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March 3, 2013 8:00am by David Farrar

General Debate 3 March 2013

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Viking2

Harriet (1,235) Says:
March 3rd, 2013 at 4:02 pm

So you think Clint Rickards , Brad Shipton, Bob Schollum. are respected ?

Only by those who knew them and did nothing.
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Not so Harriet.+

there were those around here who knew that no good was being done but until there was a complaint that would hold up in court it was basically consensual.
Plenty of talk amoung the natives. Many knew but no one complained because of the power and control excerted expecially by Shipton. Only met him twice but fankly made my hackles stand up. Something about him and of course he was a big muscle bastard.
I know he was unofficially warned by one of his superiors here but he just shrugged his shoulders. That person went elsewhere and just recently told me about this.
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March 3, 2013 5:25pm
Harriet

V2

Yes that would be right.I agree.

I probably worded it wrong. As you suggest there would be those who despised them but ‘could not’ do anything. It’s probably not a matter of corruption, more a case that if you don’t have the evidence you can’t do anything.
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March 3, 2013 5:54pm
Longknives

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/8374537/Warriors-want-own-club-haka

For fuck’s sake aren’t we over the bloody Haka already?

What divine right do the Auckland Warriors have to hold up the game by ten minutes while they poke their tongues out, slit their throats and prance around rolling their ‘googly eyes’ at the opposition?

And you just know there will be ‘rules’ put in place that the opposition MUST stand there and meekly accept it….
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March 3, 2013 6:37pm
wat dabney

The entire legendary Queen Live Aid set:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQsM6u0a038
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March 3, 2013 7:03pm
Griff

Had to put in a auto water system.
Happy plants now 😉
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March 3, 2013 7:05pm
Fletch

Very good post via Facebook as to why Socialism and Socialist ideas like Obama’s don’t work.

An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class. That class had insisted that Obama’s socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.

The professor then said, “OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Obama’s plan”. All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A…. (substituting grades for dollars – something closer to home and more readily understood by all).

After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little.

The second test average was a D! No one was happy.

When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.

As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.

To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed.
It could not be any simpler than that.

There are five morals to this story:

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.
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March 3, 2013 7:10pm
UglyTruth

The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

Context is everything. If something is taken by force or duress then the system will eventually fail, but if something is taken because it is fair and just, then it can form a legitimate basis for the funding of government. Licencing is a such a legitimate form of funding, but the fraud the the state calls licencing is not what I’m talking about. An example of legitimate licensing is the licencing of commercial use of public property or the commercial use of public resources.
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March 3, 2013 7:27pm
nasska

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6k8ok6rpctw8imk/Weevils.jpg?m
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March 3, 2013 7:49pm
Steve (North Shore)

Johnboy 9999
Change hands
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March 3, 2013 7:51pm
Steve (North Shore)

Only when the last tree has died and the last river been poisoned and the last fish caught will we realise we cannot eat money.
Who said that?
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March 3, 2013 7:54pm
Viking2

Well then there is always sex.!. 😆
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March 3, 2013 7:57pm
nasska

As the pirate ship slipped into the harbour the captain spoke to his crew, “We’re going to kill all the men and rape all the women!”

He added, “For God’s sake, get it right this time.”
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March 3, 2013 8:00pm
nasska

Steve

I don’t think anyone knows…..it could be just a folk saying. In a similar vein take a look at http://www.mbedard.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=399

I’ve got about eight of his works as prints.
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March 3, 2013 8:08pm
UglyTruth

Who said that?

A native american chief, from memory.
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March 3, 2013 8:22pm
Harriet

wat dabney#

I know I’m gonna cop a lot of shit…but….I think freddy’s best work was the album he done with Montserrat Caballe – Barcelona.

He was a good artist and entertainer. Unfortunately he was another who died to young.
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March 3, 2013 8:22pm
Kea

Griff (4,365) Says:
March 3rd, 2013 at 7:05 pm
Had to put in a auto water system.

Hay everyone, Griff got bail 🙂
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March 3, 2013 8:27pm
Viking2

Places to go.

http://screencast.com/t/p9MvrvGZiSf
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March 3, 2013 8:29pm
Kea

Griff it has been a bit too warm today for working. I have stayed inside with my coal powered air conditioning unit going flat out. The coal smoke stops a lot of the sunshine getting through, which is good, but obscures the sea view so I cant shoot at dolphins as easily. I probably got a few in the net though. There are a lot of those little buggers around at this time of year with the silly rounded dorsal fins.
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March 3, 2013 8:35pm
nasska

No bites yet. Check your bait Kea. 🙂
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March 3, 2013 8:40pm
Kea

nasska (5,787) Says:
March 3rd, 2013 at 8:40 pm
No bites yet. Check your bait Kea.

nasska, it will be because of his bail conditions.
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March 3, 2013 8:42pm
Harriet

I once worked on a fishing trawler for a week [my mate owned the boat]and we once caught a dolphin in a net – it was nearly dead.
So the cook on board cooked it, I thought it would taste disgusting but it was actually quite good. We had this mango salsa that went down well with it – and of course some beers.

I’d have it again. 😎
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March 3, 2013 8:44pm
nasska

Well I hope they’re not too hard on him Kea. Somehow I can’t imagine our friend as inmate of the month at Pare. 🙂
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March 3, 2013 8:47pm
Kea

nasska, forget Griff, I am really in the shit !

I just checked my set net and found a heavily protected White Pointer Shark in it. Funny thing is, it was full of bullet holes.

I was hoping for some dolphin blubber to throw on the coal fire.
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March 3, 2013 8:55pm
Kea

“We had this mango salsa that went down well with it – and of course some beers.

I’d have it again. ”

LOL 🙂 🙂
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March 3, 2013 8:56pm
nasska

Only way to cook the Panda ragout Kea. 🙂
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March 3, 2013 8:59pm
Harriet

Coal made whale oil obsolete.

Save Whales. Use more coal. 😎
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March 3, 2013 9:06pm
Kea

Harriet, whales are for EATING you silly thing.
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March 3, 2013 9:21pm
Harriet

No one has bought up religion today – and it’s the Sabbath!

So I will 😎

Genesis: 1: Genesis to Revelation (1969) Tony Banks, Anthony Phillips, Mike Rutherford, Chris Stewart, Peter Gabriel
Genesis: 2: Trespass (1970) Tony Banks, Mike Rutherford, Peter Gabriel, Mick Barnard, Phil Collins
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March 3, 2013 9:24pm
nasska

The Sabbath….I nearly forgot! 🙂

Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/2kb5gvjefcnfnr5/Christianity%20explained%203.jpg?m
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March 3, 2013 9:32pm
Chuck Bird

“Unfortunately he was another who died to young.”

Because he took it up the arse from numerous deviants.
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March 3, 2013 9:39pm
Kea

Because he took it up the arse from numerous deviants.

Ahhhh back to normal again 🙂

I don’t think sodomy was his defining feature though Chucky, unlike priests for example.
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March 3, 2013 9:45pm
Harriet

That’s the point – It’s still unfortunate that someone dies before they should, and yes Chuck I agree that he is a good example to others that there are risks in how one lives.

As Graham said last week – most Christians he knows and meets are contented and have fullfilling lives.

I agree that the Teachings of Christ are good to live by. Most religions who help gays ect change their lives have great success with that, because following Christ is a whole of body/whole of life change. Other types of counciling for the most part, only deal with certain issues – not with their ‘whole being’.
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March 3, 2013 10:04pm
Manolo

A good read: http://www.spectator.co.uk/australia/australia-features/8841621/colonial-rules/
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March 4, 2013 6:52am
Manolo

The Russel Norman of American politics. An accomplished liar: http://michellemalkin.com/2013/03/01/wapo-obama-capitol-janitors/
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