General Debate 12 July 2013

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Kea

Griff, I see you do not want to talk about climate funding, so lets move on.

We are emerging from an Ice Age cycle and are in a warmer Interglacial period. This ice age/warming cycle has gone on for millions of years. We are always either coming out of an ice age, or heading for one.

1. How do you suggest the Ice Age ended ?

2. Do you think if may have gotten warmer as part of a natural cycle, or that that the ice melted with no drop in temperature ?
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July 12, 2013 2:40pm
dime

I saw demerits.. then i saw you had reached 100 on the demerit page.. then i got sad 🙁 then i realised that i dont hate all arabs.. just most 😀
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July 12, 2013 2:41pm
Griff

Oh look its another conservative god whacker.
Have you come to rescue reddy kowtow?

By the way that piece is pointing out that the sun activity has declined since the seventy’s and has been very low for the last twenty years.
Strangely the planet has continued to heat despite this low activity. Another ice age? Or is it just another idiotic climate change denial post?
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July 12, 2013 2:42pm
Kea

dime, where did I get demerits ?
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July 12, 2013 2:45pm
Kea

If you count up the numbers of countries under regular attack by the black African warlord, Obama, you may consider it has already started. Of course, now a niggers got the trigger, we hear very little about it.

[DPF: 20 demerits]

LOL 🙂

David gave me demerits for not loving the black Jesus enough as he slaughters my ancestors in their tens of thousands. Clearly us sand niggers do not get the same consideration as African ones on KB 🙂
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July 12, 2013 2:48pm
dime

Kea – i thought the demerits were harsh. i dont think you were using the N WORD in a shocking context…

but it is DPF’s gig

Dime has 50 demerits 🙁 I think it was for wishing death on some moonbat. A small part of Dime died that day 🙁
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July 12, 2013 2:51pm
RRM

Weaklings 😎

RRM had a week’s holiday once. Looking back some of my old comments weren’t too flash, I probably deserved it…
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July 12, 2013 2:58pm
Kea

dime, Cheer up 🙂 All the interesting people get demerits. There are no interesting demerit virgins.

Maybe I can mend things with David Farrar by sending him a bag of Dates, and he can send me one of his Obama campaign posters ? “Change we can believe in” 🙂
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July 12, 2013 2:59pm
Griff

Griff has fifty for telling beryl to “get laid”
probably has deserved more.
No definitely has
DPF lets us look after shit most times.
Wise and tolerant moderation.
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July 12, 2013 3:02pm
Kea

Griff, I get told to “Get f*%$ed” all the time and no one gets any demerits !

But yeah, Davids moderation is very good. Also we must remember that others [lefties] will quote things on his blog out of context to smear him. Like my comment when he banned me. It was in the context of an extended debate over a number of weeks. But taken in isolation, and out of context, it looks different.
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July 12, 2013 3:07pm
publicwatchdog

Want to make a ‘submission’ on the NZ International Convention Centre ( aka SHONKY Sky City Deal) Bill?

‘Drop dead’ date for ‘submissions’ is Thursday 22 August 2013.

It’s gone to the Commerce Select Committee.

http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/PB/SC/MakeSub/2/e/e/50SCCO_SCF_00DBHOH_BILL12309_1-New-Zealand-International-Convention.htm

Cheers!

Penny Bright
‘Anti-corruption / anti-privatisation’ campaigner

2013 Auckland Mayoral candidate
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July 12, 2013 3:11pm
Griff

Traffic ticket…..Odds are you get away with it for so long then a reminder .

And keas uptight about .

Quote mining. 😆

x 2 standard
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July 12, 2013 3:17pm
Kea

Griff, if you can take your mind off me for a moment, and give your opinion on how Ice Ages end… with no warming ?
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July 12, 2013 3:30pm
Pete George

This was inevitable

Kiwis hit with cost of living triple whammy
David Shearer | Friday, July 12, 2013 – 14:07

“Just in time for the school holidays, petrol prices went up four cents a litre to $2.26.9 for 91-octane. That’s on top of the July 1 three cent increase courtesy of the Government hiking up petrol tax

http://www.labour.org.nz/news/kiwis-hit-with-cost-of-living-triple-whammy

Do they want to force the exchange rate back up again? Then they could start anothr manufacturing crisis campaign again.
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July 12, 2013 3:33pm
Nookin

“Dime has 50 demerits 🙁 I think it was for wishing death on some moonbat. A small part of Dime died that day ”

She is back, Dime (see 3.11 p.m.) so maybe you can say it in a more respectful and less demeritorious manner?

Penny

Why do you hate people getting jobs?

Why do you hate development?

Why must the activities of the entire nation be regulated by the performance standards of the lowest denominator?

Do you think it is good to pitch at mediocrity?

If gambling is bad, why aren’t you banging away outside every pub, club and RSA in Auckland and its environs? We know why Shearer and the labour party are not doing that — their electorate is in those institutions.

Don’t your double standards make you feel a little corrupt?
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July 12, 2013 3:42pm
Fletch

The Kremlin reverting back to using old fashioned typewriters in order to preserve privacy?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/10173645/Kremlin-returns-to-typewriters-to-avoid-computer-leaks.html
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July 12, 2013 3:45pm
alex Masterley

Penny,
In answer to your question, no.
In fact I might even buy some sky city shares as the convention centre will only add to its value.
Oh and by the way, have you paid your rates yet, or your water bills.
As a mayoral candidate you must be above reproach so if they are not paid perhaps you should do so.
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July 12, 2013 3:51pm
nickb

Rubbish. I suggest the following statement is more accurate:

Evidence that he did or did not mislead parliament withheld by Dunne, therefore he is not proven guilty.

Exactly!!!

PG, you should go back to primary school if you think that clears Peter Dunne. Are you really that desperate? That comment was a new low, even for your usual Peter Dunne leg-humping.
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July 12, 2013 3:54pm
Griff

Kea the climate has changed in the past
In the past other factors have caused climate change.volcanoes changes in orbit even changes in ecology can effect climate.
By studying these past changes scientists find out how the climate will react to the present alteration in the earths energy balance due to a 40% change in the atmospheric co2.

Pointing out that the solar minimum produced a cooler temperature is not news to climate scientists The scary thing is despite the present decline in solar activity the temperatures have still kept rising.
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/news/ncdc-releases-may-2013-global-climate-report

According to NOAA scientists, the globally averaged temperature for May 2013 tied with 1998 and 2005 as the third warmest May since record keeping began in 1880. It also marked the 37th consecutive May and 339th consecutive month (more than 28 years) with a global temperature above the 20th century average. The last below-average May temperature was May 1976 and the last below-average temperature for any month was February 1985.

This is is well as the southern osculation staying in an unusually long positive or neutral phase.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/el-nino-southern-oscillation.htm
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July 12, 2013 3:57pm
liarbors a joke

“Just in time for the school holidays, petrol prices went up four cents a litre to $2.26.9 for 91-octane. That’s on top of the July 1 three cent increase courtesy of the Government hiking up petrol tax”

You aint seen pain in the pocket yet. Wait till interest rates rise again , floating to 8% , watch the property market drop…all just around the corner. Punters mortgaged to the max and beyond ” cos they thought they had to be in “..the bigger fool effect.

Seen it all before….
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July 12, 2013 3:58pm
Kea

Fossil fuels save the world

“We are probably entering a new ice age right now,” says Swedish professor

“However, we’re not noticing it due to the effects of carbon dioxide.”

“We are probably entering a new ice age right now,” Lars Franzen, a professor of physical geography at the university, was cited as saying in an online statement today. “However, we’re not noticing it due to the effects of carbon dioxide.”

Human emissions of fossil carbon into the atmosphere and the resulting increase in temperatures may be holding off the next ice age, according to research from Sweden’s University of Gothenburg.

“It’s certainly possible that mankind’s various activities contributed towards extending our ice age interval by keeping carbon dioxide levels high enough,” Franzen said. “Without the human impact, the inevitable progression toward an ice age would have continued.”

http://iceagenow.info/2012/11/%E2%80%9Cwe-entering-ice-age-now%E2%80%9D-swedish-professor/
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July 12, 2013 4:07pm
thedavincimode

Have you considered that maybe you are not temperamentally suited ~~to the rigors of blogging~~

Fixed.
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July 12, 2013 4:19pm
RightNow

“The scary thing is despite the present decline in solar activity the temperatures have still kept rising.”

And to prove it I’ll cite a report saying May 2013 wasn’t higher than in 1998 and 2005, and is only the third warmest May since 1880.
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July 12, 2013 4:22pm
Kea

You aint seen pain in the pocket yet. Wait till interest rates rise again , floating to 8% , watch the property market drop…all just around the corner.

When the price of something goes up we consider it a sign of the economy getting worse, unless it is the single most expensive thing most of us buy. Our homes. When our homes doubled in price over a few years it was seen as a good thing. High or increasing house prices are seen as a good economic indicator. This is utter madness.

People now have to borrow twice as much and struggle for years to pay it back. It is unproductive debt and has destroyed the global economy, yet people persist in thinking high house prices are a good thing. They are not. They are a disaster. The whole housing bubble was paid for by money that did not exist. The reason for the increase in price was not the value of homes increasing, but the availability of cheap money [debt]. When the bubble of bullshit burst, we found the banks had no money and had to be bailed out or supported by the Government. In other words, the same tax payers with the outrageous mortgages. So where was the money from the housing “boom”… no where. It never existed.

Houses are worth nothing like what we pay for them. If you want to know the true value of something, then remove credit [debt] and see what it sells for.
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July 12, 2013 4:22pm
RightNow

Have you considered that maybe you are ~~not tempera~~ mental ~~ly suited to the rigors of blogging~~

Now it’s fixed.
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July 12, 2013 4:24pm
thedavincimode

We will not take your tyranny for much longer

Russell Guava channels Che Guevara.

I expect that the first strategic target of La Revolucion will be the Tauranga harbour bridge. The tolls will give him access to cashflow to fund the guns.
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July 12, 2013 4:26pm
flipper

Viking2 (9,697) Says:

July 12th, 2013 at 1:37 pm
bhudson (3,941) Says:
July 12th, 2013 at 11:45 am

By the way flipper, happy for you to choose to identify yourself at the next party conference. I’m more than happy to tell you you’re a complete arse to your face.
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Well that’s nice. Just the sort of shit one comes to expect from some members of the National Party.
Hudson you belong with the rest of the shit heads and unionists in the Labour Party.

Certainly not a member of any open minded group of people.

Vote: Thumb up 3 Thumb down 0
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V2…. you are absolutely correct.

Moreover before Nelson next month Collins et al will be embroiled in an unwanted JR, which they will inevitably lose. One hears the recent disclosure of Collins 34 points of instruction to Fisher came as a nasty surprise to her colleagues. The JR is certainly unwanted by J. Key and most members of the NP National Board. There is a feeling among some, including also Cabinet Ministers and senior B/Benchers, that they have been sold a pup by Collins, who has formed her position based upon personal bias, and bad advice, from a variety of sources. Feedback from other Commonwealth nations and the ICofJ has been universally negative.

Somehow I do not think Hudson’s views will draw much water in Nelson. But since National is a broad church party, fringe elements as represented by Hudson will be tolerated and ignored. 🙂
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July 12, 2013 4:35pm
Kea

Griff is right. There is a link between increasing temperature and CO2. The warmer it gets, the more CO2 nature releases. The decay of organic matter increases with warming temperatures, as an example. Studies have shown that the relationship is the reverse of what the alarmists claim. CO2 increases as a result of warming, not as a cause.

The biggest emitter of CO2 is nature, by a massive margin. All organic things break down and release CO2 back into the atmosphere from where it came. The CO2 emissions of fossil fuels are no different. Oil does not release “bad” CO2, it releases identical CO2 to an organic lettuce decaying in the belly of a communist dope smoking hippy.

Regardless of who is right in this debate, it makes no difference either way if the population continues to increase at the current rate. The single worse thing you can do to the environment is have a kid. No amount of hippy living, hemp shopping bags or Prius driving will even come close to remedying the damage of adding another person to the world. This self evident reality is ignored by the greenies, because telling people they should not have babies will not bring in the dollars and votes. They do not care about the environment, they want power and they want socialism, so they will not deal with the elephant in the room.
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July 12, 2013 4:36pm
liarbors a joke

Lock in before its too late..

http://goo.gl/PeFBN
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July 12, 2013 4:36pm
nasska

….”Russell Guava channels Che Guevara.”…..

I can’t wait for the T shirt. 🙂
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July 12, 2013 4:38pm
thedavincimode

Actually nasska, I’ve done better than that. I’ve managed to locate details of the uniform to be adopted by Generalissimo Guava’s Unpopular Revolutionary Front (GGURF)

Russell’s uniform
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July 12, 2013 4:48pm
Griff

Did not quite catch the full effect of the six inch lipstick red stilettos tdvm
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July 12, 2013 4:51pm
thedavincimode

You would in the dark Griff; especially if you were a Korean squid fisherman.
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July 12, 2013 4:53pm
nasska

Great concept Davinci….I’ve always said that a cross dresser in uniform adds dignity to a cause.

Especially that of conservatism. 🙂
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July 12, 2013 5:00pm
dime

Dime didnt wish death on Penny :O

it was some nutjob kiwi activist in palestine..
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July 12, 2013 5:01pm
Fletch

Amerca’s Got Talent. Original song by an ex-marine, Coal Keeps The Lights On

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uALyCLBnv20
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July 12, 2013 5:04pm
OneTrack

publicwatchdog – 3:11 – Do you want to make a submission.

Yes I do thanks. I wish to submit that I am extremely supportive of the deal and am grateful that we have a pragmatic government and Prime Minister who is willing to make win-win deals which have benefits for Aucklnad, the country as a whole and for Sky City. I am also very happy that my rates and taxes won’t be plundered as they would have been if a socialist/communist government ( like the Greens, Labour and the other hangers on ) was to embark on a project to build a convention center for the nation as a whole. If they had it would have taken three times as long, cost three times as much to build and ten times as much to administer, and, probably, nobody would ever use it (only “approved” conventions would be acceptable of course – like hemp-weavers and mung-bean soup manufacturers.).
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July 12, 2013 5:16pm
Nookin

My apologies, Dime. I get confused sometimes. I thought someone had and knew it wasn’t Johnboy because he was besotted.
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July 12, 2013 5:21pm
calendar girl

P.G @ 9:26 – “Dunne has not refused to reveal “certain key facts”. There is nothing that indicates there are any facts, let alone key facts, in emails he has refused to hand over.”

To most people, that contention is simply not believable. You suggest that there are dozens of emails to and from a Minister that are bereft of any facts? Dozens of emails that the Minister has refused categorically to reveal to the Prime Minister at whose “pleasure” he served?

Because Peter Dunne is not being tried on criminal charges, whatever he resigned for does not require “proof beyond reasonable doubt”. Rather, the matter is in the realm of politics where perceptions invariably play a significant role. The perceptions in this case are at least persuasive in the minds of most outsiders. But have you yourself had open access to the undisclosed emails in question, thereby giving you privileged information for your ongoing campaign to exhonerate Mr Dunne? If not, you are expecting a very high level of indulgence and blind trust on the part of those who express views different from those that you espouse. Good luck with that.
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July 12, 2013 5:30pm
Pete George

No cg, I haven’t seen any emails, that would be a breach of confidentiality. But Dunne has given me a detailed explanation in person (with his wife present) that stacks up with all the facts as I know them.

And I accept his word, which I will do unless he is proven wrong. I think that’s the decent thing to do. If you or anyone can give me proof he is wrong then i will reassess, but I will take his word and the known facts over speculation of anonymous people, some of whom don’t like him anyway and frequently smear him.
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July 12, 2013 5:59pm
RF

Todays Whale Oils blog on David Bain being the unluckiest person is pure gold.

Hush my mouth for even questioning the knowledge of that “publicity shy individual” who is currently telling the Police how to read fingerprints. Such talent going to waste.

I feel very humble and may yet take holy orders to cleanse myself of my impure thoughts
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July 12, 2013 6:00pm
Manolo

Revelations about the megalomaniac Rudd:
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/downer_rudd_sold_our_national_interest_to_indonesia_and_the_media_clapped/
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July 12, 2013 6:01pm
liarbors a joke

What bullshit. Punter jailed 10 days for refusing jury service. Jail ! Fuck me…scum get home D for assault/manslaughter !

Pathetic country…pathetic justice system.
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July 12, 2013 6:08pm
Kea

Such talent going to waste.

RF, Bain has the advantage over the Police, because he saw the whole thing happen 🙂
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July 12, 2013 6:10pm
Kea

liarbors a joke , the trouble is that the sort of people we want on Juries often don’t want to be there. Normal employed people. We end up with Juries full of freaks and geeks.

That guy thought he was too important. Turns out he was not.
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July 12, 2013 6:13pm
RF

Kea. 6.10pm. I was referring to every mans best friend uncle Joe but if the cap fits…..etc. birds of a feather and all that.
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July 12, 2013 6:14pm
Pauleastbay

From Red

If you secular progressives had half a clue you would know that religion is not a mandatory part of Conservatism. Tolerance is though.

If that tolerance line is true Redmiester you can’t be much of a conservative , straight out brilliant, some Red gold after work –

does he even know he does it?
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July 12, 2013 6:16pm
Kea

RF, do you reckon Joe knows he did it ?
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July 12, 2013 6:19pm
liarbors a joke

yeah but jails way over the top…WAY over..
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July 12, 2013 6:19pm
Judith

RF (848) Says:
July 12th, 2013 at 6:00 pm
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You obviously never waited for the news. NZ best finger print expert examined them today and thinks there is no sign of cuts or scratches, but thinks the originals need to be examined to get a better idea. He thinks the white matter is moisture from the the body being held in the freezer, and not an indication of any damage. Says there might never be a conclusion though

What’s the bet the police have ‘lost’ the originals so no definitive answer can ever be found!
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July 12, 2013 6:24pm
Kea

liarbors a joke, yes 10 days is a fair stretch. The Judge must have been pretty pissed off about something. I wonder how the ~~jury member~~ prisoner will manage his important business when he is locked up.

I think he is appealing.
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July 12, 2013 6:24pm
RF

Kea. 6.19pm. Of course he knows… Joe is the all seeing eye and knows everything. I draw my blinds at night and face my mirrors to the wall so the eye does not seek me out.
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July 12, 2013 6:24pm
Kea

Judith, you have followed this saga more closely than I have. Why do you think Bain did it ?
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July 12, 2013 6:27pm
Kea

RF, how many mirrors have you got in that bedroom ! ? 😉

I wonder what is next on Bain’s list ? He never did pull off that rape, though he did kill his family and get away with it, so anything is possible.
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July 12, 2013 6:30pm
RF

Judith. 6.24pm. No I missed that. Have been delayed by snow and travel plans disrupted. It will be interesting to see the official response from the Police. Its a pity Joe is David’s spokesman as his smug attitude when fronting on TV is a major turn off.
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July 12, 2013 6:40pm
Judith

Kea (5,932) Says:
July 12th, 2013 at 6:27 pm
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Sorry was on the phone

Just quickly a few things that come to mind,
There is no explanation to account for the blood spatter on Robin’s clothing.
The Crown, despite their best efforts have been unable to explain that, or the blood under Robin’s fingernails, or the blood spatter on his hand that couldn’t have come from his own wound.
The bloodied sockprint’s cant have been David’s, which put Robin in the part of the house where the family were murdered.
The wounds on Robin’s hand
Spent shells in Robin’s caravan

A few behavioural things
Margaret was first shot.
The way Robin was living removed all sense of self-worth from him.
Robin’s profile is highly consistent with other people who have committed familicide.

And the fact that there is nothing that ties them to David –
The fingerprints on the gun weren’t in blood (the Crown lied at the first trial)
The blood on his clothing was tiny and wiped blood, consistent with him brushing against blood on the door frames.
The palm print on the washing machine was consistent with him washing the clothes, which was his normal habit.

Behaviourial.
David’s life had never been better. He found someone he cared about (g/f) for the first time
He was studying at Uni in a subject he loved and was doing well in
He was in choirs and plays which he loved doing.
He had more friends than he had before
He was happy, and like most young men, ignoring what was happening in his family (dynamics)

Davids psych tests all came back showing he had no psychopathy. Given that his life was ok, for him to have killed his family he would have had to be psychopathic, as he had no signs like Robin, of having given up on life.

and so on.
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July 12, 2013 6:40pm
Judith

RF (850) Says:
July 12th, 2013 at 6:40 pm
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I agree with you to a certain extent.
However, I also know how many times the police have played games, stuffed up evidence, and so on. I guess Joe and team have just had enough of being stuffed around.

And lets face it, there is a lot of misrepresentation by groups in the community regarding evidence etc.
There are not many people who have bothered to refer to the actual case notes etc to establish the facts in the case.
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July 12, 2013 6:43pm
RF

Kea..6.30pm. I have the usual large mirror on the ceiling above the bed and two either side of the video camera on the wall facing the foot of the bed.
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July 12, 2013 6:46pm
Judith

Kea (5,933) Says:
July 12th, 2013 at 6:30 pm
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The word rape was never mentioned by David Bain, or the witnesses that heard him talk about the act.

The word rape was added by the Crown to ‘explain’ what they thought he meant.

David Bain had come back from Paupa New Guinea after living most of his childhood and early teenage years there.
He was unsure how to act like other kids, and was bullied a lot. Yes, he said stupid things to try and act like the other boys, and get friends. But that was many years before the deaths, and his paper run was done, and finished on the morning concerned. Witnesses saw him doing it, and there was no patch of it that he was ‘missing’ or anything like it.
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July 12, 2013 6:48pm
Redbaiter

“If that tolerance line is true Redmiester you can’t be much of a conservative , straight out brilliant, some Red gold after work”

Oh wow, there’s Paula sneering again, in comments that are (as usual) completely empty of argument.

Why don’t you or any other self professed liberal/ progs give me an example of your own wonderful “tolerance” so us poor Conservatives can try and emulate it when the need might arise?
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July 12, 2013 6:49pm
RF

Judith. 6.40pm. This is the most polarising topic I have ever come across. Very harsh comments have been made in the heat of the moment by both sides. You believe that David is innocent and I believe he is guilty and we should respect each others point of view. The Police did not perform to their usual high standard as I know a few who were involved and it is obvious some short cuts were taken. The last trial revealed a number of shortcomings and perhaps it was typical of attitudes of some of more of the senior staff in the Dunedin Station. Never worked there.. Thank god.

Must away as I have booked into a motel.
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July 12, 2013 6:59pm
Judith

RF (852) Says:
July 12th, 2013 at 6:59 pm

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Thank you for your answer. I guess we just agree to disagree.
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July 12, 2013 7:01pm
Kea

RF… and few old sets of cuffs from the job 😉

Here is brief presentation explaining conservative government.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiQkOT1if24
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July 12, 2013 7:03pm
Pauleastbay

Red

I’m tolerant of everybody except politicians and hypocrites – being a hypocrite qualifies you immediately for a bottom rocker in politics anyway

I’m tolerant of everyone’s religious beliefs , I just don’t believe that they have anything to do with the secular world we live in. Believe in what you want but don’t try makes rules on how I am to live based on religion.

If a person on here cannot handle me making irrelevant and often puerile quips deliberately made to get a rise about a religion because I am bored it’s not a very strong religion or more correctly they are as weak as piss and need to stop taking themselves so seriously..

No one in the real world knows we, (the denizens of KB even exist), and when its steeped in anonymity it’s even less relevant.

Take a load off Red have a few laughs because at the end of the day no one gives a fuck .
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July 12, 2013 7:04pm
liarbors a joke

“Must away as I have booked into a motel.”

hmm the mind boggles..
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July 12, 2013 7:08pm
Redbaiter

“I’m tolerant of everyone’s religious beliefs , I just don’t believe that they have anything to do with the secular world we live in.”

I guess the convoluted and idiotic hypocrisy of that sentence completely escapes you. As I suspected, when it comes to exampling tolerance, like most vicious and nasty progs who hate Conservatives and Christians with unbridled zeal, you don’t have a clue. The reality is you’re just another half educated prog ignoramus with no understanding of political ideas outside progressivism, a world experience that is clearly paper thin and an attitude that just reeks of small town clod hopping hick.
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July 12, 2013 7:12pm
Pauleastbay

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/5009188/aliens-stole-builders-datsun-and-pit-bull.html

Seems legit, advanced alien civilization travelling across the universe to steal a Datsun
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July 12, 2013 7:15pm
Pauleastbay

Thanks for that display of tolerance Red.

You truly don’t see what you do, do you?

You take the piss out of yourself, its wonderful, but its bloody cruel of your family to let you keep on doing it though.
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July 12, 2013 7:17pm
RF

liabors a joke. 7.08pm. Hey I found this lonely sheep stuck in a snow drift. Thought I would do the decent thing and take it to my motel to warm it up.
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July 12, 2013 7:19pm
nasska

It’s not bestiality if the sheep makes the first move RF. 🙂
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July 12, 2013 7:22pm
Redbaiter

How progs are fucking our schools. Unbridled contempt for traditional standards of behaviour allows “liberals” to implement more and more police state measures as every day goes by. Look at the sad dysfunctional world the progs have built.

http://betabeat.com/2013/07/eyeball-scanning-is-now-a-reality-coming-to-a-middle-school-near-you/

Eyeball-Scanning Is Now a Reality, Coming to a Middle School Near You
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July 12, 2013 7:22pm
liarbors a joke

poor sheep…its in for an ear bashin..hope its got plenty of grog…
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July 12, 2013 7:26pm
Kea

…vicious and nasty progs who hate Conservatives and Christians with unbridled zeal,…blah blah blah

The atheists seldom have a go at the Christians without provocation. Mostly they are responding to the absurd claims made by Christians and their arrogant assumption of moral superiority. (Look at the top of this thread for an example). You are not more moral, good or a better person for telling lies to yourself and others about imaginary beings. And it is not ok to promote lies and myths in that manner. Every war torn and bloodied shit hole on the planet is soaked in religion.

We atheists show far more tolerance than we should towards these violent, intolerant and dangerous cults.
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July 12, 2013 7:26pm
RF

nasska. 7.22pm. Sorry I do not kiss and tell on the first date. Anything that goes down will be consensual.

Judith. 6.59pm. Pax
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July 12, 2013 7:26pm
Redbaiter

“Christians and their arrogant assumption of moral superiority.”

In respect of you and your prog mates its hardly an assumption. You demonstrate every day on this blog just what amoral unprincipled cowards you all are. That is hardly a matter for dispute.

Any objective observer can see that to be fact merely by perusing your comments on GD on almost any day. Grief, Narsekissa, Thedavaslinemode, yourself, with standards of behaviour that are the stuff of animals give Christians every right to see themselves as superior.

The signal you send all day every day is that you have no moral boundaries, and you will exercise any advantage of might or deceit that you might have, and do anything if you think you can personally escape punishment or detection. Self respect is a notion completely foreign to you.

Why wouldn’t Christians feel morally superior? Not only Christians. Anyone with any conventional or traditional sense of decency would feel the same.

“atheists seldom have a go at the Christians without provocation.”

That is complete and utter bullshit too. You comrade Narsekissa has no other reason for writing on this blog other than to express his obsessive and ignorant contempt for Conservatives.
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July 12, 2013 7:34pm
Nookin

Campbell just conducted a text poll on the GSCB bill. The presentation was as balanced as an SFC ledger.
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July 12, 2013 7:35pm
calendar girl

PG @ 5:59 – “And I accept his word, which I will do unless he is proven wrong. I think that’s the decent thing to do. If you or anyone can give me proof he is wrong then i will reassess …”

How can I give you proof of anything, one way or the other, when the documents are hidden in a calculated manner, even from his boss the Prime Minister? I have no idea why Mr Dunne resigned, but the perceptions aren’t great, are they? You’re the one receiving the private briefings, and I don’t know what the briefings contain either.

I presume you are not alluding to me in your reference to “anonymous people”. I’m not involved in your intriques, simply trying to make some sense out of why any loyal Minister would defy his PM and resign his Ministerial portfolios.
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July 12, 2013 7:37pm
Pauleastbay

Red

But wheres this tolerance that you ,the true conservative apparently has by the bindle full.? You have none, you have no tolerance for any opinion that differs from yours ,ergo You are not a conservative, fuck knows what you are but according to your definition you cannot be a conservative because you are so intolerant.

I’m presuming now that you have to leave the conservatives club you may be lonely so I hope you find yourself Russell, you seem confused ,and not by anything any of us have said , you’ve screwed your own pooch . Well done that man.
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July 12, 2013 7:44pm
Viking2

Oh dear. Keys day just got a lot worse.

The wanky Yanks have been at it again.

Telstra agreed more than a decade ago to store huge volumes of electronic communications it carried between Asia and America for potential surveillance by United States intelligence agencies.

Under the previously secret agreement, the telco was required to route all communications involving a US point of contact through a secure storage facility on US soil that was staffed exclusively by US citizens carrying a top-level security clearance.

The data Telstra stored for the US government includes the actual content of emails, online messages and phone calls.

The US Department of Justice and Federal Bureau of Investigation also demanded that Telstra “provide technical or other assistance to facilitate … electronic surveillance”.

http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/security-it/telstra-storing-data-on-behalf-of-us-government-20130712-hv0w4.html
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July 12, 2013 7:47pm
Nostalgia-NZ

Tough week for Judith Collins, half an hour of television in which Michael Guest plainly admits he didn’t know if David Bain was guilty – this after the Minister has ‘released’ a letter from Guest in which he claims Bain is guilty. 3 days later perfectly ‘ridged’ prints showing that Robin had no cuts on his thumb that the deputy commissioner offered as an explanation for cuts that don’t exist. Of course Guest was also shown ‘celebrating’ the PC decision re the evidence of Cottle which he had sought to have admitted.

Not to minimise that she has overlooked the opportunity (and the proper course having ‘read’ the recommendation of Ms McDonald, hired help of the Crown) to put the Watson case to bed by ordering an independent examination of those 2 pesky hairs ‘found’ on the blanket during a ‘2nd’ search.
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July 12, 2013 7:50pm
nasska

You may be a Conservative who’s worthy of Reddy’s blessing if:

1) You think that government should get out of your life but want the police to stop your neighbour from growing a couple of marijuana plants.

2) You believe something is true because it came out of your mouth.

3) You believe that everyone else should hold the same moralistic, political views as you & by God, you’re going to see to it that they do!
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July 12, 2013 7:51pm
Redbaiter

Paula, the sneering contempt that you and your ignorant prog mates display for Christians is a measure of intolerance that far exceeds any other that I observe on this blog.

(And please avail yourself of the true meaning of the word “ignorant”. I am not using it as a general adjective. I use its because it is precisely what you are, and every utterance I ever read from you and your friends re Conservatism proves you have no knowledge of the subject and an understanding of it that is lucky to avoid the label of infantile. You are completely ignorant of that subject that you profess to have enough knowledge of to support your contempt and intolerance. In truth you have no such knowledge. IOW, you have no knowledge whatsoever of something you hate and constantly deride. What this makes you is a bigot. Plain and simple.)
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July 12, 2013 7:53pm
Redbaiter

You may be a progressive if-

1) You think that other citizens have no right to judge you as a fool for obsessively consuming addictive and mind altering drugs.

2) You believe “liberals” have the market completely cornered on rational thought and opinion.

3) You believe that nobody else has the right to judge you no matter what kind of a stinking and ignorant coward you project yourself as.
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July 12, 2013 7:58pm
Pauleastbay

Hey Red, I’ve gotcha fucked haven’t I?

It all right- I know a tolerant bloke like you will admit your “tolerance is mandatory in a conservative” comment was ludicrious.
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July 12, 2013 7:59pm
Viking2

Nokia unveils 41-megapixel smartphone camera with Lumia 1020

Nokia has introduced a new smartphone, the Lumia 1020, with a powerful 41-megapixel camera that boasts “more detail than the eye can see” in its latest bid to catch up with rivals Samsung and Apple.

The Finnish company said the smartphone “is able to produce some of the sharpest images possible by any digital camera”.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/mobiles/nokia-unveils-41megapixel-smartphone-camera-with-lumia-1020-20130712-2ptwh.html#ixzz2Yofm5yRj

http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/mobiles/nokia-unveils-41megapixel-smartphone-camera-with-lumia-1020-20130712-2ptwh.html
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July 12, 2013 8:02pm
Redbaiter

“Hey Red, I’ve gotcha fucked haven’t I?”

A delusional liberal adjudicates.

Your arrogant declaration provides a clue on the reality though.

Anyone who is competing and also believes himself to be the umpire has already demonstrated who is the fucked one.
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July 12, 2013 8:04pm
nasska

You’re spilling your seed Baity. 🙂
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July 12, 2013 8:07pm
Kea

Red, explain why we should “tolerate” a violent ignorant cult that has done more damage than any ideology in human history ? The savagery and violence makes the bible one of the most obscene books every written. It is frankly disgusting and disturbing filth. The only thing more disturbing are the actions of its followers through out history.

You should feel nothing but shame for defending it.
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July 12, 2013 8:07pm
Redbaiter

“Red, explain why we should “tolerate” a violent ignorant cult that has done more damage than any ideology in human history ?”

I’m in the business of rational discussion.

I have no desire at all to act as a psychiatrist to brain damaged narcissists suffering from compulsive and obsessive delusions.
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July 12, 2013 8:10pm
Pauleastbay

@ Red

I’m in the business of rational discussion.

Its with a smile I depart to watch the footy, gold again.
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July 12, 2013 8:12pm
Redbaiter

“Its with a smile I depart to watch the footy, gold again.”

Yep, I’ve no doubt you’re far more at home in the role of couch potato than political debater.
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July 12, 2013 8:15pm
Judith

Redbaiter (3,872) Says:
July 12th, 2013 at 8:10 pm

I’m in the business of rational discussion.
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I guess its ‘after hours’ then?
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July 12, 2013 8:19pm
Kea

Yep, I’ve no doubt you’re far more at home in the role of couch potato than political debater.

That is a bit rich after you just refused to answer a simple and relevant question… because you could not do so without showing how irrational your defense of mythical beings and their followers is.

You have a lot to say for yourself for such a light weight. I guess that is why your rants are so repetitive.
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July 12, 2013 8:20pm
Redbaiter

“because you could not do so”

Hahhaa, that’s funny.

That you should even suggest I should put time and effort into debating a non existent issue with an obsessive compulsive narcissist troll whom I generally find repulsive in personal terms shows just how detached from reality you really are.

Believe what you like. If you cannot be persuaded you will be sidelined.

http://truebluenz.com/2013/02/23/progressives-and-the-futility-of-persuasion/

Go troll someone else loser.
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July 12, 2013 8:26pm
Kea

If you cannot be persuaded you will be sidelined.

Sidelined by whom ?

Last time I checked angry intolerant ranting god soaked conservatives were the ones being sidelined and their leaders jailed for kiddy fiddling.

Truth sucks a ? 🙂
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July 12, 2013 8:36pm
Redbaiter

Progressives will be sidelined by history.

Like every other poisonous destructive belief system always has been. Eventually.

Truth doesn’t suck.

In the end, it always prevails.
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July 12, 2013 8:37pm
Kea

Like every other poisonous destructive belief system always has been. Eventually.

Agreed. The first to go will be religion.

Though I know you will miss the leadership of people like Graham Capill & Ted Haggard. I am sure you will cope with assistance from kindly folk like me 🙂
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July 12, 2013 8:42pm
Redbaiter

“Agreed. The first to go will be religion.”

No progressivism is already on the way out and you and other progs know that well enough. Its going to go the way of its ideological predecessors, Fascism and Nazism.
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July 12, 2013 8:53pm
big bruv

I do find it ironic that Red has waged a ten year plus war against the left (a war in which he claims to have had many victories yet when asked to name but one of those victories he cannot do so) and it’s brain washing of our kids, society and our way of life yet in the same breath he champions the “morals” and teachings of the church as if that is the magic creed we should all be guided by.

Given the teachings of socialism and those or religion one is hard pressed to work out which is the more evil.

The answer of course is to spend as much time as possible in our schools teaching science. Once we have ingrained into the brains of our children that the world is indeed more than 4000 years old then those same kids will develop a life long immunity to the bullshit, poison and misery that is religion.

Once our kids are free from that poison then socialism does not stand a chance.
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July 12, 2013 9:04pm
Kea

Fascism and Nazism have not caused anywhere near the harm done by religion. Both were supported by the Catholic Church anyway. The Catholics have a very fascist history. You probably know that, but just hoped I would not.

I really don’t think you have the smarts or temperament for these kinds of debates. I will try and look out for you so you don’t get bullied by the others 🙂
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