General Debate 21 April 2013

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Scott Chris

Here’s an article that may serve to bolster the beliefs of the climate change deniers.

What it fails to mention is the fact that the rise in global surface heat content continues unabated, and the fact that the atmosphere holds less than 10% of the surface heat content.

Point is, the transfer of energy from ocean to atmosphere will eventually happen – even if scientists haven’t been able to predict exactly when.
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April 21, 2013 8:12am
Fletch

So, more about this Saudi suspect who was detained in the Boston bombings.
If you remember, he was detained by police. Then Obama had an unscheduled meeting with the Saudi Foreign Minister in the Whitehouse. Michelle Obama then meets the suspect in hospital. Next thing the suspect is suddenly going to be deported on Tuesday.

Now a very upset Glenn Beck is saying he has info on the suspect and that he is giving the Govt until Monday to come forward and let the public know. If they don’t then he is going to divulge what he knows. At the moment, he can only say that he is a BAD, BAD, BAD man (he makes a point in saying BAD three times in both the videos I have seen of his statement, and he says the few in the know will know what he is talking about).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PODZaaMTwfg

Ex-Muslim Walid Shoebat says the Saudi suspect has ties to Al Qaeda – his family clan are active Al Qaeda freedom fighters and some are even in Gitmo. Will be interesting to see what happens when Monday rolls around.

http://www.mrctv.org/videos/glenn-beck-goes-all-gives-feds-until-monday-come-clean-about-saudi-person-interest-boston-bombing
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April 21, 2013 8:26am
All_on_Red

Scott,
Check out the data from the Argo buoy system which measures Ocean Temp from 0-700 M. Its actually getting cooler. Dana Nuccitelli has been discredited several times now.
You need to change your sources. John Cook from SKS is an ex cartoonist…
And don t say the heats down deep. It would have been observed passing by the measuring system.
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April 21, 2013 8:30am
wat dabney

Scott,

If you are interested in the science and measurement of ocean heat content:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/03/11/is-ocean-heat-content-data-all-its-stacked-up-to-be/
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April 21, 2013 8:33am
iMP

I’ve been watching this Fletch. Glenn Beck is kinda crazy, but its very weird Michelle Obama went to the hospital. This suggests again, that the Obama’s have received some kind of favour from the Saudi family. I’m sure campaign funds flushed in there early on and its the source of Obama’s hidden scholarship to an ivy league university when he registered as a ‘foreign student’.

This could be big and potentially undermine Obama’s credibility. His Israel – Egypt stuff, bowing to the Sauds, and his ambivalent Christina-Muslim background has left Q.s for many Americans.
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April 21, 2013 8:35am
joana

Sheik Feiz Mohammed from Auburn Sydney.
He made deaths threats against Geert Wilders..He believes in execution for apostasy , stoning for homosexuals , beheading for all and sundry and he blames women for rape. The Sydney coppers now say they are in regular contact with him and that he has changed his views recently….I am sure all the Aussies out there are very reassured.
Does anyone know whether he has ever come to NZ on a speaking tour?
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April 21, 2013 8:38am
hj

“The deep oceans have recently been soaking up much of the excess heat trapped under the ever-thickening blanket of greenhouse gases that humans pump into the atmosphere, according to a recent study.

The finding may help explain why the pace of global warming at the surface has slowed in recent years compared to the 1990s, a phenomenon that has left members of the climate science community scratching their heads.

“The warming at the surface hasn’t stopped, but it has been less than most of the climate models have been predicting,” David Pierce, a climate researcher with the Scripps Institution of Oceanography, explained to NBC News. “So the question is: Where is that extra heat going?”
http://science.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/11/17708881-where-did-global-warming-go-the-deep-ocean-experts-say?lite
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April 21, 2013 8:42am
hj

Does anyone know whether he has ever come to NZ on a speaking tour?
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Check out the Green Party events thing.
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April 21, 2013 8:47am
Fletch

joana, not sure about him personally, but we have had those type of speakers in NZ before running workshops and youth camps and the like.

http://www.investigatemagazine.co.nz/Investigate/?p=3256
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April 21, 2013 8:50am
joana

Thanks for keeping this in front of us Fletch..It is being buried in the media..The early reports of Al-Harbi described him as a ”well connected” Saudi. The actions of the Obamas reinforce this notion.
Shoebat has a really interesting story.
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April 21, 2013 8:53am
krazykiwi

Michelle Obama then meets the suspect in hospital. Next thing the suspect is suddenly going to be deported on Tuesday

Imagine if this happened in NZ, ie Bronagh had visited a terror suspect in hospital, and then deportation was announced? The rabid left would be going apeshit, and rightly so.
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April 21, 2013 8:56am
Kea

Scott Chris & hj, Of course the oceans absorb heat. They have always absorbed heat, this is not news to any informed person.

Are you seriously trying to imply that the heat is suddenly going into the deep ocean instead of the atmosphere, for some mysterious reason ?

You cultists are getting increasingly crazy and desperate.
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April 21, 2013 9:05am
krazykiwi

Good article: Lawrence Solomon – We learn that history trumps science when the science is speculative, politicized, and at odds with reality.
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April 21, 2013 9:10am
Kea

Fletch, if this checks out, you know exactly what will happen. Nothing, at least nothing to the Saudis responsible.

The people who planned and carried out 911 were Saudis. America pulled the biggest propaganda trick in history and convinced the West that Afghanistan should be attacked, while remaining great mates with the Saudis. You only have to read the comments on general debate yesterday, to see how effective the brain washing has been.
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April 21, 2013 9:13am
Kea

Krazy, yes that is a good article. Self evident common sense. It is a shame most of the sheeple will never see it and will simply think as the media has told them to.
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April 21, 2013 9:22am
Fletch

Kea, not to mention that the U.S govt now has an open travel “trusted traveller” arrangement with them, allowing Saudis to bypass normal airport security screenings. WTF is wrong with these people?

A Department of Homeland Security program intended to give “trusted traveler” status to low-risk airline passengers soon will be extended to Saudi travelers, opening the program to criticism for accommodating the country that produced 15 of the 19 hijackers behind the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
Sources voiced concern about the decision to the Investigative Project on Terrorism, which issued a report Wednesday on the under-the-radar announcement — which was first made by Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano after meeting in January with her Saudi counterpart. According to the IPT, this would be the first time the Saudi government has been given such a direct role in fast-tracking people for entry into the United States.

“I think you have radical Wahhabism in certain elements in Saudi Arabia, and I think to be more lenient there than in other places would be a mistake,” Rep. Frank Wolf told the Investigative Project on Terrorism. “There were 15 [hijackers] from that country, and there is a lot taking place in that region.”

Only an exclusive handful of countries enjoy inclusion in the Global Entry program — Canada, Mexico, South Korea and the Netherlands. According to the IPT, some officials are questioning why Saudi Arabia gets to reap the benefits of the program, when key U.S. allies like Germany and France are not enrolled; Israel has reached a deal with the U.S., but that partnership has not yet been implemented.

Any Saudi travelers cleared through the program will be able to bypass the normal customs line after providing passports and fingerprints. The status lasts for five years.

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There’s something going on there.
Obama seems intent on weakening the safety and security of the U.S. And who can forget his bowing to the Saudi king?
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April 21, 2013 9:28am
UglyTruth

The people who planned and carried out 911 were Saudis

You mean the 19 alleged hijackers? The official conspiracy theory has more holes than a Swiss cheese.
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April 21, 2013 9:37am
Kea

Fletch, I was partially tricked myself at one time. I was against the invasion of Afghanistan, but wished the US well and hoped they would at least make things better there and achieve their “stated” goals. I still do actually, but clearly it has not happened.

Then I woke up that these folk had never attacked anyone outside of their tribal borders and that the people who did came from a US ally, Saudi Arabia. This is not even disputed, yet somehow they have us believing it is ok to remain on good terms with Saudis and kill Afghans instead !

I am not suggesting they should attack Saudi Arabia either, but if they really want to hunt terrorists, that is where they came from. Not Afghanistan.
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April 21, 2013 9:40am
Kea

Ugly, I am not going to conspiracy theories here, just what the US has claimed. Osama Bin Laden was from a rich Saudi family too, not just the attackers. None of this is disputed by the US.
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April 21, 2013 9:43am
UglyTruth

Kea, what the US alleged is a conspiracy theory.
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April 21, 2013 9:46am
Kea

“Mosques in the U.S. are gaining popularity. Of the 1,200 mosques currently operating in the U.S., nearly 80 percent have been built in the past 12 years.

A large majority of mosques in the United States are led by Wahhabi clerics. Wahhabism is an extreme brand of Islam practiced dominantly in Saudi Arabia. According to Muslim estimates, up to 80 percent of mosques in the U.S. are owned, operated and led by Wahhabis.”

Saudi Arabia’s Efforts to Expand Radical Islam and Support Terrorism by Rachel Ehrenfeld

On the eve of the Arab Spring, Rachel Ehrenfeld published a lengthy and important study titled, “Their Oil Is Thicker Than Our Blood“*on Saudi support for Islamist terrorism and the global expansion of the radical Islamic base, as well as the inadequacies of the Kingdom’s purported anti-terrorist efforts. While much has happened since, very little has changed regarding the patterns of Saudi behavior in this regard.

But Saudi funding to globally spread their Sunni radical version of Islam-Wahhabism–began in earnest in 1962 with the establishment of the Muslim World League (MWL), which expanded into at least to one hundred branches in more than thirty countries, and served as the main body for other international Saudi charities. Since then, the Kingdom’s charities have been estimated to spend between $1.5 and $2 trillion to build many thousand of mosques, madrassas and Islamic centers equipped with Saudi books and Imams, preaching the Wahhabi doctrine.

http://www.ruthfullyyours.com/2013/02/03/saudi-arabias-efforts-to-expand-radical-islam-and-support-terrorism-by-rachel-ehrenfeld/
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April 21, 2013 9:48am
UglyTruth

This is a pattern; when Dan Burton, who scratched India or Pakistan’s back while in Congress, resigned, he becomes lobbyist for India or Pakistan. Same situation for Dennis Hastert: after the Vanity Fair article comes out exposing his connection with Sibel Edmonds’ case, he leaves Congress and receives $3.5 million a year to lobby for Turkey. This happens not so much because they served the government of those particular countries, but because they served the CIA-State Department’s illegal operations in Central Asian Caucuses via Islamization. Edmonds states they were fully aware in the 90’s that these Congressional-approved funds totaling close to one billion dollars went to front companies who then gave it to sub-contractors (such as the American Turkish Council that Edmonds tracked) where nothing visible is produced on the other end, but behind the scenes what was produced was heroin, money laundering, and the training of terrorists.

http://americanjudas.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/synopsizing-sibel-edmonds-evolution-of_28.html
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April 21, 2013 10:06am
mikenmild

Yes, definitely a conspiracy by Obama to cover up the truth about the Boston bombing. Where will it end?
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April 21, 2013 10:14am
Kea

mikenmild, no conspiracy theory needed though, when a Saudi planned 911, Saudis executed the plan, and they invaded Afghanistan.

But I can understand you being defensive about the black Jesus, it is Sunday after all.
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April 21, 2013 10:22am
UglyTruth

no conspiracy theory needed though

Except that a conspiracy is when a group of people act with a common unlawful purpose.
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April 21, 2013 10:29am
Kea

UglyTruth, people “conspire” all the time to achieve a common goal. It is not, in it’s self, sinister. Of course the US conspires to advance its own interests. So does every other country. Some just do it better.

However, my comments regarding Afghanistan/Saudi Arabia are based on what the US says publicly. The crazy part is that many people think the invasion of Afghanistan and the tens of thousands dead is justified, even though it runs contrary to accepted fact.
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April 21, 2013 10:35am
pollywog

New Zealand teams have now lost seven of nine games against Australian opposition this season. Rennie downplayed suggestions Kiwis were taking Australians lightly.

“Kiwi sides tend to bar up for each other. They are like test-match intensity. We haven’t really seen that when the Kiwis play the Aussies…”

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/8577044/Angry-Chiefs-coach-prepares-to-wield-the-axe

Definitely not a softcock for NZ ruggerboys is Dave Rennie 🙂
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April 21, 2013 10:36am
UglyTruth

people “conspire” all the time to achieve a common goal.

No, lawful common purpose is not a conspiracy.

An agreement between two or more persons to engage jointly in an unlawful or criminal act, or an act that is innocent in itself but becomes unlawful when done by the combination of actors.
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/conspiracy

my comments regarding Afghanistan/Saudi Arabia are based on what the US says publicly

What the US says publicly about terrorism is typically misleading:

“By any measure the US has long used terrorism. In ‘78-79 the Senate was trying to pass a law against international terrorism – in every version they produced, the lawyers said the US would be in violation.” Lt. General William Odom, NSA director
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April 21, 2013 10:45am
holysheet

Caught a comment on tv this morning from the gweens fuckwit hughes saying north Korea had a better power system than we have here in NZ. God help us if the gweens and liabore ever get to be govt any time soon.
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April 21, 2013 11:04am
Kea

holysheet, by better they must mean, no power.

I guess you want proof…

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/technology-blog/dramatic-satellite-photo-shows-north-korea-near-total-013138805.html

“If the inhabitants of another world were to look at North Korea at night, they’d assume it was deserted. That’s because the country is virtually without electricity, as evident in this nighttime satellite photo showing only its capital of Pyongyang and a few tiny spots within its borders illuminated.”
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April 21, 2013 11:15am
Reid

Mother of the bombers alleges her eldest was “controlled” by the FBI for two years prior to this.

If you know what Mind Kontrol is and how they do it, this is an important clue. It’s in the video

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/8577317/Bombing-suspects-worked-alone-investigators-say

But as always it’s the cui bono – who benefits – thing we need to identify here.

What outcome(s) is this designed to promote?
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April 21, 2013 11:20am
UglyTruth

Yes, definitely a conspiracy by Obama to cover up the truth about the Boston bombing. Where will it end?

Don’t go to the link if fake prosthetics and fake blood make you sqeamish.

http://buelahman.wordpress.com/2013/04/20/are-you-just-a-believer-or-do-you-think/
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April 21, 2013 11:22am
Reid

Careful UT. The cognitive dissonance bells will be a’clanging.
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April 21, 2013 11:33am
kowtow

Oh look it’s another diversity dividend that immigration and multiculturalism brings to the west.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2312024/Horror-slave-kept-2million-home-raped-passed-middle-class-families.html
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April 21, 2013 11:35am
Reid

The simultaneous ricin attacks give the game away as a psyop. It’s a ratcheting up of the tension which they often do these days, prior to a military attack. Wonder what the US forces are doing in the Syrian region right now?
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April 21, 2013 11:39am
Manolo

A warning to comrade Juliar: http://www.news.com.au/national-news/tony-abbott-warns-gillard-government-over-key-appointments-before-september-14-poll/story-fncynjr2-1226625047282
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April 21, 2013 11:42am
adaman

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/8577144/Landlords-see-red-over-Green-Stars

Further lunacy from the Auckland Council. This is a step in the right direction if you’re wanting to destroy the NZ economy via nanny state/nanny council BS.

My message to Aucklanders for 2013 would be to votes these tossers out of council.
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April 21, 2013 11:51am
Harriet

Thanks Manolo.

I didn’t know that was happening. But doesn’t surprise me. The long march through everything continues.
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April 21, 2013 12:03pm
Lance

So like GWB spirited Saudi’s out of the country at 9/11.
Now Obama is doing the same after Boston.

So this is a conspiracy between GWB and Obama?

Wow, the heady reality of blog conspiracy theories.
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April 21, 2013 12:06pm
kowtow

It wasn’t too long that our host was singing the praises of the excellent Karl du Fresne on left wing bias in Radio NZ.

Here’s another excellent piece from Karl ,but I very much doubt KB will be highlighting it!

http://karldufresne.blogspot.co.nz/2013/04/buffoon-of-week.html

Enjoy.
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April 21, 2013 12:14pm
Manolo

Thank you, kowtow.

Du Fresne writes accurately:
Others may regard Williamson as a hero, but he confirmed my impression that he’s a clown and a buffoon – and worse, a clown and a buffoon with no regard for the right of constituents to freely communicate their honestly held opinions to their elected representatives.
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April 21, 2013 12:20pm
Reid

So this is a conspiracy between GWB and Obama?

No that’s not what’s being said at all Lance. I realise that’s what you think is being said, but it’s obviously all a bit beyond you so I suggest you don’t worry about it and just focus on the MSM version, who’ll no doubt accurately and insightfully reveal exactly what went on, in due course.
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April 21, 2013 12:51pm
Pauleastbay

The simultaneous ricin attacks give the game away as a psyop

Thttp://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/letter-to-obama-containing-suspicious-substance-intercepted-by-secret-service/2013/04/17/dd4b2152-a76e-11e2-a8e2-5b98cb59187f_story.html

By Wednesday night, authorities had arrested Paul Kevin Curtis of Corinth, Miss., as a suspect in the ricin mailings, the FBI said in a statement. Curtis also sent a third letter to a Mississippi justice official, the FBI said. He is well known to law enforcement as a frequent letter-writer to lawmakers, two officials said.

psyop my arse, totally insane looney
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April 21, 2013 12:57pm
Reid

psyop my arse, totally insane looney

Paul, you wouldn’t know a psyop if it bashed your door down and started attacking you, so how would you know if it was or not?

Or are you getting your position from the: “they don’t do that sort of thing in the US therefore it’s not that” school of thought?
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April 21, 2013 1:00pm
Pauleastbay

Reid

Accept the fact that there are 400 million citizens of the USA. One or two of them are never that happy with their current administration. These one or two do outrageous things. They are not done to entertain you and give you something to discuss on message boards. They are done because these people are dangerous individuals who over step the mark and actually kill people because of their delusions and disillusionment with things. Sad demented individuals do act alone.

I am aware that you are waging phycological warfare with us here over your conspiracy theories on everything, but you will not win, we will resist.
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April 21, 2013 1:08pm
Kea

Reid, when considering these things I suggest you think of a few practical matters. There is no way all the people around the Boston event would keep quiet if part of some conspiracy. It shows a pretty bleak view of your fellow man. It is also pretty miserable to those injured and killed.

I like the way you question the msm, but don’t lose common sense in the process.
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April 21, 2013 1:28pm
Reid

There is no way all the people around the Boston event would keep quiet if part of some conspiracy.

Who is saying that is how these things work? Honestly, if you don’t know how these things work in practice, then how the heck are you going to make an informed judgement on whether or not it’s happening?

And BTW, I’m not saying it unequivocally is, I’m saying the ricin is a sign that it is a psyop.

There are two possible outcomes from here: Syrian action from the US and racheting up of the DHS.

Just wait and see how it unfolds. There is no point at this stage in discussing it further, unless someone has access to the NSA files. Does anyone? No? So just wait and see. By their actions ye shall know them. And like I said, a precursor to an informed judgement is knowing what those actions would look like, if this was a psyop. And if your position is that you couldn’t possibly imagine they would do that therefore it cannot be that, well, what sort of basis is that to make a judgement on?
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April 21, 2013 1:38pm
Kea

And if your position is that you couldn’t possibly imagine they would do that therefore it cannot be that…

No that is not my position.

You seem to imagine your thinking is astute, but at times your naive about the nature of your fellow man.

Assuming the worst is no more logical than the blindly accepting and unquestioning approach taken by so many others on KB. Having said that, at least you do not parrot the msm on every topic.
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April 21, 2013 3:23pm
Reid

You seem to imagine your thinking is astute, but at times your naive about the nature of your fellow man.

No I don’t actually. The only reason I started being explicit about the things I see as I see them rather than shut up which was my approach for many years, is because the pace is increasing. War clouds are gathering. We have been living in interesting times for some time now. It’s important to recognise what’s really happening so you can prepare yourself. There’s no point in thinking you can change it from a blog in NZ, but you can tell people what’s coming up.

But I don’t regard that as any more or less astute than anyone else here. We all have our perspectives, our own interests, which we follow. The fact I’m interested in something that’s more esoteric than say, crime which others are more interested in, is neither here nor there, to me.

And the only reason I put things up is to get critique, but the critique if it comes needs to be based on an understanding of how the field works. There’s no point in critiquing crime if you don’t understand it, for example. This stuff is no different. But understanding it is not rocket science, just like understanding anything else, isn’t.

Assuming the worst is no more logical than the blindly accepting and unquestioning approach taken by so many others on KB.

I don’t assume the worst, I just lay it out as I see it. And what I see isn’t good. It’d be nice if it was, but it’s not.
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April 21, 2013 3:47pm
Kea

“War clouds are gathering.”

They are more than “gathering”.

Ask the people of Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Algeria, Yemen, Mali… etc. I doubt the USA was attacking this many countries in WWII

Obama makes Bush look like a vegan peace freak. Most of the folk here on KB have no idea how many countries this war mongering nutter is taking military action against. It is not hidden or secret information, but the media simply do not mention it. (because POTUS is Black). Obama really has bought a little bit of Africa to the US in more ways than one.

Rather than spend five minutes googling, they just turn their brains off and listen to what the msm tells them.
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April 21, 2013 4:01pm
Dean Papa

Glenn Beck is a con man, nothing more. He acts kinda crazy, but he ain’t really. In fact, I believe he is a millionaire. Unlike the morons who pay whatever it is to listen to his idiotic ramblings on the internet. If Beck really was crazy, and really did believe the crap he sprouts, then surely he would want the widest possible audience to hear it, because what he has to say is that important, right?
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April 21, 2013 4:27pm
nasska

….”Rather than spend five minutes googling, they just turn their brains off and listen to what the msm tells them.”….

Probably the most depressing feature of the entire mess. Control the medium & control the message has been the maxim of dictators ever since the advent of newspapers. Nowadays, courtesy of the internet, for the first time in history the man in the street has vast amounts of information at his fingertips but chooses to ignore it.

Strange!
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April 21, 2013 4:32pm
Kea

nasska, It does my head in. Often people say I talking about some conspiracy, but I am only talking about what the US openly admits officially. People are that badly informed. Here in NZ nothing is said that would diminish the black Jesus, directly or indirectly.

An example is that many people think Iraq and Afghanistan were behind 911 ! Yet the US does not say that. It is little wonder we have so much war and suffering when people are so dam stupid and dim.
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April 21, 2013 4:46pm
wiseowl

So now we learn that $34m of the great tourism subsidy is to be targeted at the super rich.Conferences for the big shiny arses to talk bs.

What is wrong with all these hi powered tourism business people that they can’t say to key ‘we don’t need a subsidy’.We are involved in business and know how to make a buck.Leave it to us.

I am involved in earning export dollars.I want a subsidy!!!
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April 21, 2013 5:38pm
pollywog

pimpin aint easy wiseowl !

get yaself a stable of fine hotties and cream the chinese fatcats.

i’ve always wanted to convert a few train wagons into a gambling/brothel/5 star restaurant for high rollers.
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April 21, 2013 5:43pm
mikenmild

Sadly, there is virtually no industry where one could not make some kind of case for a subsidy. Movies, tourism and irrigation seem to be the pin-ups for now. Level playing field anyone?
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April 21, 2013 5:43pm
Pete George

One News Colmar poll:

National 43 (-6)
Labour 36 (+3)
Green 13
NZ First 3
Conservative 2
Maori Party 1
United Future 1

This is similar to the recent Roy Morgan poll. 3 news poll soon.
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April 21, 2013 6:09pm
Pete George

3 News Reid Research goes against the trend:

National 49
Labour 30
Green 13
NZ First 3
Conservative 2
Maori party 1

Starkly contrasting polls.

Confidence in both Key and Shearer down a bit.
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April 21, 2013 6:17pm
Viking2

wiseowl (243) Says:
April 21st, 2013 at 5:38 pm

So now we learn that $34m of the great tourism subsidy is to be targeted at the super rich.Conferences for the big shiny arses to talk bs.

What is wrong with all these hi powered tourism business people that they can’t say to key ‘we don’t need a subsidy’.We are involved in business and know how to make a buck.Leave it to us.

I am involved in earning export dollars.I want a subsidy!!!
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We already give you plenty. 8)

Suggested this approach about 5 years ago.
The wealthy don’t give a stuff about GFC’s and things. there are plenty out there.
At 5% of the population add up what that would be if we had that 5 % come from America, Canada, Europe, China. Not back backer either and I know of those that tip fishing guides anything up to $1000 a trip.
Better than being broke.
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April 21, 2013 6:24pm
bereal

Why
would a correspondent such as pollywog try to
couch his contribution in language to try and sound like he was a hard done by negro from the
slums of Detroit. ?
How does that stupidity help make his racist point ?

Let me guess,
poor old pollywog has a huge chip on his shoulder.
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April 21, 2013 6:55pm
Pete George

The mixed poll results are probably just as well, the polling all took place before the Labour-Green NZ Power announcement so the polls are already irrelevant.
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April 21, 2013 6:58pm
bereal

Obvious point PG

Why post them then ?
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April 21, 2013 7:02pm
cha

Well, he did play silly buggers with ricin.

http://www.guns.com/2013/04/20/photos-of-the-hazmattactical-raid-on-ricin-letter-suspects-home-in-mississippi/
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April 21, 2013 7:17pm
Viking2

Any one short of water just call up the bay. Its bucketing down again with more on the way.
Made up for the last 3 months of no rain, all in the last two days.
Thunder and all.
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April 21, 2013 7:19pm
RF

Fran Mold resigns from Shearers camp. No surprise there.
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April 21, 2013 7:38pm
Viking2

Worth a watch. Very interesting.

http://www.smh.com.au/tv/current-affairs/show/worlds-untold-stories/secret-jew-2912259.html
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April 21, 2013 7:39pm
nasska

NEWSFLASH!!!

A man who robbed banks and building societies, disguised as a woman, has finally been caught.
The judge gave him a long prison sentence, and warned him that his career as a female impersonator was probably not over just yet…
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April 21, 2013 8:00pm
Kea

Liberal v Progressive

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwK7VRkbGiU
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April 21, 2013 8:04pm
Viking2

Space Station: duur 25 min maar erg boeiend !!!

This is pretty amazing in my opinion, one of the most interesting and informative videos I have ever seen.

WOW AND WOW – I had no idea as to what the Space Station looked like… Now I do
and it is very impressive…

This is something worthwhile to watch. Don’t forget your family members and for sure your grandchildren. Enjoy..

http://www.smh.com.au/tv/current-affairs/show/worlds-untold-stories/secret-jew-2912259.html
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April 21, 2013 9:02pm
Kea

Viking 2, that link is not what you say it is.
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April 21, 2013 9:06pm
Viking2

Musta not copied it. try this.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/doN4t5NKW-k
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April 21, 2013 9:47pm
Kea

Viking 2. Thanks, I put it in my favourites to watch latter 🙂
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April 21, 2013 9:50pm
dime

what kinda sick freak posts a glenn beck video? does he weep halfway through?

let me guess. what happened yesterday is the most important thing in US history. the end is nigh.

the dude is a fuckin morman. people can still remember when that conman invented that religion. what a joke.
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April 21, 2013 10:02pm
UglyTruth

More adventures with corporate media with Abdul Rahman Ali Alharbi

First a guy apparently gets his legs blown off and they don’t bleed, and then Alharbi runs from the scene, later to be reportedly treated for shrapnel injuries to his leg. Any questions?

http://buelahman.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/s1i5jpe.jpg?w=750

He is a Saudi national who was near the scene of the blast. When the blast happened he began to run. Now, in context, a lot of people began to run. A civilian who thought he was acting suspiciously chased him down and tackled him and then turned him over to Boston police, saying, I saw this guy hanging around over there acting suspiciously. And then he ran. That may mean a lot, it may mean nothing at all.

http://au.businessinsider.com/cbs-saudi-man-in-custody-was-tackled-by-bystanders-at-boston-marathon-2013-4

The Saudi national was questioned by the FBI and local police at Boston’s Brigham and Women’s Hospital, where he was under heavy guard while being treated for shrapnel injuries to his leg.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/roommate_calls_saudi_national_quiet_vKFFJMC0WCaQmAofxNDHmO
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