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liarbors a joke

gee..no Pete George sermon..
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April 27, 2013 8:09am
Andrei

College sports are promoting “rape culture” apparently.
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April 27, 2013 8:09am
All_on_Red

Interesting new book out called the “The Lucky Country by Nick Cater. His ideas could easily be applied to the situation in many countries including our own.
Cater’s thesis, formed during the 2010 election, is that Australia has become increasingly polarised, not between right and left, but between people he calls the insiders and the outsiders.
A new ruling class of university-educated “progressives”, “sophisticates”, “elites” and “latte-sippers” have emerged as an un-Australian clique trying to lord it over everyone else. Controlling media, law, education and the political class, they threaten Australia’s great egalitarian democratic project: “For the first time there were people who did not simply feel better off but were better than their fellow Australians. They were cosmopolitan and sophisticated, well read (or so they would have us believe) and politically aware. This was not the classless society I had signed up to join.”
Link to the interview here.
http://video.theaustralian.com.au/2380588030/The-Lucky-Culture-under-threat?area=videoindex1
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April 27, 2013 8:10am
Hodor

I, for one, am terrified of being raped by a cartoon husky
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April 27, 2013 8:46am
Pete George

It’s not just Greens who are exposed by Hughes’ “hey Clint” moment. Labour have a serious communication problem. Their obsession with repetitive media managed messages delivered by bland bodgies threatens their existence as a political power.

Their vapid messengers have become as appealing as a flat beer. Labour’s fizz has all but evaporated.

And Grant Robertson, who is leading the defence of Labour’s power policy, has posted another party parroting piece that closes with a corny attempt at recruiting support.

Shearer’s poor communication is legendary, David Parker is a wowsery wonk, and further down the list one camn only lament. Labour have serious communication and personality deficits.

Labouring with political vapidity
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April 27, 2013 8:58am
Right of way is Way of Right

I’ve had it up to the back teeth, I really have. It’s time for a rant.

This bunch of sycophantic, ego driven, ethically bereft idiots known as the opposition have to start thinking about what the hell they actually stand for! They need to think about who they actually represent, and if they really want to have a crack at the treasury benches (God forbid), then they have to start being honest and open with the electorate. However they are so blinded by ideology and so hungry for power that they will do anything to get there, including ruining our economy to do so.

I look at facebook, and the media, and I see page after page of idiocy, post after post from people, some who I actually know and count as friends, who have drunk at the tit of the mainstream media, and have decided that this National Government is the worst thing to ever happen to the country. These people need to wake the fuck up!

We are struggling, but it’s not nearly as bad as it could have been. We are placing ourself at the forefront of the economic recovery, and we are about to ride the crest of a wave. We need the cash to do this, and the asset sales programme is the ideal way to do it. We do not need power companies or banks, we need schools, hospitals, police. That’s what this is about.

Ask anyone who has been on a hospital waiting list how much the system has improved, because it has! That’s why you almost never hear the opposition spokesman on health talk about anything, because there is nothing to talk about.

Yes, there is room for improvement, but we have a Government with sufficient fiscal responsibility to know that they cannot wave a magic wand and make it all happen, this has to be gradual. Yes, we are borrowing, but we are also creating infrastructure, which is a damn sight more than the last lot managed. All their budget surpluses were spent buying votes. We had 9 years of fiscal surpluses, yet transmission gully was never built, and where were the communications upgrades?

If we end up with a Labour Green coalition in parliament, we will have three years of financial hell, and the baubles handed out to get the votes will be paid for by generations to come. We are still paying for the last lot!

So, what to do?

It’s time to mobilise. It’s time to get militant, it’s time to actually get out on the streets, in to the social media, and in to the world, and beat these useless bastards at their own game. When you see a post on facebook, challenge it! When you see a blog spouting bullshit, counter it, and do not let these idiots get any sort of tracttion at all. Stop reading the Herald, and start engaging with the world directly.

We need to do this, or the idiots will win, and all we will leave to our children is an everlasting legacy of debt, and the only option left to them will be to leave.

It is no coincidence that the immigration rate to Australia is slowing, in fact, they’re starting to come back.
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April 27, 2013 9:18am
iMP

Still road tripping around the Upper South island, but discovered where Parliament’s marble came from.

http://conzervative.wordpress.com/2013/04/27/highlight-of-trip-day-5-ngarua-caves-parliaments-marble/
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April 27, 2013 9:21am
RF

Right of way is way of Right. 9.18am

A very well written summary of the problems this country faces. Just watching the Nation on TV3 concerning the Nuclear ships issues. More lies from Labour that almost blew ANZUS out of the water.

I agree we need to give the left the same medicine they dish out to us.
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April 27, 2013 9:51am
OneTrack

“Labour have serious communication and personality deficits.”

No Pete, it is not the communication but the message itself that is the problem. They just don’t have any real policies. Policies that they have actually sat down and worked out including costs and where the money is going to come from. Power Aotearoa has all the characteristics of something that was worked out on the back of a beer coaster late one night in the Back Bencher. Same with CGT (or have they forgotten about that now), the detail just hadn’t been thought through. Actualy even the high level of hese two “thing” has not been thought through. They have been pandering to the media so long they only seem to think in sound bites.

Right of way – Well said. Agree completely.
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April 27, 2013 9:55am
Harriet

“The theme of the dinner, to be held in Washington, is a ‘Time for Care,’ organizers announced. Planned Parenthood President Cecile Richards said Mr. Obama has done more than any president in history for women’s health and rights so she is delighted to have him help promote the gala dinner with his presence.”

Wait, stop right there. Did you just read that? “Time for Care”? In what must be one of the most appalling cases of Orwellian Double Speak, these baby butchers are actually talking about care? I can just see Hitler and the Nazis holding an annual dinner, with the proud slogan, “Time for Care”. It would be just as appropriate for the Nazis to fling that phrase around as it would be for PP.

As former PP worker Abby Johnson has just written, “I just recently found out that Obama will keynote Planned Parenthood’s annual gala this year. It was at this event 4 years ago that I was given Planned Parenthood’s ‘Employee of the Year Award.’ I watched as Hillary Clinton received their ‘Margaret Sanger Award’…you know the woman who said her goal was ‘exterminate’ African-Americans. Anyway, now this year, they will give out the same award with our AFRICAN-AMERICAN President in attendance. And he will clap and be so proud of the work that Planned Parenthood boasts about.”

But since most readers know hardly anything about Sanger, let me simply offer a few quotes from her. They are fully representative of her work and beliefs, and are diabolical in the extreme:

“The most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.”

“The handicapped, including the blind, deaf, dumb, mute and epileptics, are the dead weight of human waste.”

“I cannot refrain from saying that women must come to recognize there is some function of womanhood other than being a child-bearing machine.”

http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2013/04/24/sanger-obama-and-evil/
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April 27, 2013 10:22am
lilman

Peter Dunne pissing on about speeding camera fines as revenue gathering.

WELL SLAP MY THIGH !!!!

Hey what about your car park and cell phone tax!

What a homo.
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April 27, 2013 10:23am
RF

Big Bruv.. I see you have been pinged for 2 weeks by I am a Prick over on the Standard. What a power hungry tosser. Reminds me of the “Mouse that roared”.
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April 27, 2013 10:28am
liarbors a joke

Peter Dung swings in the breeze..populist prostitute…away with you Dung..
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April 27, 2013 10:29am
kowtow

ROWIWOR

The problem is this National govt is not doing what you say needs to be done either .Yes they’re more fiscally responsible that the last lot but that is relative.

It’s not a question that they are great,it’s a matter of they are “less worse” and that is not good enough either.

The Nats openly support an ETS (global warming fallacy)
They are attacking private property with the anti tobacco legislation.
They have propped up and extended entrenched racism through support for the Maori Party
They have spent vast amounts of limited tax payer money on the grievance industry.
A significant proportion of the Nats support “absolute equality” in terms of gender/identity politics.
The partial asset sales are not being used to pay down debt,they are being wasted on social welfare.
Won’t mine so called national parks.

Schools ,hospitals and police must be paid for out of current expenditure ie taxes not out of borrowed or capital accounts.Otherwise we will end up like the socialist EU. But we’re not far off that anyway as we’ve been beggared by borrowing to keep everyone at a standard of living they have not earned.

That is the crux and National have not and will not address that as they won’t get re elected,they have become populist.

The real message is live within your means and earn your standard of living.But who will vote for that?
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April 27, 2013 10:37am
Harriet

A major aspect of this was how Planned Parenthood was making it clear that their real interest was not helping women – it was the bottom line. Making money through abortion was becoming the main focus, and of course the later the abortion, the more money was made.

When she was told her own clinic must start performing late-term abortions, she really was sent into a moral daze. All she got from her superiors when she complained that this was a nonprofit was the terse reply, “Abby, nonprofit is a tax status, not a business status”. She was ordered to get her priorities straight and get her revenue up.

The last straw was when she finally had to participate in an actual abortion. Strange as it may seem, for the eight years of her work there, she had not actually witnessed one. But when she was asked to help out, she got the shock of her life.

She held the ultrasound while the doctor joked “Beam me up, Scotty” as he rotated the cannula, a straw-shaped instrument attached to the end of a suction tube. She could “see the tiny body violently twisting with it. For the briefest moment it looked as if the baby were being wrung like a dishcloth, twirled and squeezed. And then the little body crumpled and began disappearing into the cannula before my eyes.”

She realised that she had “just participated in a death. A death. Not a medical procedure. Not a surgical solution to a life problem. Not the valiant step of a woman exercising her right to make medical choices about her own body. The death of a helpless baby, a baby violently ripped away from the safety of the womb, sucked away to be discarded as biohazard waste.”

All this burst her bubble, or rather, her steel cage that she had erected around herself. All the secrets, and guilt, and angst that she bottled up for years were now starting to pour forth. The scales fell from her eyes as she realised she had been believing lies and living a lie.

She realised that she was just as culpable in the deaths of countless babies. “I’d presented confused, anxious, and panicked women with their options – parent, abort, or adopt – as if we were discussing menu options.” She knew then and there that she had to get out of this career of death.

She went to the Coalition for Life offices and poured out her story while weeping uncontrollably. The stunned pro-lifers whom she had mocked and harassed for the last eight years at first did not know what to make of it all. But they loved her, comforted her, and told her they would help her in any way they could, such as finding new employment.

Of course this change of heart was considered treasonous by Planned Parenthood and the pro-death camp. They lied about her, abused her, and took legal action against her. Her pro-choice church also showed its true colours, making it clear that she was no longer wanted…………………………Simply to read the closing words is worth the price of the book. Abby now often stands on the other side of the fence, outside her old clinic, telling scared young women, “Hi, I’m Abby Johnson, and I used to run this clinic. We can help you”.
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April 27, 2013 10:38am
Fletch

BREAKING

Megyn Kelly is reporting on Fox now that the FBI believes there was a third bomber, according to the Pat Dollard website –

We’re working to get the video, but I wanted to get this up asap. Megyn Kelly and Catherine Herridge just reported that the FBI believes the Boston Marathon bombs were detonated by someone standing within line-of-sight of the bombs, using a cellphone, and that therefor they are now considering the possibility of a 3rd bomber. This adds some credence to Glenn Beck’s reporting on the Saudi, and also points out how much intel we have lost due to the cutting off of the interrogation of Djhokhar just 16 hours into what was legally supposed to be at least a 48 hour investigation.

http://patdollard.com/2013/04/breaking-megyn-kelly-reports-feds-now-believe-3rd-bomber-may-have-been-involved/
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April 27, 2013 10:42am
Pete George

OneTrack – it is both the message and the method they are getting wrong. It’s just as well, because if they had an effective communicator who people saw as genuine they would get a lot more traction with their policies.

But someone smart enough to ditch their message madness and communicate well would probably also be smart enough to ditch their policy madness.

Another of Labour’s problems (they have a few) is that they failed to rebuild lastv term and instead lost support. Instead of doing the hard yards working on rebuilding credibility and support they decided to try and co-opt the Green vote. This magnifies the media muppetry and magnifies voter wariness of mad economic policies.

Are Labour forever dependent on Greens? Some think so, but it depends on whether they can win next year, whether they can work together and whether they can retain voter support. Their poor communication makes hard tasks much more difficult.
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April 27, 2013 10:45am
cha

RIP George.

http://youtu.be/vY-epx63Dd8
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April 27, 2013 10:47am
Fletch

It looks like Obama failed to qualify on the Indiana ballot in 2008 for his run to the White House. Two Democrats have just been found guilty on all counts of fraud in faking petitions.

St. Joseph County Democratic party Chairman Butch Morgan Jr. was found guilty of felony conspiracy counts to commit petition fraud and forgery, and former county Board of Elections worker Dustin Blythe was found guilty of felony forgery counts and falsely making a petition, after being accused of faking petitions that enabled Obama, then an Illinois Senator, to get on the presidential primary ballot for his first run for the White House.

According to testimony from two former Board of Election officials who pled guilty, Morgan ordered Democratic officials and workers to fake the names and signatures that Obama and Clinton needed to qualify for the presidential race. Blythe, then a Board of Elections employee and Democratic Party volunteer, was accused of forging multiple pages of the Obama petitions.

The case raise questions about whether in 2008, then candidate Obama actually submitted enough legitimate signatures to have legally qualified for the primary ballot.

“I think had they been challenged successfully, he probably would not have been on the ballot,” Levco told Fox News.

Under state law, presidential candidates need to qualify for the primary ballots with 500 signatures from each of the state’s nine congressional districts. Indiana election officials say that in St. Joseph County, which is the 2nd Congressional district, the Obama campaign qualified with 534 signatures; Clinton’s camp had 704.

Prosecutors say that in President Obama’s case, nine of the petition pages were apparently forged. Each petition contains up to 10 names, making a possible total of 90 names, which, if faked, could have brought the Obama total below the legal limit required to qualify. Prosecutors say 13 Clinton petitions were apparently forged, meaning up to 130 possibly fake signatures. Even if 130 signatures had been challenged, it would have still left Mrs. Clinton with enough signatures to meet the 500 person threshold.

Levco said a total of “100 to 200” signatures had been forged on Obama’s and Clinton’s petitions.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/26/officials-found-guilty-in-obama-clinton-ballot-petition-fraud/#ixzz2Rbb2cOMM

Too late now though isn’t it? The ****** is president.
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April 27, 2013 10:48am
Kea

The White House says that United States President Barack Obama may approve of using military force against the Syrian government.

I guess this goes on top of the $300 million gifted to the radical Islamists attacking Syria with the goal of establishing Sharia law.

http://rt.com/usa/white-house-syria-force-463/

Obama Providing Al Qaeda-Led Syria Rebels $123 Million More In Aid, http://patdollard.com/2013/04/obama-administration-providing-syrian-rebels-123-million-more-in-aid/
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April 27, 2013 10:52am
niggly

Cater’s thesis, formed during the 2010 election, is that Australia has become increasingly polarised, not between right and left, but between people he calls the insiders and the outsiders.
A new ruling class of university-educated “progressives”, “sophisticates”, “elites” and “latte-sippers” have emerged as an un-Australian clique trying to lord it over everyone else. Controlling media, law, education and the political class, they threaten Australia’s great egalitarian democratic project: “For the first time there were people who did not simply feel better off but were better than their fellow Australians. They were cosmopolitan and sophisticated, well read (or so they would have us believe) and politically aware.

Would it be fair to say our Aussie cousins seem to be many years or decades behind us in finally recognising this?

Surely it would be fair to say difference is our post-war university-educated “progressives”, “sophisticates”, “elites” and “latte-sippers” took control of Labour in the early 80’s off the old guard and cemented that grip by the early nineties, to which they still hold significant sway.

Fortunatley as the new generations replace the old even this current guard are on the way out.
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April 27, 2013 11:06am
Fletch

cha, sad. I didn’t really know his stuff very well.
Do you think he looked a bit like Jim Carrey when he was younger?

Carrey would be a sure bet to play him in a biopic.
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April 27, 2013 11:06am
cha

Junior Brown for the part.

http://youtu.be/x_wLVCLPx0M
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April 27, 2013 11:12am
Manolo

RIP Shakuntala Devi, “the human calculator”. Check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU_FDnLFU9A
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April 27, 2013 11:18am
niggly

I look at facebook, and the media, and I see page after page of idiocy, post after post from people, some who I actually know and count as friends, who have drunk at the tit of the mainstream media, and have decided that this National Government is the worst thing to ever happen to the country. These people need to wake the fuck up!

We are struggling, but it’s not nearly as bad as it could have been. We are placing ourself at the forefront of the economic recovery, and we are about to ride the crest of a wave. We need the cash to do this, and the asset sales programme is the ideal way to do it.

Very well said (your whole post). Here we are in comfy NZ, we turn on the news and see parts of Europe rioting (Spanish youth unemployment 57%) and the Eurozone starting to crumble. But according to the MSM and Opposition the most important issue is John Key’s trust – WTF?

Initially the MSM (and a neutered Opposition to a degree) could see all this (2008-2011) but since the re-election of National both the MSM, CTU and Opposition are using propaganda to convince ordinary kiwis that this Govt is screwing them.

Like you I’ve had it to the back teeth, what planet are these so-called intelligensia on? La la land? Willing to gamble the current and future generations health, wealth and well-being on more borrowing and money printing?

If I were National I would take the fight to these muppets. For example, run their own election 2014 billboards with “saving the planet for future generations” and taking that mantra off the Greens.

The Greens future is an ideal place of preserved scenery and lovely and pristine – that’s for the future generation they say -off course that would be nice but the economy actually needs income to play for cleaning this all up and ensuring kiwis are well funded for health, jobs and education.

But as a nation we need to grow income, only the Right seem to have the know how. But you wouldn’t think so if you turned on the telly these days or read the MSM!
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April 27, 2013 11:20am
Andrei

The heavenly choir is rocking tonight Cha
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April 27, 2013 11:29am
Fletch

Andrei, yeh, so that’s George Jones, Bob Brozman, Richie Havens, and Chrissy Amphlett (from the Divinyls), all in just a week.
Also, gospel singer George Beverly Shea (who sung for Billy Graham) on April 16th.
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April 27, 2013 11:42am
kowtow

Syria

Yes looking at the news reports it certainly looks like the Obama White House is fishing around for an excuse to intervene more actively .

They don’t seem to have learned anything from the Iraq or Afghanistan interventions.
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April 27, 2013 11:47am
dime

cool. hope its quick with syria. a couple of days bombing the shit out of them will be fun. after that dime will get bored 🙁
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April 27, 2013 12:01pm
Kea

They don’t seem to have learned anything from the Iraq or Afghanistan interventions.

They supported Sadam, they supported the Islamic rebels in Afghanistan, and now the Islamic nutters trying to overthrow stable governments in the Middle East.

What the hell are they playing at ! I really have no idea.
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April 27, 2013 12:05pm
Lee01

Your right Kea, you have no idea. Your claims are based on shallow propaganda, not facts.
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April 27, 2013 12:12pm
Kea

Lee01, well now is your chance to put me right then. Tell me why the US is supporting some radical Muslims and murdering others ?

(Am I allowed to ask now the president is BLACK ? )
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April 27, 2013 12:28pm
Lee01

Kea,

The killing of our enemies in war is not murder.

Supporting one side of a conflict is sometimes a useful tactic.

The US support for Saddam during the Iran/Iraq war was minimal and largely rhetorical. Saddam was armed by Russia, China and France, not the US.

Saddam was a creation of the Soviet Union, not the US.

The Taliban are a creation if the Pakistani Secret Service not the US.

The mujahadeen that the US supported were largely north Afghani tribes who were pro-Western. Those tribes faught the Taliban takeover and supported the US invasion. Their leader was assassinated by Pakistan.

As I said, your facts are wrong as is your attempt at a moral critique of US actions post 911.
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April 27, 2013 12:59pm
Kea

Lee01, when did Afghanistan attack the USA ? I missed that ….

I wonder if your appetite for war would be the same if your family were the collateral damage ?
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April 27, 2013 1:01pm
F E Smith

A new ruling class of university-educated “progressives”, “sophisticates”, “elites” and “latte-sippers” have emerged as an un-Australian clique trying to lord it over everyone else.

Not just in Australia, but also in the UK and in NZ.

Look how many of our politicians have only ever been involved in party political work. This is especially true of the Labour party (from all three nations), but can also be seen in the Tories in the UK and in the Nats here.

What is it that makes so many people, never having run a business or been responsible for any significant budget previously, think that they are qualified to run the country?
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April 27, 2013 1:03pm
dime

lol @ kea
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April 27, 2013 1:04pm
F E Smith

One of the things that always amazes me is how so many people think that restrictive gun laws actually have any effect on the criminal elements. When I think of the clients that I have represented who have been charged with possession of firearms, none of them actually had a gun licence.

Which makes this from Powerlineblog all the more accurate.

EDIT: Still can’t get pics in!
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April 27, 2013 1:06pm
niggly

FES @ 1.03 well said!

But what’s the answer?

Rhetorical question – is our Parliamentary system at fault?

Is there an alternative, whereby people with economic acumen run that portfolio, Greenies the environment portfolio, Labour, well, working class I mean interests of ruling class of university-educated “progressives”, “sophisticates”, “elites” and “latte-sippers” or whatever, lol?
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April 27, 2013 1:13pm
Judith

F E Smith (2,457) Says:
April 27th, 2013 at 1:06 pm
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Totally agree – the number of unregistered gun owners in NZ is amazing – anyone that really wants a gun can obtain one, especially those that lead illicit lifestyles.

Restrictive gun laws keep honest people honest and ensure their guns are kept locked up and out of reach of other honest people. Less honest people know how to get past locks and restraints.
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April 27, 2013 1:15pm
Judith

F E Smith (2,458) Says:
April 27th, 2013 at 1:03 pm

What is it that makes so many people, never having run a business or been responsible for any significant budget previously, think that they are qualified to run the country?

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I don’t know, but apparently the majority does. People are judged not by experience but by certification, which in this day and age can be achieved at university in any number of topics, including degrees in Aromatherapy – all encouraged by the University administrators more keen to make profits than ensure the production of knowledge remains its foremost concern.
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April 27, 2013 1:20pm
F E Smith

niggly,

Cheers.

Is there an alternative,

I have often thought that not paying MPs is a good idea. Make it voluntary work and then only the people who can afford it will do it. I realise that will not sit well with many, so I would have to say that my vote would go for a minimum age for election. Say that you couldn’t be elected as an MP until you were 45, or something like that.

But I honestly don’t know. The burgeoning political class really does worry me, however.

I also like the idea of term limits, say 5 terms and then no more. It ceases to be a career then.

Judith, well said. (on both the preceding comments!)
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April 27, 2013 1:22pm
Lee01

Kea,

The Taliban ruled area of Afghanistan hosted and supported the group that did attack the US, a fact you conveniently try to downplay. Thus by ANY notion of moral justification and international law Afghnaistan under the Taliban DID attack the US.

As to your second point, fuck you. You live on an island near the bottom of the world with no borders with any other country and too small to matter. What experience do you have that you think you, or any other Kiwi, can pontificate to the US or Israel?

NOTHING.

As to collateral damage I have family in the US military are curently in areas of great danger. So I at least have a legitimate stake in this, unlike yourself.
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April 27, 2013 1:22pm
Kea

I can fix the problem and it is a real vote winner 🙂

1. Fix the 1893 mistake of giving women the vote.

Almost all of the failed socialist, social engineering, micro managing policies we see are a direct result of that failed experiment. Women are born worriers and fuss pots, with a tendency to focus on minor details. They tend to give equal weight to emotions and facts when evaluating situations. They influence policy directly by participating in running the country, and indirectly by politicians appealing to them to win votes.

I have no problem with -elected- women leaders, but no way they should be given the vote.

[I wonder how many thumb downs this thing can record ]
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April 27, 2013 1:32pm
cha

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-april-25-2013/australia—gun-control-s-aftermath
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April 27, 2013 1:34pm
Kea

The Taliban ruled area of Afghanistan hosted and supported the group that did attack the US,

By group you mean the Saudi Arabians who carried out the attack ? The Saudi Arabian who planned and financed it? The Saudi Arabians who used a remote area in that vast desolate country for a training camp ?

As a point of fact the USA “hosted” and trained the hijackers on how to fly the planes. There are more radical Islamists being hosted in London than Kabul by the way dickhead.
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April 27, 2013 1:38pm
cha

The landing gear just found.

https://twitter.com/billritter7/status/327879537385959424/photo/1
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April 27, 2013 1:52pm
joana

Kea…
I had to oblige.but I share similar views on females in the work force , particularly female managers..All the text books are wasted on them..they are truly a scary breed..They are almost all totally useless as ”managers.” They have poor people and communication skills and the worst of them spend all their time personalising things. I am old enough to have had a lot of good male bosses so can easily compare them. In decades in the work force , I have only ever had one good female boss…Diana Crossan , the current or former retirement commissioner who is a terrific boss and a fabulous person.
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April 27, 2013 1:55pm
Kea

joana , yes it is surprising how many women agree with this rather confronting idea.

Funnily enough, I do report to a woman boss and she is wonderful. The best boss I have ever had and outstanding professionally and as a person. However, she is the exception to the rule and I have seen women bosses create very dark and oppressive work places.
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April 27, 2013 2:22pm
Pete George

“Those who cannot change their minds cannot change anything.” ~ George Bernard Shaw
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April 27, 2013 3:10pm
Pete George

Just as China becomes our biggest export market there is a call to cut financial ties with them.

A right wing group is hoping to persuade the Government to sever ties with China over human rights concerns.

Right Wing Resistance has been dropping anti-Chinese flyers across the country over the past few days.

Spokesperson Kyle Chapman says their main aim is to persuade the Government to cut financial ties with China.

“By us having financial and trade deals with China we’re actually endorsing the war crimes that they do and the genocide that they commit on different nationalities,” he told ONE News.

“Right now there are at least five countries that surround them that have military problems with China.”

He believes a country can only be judged by what they have already done and what they are doing right now.

“We’ve felt that the only way really to fight some of these issues is to be a little extreme, because if you don’t, you just get pushed away and nobody listens to you and the issues just carry on.”

However, Chapman insists they have nothing against the people of China.

“We’re not trying to say to Chinese people that they are a bad people, we’re just trying to say their government’s dangerous and we don’t want their influence in our country.”

http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/call-new-zealand-cut-ties-china-5419228

A bit surprising seeing TVNZ giving that coverage.
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April 27, 2013 4:28pm
F E Smith

PG,

I had a look at some of the policies of the so-called Right Wing Resistance, they make for interesting reading:

Policies short version:
Remove New Zealand from international organisations that dictate how we should run our country.
Stop China’s domination of New Zealand.
Create a better tax system that is not so demanding on the workers.
Make better wage and standard of life for workers.
Lower food and power prices.
Make use of New Zealands resources in a responsible way.
Take care of New Zealands assets, firstly by keeping them.
Radical Government change to reduce the cost of over paid bureaucrats and CEOs.
Create a better defence system.
Cancel trade deals that destroy New Zealands manufacturing industry.
Address crime at a community level while dealing harsher with serious offending, bring in the death penalty for peadaphiles and child killers.
Address poverty in New Zealand with a community focus and make health care more available.
Deal with the decreasing moral fiber of our country and restore traditional values.
We would maintain our unique national identity.

Many of those policies (not all, obviously) are more left of centre than actually right wing. If they were truly right wing they would be all for greater international trade, free trade agreements, asset sales and private exploitation of resources. I also note an emphasis on protecting the working class.

Like the British National Party, which draws most of its members from the UK Labour Party, the Right Wing Resistance would appear to be more at home within Labour rather than the Nats.

I just wish they would stop calling themselves right wing. They aren’t!
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April 27, 2013 5:24pm
kowtow

TVNZ gave coverage to that?
Only to remind us that the evil white right wingers exist and as long as that enormous danger to our freedom,the RWR, exists then TVNZ and all other United Front media outlets are obliged to keep us informed of that danger.

And Pete George has to remind us that he exists……..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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April 27, 2013 5:27pm
bhudson

Lower food and power prices.

Perhaps Labour have found another partner for their removal of GST from fresh fruit and vegetables and NZ Power initiatives.
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April 27, 2013 6:34pm
Viking2

It seems there’s a new batch of indians recruited to run the windows scam once more.
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April 27, 2013 6:48pm
RF

Some long faces over on the left while they trot out the lame excuses concerning the poor turn outs for the protest marches throughout the country. Apart from rent a mob and a few Labour green supporters, a virtual no show from the general public. when will they learn. stupid children…
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April 27, 2013 6:49pm
Manolo

In Helen’s league: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/04/27/un-official-will-keep-post-despite-controversial-comments-about-boston-bombings/
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April 27, 2013 6:53pm
Kea

“I just wish they would stop calling themselves right wing. They aren’t!”

Nor was Hitlers socialist workers party.
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April 27, 2013 6:54pm
Kea

Manolo, I am the first to call the US to task over it’s poorly considered wars, but at the end of the day they are our mates. I would rather have them next door than the crazy Muslim folk.

The UN was set up with good intent, but has morphed into an anti Western hate group, paid for by the West !
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April 27, 2013 6:58pm
nasska

F E Smith

….”Remove New Zealand from international organisations that dictate how we should run our country.”…..

If they weren’t otherwise a pack of fruitloops, that one policy would tempt a vote or two. Anything that can be done to rid us of the insidious UN influence on our political scene would have to be a good move.
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April 27, 2013 7:04pm
kowtow

Oh look another terror plot foiled.

“British” men involved ! Yeah right.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2013/04/201342620234077729.html
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April 27, 2013 7:32pm
F E Smith

nasska,

I see the UN as a waste of time and money, more than anything else, easily ignored and completely powerless. The only thing it consistently achieves is the unfair condemnation of Israel. It is a hotbed of corruption and a prime example of institutional inertia. I don’t see a need to leave it, I just don’t expect anything from it. Anybody who has read “Shake Hands With The Devil’ (and if you haven’t then I highly recommend it) will get a very good understanding of how poorly the UN works. The incredible thing is that one of the main screw-ups in that mission was Kofi Annan, proof that incompetence is no barrier to promotion.

(Actually, completely off topic but prompted by that last point, my uncle is a former professional fireman and he holds the opinion that in the NZ Fire Service incompetence is generally a mandatory qualification for promotion!!!)
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April 27, 2013 7:40pm
Rivka

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10879956
Am I the only one to get rialed up about this bimbo dumbo blond commie tart mocking our Prime Minister with her stupid little sign “I’m with stupid.” She’s the stupid. How dam rude can you get.
And whats her job? Shes an actress! Get a real job sweetie! And who pays her? We bloody do. The taxpayer pays big time through that New Zealand On Air crap outfit set up by helengrad. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you?
The trouble with John Key is he’s too trusting A bimbo asks to get a photo with him and he obliques He’s too nice. Doesnt think twice. Same as when the commie media scum ask him scrupulous trick questions. They’re the liars not John Key. He’s too honest and too trusting. Time for a change.
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April 27, 2013 7:52pm
nasska

What would the average anti gun retard make of these statistics? 🙂

Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9ow5blw4ihqhnkj/Gun.jpg
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April 27, 2013 7:52pm
mikenmild

Not considering myself a retard nasska, but would the demogrphic makeup have anything to do with it?
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April 27, 2013 7:55pm
nasska

F E Smith

I’ll put that title on my list to beg, borrow or steal.

Another maxim is that in the public service an employee always gets promoted one step beyond their level of competence. 🙂
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April 27, 2013 7:56pm
Kea

What would the average anti gun retard make of these statistics?

That gun owners agree on equality between black folk and white folk?. Almost a perfect match 🙂
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April 27, 2013 7:57pm
nasska

I’d say that your suggestion would be right on the money ‘mikenmild’ but I would leave myself wide open to claims of racism from the socialists.

You have the advantage in that the latter look after their own. 🙂
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April 27, 2013 7:59pm
Kea

F E Smith at 7:40, I like your thinking, in spite of what my mate Johnboy may say about you !

I might add that I work in a legal related position in the public service and have observed how people are promoted. I used to think it was sour grapes, but it is actually for real. Rarely do the best people get promoted. It a cultural/political thing and very hard to change.
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April 27, 2013 8:04pm
Rivka

More about that stupid commie actress tart and her stupid sign. The media are full of commies. We saw it with the Stalinist actors union came out of the sewers and tried to stop filming the Lord of the Rings here. Thank God we’ve stll got enough real patriots to take it to the commie pinko low life. Trouble is the commies are still rife in the media working away, chip chip chipping trying to bring John Key down. They’ve got to be stopped.
They’ve got to be flushed out. Fresh air is the best disinfectant. John Key needs to set up a committee with the power to force these traitors out in the open so everyone knows who they really are and to make sure they get never one cent of tax payer dollars ever again. They’re not real Kiwis. They’re Un-Kiwis. John Key needs to make sure they never get work in this country ever again.
We’ve got some good guys in the National party who’ve got the guts to head a committee like that. They know all about the United Soviet Socialist Republic.
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April 27, 2013 8:19pm
nasska

“Are we there yet?”

“Are we there yet?”

“Are we there yet?”

“Are we there yet?”

“For fuck’s sake, Dave. You really don’t know where my clitoris is, do you?”
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April 27, 2013 8:20pm
F E Smith

I’ll put that title on my list to beg, borrow or steal.

I do highly recommend it. It is about the genocide in Rwanda, so it can be tough reading at times, but it is worth it.

Kea,

Completely agreed. I didn’t believe it either until I spent time working with local and regional government.
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April 27, 2013 8:23pm
RF

Rivka. 8.19pm

The right are called many names by the left – torys, neolibs or whatever. I prefer PATRIOTS as that is what we are.
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April 27, 2013 8:38pm
UglyTruth

Megyn Kelly is reporting on Fox now that the FBI believes there was a third bomber, according to the Pat Dollard website

The other night TVNZ possibly hinted at this when they talked about the surviving suspects (plural). At that time the MSM narrative was that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was the sole surviving suspect.

Let’s not forget that the FBI was asking for help identifying the Tsarnaev brothers before they admitted that they had previously been in contact with him. Also the Daily Mail reports that “authorities in Russia warned the FBI ‘multiple times’ about Boston bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev”.

And then there’s the fact that the FBI has a history of cultivating potential terrorists for a controlled attack. The 1993 WTC bombing was a FBI assisted event that resulted in the deaths of six people, also with many injured.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/boston-truth-both-fbi-cia-watched-boston-bombing-suspects-for-years/5332942

The obvious suspect is the man in shredded clothes who ran from the site immediately following the first explosion.

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/ScreenSnapz039-620×350.jpg
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