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hamnidaV2

Worthless Tory scum:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/8621708/Apology-over-MPs-flare-up-in-restaurant
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May 2, 2013 8:01am
Pete George

Claims that just returned Aaron Gilmore got pissed and was a dickhead when he was at Hamner Springs for National Party’s mainland region conference.

It may or may not have been much, although a friend offered a written apology for Gilmore’s behaviour.

A lawyer friend of Christchurch-based MP Aaron Gilmore was so embarrassed by the politician’s behaviour after a bottle and a half of wine that he wrote an apology to hotel staff.

Riches last night confirmed he left the note for the waiter, saying he did so because he felt Gilmore had been “a bit rude” and he felt “a bit embarrassed by what happened”.

The Press understands the note apologised on behalf of Gilmore for his “appalling” conduct and congratulated the waiter on his professionalism.

But it sounds like Gilmore is ducking and diving from any responsibility. Not a good look for him or for National.

He needs to step up with a decent apology. So far it seems Aaron Gilmore – dickhead unapologetic
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May 2, 2013 8:08am
Lance

Ham-n-eggs v2
You are wrong.

That is not a story about British politicians.
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May 2, 2013 8:09am
jaba

watching Barcelona being dorked .. who would have thought it would get this bad?
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May 2, 2013 8:18am
iMP

MP GILMORE, the invisible completely unknown Nat among Canterbury Nats who was so committed to Chch he moved to Wellington. Only selected by default – with no other nominees – because all the other worthy, seasoned, hard-won nominees were fighting the Selwyn nomination (round 2). Never even gave a speech, no selection, no contest. A travesty. Quite why the Regional Leadership of National arranged this timing was unknown, but Aaron Gilmore was never “selected” by the party membership in Canterbury.

Given a List place by de fault (twice) and can’t even stump up to the Regional Conf. dinner. List Mps, what a croc.
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May 2, 2013 8:18am
UglyTruth

The connection between the Tamerlan Tsarnaev and the CIA
http://www.madcowprod.com/2013/04/29/uncle-ruslan-aid-to-terrorists-from-cia-officials-home/
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May 2, 2013 8:18am
Redbaiter

Tories- what a fucking joke.

If there were some true Tories in National they might amount to something more as a political party other than a shallow and weak seat warmer for the far left.
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May 2, 2013 8:21am
joana

The Port Hills groper is appearing in court again today. If you haven’t heard of the Port Hills groper it will be because his offending is being seriously played down in the media. He has sexually assaulted fifteen women, yes fifteen women. He has had continued name suppression and continuing bail. He breached his bail conditions yesterday but was granted bail again.When the Press write anything about him , their articles are all about he and his families concerns..I cannot say his victims have received scant mention for they have received no mention at all..CHCH is a great place for outdoor activity..How many of these women are still running and walking on these tracks? When are their rights and the rights of all CHCH women ever going to matter? Any bets on whether this monster will get home detention today?
And why is he getting such favourable treatment in the courts and in the media.?? Because he is muslim , a refugee and probably a Somalian. Where are the one law for all types when you need them??
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May 2, 2013 8:23am
peterwn

Anyone else been stung for a $5 ‘Direct Debit setup fee’ when purchasing Mighty River Power shares online. Might pay to check your internet banking.
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May 2, 2013 8:26am
Manolo

Surrendering to the homos: http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/8620167/Tui-removes-controversial-billboard
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May 2, 2013 8:31am
Manolo

And he works for Australian Defence Academy! He should join Don Borrie and his nutters, instead:

You can even pick up Kylie Minogue or David Beckham-branded perfume in the shops, despite the fact barely anyone knows who they are. Tom and Jerry is on TV, mobile phones and foreign cars are popular in Pyongyang. And in his view, the people certainly aren’t scared or deprived.

http://www.news.com.au/world-news/what-if-were-wrong-about-north-korea/story-fndir2ev-1226631780873
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May 2, 2013 8:37am
liarbors a joke

@peterwn

No, I haven’t..what bank are you with ?
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May 2, 2013 9:01am
Judith

I am all for victims rights – their concerns must be paramount, but I am getting somewhat suspicious of these historical cases coming to light against so many celebrities.

It will be interesting to see just what evidence is produced after such an lengthy amount of time.

It seems no one is immune at present in the UK. “Ken Barlow” the latest – they’ll have to close Coro Street down before too long.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/8622699/Ken-Barlow-charged-with-two-counts-of-rape
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May 2, 2013 9:02am
Manolo

The resident man-hater and avowed feminist would be incensed: http://www.spectator.co.uk/australia/australia-features/8897101/welcome-to-uglytopia/
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May 2, 2013 9:04am
liarbors a joke

Anyone who watches Coro st is without brain…
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May 2, 2013 9:05am
Dirty Rat

abusive after only a bottle and a half of wine ?

Yup, we may not know who you are, but we know what you are.

And Bayern….who’d have guess that ?
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May 2, 2013 9:08am
kowtow

joanna

The media always treat refugees/muslims /minorities with a degree of temerity.

It proves they discriminate.Why? Lots of reasons.Fear of being labelled racist , their promotion of multiculturalism,hatred of the west ……

When you look at what our relatively small numbers of refugees have got up to:

hijacking plane,stabbing in the street,this case……..that’s just what we know,one has to ask who is selecting them and how .
Don’t the citizens and taxpayers of New Zealand deserve better?

In light of the Boston outrage this country needs to reassess where we accept refugees from.
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May 2, 2013 9:14am
OneTrack

hamnidaV2 (190) Says:
May 2nd, 2013 at 8:01 am
Worthless Tory scum:

Must be about time for a comment including “neolibs” isn’t it? Haven’t heard that one for a while.

Maybe I just missed it while I scrolling through looking for someone with something intelligent to say.
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May 2, 2013 9:14am
WineOh

As a wine lover, I find this totally abhorrent:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/hawkes-bay/8613358/Wine-valued-at-165-000-gone

Some total butt-munch has deliberately opened up the bottom of the tank and emptied 6,000 liters of merlot onto the ground.
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May 2, 2013 9:15am
kowtow

pete george that’s haNmer springs .

At least Aaron was pissed when he made a dickhead of himself ,what’s your excuse?
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May 2, 2013 9:16am
OneTrack

Judith (2,346) Says:
May 2nd, 2013 at 9:02 am

“It seems no one is immune at present in the UK. “Ken Barlow” the latest – they’ll have to close Coro Street down before too long. ”

I think it’s called a witchhunt.
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May 2, 2013 9:17am
WineOh

Isn’t Hanmer Springs famous for its drug & alcohol rehabilitation centre? Irony, much!?
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May 2, 2013 9:21am
Judith

liarbors a joke (537) Says:
May 2nd, 2013 at 9:05 am

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I don’t actually watch it – but it is an old institution that seems to be having a hard time of it.

Just one point though, one needs a brain in order to ‘see’ – therefore your comment doesn’t make sense – no one can ‘watch’ anything, without one. 🙂
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May 2, 2013 9:21am
Judith

OneTrack (376) Says:
May 2nd, 2013 at 9:17 am

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Yes, you could be right – its not hard to imagine the benefits for some in being included in the pitchfork brigade. I hope there is some rationality applied. It is very sad to see these actors who have been around for years involved in this – if there is no truth in what is being said.
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May 2, 2013 9:23am
Carlos

The List of Communist Goals from 1963. Some of them have been and are being reached.

From “The Naked Communist,” by Cleon Skousen (Note: Cleon Skousen wasn’t the most liked man in America)

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev’s promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.”

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a “religious crutch.”

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the “big picture.” Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture–education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use [“]united force[“] to solve economic, political or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.
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May 2, 2013 9:26am
sbk

“port hill groper”…15 victims !…the victims,also victims of politics? ..15 suffer long term emotional/physical harm…and the system bends over backwards so that the one “doing” doesnt feel so bad…and what do you get…”14 more victims”…it is a damn shame we cant sue the arse off the(self-censored).
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May 2, 2013 9:32am
gravedodger

@ Winoh 9 28 The Hanmer clinic closed down 10 years ago but there are other options.

Sadly they cant be covered up by “spending a few weeks at the Hanmer pools!”
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May 2, 2013 9:38am
liarbors a joke

Dont be silly Judith..
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May 2, 2013 10:00am
iMP

The Aaron Gilmore debacle, an insight into National’s failing processes.

http://conzervative.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/list-mps-and-national/
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May 2, 2013 10:00am
Redbaiter

Carlos- too many of those goals have been reached, but let’s pretend none of it is happening, otherwise the screeching communists who control our media and education systems will be deeply offended.
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May 2, 2013 10:03am
Carlos

@ Redbaiter

Yeah, number 20 and 21 stood out instantly to me for NZ and most Western countries.
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May 2, 2013 10:05am
Pete George

Another non-apology:

Aaron Gilmore ‏@aarongilmore

I’ve apologised again for any offence that may have been taken from the behaviour of my group and I that a waiter may have received on Sat.

Not good enough.

Toby Manhire: “which frankly amounts to a fraction rather less than half-arsed”
http://www.listener.co.nz/commentary/the-internaut/aaron-gilmore-and-the-non-apology-apology/

A large fraction less.
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May 2, 2013 10:33am
Pete George

Unbelievable, Gilmore has released a Media Statement which is still closer to half arsed than anything.

https://twitter.com/felixmarwick/status/329725126369243136/photo/1
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May 2, 2013 10:40am
krazykiwi

PG – I agree.

Why doesn’t he just say “Look, I was a goat. No excuses. I apologise unreservedly to [waiters name] for my offensive behaviour. I’d like to make a $100 donation to a charity of [waiters name]’s choosing.”.

More integrity would be created than lost in my view.
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May 2, 2013 10:48am
liarbors a joke

Doesn’t get much worse..good riddance to the filth :http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/8622861/Baby-rapist-put-to-death
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May 2, 2013 10:50am
publicwatchdog

Good moaning Kiwibloggers 🙂

Seen this?

Penny Bright
‘Anti-Corruption campaigner / anti-privatisation’ campaigner

2013 Auckland Mayoral candidate.
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2 May 2013

Press Release: Sue Henry Spokesperson for the Housing Lobby

“Say NO to democracy for salivating property developers.”

“There will never be positive advancements for the public majority of the Auckland region as long as we have political party ticket monopolies sitting in the Council Chamber,” says Sue Henry Spokesperson, for the Housing Lobby

“The faces may change ever three years while both party tickets play ‘pass the parcel’ and bulldoze through the failed ideology of housing intensification from the 2004 ‘Central Sector Agreement’ and former ARC ‘Regional Policy Statement’ .

“It is scandalous the way both tickets have extended this housing intensification proposal deep into the heart of well-established residential areas, ignoring vigorous community opposition,” she continues.

“We need a fresh approach away from slums and leaky chilly-bin houses.

Whose interests are being served?

The public majority or salivating property developers?”

Sue Henry
Spokesperson for the Housing Lobby
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May 2, 2013 11:01am
Griff

Flipper ya nutter come and play for a bit 😆 I would just like to walk you though this little bit of your statement yesterday and explain a little reality to your stupid little brain.

flipper (1,561) Says:
May 1st, 2013 at 10:38 am

Hi Judith..
Yours was a thoughtful comment on the DAGW BS. The only problem is that not ONE, not one single scientist of world repute, subscribes to the DAGW scam.

I could go on, but instead defer to my friend and colleague in the UK, Rupert. C. E. Wyndham, who just last month admonished the President of the UK Royal Society in no uncertain terms. I quote from his letter to Paul Nurse:

Can you please explain for me if the president of the royal society is not of world scientific repute who is? This bloke Rupert. C. E. Wyndham apparently has the authority to confront him on science who the fuck is Rupert. C. E. Wyndham?
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May 2, 2013 11:06am
Pete George

Yes kk, exactly, but he keeps digging. Here’s the text of his statement:

Aaron Gilmore
National Party MP

Media Statement

2 May 2013

MP Aaron Gilmore apologises

National List MP Aaron Gilmore is this morning apologising to staff and patrons at the Heritage Hotel Hamner Springs following a dinner he atended there on Saturday 27 April.

“As a group of diners our behaviour was at times boisterous and I sincerely apologise for any offence this may have caused any staff and/or patrons”, Mt Gilmore said.

“I intend to convey my apologies on behalf of the group to hotel staff and understand that Members of Parliament should uphold, and be seen to uphold, the highest of standards at all times”.

“On this occasion I believe as a group, our behaviour fell short of this mark, and I should have recognised this at the time”.

“I also plan to pass my apologies on to the Prime Minister for failing to meet the standards I believe National MP’s should uphold.

That still fails to meet the standard expected of a decent and properly sincere apology.
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May 2, 2013 11:09am
krazykiwi

Are you 4Real: New Zealand says no to bizarre baby names

New Zealand officials have released a list of baby names put forward by parents that were rejected because they were too bizarre or offensive, including Lucifer and Mafia No Fear.

The list of 77 names reveals one child was set to be called Anal before the Department of Internal Affairs vetoed the proposal, while another narrowly avoided being dubbed . or full stop.

Other names on the list included 4Real, V8, and Queen Victoria.

In some cases, parents appeared to have lost any inspiration for coming up with a moniker for their offspring, wanting to call the latest addition to the family simply 2nd, 3rd or 5th.

The department’s rules forbid any name that might imply a child holds an official title or rank, so King, Duke and Princess were among those that had been turned down most since 2001.

Justice was the most popular, having been rejected 62 times, although Justus and Juztice also failed to gain official approval.

In 2008, New Zealand’s family court ordered that a nine-year-old girl whose parents had called her Talula Does The Hula From Hawaii should have her name changed because it was embarrassing and “makes a fool of the child”.

At the time, judge Rob Murfitt criticised parents who gave their children bizarre names, citing examples such as Number 16 Bus Shelter, Midnight Chardonnay and twins called Benson and Hedges.
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May 2, 2013 11:13am
liarbors a joke

Breath through ya nose Pete George..s-l-o-w-l-y ..through ya nose..
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May 2, 2013 11:30am
hmmokrightitis

This needs wider publishing and debate. http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/dear-ird-how-save-1-billion-ck-139462

I have the opportunity next week to discuss with a senior minister as part of some work I do in the wider IT sector. Ive already made the relevant Ministers aware of the stupidity of spending $1.5B on this project. Please, can we for once has some smart people in a room to understand that massive IT projects dont work?

Im not a Rod D fan by any stretch, but in this case he’s right. Oh, and in Xero as well, of which Im a happy little camper shareholder 🙂
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May 2, 2013 12:05pm
HB

I have taught two different boys called versions of Justice – Justyce and Justus from memory. My daughter goes to school with a girl whose name is Princess.

Did the rules change in 2001?
“among those that had been turned down most since 2001.”
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May 2, 2013 12:10pm
Colville

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/8622792/Boy-5-kills-sister-with-his-gun

Parents give a 5 yr old a gun for his birthday.
Parent is supervising child “play” with gun in kitchen.
Turns out gun is loaded at the time of all this.
Shoots sister dead.
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May 2, 2013 12:16pm
iMP

Are the growing number of potential by-elections (three likely on the table over next six months) likely to force an earlier Gen. Election?

http://conzervative.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/will-we-have-an-early-election/
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May 2, 2013 12:17pm
Griff

Constitution review panel
http://www.cap.govt.nz/The-Panel

This is the most important question on our political landscape.
Why is there so little debate over this on kb? Why no interest in debating where our country goes in the next decades?

Does it have any thing to do with a lack of faith in the process? apathy?

Or is it because we are excluded by choice from the real reason for the panels existence To forward maori tribal claims on our society.

There are twelfth panelist with the following biased towards treaty style “partnership” apartheid.
http://www.cap.govt.nz/The-Panel

Sir Tipene O’Regan : (Co-chair) (Ngāi Tahu)
Hon Sir Michael Cullen : principal Treaty Claims negotiator for Ngāti Tūwharetoa.
Hon John Luxton : He has expertise in Crown-Māori relations and community connections. Mr Luxton has experience in co-management, as co-chair of the Waikato River Authority and representing farming,
Dr Leonie Pihama (Te Ātiawa, Ngā Māhanga a Tairi, Ngāti Māhanga)
Hinurewa Poutu (Ngāti Rangi, Te Āti Haunui a Pāpārangi, Ngāti Maniapoto)
Professor Linda Tuhiwai Smith (Ngāti Awa, Ngāti Porou)
Peter Tennent : Mr Tennent was pivotal in rejuvenating New Plymouth economically, socially, environmentally and culturally – negotiating with all parties to find a pathway forward from significant historical issues
Dr Ranginui Walker (Te Whakatōhea)

Eight involved in maori toughing and apartheid aspirations .
Maori are around twelfth of the population with the tribal types who vote MP or manaless making up less than 2.5 % of the vote..
Why are they given such a large part in the review in the process to govern us all ?

I dont think we will see a palatable out come from this exercise but I do think that apartheid claims on our future will be well seeded into Maoridom as a result of the biased conversation this panel represents.

http://www.nzcpr.com/petition_EqualRights.php
We, New Zealanders of all backgrounds, having founded and developed our society in equality, fairness, and comradeship, oppose any laws which establish or promote racial distinction or division.
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May 2, 2013 12:19pm
Fletch

If you want to read real hate speech, check this out –

“We MUST vigorously support the continuing efforts to expose pathologically anti-gay, Islamaphobic, and rabidly intolerant agitators for what they are: die-hard enemies of the United States Constitution. Monsters, one and all. To do anything less would be to roll out a red carpet to those who would usher in a blood-drenched, draconian era of persecutions, nationalistic militarism, and superstitious theocracy.”

If these fundamentalist Christian monsters of human degradation, marginalization, humiliation and tyranny cannot broker or barter your acceptance of their putrid theology, then they crave for your universal silence in the face of their rapacious reign of theocratic terror. Indeed, they ceaselessly lust, ache, and pine for you to do absolutely nothing to thwart their oppression. Comply, my friends, and you, too, become as monstrously savage as are they. I beg you, do not feed these hideous monsters with your stoic lethargy, callousness and neutrality. Do not lubricate the path of their racism, bigotry, and prejudice. Doing so directly threatens the national security of our beautiful nation.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-l-weinstein/fundamentalist-christian-_b_3072651.html

He also says Christians–including chaplains–sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ in the military are guilty of “treason,” and of committing an act of “spiritual rape” as serious a crime as “sexual assault.”

And who is saying that? Why, it’s Mikey Weinstein, founder of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF) and the new advisor to the Pentagon as regards their religious tolerance policy. As a result, anyone in the U.S Armed Forces who speaks about Christ to another soldier could be court marshalled. A statement from the Pentagon confirms it. I can almost picture the guy speaking in German in front of a huge crowd and slamming his fist down on a lectern.

I guess it’s like the new Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy, only targeting Christians.

America is destroying itself from the inside-out.
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May 2, 2013 12:25pm
Manolo

The list looks like the who is who of Stone Agedom.
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May 2, 2013 12:28pm
Griff

Just for you Manolo
http://www.cap.govt.nz/store/images/Leonie_Pihama.jpg
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May 2, 2013 12:42pm
Manolo

Isn’t she lovely, slim, delicate and refined? Beaut.
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May 2, 2013 12:45pm
Manolo

Griff, why didn’t you buy one?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-05-01/electric-car-maker-coda-files-for-bankruptcy-to-seek-sale-1-.html
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May 2, 2013 12:48pm
Griff

Because electric cars are a waste of space.
You have to power them with electricity you would have to generate massive amounts to transfer any significant amount of private transport to plug in. This capacity would be built in coal stations because they are cheap Hence more co2.

And because I have a fetish for 2.5 l engines four strokev6 quadcam, two stroke petrol v6 efi and 353 two stroke diesel
I much prefer this to my last picture
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NRaqgab0_w
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May 2, 2013 1:07pm
kowtow

That White House seems to like to have a bob each way.

http://www.freep.com/article/20130411/NEWS/304110175/Revered-U-S-Army-chaplain-Emil-Kapaun-receives-Medal-Honor-posthumously
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May 2, 2013 1:17pm
Fletch

Yelp* is finally in NZ.
It’s kind of a site where Kiwis can review businesses and services.
It’s already in 21 countries worldwide.
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May 2, 2013 1:26pm
Manolo

The long arm of the vile religion of peace: http://travel.msn.co.nz/travelnews/8651627/airline-bans-red-lipstick-on-hostesses
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May 2, 2013 2:18pm
Sofia

Griff – Constitutional review panel

The total ignore with which this is treated lies that in, apart from the bias of the panel, nothing has emerged yet that anyone can commend or attack. It is as nebulous as the topics it supposedly addresses.
The ad campaign is equally vague, fronted by a supposed Maori comic speaking pidgin English and yet another sports personality.
It exists only as a result of National pandering to a Maori Party coalition $4 million demand and aims to fix something not necessarily broken.

More note may be taken when a cooked-up finding urges enshrining the Treaty of Waitangi – a fucking badly-written 173 year-old real estate agreement – as the foundation of a ‘new’s New Zealand Constitution.
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May 2, 2013 2:19pm
Griff

I dont think we will see a palatable out come from this exercise but I do think that apartheid claims on our future will be well seeded into Maoridom as a result of the biased conversation this panel represents.

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/133813/young-maori-input-%27important%27-to-constitutional-review

A Massey University lecturer says it is important that young Maori are involved in the review of New Zealand’s constitution.

A government-appointed advisory panel is reviewing it.

Veronica Tawhai, who specialises in Maori Development, was part of a forum about the review broadcast by Radio New Zealand on Sunday.

Ms Tawhai says Maori youth will get involved with the consultation process if they can discuss the efforts of their ancestors to contribute to the constitution.

She says her research shows rangitahi are not interested in factors such as how often they are able to vote.

However, Ms Tawhai says they are inspired by a wider, more indepth discussion about the history of the country.
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May 2, 2013 2:33pm
Fletch

Boston police have taken 3 more suspects into custody re: the bombing. Friends of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev who helped him, and hid his backback. Glenn Beck has scans of the police affidavits on his web site.
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May 2, 2013 2:46pm
cha

Rather than dirty yourself –

http://www.wcvb.com/blob/view/-/19970892/data/1/-/10qtpfy/-/Complaint-against-Azamat-Tazhayakov-and-Dias-Kadyrbayev.pdf

http://www.wcvb.com/blob/view/-/19970952/data/1/-/64igv4/-/Complaint-against-Robel-Phillipos.pdf
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May 2, 2013 3:10pm
kowtow

manolo

Reference the Useful Idiot Aus Prof in NKorea,Orwell was so prophetic with the full bins trick in Animal Farm.

Turkey and lipstick. So many people try hard to make excuses for “secular Turkey”.It’s never been secular. It’s always been Kemalist ,which was always Sunni. It’s just never been so overtly Islamic. Now the Kemalists’ lid has been lifted the true nature of Muslim Turkey re emerges.

EU membership next?No shortage of Cameron types who are all for it!
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May 2, 2013 3:40pm
graham

Don’t know if this has already been mentioned, but now it’s Minto for Mayor!

http://mana.net.nz/2013/05/minto-throws-his-hat-in-the-ring-for-mana-in-auckland-mayoral-race/
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May 2, 2013 5:31pm
nasska

Back during the days of the Soviet Union, it took ten years
to get a car after you paid for one.

Once, a young guy went to the car dealership to order a car.
He paid the money, and the asked when can he come and get
the car.

“It will be here, waiting for you, exactly ten years from
today”.

The man signed the papers, started walking away and then
stopped, turned and asked the salesman: “Wait, will it be
ready at the morning or at the afternoon”.

“What difference does it make?”, asked the salesman.

“Well”, answered the man, “the plumber is coming in
the morning”.
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May 2, 2013 8:00pm
Tauhei Notts

Imagine Len Brown losing to Maurice Williamson at the next Auckland mayoral election. Len must have a suitable speech just in case he loses. Len is lucky; I have penned that speech for him. It goes as follows.
“I am reminded of that great All Black Peter Jones who commented after the 1956 test match against the Springboks at Eden Park here in our great city;
I’m buggered”
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May 2, 2013 8:45pm
nasska

Accompanied by an orgy of face slapping would be my best bet Tauhei. 🙂
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May 2, 2013 8:48pm
publicwatchdog

Ok Kiwibloggers – here you go……… 🙂

I think it’s a good thing that John Minto is standing as an Auckland Mayoral candidate – he will be able to promote Mana policies which will help focus on the most vulnerable of the 99%.

That will also help to raise the profile of Mana, and their policies before the 2014 General Election.

As I did in 2010 as an Auckland Mayoral candidate – I will be focusing on how the $upercity has been a corrupt corporate coup – and how to take back the Auckland region from the control of the 1%.

http://www.3news.co.nz/Protestors-Minto-Bright-to-run-for-mayoralty/tabid/1607/articleID/296315/Default.aspx

I tried to warn you folks as an Auckland Mayoral candidate in 2010 – that the Auckland $upercity would be a SUPER RIPOFF – a super public trough, for fewer but bigger private snouts.

Where was I wrong?

Have YOUR rates gone UP or DOWN?
_____________________________________________________________________________________________

Why I stood as an Auckland Mayoral candidate in 2010:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10673942

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/video.cfm?c_id=1&gal_objectid=10673942&gallery_id=113947
_______________________________________________________________________________________________

AUCKLAND MAYORAL CAMPAIGN 2013:

ACTION PLAN against ‘white collar’ crime, corruption and ‘corporate welfare’

http://www.dodgyjohnhasgone.com/action-plan-to-prevent-corruption/

Proven track record, as a successful Occupy Auckland Appellant (in my own name) in fighting the corporate 1% who run the Auckland region, ‘like a business – for business’:

EVIDENCE in the following High Court document – exposing the role of the unelected Committee for Auckland, of which the CEO for Auckland Council, Doug McKay is a member.

(So – whose interests is he serving?
The majority of citizens and ratepayers – or his corporate mates?)

http://www.occupyaucklandvsaucklandcouncilappeal.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/OCCUPY-AUCKLAND-APPEAL-APPLICATION-BY-APPELLANT-BRIGHT-TO-ADDUCE-NEW-EVIDENCE-pdf.pdf

There is more …………… LOTS more to come …………….

Cheers!

Penny Bright
‘Anti-corruption / anti-privatisation’ campaigner

2013 Auckland Mayoral candidate

PS: My defended hearing in the above-mentioned Court case on the charge of ‘willful trespass’ for occupying John Banks electoral office on 18 June 2013 – has been adjourned until 27 September 2013 🙂
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May 2, 2013 9:07pm
Johnboy

Shave your armpits Penny. The Judge may show you more mercy than the voters of JafaLand did! 🙂
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May 2, 2013 9:15pm
Graeme2

Griff (4,685) Says:
May 2nd, 2013 at 12:19 pm
Constitution review panel

Griff you left out Debra Coddington married to treaty lawyer Colin Corruthers. I heard her on Radio Live with willie Jackson a while back and it was obvious that she wasn’t really interested in any views that may be different from her own.

The whole process is flawed as you rightly point out it really is time that people woke up.
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May 2, 2013 9:43pm
KevinH

There will be ample opportunity for the public including those here on KB to contribute towards the constitutional debate once the commissions findings are made public for discussion. It will be interesting to see who steps up to make their views known.
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May 2, 2013 10:01pm
Kea

She says her research shows rangitahi are not interested in factors such as how often they are able to vote.

Great. Lets not waste their precious time. No voting for the “rangitahi” and scrap the Maori seats and all other electoral representation. That should make them happy.
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May 2, 2013 10:11pm
Dirty Rat

As a former Bittorrent Geek and now Spotify paying addict, I have just bought my first CD in years. Phoenix Foundation – Fandango…..tis pretty fucking good ( okay Kiwi music month had something to do with it).
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May 2, 2013 10:20pm
Viking2

Garrets Law.

Is this fellow going down full time?

Three-strikes warning a first for Bay of Plenty
5:49 PM Thursday May 2, 2013

Anthony Jay Tukaki, 38, was given the warning in Tauranga District Court.

A Waihi man who molested a teenage girl has been given his final “three-strikes” warning – the first offender living in the Bay to receive one.

Driver Anthony Jay Tukaki, 38, was given the warning in Tauranga District Court after he admitted one charge of burglary and two charges of sexual violation by unlawful sexual connection with a female aged between 12-16.

The offences occurred in February after Tukaki entered the 13-year-old’s bedroom during a visit to the property – he was not known to his victim.

Judge Peter Rollo remanded Tukaki in custody for sentencing on June 17 after giving him the final warning, required because he received his first warning in 2011 for an indecent assault committed in June 2010.

The final three-strikes warning means he becomes the 18th person in the country who will have to serve his inevitable prison sentence without parole.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/crime/news/article.cfm?c_id=30&objectid=10881099

Some people never learn.
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May 3, 2013 7:03am
Manolo

Picking losers and crooks: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/02/commerce-nominee-tangled-in-massive-bank-collapse-that-cost-depositors-millions/
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May 3, 2013 7:55am
Judith

Viking2 (9,339) Says:
May 3rd, 2013 at 7:03 am
Some people never learn.
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Which is why the 3 Strike law will only work to a small degree in that it removes those offenders from the community for a longer period of time.

It will never serve as a deterrent because by time most of these offenders get to committing serious offences that warrant the 3 strikes warning, they are already habitual criminals and past taking such warnings in a rational manner.

I believe the attention should be targeted at their first offences, to prevent anymore and stop the habit forming. But most seem to prefer to wait for at least two more innocent victims before doing that.

I also strongly disagree with keeping an offender in prison for an extended period of time, and then releasing them at the end of the sentence without any supervision in the community. When they were released on parole there were several things that can be done to ensure they watched and supervised and if need be recalled to prison (like we saw recently with ‘the beast’).

If we imprison someone for 14 years, and then just open the doors and release them into the community and not be able to supervise them by law, we are just asking for trouble.
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May 3, 2013 8:09am
joana

When is Garrett going to start stumping up for his law? or is the personal responsibility thing just another part time hobby?
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