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June 23, 2013 8:00am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 23 June 2013

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Reid

One report is that that is en route to Iceland, and suggesting Julian (presumably Assange) has been involved in organising it.

I doubt it. The Russian VP said the day after the story broke that if Snowden made an application for asylum Russia would look at it. And the asylum issue is not about doing Snowden a favour or about some altruistic state standing up for fweedom it’s about giving Uncle Sam the fingers, and always has been. All other considerations are hallucinations based on childish fantasies about how international diplomacy works and fweedom and democwacy NEVER enters into that and it never will.

I especially don’t see any need for some peculiar albino creature to intercede on his behalf as if Assange has any sway over the leaders of any country let alone Iceland. I mean why? Because he hosts his severs there? Get off the grass.
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June 23, 2013 8:54pm
joana

Dugledog
You have a very superficial understanding of Asians but then I have been in a large clan for decades and have lived in an overseas Chinese community. I should know more than you. On balance, our culture is better..
Why? We are more open., more honest , less abusive , less cruel , less vicious , less money hungry , more friendly , more charitable , less family only exclusive , therefore much more community minded , more neighbourly , more generous , more forgiving , more inclined to pay tax , more inclined to be fair, less inclined to gamble etc etc etc..
An extraordinary number of Chinese are ruled and I mean ruled by their Money Gods..oh and I forgot most are divorced from nature..If they see land , they want to build on it..
I guess I could go on and on.. The overseas community I lived was ruled by fear , corruption and the most hideous violent gangs you could imagine..Chinese gangs would make the Mongrel mob look like kittens, very sweet kittens..
Is this want you want in NZ?
It makes me sad to hear people denigrating their own cultures..and as for the they work much harder than us..there is an element of truth but there is also part myth..
Did I get started on Chinese pride? No , that can be another night sticking up for the people I love best..kiwis.
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June 23, 2013 8:55pm
Left Right and Centre

calendar girl 7:12 pm On the practical side of things…. at least that’s not a problem, is it? You can hang up on them… as you say you sometimes do…

And that’s really the way to send a message to them. Discouragement. I don’t know what their strike rates are but it seems like a dumb way to try and get sales.

Something I’ve done before is kept them talking as long as possible. And then say thanks see ya later dick. But that’s just me.

I reckon there should be a legal option to take yourself off calling lists. So it can’t happen. And the door-to-door dorks.

I’ve got an unlisted number. I hardly get any cold calls but they do still happen. So in my experience that might reduce but not eliminate them. Why should you? Exactly. Why should you. Unfortunately… that’s life. There’s plenty of ‘why should I have to’ situations…. big and small that we all face… usually nothing you can do about them.

On my run you come across people parked across driveways. It’s not that big a deal.. only very small I know… but why should I have to make do with a small fraction of the footpath with the rest illegally obstructed?

One small point.. I’m confused… why would ‘friends’ have to look up your number? If they’re friends they must surely know it, no? Or have a cellphone number? Do they just never write it down knowing it’s in the book/ online? Can’t remember it? Doesn’t matter I know- it might be good for acquaintances etc or who knows what else.

I’m sure I remember having codes with ex-gfs… like… ring twice, hang-up, ring back… that kind of thing.

Don’t they just have dialers too? Like…phone numbers for an area might share the same first three digits as you know… so the dialer tries the whole lot after the first three 0000-9999… and then you get a nuisance call during dinner.
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June 23, 2013 9:12pm
Left Right and Centre

You can call me Philip if you want. Shit… where to start man…

Doing heaps of Km’s is not always the best way.

Not always the best way *for you*. That’s very abbreviated and would require a lot more detail to paint a good picture of your running story. For eg… is it just because it’s too dark that it didn’t work? Too slow and boring? Not as good for fitness? No idea.

My post run weight this evening was 79.6kg. It’s fantastic running at a lower weight… that’s for sure. My heaviest was probably around 2005 or so… 98-100kg. In 2006 I ran 4.6kms about five/six times a week at about that weight. I wanted a ‘sub 20’ time every time… and got them. To this day my quickest 4.6km time is 17:46 in 2006… weight then? About 94-96kg or something. I doubt that I could match that now… even weighing 10-15kg less!! Don’t sweat 91kg… that’s all I’m saying.

I need to eat less, simple as that.

Eat less total kilojoules? Balance energy equation? Run a kilojoule deficit? My porridge tonight weighed 1.3kg. Oats… 170g… the rest water. And two diced bananas on top of that. I eat a fair bit by weight… not kilojoules though. Unless you count my Thursday binge of Belgium raw biscuit mix with custard icing…. heaven, heaven, heaven. I wish I had some in front of me right now. More exercise. 250kj per km. (approx).

I used to have a thing about running as fast as I could/ running good times. I still do a bit. But nothing like before. I like clocking up the kms. I’ve discovered that it’s more enjoyable not racing every time. And I still run at a good pace for me anyway. Ironically… it’s probably made me faster in a different way. You can work on your stride… really think about foot strike and good posture.. and the more kms I’ve done the quicker I get anyway. My quick 10km time is 42’04” or something. I ran a 20km in 92 mins not so long ago. I didn’t feel like I was racing 100%. That’s the funny thing… stop racing and the times come down anyway.

Before Oct I’d never run 10kms per day… it was all part of losing weight…. I was only meant to do it for seventy days to shift the last seven kilos and well.. I just kept on going. The last seven kilos are long gone so it must’ve helped. I’ve still got a time limit on it… 60 mins. On a bad day I need it… on Sat I ran it in 46 mins so… doesn’t need to be slower.

I’ve thought of an exercycle- watch TV and peddle. I can’t afford a decent one. Plus I like my run. I’ve caught up the kms and up to date. 20kms in 1:41’56”. Actually did the second 10kms in 50 mins… quicker. 11.77km/h average speed. Running at maybe 90% effort. Who knows.

Anyway- you seem like a bright enough spark so I’m sure you know exactly what you’re doing.
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June 23, 2013 9:51pm
Kea

LRC, yes I was only talking about what works best for me. I found more frequent running at a reduced pace did not get the same results and a couple of harder runs with more intensity. I try not to time all my runs now days and have easy ones as the mood strikes me.

The main thing is to get out there and do it. Running is an individual and personal thing. Even in a race you are really running against yourself.

I must say I am getting a bit stiff and creaky after that long run up the mountain today. What was I thinking ! 🙂
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June 23, 2013 10:14pm
cha

hmm…..

Russia’s ITAR-Tass news agency, citing an unidentified Aeroflot official, said Snowden would fly from Moscow to Cuba on Monday and then take a flight to Caracas, Venezuela.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/snowden-says-us-targets-included-china-cell-phones
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June 23, 2013 10:24pm
Kea

joana , I agree with your comments regarding the Chinese. It does sound like you know what you are talking about there.
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June 23, 2013 10:41pm
Manolo

This beast will spend a few weeks in prison before being releases. Courtesy of the NZ justice system.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10892362
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June 24, 2013 6:38am
Manolo

You ought to be mad to visit that shit hole and failed nation: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/06/23/gunmen-kill-11-foreign-tourists-in-pakistan/
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June 24, 2013 6:59am
joana

Thanks Kea…
My motto of many years back..”Experience is the ONLY teacher.” I saw , witnessed , heard and heard of , the most horrendous child abuse for all the years I lived there. I could do very little about it because of the fear of retribution on my own family such as acid in my face, acid in my son’s face or my son’s kidnapping , harm to my parents in law etc..I once counted forty bruises on a little boy’s legs. I remember the spine chilling day when he cried his eyes out in my car and said “No one is ever going to rescue me from my mother.” I think up until then , he may have thought that I was going to be able to rescue him..He was the most darling little boy..He spent much of his time at our place..When he was locked inside at home by himself with no food, my son and I would go and pass food through the grilled door for him..If I could have brought him home in my suitcase I would have done so..
This reminds me that on other occasions , I took food to starving maids who were on minimal rations and minimal pay slaving day and night for their super wealthy Chinese ”owners.”
Then I came back to NZ to hear such silly tosh as..”Asians are SO tender with their children.”
Spare me , spare my born days.
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June 24, 2013 8:50am
jcuk

HI … today it is the Chinese who work hard and well … when I arrived in NZ sixty years ago it was the Dutch and to a lesser degree the English .. meanwhile the Kiwi just moans and booses.
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June 24, 2013 8:51am
joana

Why are you still here? Sixty years in NZ and not an ounce of gratitude. You would never have passed my immigration test.
You have not integrated. You have not settled well..You have very serious character flaws in your sixties..What a shame…..for NZ I mean.
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