General Debate 7 June 2013

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Pete George

David Clark usually comes across as mild mannered and reasonable in public, but he sometimes transforms in Parliament into a heckling hulk.

Yesterday he called Jonathon Coleman a wanker, and Coleman ended up being thrown out of the house for not apologising for calling Clark a coward. Banks raised a point of order on Clark’s comment…

Hon John Banks: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. During the narrative, the member over there the Very Reverend Dr Clark made a disgraceful across-the-House abuse at my bench mate, which was insulting and demeaning to the whole of Parliament. Could you drag him back in and get him to withdraw and apologise.

… but Clark had disappeared.

About an hour later Clark returned with his normal persona and offered an apology, looking appropriately sheepish and contrite.

Dr Heckle and Mr Clark.
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June 7, 2013 8:10am
Paulus

I think it is hilarious that the great cheat and liar Winston Peters is having a go at Peter Dunne.
There has been bad blood for many years between these two.

Gives National the ability to carry on with reformation and legislation whilst the brou hah hah over this trivial matter goes on.

Love that all the many opposition parties are on to this – David Shearer should concentrate on devising some real new, not Greens, policy instead.

I see that Mallard woke up yesterday in Parliament, but had to go out of the house for a leak.

Everybody thought that Winston had died, but Lazarus like he rises again, to the glee of the media.
Winston – when are you going to pay back the $158,000 you stole from the taxpayer ?

I heard years ago that Jim Anderton probably never had 500 paid up members once he had set up his variously named parties, but that is different. Under the Labour regime that was not relevant.
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June 7, 2013 8:51am
Manolo

DPF has a competitor: http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/8763074/Aaron-Gilmore-starts-blog

http://aaronwgilmore.wordpress.com/
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June 7, 2013 9:04am
Fletch

I don’t know WTF Obama is up to, but he has just given Saudi Arabia unrestricted access to American skies. What’s the worst that could happen?

(CNSNews.com) – The United States and Saudi Arabia have signed an Open Skies agreement that will “permit unrestricted air service by the airlines of both countries between and beyond the other’s territory.”

The agreement means Saudi airlines may fly from any point in the kingdom to any point in the United States, and that U.S. airlines may fly from any point here to any airport in Saudi Arabia.

The deal was signed May 28 in Jeddah by U.S. Ambassador to Saudi Arabia James B. Smith and Dr. Faisal bin Hamad Al-Sugair, Saudi Arabia’s Deputy Director of the General Authority of Civil Aviation.

In addition to permitting each nations’ airlines to provide unrestricted air service to any point in the other country, the agreement also eliminates restrictions on how often the carriers can fly, the kind of aircraft they can use and the prices they charge.

“Saudi Arabia is a valued and close partner of the United States,” Kerry Humphrey of the State Department’s Bureau of Economic & Business Affairs told CNSNews.com. “This agreement not only reflects the excellent state of our bilateral relations, but also promises to facilitate further development of those relations with regard to tourism and trade.”

Fifteen of the 19 men who hijacked and crashed American planes on Sept. 11, 2001 were from Saudi Arabia.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/us-gives-saudi-airlines-unrestricted-access-american-skies
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June 7, 2013 9:05am
Fletch

And the other big story of the day – the NSA is the U.S is indiscriminately taking phone records, requested from one of America’s biggest telcos.

The National Security Agency is currently collecting the telephone records of millions of US customers of Verizon, one of America’s largest telecoms providers, under a top secret court order issued in April.

The order, a copy of which has been obtained by the Guardian, requires Verizon on an “ongoing, daily basis” to give the NSA information on all telephone calls in its systems, both within the US and between the US and other countries.

The document shows for the first time that under the Obama administration the communication records of millions of US citizens are being collected indiscriminately and in bulk – regardless of whether they are suspected of any wrongdoing.

The secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (Fisa) granted the order to the FBI on April 25, giving the government unlimited authority to obtain the data for a specified three-month period ending on July 19.

Under the terms of the blanket order, the numbers of both parties on a call are handed over, as is location data, call duration, unique identifiers, and the time and duration of all calls. The contents of the conversation itself are not covered.

The disclosure is likely to reignite longstanding debates in the US over the proper extent of the government’s domestic spying powers.

And it was the Guadian from Britain who broke this, not a news agency in the U.S – none of the big scandals currently rocking have been broken by the mainstream media in the U.S.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/06/nsa-phone-records-verizon-court-order

I think the blinders are beginning to come off.
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June 7, 2013 9:09am
dime

Sad day as a kelston boys old boy.
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June 7, 2013 9:10am
KiwiGreg

@ Fletch just means Saudi airlines can fly to the US. doesnt let them fly domestically (US very anti-competitive on that), still have to comply with FAA and air traffic control, hardly a big deal.
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June 7, 2013 9:10am
Fletch

KiwiGreg, it still seems a very stupid thing to do. it is putting American lives at risk.
Also remember that security for Saudi travellers has been relaxed as well, with a “trusted traveller” status that fast tracks people into the U.S.

A Department of Homeland Security program intended to give “trusted traveler” status to low-risk airline passengers soon will be extended to Saudi travelers, opening the program to criticism for accommodating the country that produced 15 of the 19 hijackers behind the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

Sources voiced concern about the decision to the Investigative Project on Terrorism, which issued a report Wednesday on the under-the-radar announcement — which was first made by Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano after meeting in January with her Saudi counterpart. According to the IPT, this would be the first time the Saudi government has been given such a direct role in fast-tracking people for entry into the United States.

“I think you have radical Wahhabism in certain elements in Saudi Arabia, and I think to be more lenient there than in other places would be a mistake,” Rep. Frank Wolf told the Investigative Project on Terrorism. “There were 15 [hijackers] from that country, and there is a lot taking place in that region.”

Only an exclusive handful of countries enjoy inclusion in the Global Entry program — Canada, Mexico, South Korea and the Netherlands. According to the IPT, some officials are questioning why Saudi Arabia gets to reap the benefits of the program, when key U.S. allies like Germany and France are not enrolled; Israel has reached a deal with the U.S., but that partnership has not yet been implemented.

Any Saudi travelers cleared through the program will be able to bypass the normal customs line after providing passports and fingerprints. The status lasts for five years.

The decision is a turnaround, the IPT notes, from when Saudi Arabia was briefly placed on a list of countries whose U.S.-bound travelers would face higher scrutiny, in the wake of the failed Christmas Day bombing attempt in 2009.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/20/decision-to-extend-trusted-traveler-program-to-saudi-scrutinized/

Why with the Saudis? What makes them so special? Something smells.
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June 7, 2013 9:19am
iMP

OH DEAR! Aaron Gilmore is back…

http://conzervative.wordpress.com/2013/06/07/aaron-gilmore-returns-who-are-you/
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June 7, 2013 9:49am
sbk

the targeting done by the IRS,the NSA collecting,the FBI wanting back doors written into software…the next time the Yanks speak about democracy/point fingers at…laugh in their faces…Dude,get on the high horse you rode in on and Fuck off

forget about the Russia and China…the Obama Admin is the biggest threat to democracy today.

the USSA…leader of the free world…sadly,not anymore.
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June 7, 2013 9:57am
Pete George

Winston has had a column posted by RadioLive saying that leaking classified information is a serious matter. I agree.

But of course he doesn’t make the personal attack accusations he has made under parliamenary privilege. Accusations that, if they were based on and facts, would be based on the leaking of confidential information.

And if he doesn’t have facts he is making things up. Would Peters lie? Yes, or no?

Winston’s lips less loose outside Parliament
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June 7, 2013 10:05am
publicwatchdog

I for one, would like to see the fluoridation debate focused on ARGUMENTS (based upon FACTS and EVIDENCE) – rather than just personally attacking those who are opposed to fluoridation?

In my experience, those who rely on ad hominem (personal) attacks rather than arguments based on FACTS and EVIDENCE, don’t actually have a ‘considered’ opinion?

(Meant of course, in a caring way 🙂

Seen this?

http://foodmatters.tv/articles-1/is-water-fluoridation-in-the-best-interests-of-public-health

(Has some FACTS and EVIDENCE supporting the anti-fluoridation position 🙂

Penny Bright
2013 Auckland Mayoral candidate – who does NOT support fluoridation of public water supplies.
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June 7, 2013 11:12am
RightNow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1WcxRaMmIM
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June 7, 2013 11:17am
graham

Penny, good to see you back!

I must ask, will you as a Mayoral Candidate be deigning to answer any questions this time around? Or will you refuse to be open and transparent?

I merely ask because on yesterday’s General Debate, you posed a question to John Palino. I thought this was such a good question that it would be worthwhile asking you the very same question.

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/06/general_debate_6_june_2013.html#comment-1153459

But, darn, I am having a very difficult time finding your response. Obviously, in the interests of “genuine transparency and accountability in local and central government” which you campaign for, you would be setting an example and would eagerly rush to answer this question. I’m sure there must have been some “glitch” and your reply has disappeared for some reason.

Would you care to repost it?

Thanks, and have a LOVELY day! 🙂
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June 7, 2013 11:21am
Manolo

Even its friends at the NY Times find the Messiah’s administration wanting:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/07/opinion/president-obamas-dragnet.html?_r=1&
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June 7, 2013 11:45am
Kea

Why with the Saudis? What makes them so special? Something smells.

1. Why the biggest financiers of radical Islam in the world ?

2. Why the people who planned and executed 911 ?

Ask that ignorant black war monger Obama …
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June 7, 2013 11:58am
Griff

Bush
would be the guy who invaded a couple of shitholes
but never mind blame the poor shit who was voted in after because he’s a demon lizard.

😆

Fletch does leaps from
protect the USA from the Muslim world.
with
don’t spend effort in arming the internal forces.
don’t monitor communication.
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June 7, 2013 12:08pm
TheContrarian

Penny, Joseph Mercola is a crank and a fraud – you look like an idiot posting his articles.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Joseph_Mercola
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June 7, 2013 12:12pm
Left Right and Centre

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/8767724/Dead-teens-All-Black-dream

I’m gobsmacked… you see it in the news every now and then… but still. Dead from a punch to the head? Was it one punch? You’d want to see what happened or a good accurate description just to try and understand it. Very, very sad story.
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June 7, 2013 12:16pm
Kea

Griff, Bush is not the president anymore and has not been for a very very long time.

Obama has invaded and launched Drone attacks all over the world. He makes Bush look like a peace freak. Obama has stopped no wars and has esculated existing ones massively, while begining new ones. The withdrawal from Iraq was set by BUSH not by Obama.

Do some reading and educate yourself. Try judging him by the content of his character not the colour of his skin.
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June 7, 2013 12:22pm
Tom Jackson

And the other big story of the day – the NSA is the U.S is indiscriminately taking phone records, requested from one of America’s biggest telcos.

It’s worse.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-nsa-data

Pretty much everything people use on a daily basis there.

I’m beginning to think that those Catholic priests had the right idea trying to destroy Waihopai.
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June 7, 2013 12:23pm
Kea

The West Auckland police officer accused of being part of an organised criminal group manufacturing and supplying P has quit his job.

The father of five is accused of supplying, conspiring to supply, possession of and manufacturing a class A controlled drug.

Other charges include conspiracy to commit aggravated robbery, conspiring to defeat the course of justice and accessing a computer for dishonest purposes.

I am surprised our resident authority worshippers are not all over this demanding the Head Hunters gang member is severely punnished. But strangely they are very quiet…

Cue: It is only one ~~Gang Member/Muslim/Maori~~cop blah blah blah
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June 7, 2013 12:26pm
iMP

Obama invaded Libya’s US Benghazi embassy (own goal!) oh that’s right, he let Al Qaeda militants do that for him (after giving them stinger missiles via the CIA and then asking Amass, Stevens to clean that mess up). Dang. Blood on hands.
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June 7, 2013 12:29pm
dime

Kea – huh?

if the cop is found guilty then he deserves the maximum sentence
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June 7, 2013 12:46pm
kowtow

kea can’t help himself trying to drum up some anti police sentiment!

No need to comment. He’s on trial……if guilty he’ll get his comeuppance.
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June 7, 2013 12:52pm
Kea

dime, no he deserves the same treatment as anyone else. My opposition to double standards works both ways. Though the breach of trust is an aggrivating feature and I would hope it is considered at sentencing.
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June 7, 2013 12:53pm
Kea

kowtow you bloody two faced hypocrite. You do not say similar things when others appear before the courts or do wrong. Like it or lump it, the history of policing is one of violence and corruption. We have some of the best cops in the world, but that is not as big a compliment as it may sound !
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June 7, 2013 12:55pm
Kea

kea can’t help himself trying to drum up some anti ~~police~~ Head Hunters gang member sentiment!
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June 7, 2013 12:56pm
dime

“Though the breach of trust is an aggrivating feature and I would hope it is considered at sentencing.”

umm yeah. considered to the pint he gets the maximum 😀

i love how theymention he has 5 kids. is that to make us feel bad for him? like “oh he needed the money” or is it more “fuck, a cop with 5 kids and a p guy? shocking”
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June 7, 2013 1:01pm
Griff

Drone attacks
compared to invading Iraq and the shit hole pile of festering tribal warfare Afghanistan.
Even the ruskies failed there
Did you ever see the lines of cooked Iraq looters leaving Kuwait.
Drone attacks represent pre emptive and surgical strikes.
Far better for the USA its inhabitants and the west far less casualty on both sides in a dirty war.
I would much rather the USA uses drone attack if they must resort to killing.
I would much prefer the towel head fanatics stuck to killing there own.
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June 7, 2013 1:04pm
Kea

Griff, you make some points I agree with.

Obama massively increased the absurd war in Afghanistan. The only effect is they are losing faster. Remember this invasion was because of an attack by Saudi Arabians, who had a training camp out in the desert there. The Saudis are mates with the US !

There is nothing “surgical” about blowing civilians to bits, but the real issue is that there is no need for the US to be doing these things anyway. It is counter productive.

I agree the towel head fanatics should be left to kill each other. We should not be be sacrificing our soldiers to sort out their shit. We just need to keep things safe at home.
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June 7, 2013 1:15pm
Kea

“kea can’t help himself trying to drum up some anti police sentiment!”

kea can’t help himself trying to drum up some anti Maori sentiment!

kea can’t help himself trying to drum up some anti Gang associate sentiment!

kea can’t help himself trying to drum up some anti father with three kids sentiment!

kea can’t help himself trying to drum up some anti corruption sentiment!… ?
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June 7, 2013 1:18pm
Pete George

Hmmm

Fairfax put out a news item about the inquiry into who leaked the Kitteridge report to them. They point to a ominous ipredictions into Dunne’s fate. They say that Key has Henry’s report.

Then @NZStuffPolitics tweets

The Prime Minister is holding a press conference into the GCSB report leak inquiry at 3:30pm.

A Friday afternoon media dump?

But on the other hand Key has earlier said he trusts Dunne’s word – has he said that since he has had a copy of Henry’s report?

Coincidentally (?) the Speaker threw Dunne a lifeline yesterday. That could have been done indepently – it should have been anyway.

Will Dunne’s worst couple of weeks get even more dire? I have no idea.
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June 7, 2013 1:26pm
wreck1080

Dollar has fallen a little but if you take out the last month or so of data it is still at record levels.

The thing is that the Kiwi is strengthening quite a lot against the aussie so this keeps the trade weighted index higher than it would otherwise be.

Interesting to see how a higher AUD will affect us given that we trade so much with them.
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June 7, 2013 1:35pm
kowtow

The history of policing is one of violence and corruption…….

Fuck me ,always look on the bright side ,why don’t you.

If that idiot knew anything about the history of policing he’d know we have a police force so the army didn’t have to sort out protesting mobs.

Peterloo and all that.
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June 7, 2013 1:39pm
Manolo

The Luddites continue to consider ways to wreck the economy and bankrupt our country:
http://news.msn.co.nz/nationalnews/8671247/greens-put-carbon-tax-back-on-agenda

An economic catastrophe awaits New Zealand if communist the Green Party gains political power.
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June 7, 2013 1:52pm
publicwatchdog

Hi Kiwibloggers!

Seen this?

“PRIVATE PROSECUTION A DUNN DEAL

The New Zealand Private Prosecution Service Limited will file an Information on Monday the against Honourable Peter Dunn under Section 228 (b) of the Crimes Act 1961 for dishonestly using a document (The Registration of the United First Political Party) to continue to receive funding of $100,000 a year as the leader of a Registered Political Party and $20,000 as a MP for a registered party.

Section 228(b) reads:

228 Dishonestly taking or using document Every one is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 7 years who, with intent to obtain any property, service, pecuniary advantage, or valuable consideration,—

(a)dishonestly and without claim of right, takes or obtains any document; or
(b)dishonestly and without claim of right, uses or attempts to use any document.

The decision of the Speaker is irrelevant is open to interpretation. United First is not registered and an honest person would write to the speaker and ensure the funding stopped until the party is reregistered. Any funding received ought to be refunded or donated to charity.

If Dunn was receiving a WINZ benefit and did not meet the criterion it would be immediately stopped and WINZ would take recovery and prosecution action.

It is in the interest of our Parliamentary System of Democracy that the situation ought to be challenged in Court.

Graham Mc Cready

Informant for NZPPS Ltd”
______________________________________________________________________________________________

FACTS:

http://www.elections.org.nz/news-media/cancellation-united-future-31-may-2013

CANCELLATION OF UNITED FUTURE – 31 MAY 2013

31 May 2013 News items

On 31 May 2013 the Electoral Commission board cancelled the registration of the United Future New Zealand (United Future) party at the party’s request in accordance with section 70 of the Electoral Act 1993.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________

THE LAW:

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1993/0087/latest/DLM308804.html

70 Cancellation of registration

(1)The Electoral Commission shall cancel the registration of a political party at the request of one of the persons specified in section 63(1) if satisfied that the request for cancellation is made by the applicant on behalf of the party.

(1A)The provisions of section 64, with any necessary modifications, apply to every request under subsection (1).

(2)The Electoral Commission shall cancel the registration of any political party on being satisfied that the number of current financial members of the party who are eligible to enrol as electors has fallen below 500.

(2A)For the purposes of exercising the powers conferred on it by subsection (2), the Electoral Commission may require a political party to supply to it a list of the party’s current financial members within any reasonable time that the Electoral Commission specifies.

(3)Where the Electoral Commission cancels the registration of any political party, it shall, as soon as reasonably practicable, and in any event not later than 10 working days after the date of the cancellation,—
(a)give, where the cancellation was effected under subsection (1), written notice of the cancellation to both the applicant for cancellation and the secretary of the political party:
(b)give, where the cancellation was effected under subsection (2), written notice of the cancellation to the secretary or the last-known secretary of the political party, which written notice shall set out the reasons for the cancellation:
__________________________________________________________________________________________________

Penny Bright
2013 Auckland Mayoral candidate
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June 7, 2013 1:58pm
alex Masterley

Penny:

Have you paid your water rates or general rates yet?
Have you paid for the power you stole while you were resident at Aotea Square?
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June 7, 2013 2:19pm
graham

Penny:

Have you ever answered any questions asked of you in your bid to become mayor of Auckland? If not, I would suggest that if you ever do become mayor you’ll find it very difficult to fulfill the legal requirements as set out in the Local Government (Auckland Council) Act 2009:

9 Mayor of Auckland
(1) The role of the mayor is to—
(a) articulate and promote a vision for Auckland; and
(b) provide leadership for the purpose of achieving objectives that will contribute to that vision.
(2) Without limiting subsection (1), it is the role of the mayor to—
(a) lead the development of Council plans (including the LTP and the annual plan), policies, and budgets for consideration by the governing body; and
(b) ensure there is effective engagement between the Auckland Council and the people of Auckland, including those too young to vote.

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2009/0032/latest/DLM2044937.html

So if you’re serious about becoming mayor, I’d suggest you start getting some practice in engaging with the people of Auckland.
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June 7, 2013 2:39pm
smttc

Penny, you moron. Its Dunne – not Dunn.
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June 7, 2013 2:43pm
Kea

Penny, get a boyfriend honey ! 😉
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June 7, 2013 2:47pm
skyblue

Penny does have a boyfriend. However he needs new batteries.
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June 7, 2013 2:47pm
skyblue

See GSBC report out at 3-30.
iPredict seem to be taking the position that Dunne is the leaker.
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June 7, 2013 2:49pm
RightNow

“iPredict seem to be taking the position that Dunne is the leaker.”
The price seems to have crashed. Last price 0.05
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June 7, 2013 2:53pm
Colville

Penny, get a boyfriend honey !

or..

Penny … have sex and travel …

Fuck off !
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June 7, 2013 3:07pm
skyblue

Dunne has resigned.
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June 7, 2013 3:17pm
skyblue

Mr incontenance Peter Dunne is.
That will put cat among the pidgeons.
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June 7, 2013 3:18pm
Tom Jackson

Lawl

Where’s Pete George?
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June 7, 2013 3:21pm
skyblue

Skyblue 1 Rightnow 0 LOL.
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June 7, 2013 3:32pm
publicwatchdog

http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/dunne-quits-ja-141237

Good work Winston Peters.

When is the NZ Prime Minister John Key going to get the DEFENDANT John Banks to resign as a Minister?

Penny Bright

2013 Auckland Mayoral candidate
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June 7, 2013 3:55pm
RightNow

“Skyblue 1 Rightnow 0 LOL.”
Nah (or yeah), I didn’t buy/sell any, I just went to have a look when I saw your comment.
I see they’ve suspended trading now. Not sure if the contract will pay $1 or not based on the report though.
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June 7, 2013 4:11pm
Fletch

Obama invaded Libya’s US Benghazi embassy (own goal!) oh that’s right, he let Al Qaeda militants do that for him (after giving them stinger missiles via the CIA and then asking Amass, Stevens to clean that mess up). Dang. Blood on hands.

iMP, it gets worse if what an online post by someone from Al Qeada says is true that Stevens was killed by lethal injection.
One theory is that Obama’s plan may have been to have Ambassador Stevens kidnapped in Benghazi then swap him for the infamous Blind Sheikh in a prisoner exchange, thus giving Obama huge props for the election coming up. It all went sour though and Stevens ended up being killed by lethal injection.

An al Qaeda terrorist stated in a recent online posting that U.S. Ambassador to Libya J. Christopher Stevens was killed by lethal injection after plans to kidnap him during the Sept. 11 attacks in Benghazi went bad.

The veracity of the claim by Abdallah Dhu-al-Bajadin, who was identified by U.S. officials as a weapons expert for al Qaeda, could not be determined. However, U.S. officials have not dismissed the terrorist’s assertion.

An FBI spokeswoman indicated that the bureau is aware of the claim but declined to comment because of the ongoing investigation into the Benghazi attacks.

The “plan was based on abduction and exchange of high-level prisoners,” the terrorist wrote on the prominent jihadist Web forum Ansar al-Mujahideen Network. “However, the operation took another turn, for a reason God only knows, when one of the members of the jihadist cell improvised and followed Plan B.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/4/al-qaeda-weapons-expert-us-ambassador-libya-killed/#ixzz2VJepgUnQ

The rest of the theory –

Under this operating theory, had all gone according to plan, the Obama administration would have secretly facilitated the capture of Ambassador Stevens. This would have permitted Obama to safely trade the Ambassador through the release of the Blind Sheikh. All of this would occur, of course, just before the election. Obama would take very public credit for Stevens’ safe return as well as a newly strengthened relationship with Egypt’s Morsi.

Photo ops featuring Obama and Stevens would be splashed along the campaign trail, ostensibly solidifying the president’s foreign policy qualifications.

Didn’t work out that way though.
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June 7, 2013 5:08pm
liarbors a joke

Petrol up again today 4 cents a litre..
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June 7, 2013 5:49pm
OneTrack

“Petrol up again today 4 cents a litre..”

How much will the carbon tax put it up by? 4c? 40c? …
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June 7, 2013 6:31pm
nasska

The son asked, “Dad, when was the first time you fell in love?”

He said, “I was 18. I walked into a bar and spotted the most gorgeous blonde I’d ever seen. Cupid fired his arrow the second I saw her.”

The son continued, “So what happened?”

“Nothing. Unfortunately the arrow missed and hit your Mother.”
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June 7, 2013 8:00pm
Pauleastbay

He was in ecstasy with a huge smile on his face as his wife moved forward,
then backwards, forward, then backwards again…… back and forth…
back and forth….. in and out…….
She could feel the sweat on her forehead, between her breasts and trickling
down the small of her back.
She was getting near to the end.
Her heart was pounding….. her face was flushed…..

Then she moaned, softly at first, then began to groan louder.

Finally, totally exhausted, she let out an almighty scream and shouted,

“Okay, Okay!!! I can’t park the car!!! You do it, you smug bastard!!!”
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June 7, 2013 8:01pm
nasska

I spotted a fat career solo mother leaving Kentucky Fried with a fag in one hand and a baby in the other earlier, so I threw her a can of bourbon & coke.

Hardest decision of her life.
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June 7, 2013 8:15pm
kowtow

Looks Muslim to me.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2337142/Islamist-gang-wanted-start-war-EDL-Bomb-attack-sparked-spiral-terror-far-Right.html
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June 7, 2013 8:16pm
Steve (North Shore)

kowtow.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2337142/Islamist-gang-wanted-start-war-EDL-Bomb-attack-sparked-spiral-terror-far-Right.html

Just imagine how much money Gillette would make if they could get these untidy losers to have a shave just one time
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June 7, 2013 8:27pm
Komata

Yet, despite all the glaringly obvious evidence about the fifth-column resident within its borders, STILL Britain does nothing (but then, so does New Zealand)…
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June 7, 2013 9:32pm
MT_Tinman

nasska (6,547) Says:
June 7th, 2013 at 8:15 pm
I spotted a fat career solo mother leaving Kentucky Fried with a fag in one hand and a baby in the other earlier, so I threw her a can of bourbon & coke.

Hardest decision of her life.

Can’t see why, you have to pay to replace a cigarette.
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June 8, 2013 6:20am
Manolo

How sad: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100220493/the-stunning-decline-of-barack-obama-2013-ten-key-reasons-why-the-obama-presidency-is-in-meltdown/
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June 8, 2013 6:56am
UglyTruth

I for one, would like to see the fluoridation debate focused on ARGUMENTS (based upon FACTS and EVIDENCE) – rather than just personally attacking those who are opposed to fluoridation?

Ad hominems are an argument of last resort.

I was told today of a kid who had never been exposed to fluoride. When his school found out they checked his teeth expecting the worst but didn’t find any change since the last examination. They gave his teeth fluoride treatment anyway, and his mother noted how he was much less active afterwards.
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