the millions of immature anti Aussie NZer’s is that they are arrogant when it comes to sport (they actually have every right to be that way) however nothing is more arrogant than a IAG All Black fan.
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July 16, 2013 10:03am
dime

bruv – still have your richie mccaw poster above your bed?
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July 16, 2013 10:06am
MT_Tinman

dime (6,720) Says:
July 16th, 2013 at 9:56 am
The Otara globetrotters??

so umm.. where does the otara thing come from?

My imagination. It’s you that sees colour instead of tenure.

Of course Otara is nothing like Harlem at the height of the Harlem Globe Trotters fame.
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July 16, 2013 10:09am
Longknives

BC-
I wasn’t ranting. I just find it a little cringeworthy that the Adi-Blacks (and seemingly a few of their drooling fanboys) seem to think that they are ‘international megastars’ and that their mere presence at the prematch entertainment a Major League game (an hour before the start of the match I note) is somehow going to convert millions of Americans from Baseball, NFL and Basketball…..

It ain’t gonna happen.

Remember when the self-professed ‘Comedian’ Ali Williams went on his US Sabbatical because he was going to reportedly “Use his profile to promote the game in America”? (*This was actually the only funny thing Wiliams ever said)
How did that work out? Have the Yanks ditched Baseball and NFL yet??
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July 16, 2013 10:10am
big bruv

Dime

There was a time when the IAG All Blacks represented the average Kiwi bloke. Most of us could imagine walking into a public bar and being in the company of an All Black, after all they were all like us, a cross section of society, men from all occupations and all walks of life.

The modern bunch are so far removed from reality that it is no wonder so many of us have lost all interest and respect for them. The other point (which does not get raised often) is that the modern IAG All Black is without doubt the thickest bunch of men to ever wear the IAG black jersey. The modern IAG All Black only knows rugby, as a rule most of them struggle putting more than two word together and most have no connection at all to their community.

There was a time when a club was fiercely proud of its All Black, at the end of the season the players club would have a collection to help the player offset some of the costs of touring if he was lucky enough to be selected on the very rare European tour. These days I would wager that most IAG All Blacks have no connection at all with “their club”.
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July 16, 2013 10:12am
Longknives

“The other point (which does not get raised often) is that the modern IAG All Black is without doubt the thickest bunch of men to ever wear the IAG black jersey.”

Heh! Good point. Compare interviews with the All Blacks from 20 years ago with the semi-literate dribbling answers you get from today’s mob- What the hell has happened? Most of these modern guys can barely string a sentence together…
And in the old days you would never see an All Black in the Court news (they took a bit of pride in themselves). Now it seems to happen every other week.
And don’t get me started on ‘Gangsta’ hand signals in team photos..
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July 16, 2013 10:19am
dime

“There was a time when the IAG All Blacks represented the average Kiwi bloke. Most of us could imagine walking into a public bar and being in the company of an All Black, after all they were all like us, a cross section of society, men from all occupations and all walks of life.”

The average bloke? out of shape?

Have you met many all blacks lately? most are good buggas. You dont think you could sink piss with the franks brothers? or woody? or hore?

look at dagg & jane. getting smashed during the world cup. stumbling around being funny bastards. Dime can relate to that.

“The modern bunch are so far removed from reality that it is no wonder so many of us have lost all interest and respect for them.”

how so? because they have money?

“The other point (which does not get raised often) is that the modern IAG All Black is without doubt the thickest bunch of men to ever wear the IAG black jersey. The modern IAG All Black only knows rugby, as a rule most of them struggle putting more than two word together and most have no connection at all to their community.”

I disagree.

Connection to the community? you know most of these guys are in their 20’s. they arent greenpeace activists.

“There was a time when a club was fiercely proud of its All Black, at the end of the season the players club would have a collection to help the player offset some of the costs of touring if he was lucky enough to be selected on the very rare European tour. These days I would wager that most IAG All Blacks have no connection at all with “their club”.”

umm so?

Isnt Dan Carter going to play only for his club next year? And hes coping a ton of shit for it?

Haters gotta hate.
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July 16, 2013 10:20am
Longknives

Also- In the good old days All Blacks didn’t wear Mascara and pretty coloured ribbons in their hair…
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July 16, 2013 10:27am
big bruv

Dime

“look at dagg & jane. getting smashed during the world cup”

Those two individuals prove my point about the IAG Adidas All Blacks being as thick as pig shit.

“You dont think you could sink piss with the franks brothers? or woody? or hore?”

You miss my point entirely, for a start they would not be in the public bar, and let’s be honest, what they fuck apart from rugby would they want to talk about?

“how so? because they have money? ”

No, plenty of AIG Addidas ALL Blacks of the past had money, this lot know nothing other than rugby, they have no idea what the real people deal with on a daily basis.
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July 16, 2013 10:33am
Colville

Yeah Longknives…the USA only has 450,000 rugby players. But dont let the truth get in the way of your ranting.
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July 16, 2013 10:40am
bc

I dunno longknives. Based on the link you provided it looks to me that Air New Zealand is setting this up and that the All Blacks are meeting a contractual obligation to their sponsor.
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July 16, 2013 10:41am
Colville

“There was a time when a club was fiercely proud of its All Black, at the end of the season the players club would have a collection to help the player offset some of the costs of touring if he was lucky enough to be selected on the very rare European tour. These days I would wager that most IAG All Blacks have no connection at all with “their club”.”

Remind again me who Richie McCaw ran out for on the weekend?

‘tard.
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July 16, 2013 10:44am
Pete George

One of the main reasons for allowing the GCSB to spy for the SIS and Police is the cost of duplicating spy technology and expertise.

Together GCSB & SIS spending in 2003 nearly $45m, up to almost $97m in 2012 – total numbers of spies up from 412 to 534

But it’s been claimed that there’s been no attempt to determine the costs of the spying the Government wants to legalise.

Call for costings on SIS surveillance

The Government has no idea what it would cost to have the SIS eavesdrop on New Zealanders and intercept their emails, despite saying cost is the reason for getting the GCSB to do it.

A researcher for the think-tank, the Sustainabilty Council, says the Intelligence and Security Committee should get the costing done before approving legislation giving the country’s electronic spy agency greater powers.

Simon Terry says the alternative is for the domestic spy agency, the SIS, to be given the capability to carry out that surveillance but no analysis has been done of the cost.

Gordon Campbell adds:

The stronger the case for changing the role of the GCSB to include domestic spying, the more misgivings one has to have about the systemic failure of planning and budgeting within the SIS.

As things stand, Prime Minister John Key is proceeding with needless haste to create a system of mass surveillance that has had no proper assessment of its related financial costs, let alone the costs to personal freedoms.

As for the proper oversight mechanisms …these seem to comprise the political minimum needed to get the legislative package across the line, with little consideration of what an adequate balance really should exist between national security and civil rights.

More money and more spies
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July 16, 2013 10:45am
Colville

PG, dont you try and derail this thread onto politics! how dare you!
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July 16, 2013 10:46am
big bruv

“Yeah Longknives…the USA only has 450,000 rugby players.”

Lol…straws and clutching at…
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July 16, 2013 10:48am
big bruv

“Remind again me who Richie McCaw ran out for on the weekend?”

Yes, and I bet he had to introduce himself to the team at training during the week.

But thanks anyway Colville, you illustrate my point perfectly.
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July 16, 2013 10:50am
dime

bruv – have you actually met any all blacks lately?

as you know Dime does come into contact with rugby people through business connections. anyone i have met has been a good bloke. down to earth. I think they are sealed off from us by the “staff”.

i dont like all of them eg i think nonu is a cancer BUT a friend of mine hung out with him at a bar last year. said he was a really good guy. it was the bar owned by the braids dad.

i also ask people who deal with AB’s what they are like. the word im hearing is “great guys.” “nicer than they used to be” etc

as for longknives – oh no! young guys doing signs with their hands after they score a try! its just not on!

I get you guys dont like the all blacks. good for you. but some of your reasoning is just crap.
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July 16, 2013 10:53am
dime

“You miss my point entirely, for a start they would not be in the public bar, and let’s be honest, what they fuck apart from rugby would they want to talk about?”

i always see all blacks when im in chch. they seem to love the lonestar

maybe they dont go out because of the average kiwi bloke – arrogant, know it all, hateful etc ya know, the sort jesse ryder ran into.

and when they do go out, if something happens (even if its not their fault) you people are the first ones to ask “why was he out drinking?” etc etc etc
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July 16, 2013 10:56am
big bruv

Dime

“bruv – have you actually met any all blacks lately? ”

No, and I can think of no reason at all why I would want to do so.

“i always see all blacks when im in chch. they seem to love the lonestar”

Lol…a real “bar of the people”
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July 16, 2013 11:00am
dime

“i always see all blacks when im in chch. they seem to love the lonestar”

Lol…a real “bar of the people”

you consider the lonestar high end? lol

seems full of “average new zealanders” to me.
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July 16, 2013 11:10am
MT_Tinman

Dime, I agree most of the current lot (in fact damned near every top rugby player I’ve met) are good blokes but what has that to do with the argument?

In the days of the real All Blacks the best players were selected at years end (or season’s start if an incoming tour based on the previous year’s form) to represent NZ rugby in genuine tests.

The current lot are selected on a lifetime basis (most of the time), often without playing rugby within NZ to play a series of meaningless friendlies, more often than not in foreign climes.

They play one tournament (that counts) once every four years.

Like the Harlem Globe Trotters before them the current lot (the Otara globetrotters) exist to entertain, anywhere that can earn them money.
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July 16, 2013 11:10am
hj

WASHINGTON — The nation’s entire energy system is vulnerable to increasingly severe and costly weather events driven by climate change, according to a report from the Department of Energy to be published on Thursday.
The blackouts and other energy disruptions of Hurricane Sandy were just a foretaste, the report says. Every corner of the country’s energy infrastructure — oil wells, hydroelectric dams, nuclear power plants — will be stressed in coming years by more intense storms, rising seas, higher temperatures and more frequent droughts.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/11/us/climate-change-will-cause-more-energy-breakdowns-us-warns.html?ref=us&_r=1&

and us.
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July 16, 2013 11:11am
RF

dime. 10.20am. You have some strange drinking mates if you include the seal shooter & cowardly king hitter hore from the land of the sheep shaggers. That other wanker who jumped on the BMW after the World Cup crap put me right off the precious little tin gods.
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July 16, 2013 11:11am
dime

“Dime, I agree most of the current lot (in fact damned near every top rugby player I’ve met) are good blokes but what has that to do with the argument?”

Was responding to bruv..

RF – i dont even know who the cowardly king hitter is? colin meads?
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July 16, 2013 11:28am
Fletch

Asiana Airlines is suing a TV station KTVU-TV in San Francisco after a TV broadcast about the crash used fake humourous names for the crew of the airline.

Asiana Airlines announced Monday that it was going to sue a San Francisco TV station that it said damaged the airline’s reputation by using bogus and racially offensive names for four pilots on a plane that crashed earlier this month in San Francisco.

An anchor for KTVU-TV read the names on the air Friday and then apologized after a break. The report was accompanied by a graphic with the phony names listed alongside a photo of the burned-out plane that had crashed at San Francisco International Airport on July 6, killing three and injuring dozens.

While reporting on the crash during their noon newscast on July 12th, Bay Area Fox affiliate KTVU co-anchor Tori Campbell reported that the names of the pilots on board were “Sum Ting Wong,” “Wi Tu Lo,” “Ho Lee Fuk” and “Bang Ding Ow.” Within three days, videos of the broadcast had been reuploaded to YouTube thousands of times[8], with the most-viewed version accruing nearly 7.2 million views.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57593696/asiana-airlines-confirms-it-will-sue-ktvu-tv-over-broadcast-of-racist-fake-pilot-names/

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/fake-asiana-pilot-names
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July 16, 2013 11:38am
Longknives

“as for longknives – oh no! young guys doing signs with their hands ”

Yeah- Nothing screams ‘Pride in the All Black jersey’ quite like a guy doing an American ‘Gangsta’ hand-signal in the team photo…
George Nepia, Bob Scott and co would be so proud…
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July 16, 2013 11:48am
dime

longknives – you mean guys born in the early 1900’s wouldnt approve of todays youngans? go figure.
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July 16, 2013 11:52am
wikiriwhis business

Looks like WINZ and National bought themselves a face to off set the crap they are getting of benefit changes. I can not see how anyone can truthfully say that being forced to look for work instead of studying is good. There are NO positives in this legislation. Being forced to pay for day care you can not afford, told to apply for jobs you are not fit or qualified to do (yes this is happening) at a time when there are no jobs.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/8922072/Benefit-reform-looks-good-says-single-mum?cid=edm%3Astuff%3Adailyheadlines
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July 16, 2013 12:09pm
Lance

@hj
The USA’s entire power grid has been obscenely under maintained for decades and it’s time to pay the piper as it were. Bad weather or not.
The excuse of blaming Canada is wearing thin too even with the blindly patriotic.
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July 16, 2013 12:15pm
dime

“at a time when there are no jobs.”.

no jobs. none. not one stinking job out there.
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July 16, 2013 12:15pm
RF

dime. 11.28am. Andrew Hore. Killer of seals, swinging arm thug. I could go on. When he fronted for his thuggery he had the appearance of an innocent choirboy after a shave and a bath and not the usual hairy faced yeti look obtained from living in a gorse bush.

Is this the type we want to advertise NZ. I think not.
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July 16, 2013 12:58pm
MT_Tinman

Andrew Hore, pest controller.

Even bad guys get something right.
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July 16, 2013 1:29pm
big bruv

wiki

“at a time when there are no jobs.”

That is bullshit. For the last two weeks my company has advertised an unskilled job in central Auckland that pays $15.50 an hour. Uniform supplied and the work is not exactly arduous. There is overtime on offer and anybody who showed initiative could gain promotion within the company where many of our employees earn in excess of $100k a year.

Want to have agues at how many replies we got for that job?

That’s right…..one, one single applicant. Funnily enough he is from overseas and while his English is not great he is a bloody hard worker.
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July 16, 2013 1:47pm
MT_Tinman

Big Bruv, I’ve been looking for a driver for over 12 months.

I know qualifications are necessary but I’m told that WINZ will help put any one of their clients who has held a license for two years through those qualifications.

As of now I’ve had zero applicants
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July 16, 2013 2:16pm
b1gdaddynz

We can never get anyone that will take a pre-employment drug test much less pass one; so we have two positions we can’t fill right now!
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July 16, 2013 2:27pm
Manolo

Meanwhile, we waste money on this lot: http://www.familiescommission.org.nz/about-the-commission/commissioners
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July 16, 2013 2:33pm
Manolo

Would you put your life in her hands? http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/07/15/jeantel_the_jury_they_old_thats_old_school_people_we_in_a_new_school_our_generation.html
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July 16, 2013 2:47pm
Left Right and Centre

MT_Tinman 2:16 pm I’m unemployed class 2-5 with forklift endorsement and experience. There you go. But I’m in Wellington.

And it’s ‘licence’ with a ‘c’, not as ‘s’.
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July 16, 2013 4:22pm
Left Right and Centre

b1gdaddynz 2:27 pm I’ve taken a few of those. Clean living so clean tests.
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July 16, 2013 4:23pm
Chuck Bird

@alex Masterley

“Don’t believe everything you read in the papers.”

I do not necessarily. All as I know is that I have represented myself a couple of times in the Family Court with reasonable success. I also know others who have.

Not all lawyers strongly believe a person cannot ever represent themselves adequately. I think it is particularly arrogant for lawyer to hold this view However, even some of these lawyers when they become judges do their best to give a self-represented litigant a fair go.
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July 16, 2013 4:24pm
Left Right and Centre

On Radiolive was a woman Jas McPhee. Mother of five.

Reckons she can shop for a family of six. One month. $200.

Really?

I want to see what $1.09 per human per day buys eh?

Let’s put it this way… whatever you get… is going to involve some form of pain.

I saw a picture of Jas on the net. Maybe she saves cash by dumpster diving out the back of KFC or something? Certainly doesn’t look like she’s a starving skeleton. And ‘Jas’… must be short for Jasmin/e. Horrible stripper names lowclass kiwis choose.

$200 for a family of six for a month… that’s bullshit. Bullshit bullshit bullshit. If you ate nothing but potatoes and water maybe.
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July 16, 2013 4:30pm
Left Right and Centre

And don’t have five fucking children you stupid bitch and then struggle to look after them. What a fuckin retard.

$200? What.. with all the shit like cleaning products, toiletries, the whole lot? Family of six $2 400 per year on food/ groceries? Bollocks. I want to see it. I want to see everything they eat and drink.
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July 16, 2013 4:36pm
big bruv

left right and centre.

Jas McPhee has her own website. She proves that it can be done.
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July 16, 2013 4:54pm
liarbors a joke

Hows this arsehole…

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/8924271/Rapist-kept-in-cruel-degrading-conditions

Ya lucky youre still breathing you prick.
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July 16, 2013 5:06pm
big bruv

left right and centre

“I’m unemployed class 2-5 with forklift endorsement and experience. There you go. But I’m in Wellington.”

Nothing going at McDonalds or KFC?

It might not be your dream job but it is a job.
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July 16, 2013 5:13pm
cha

First there was this.

http://youtu.be/SVoI3hB4IiM
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July 16, 2013 5:28pm
cha

And then this.

http://youtu.be/PlXsxi20ymc
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July 16, 2013 5:29pm
Kea

Peak Oil News LOL 🙂

Who can remember the “consensus science” on this one ? I seem to recall that by 2013 society would have collapsed and there would be global chaos. Looks like it is going the same way as Ozone Holes, Ice Ages, and now AGW.

US oil output surged during the first week of July to the highest level in more than 21 years

In just the last two years, oil production in “Saudi America” has increased by almost 1.9 million bpd (and by 34.0%), from 5.52 million bpd in July 2011 to 7.40 million bpd last week, and has completely reversed several decades of declining US oil output (see chart).

Welcome to America’s shale energy revolution, which continues to be one of the strongest reasons to be optimistic about the US economy.
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July 16, 2013 6:17pm
Kea

I briefly saw some footage of the protests about Zimmerman not letting a black (well a little darker than Zimmerman, who is exactly as “white” as Obama) smash his brains out on the pavement.

One of the protest signs said “Capitalism is Racist” !

Is is time to re-consider giving African Americans the vote ?
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July 16, 2013 6:31pm
nasska

Ozone Holes, Ice Ages, AGW, not to mention the doom & gloom about peak oil. What will become of the prophets of doom? How will Ghaia be appeased? Think of the polar bears!

It is a tough life trying to usher in world government using scare tactics. 🙂
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July 16, 2013 6:36pm
Kea

Think of the polar bears!

Ten good reasons not to worry about polar bears

Polar bears are a conservation success story. Their numbers have rebounded remarkably since 1973 and we can say for sure that there are more polar bears now than there were 40 years ago.

http://polarbearscience.com/2013/02/26/ten-good-reasons-not-to-worry-about-polar-bears/
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July 16, 2013 6:44pm
joana

We never hear about all the black on white attacks in the US.
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July 16, 2013 6:46pm
Kea

jonana, we never would have never heard about Zimmerman either had the attack on him succeeded. If the media reported on all the “white” people killed by blacks it would be racist. It would also saturate the news. Zimmerman had one “white” parent. Just like Obama. Maybe if Obama had a son he would look like Zimmerman ?

The increase in homicide rates caused by blacks alone cost this putative Christian nation an extra 24,209 American lives in 1991 alone, and officially caused an EXTRA 800,000 murders just in the 20th Century–a loss of life three times greater than all American WWII battle deaths, 200 times greater than the loss attributable to all forms of “terrorism” by all 1.2 billion Muslims throughout the world, and 400 TIMES greater than battle deaths in Iraq

33 million blacks IN AMERICA caused 800,000 EXTRA murders = 24,242 American lives per million blacks

1,200 million Muslims 10,000 miles away caused 4,000 American deaths = 3.33 American lives per million Muslims

American blacks are 7,280 TIMES more deadly to American lives than all 1.2 billion Muslims worldwide, combined

http://www.fathersmanifesto.net/genocide.htm
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July 16, 2013 6:51pm
nasska

The climate nutters must be absolutely gutted that the polar bears refused to go extinct. The wankers are trying to save nature & that is all the cooperation they get.

The sheer ingratitude! 🙂
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July 16, 2013 6:54pm
Kea

nasska, you have to feel for them. Wild life flourishing (in spite of the cold) , weather normal, climate not warming, oil not running out, Ozone holes normal… there is really very little for them to live for. 🙂
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July 16, 2013 7:04pm
nasska

They may even have to change the signs Kea. 🙂

Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/o8nxvht1lalp797/camel_crossing.jpg
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July 16, 2013 7:10pm
Viking2

Internet Fascism and the Surveillance State

Whatever you think about Kim DotCom, spied on by the GCSB, he was never considered a terrorist. Whatever you think about American journalists, lawyers and law firms, banking firms, corporates, NGOs, judges and politicians–all spied on by the NSA—they’ve never been considered terrorists either. Yet, asks our guest poster Ben O’Neill, wasn’t the rationale for the huge expansion of agencies like this that they needed to be so big to fight terrorism ? So why are they invading privacy on a scale dwarfing the crimes that launched the Leveson Inquiry.

What is the purpose of telecommunication and internet surveillance?

Ostensibly, the goal of the NSA surveillance is to prevent terrorist acts that would harm or kill people in the United States [and ditto for eth GCSB]. But in reality, it seems the primary goal is to enable greater control of that population (and others) by the US government.

When questioned about this issue, NSA whistleblower Thomas Drake was unequivocal about the goal of the NSA: “to own the internet and find out what everybody is doing.”[4]

http://pc.blogspot.co.nz/2013/07/internet-fascism-and-surveillancestate.html
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July 16, 2013 7:10pm
nasska

NSA…… the only part of the government that actually listens.
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July 16, 2013 7:17pm
Kea

nasska, how do you make it so people can see what is in your dropbox ?

I got one after seeing all your pictures, but have never got around to doing anything with it.
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July 16, 2013 7:19pm
nasska

Right click on the thumbnail in dropbox, click “share dropbox link”. In vista this produces a clickable balloon which then loads up the image as a tab….. C & P the address onto the comment.

The only way I’ve found to load images onto dropbox is to ‘click & drag’.
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