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March 2, 2013 8:00am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 2 March 2013

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Johnboy

I always knew you were a Democrat at heart Yvette! 🙂
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March 2, 2013 5:29pm
Johnboy

“too many indians working there”

Quite right Azeraph. America never got to be great by letting the Indians beat John Wayne.

I’ll send a memo to Key about the problem right now! 🙂
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March 2, 2013 5:32pm
Azeraph

There is so much cheap american realty at the moment that it is sad what you can get for 300,000k over there, and that’s in our dollars. Maybe if we get the Ozzies to make a deal with every boat they catch that they and us will escort them all the way to the Calif coast instead of there and eventually here. He he.
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March 2, 2013 5:45pm
kowtow

azraf

Are you suggesting the IRD sack staff based on their race?
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March 2, 2013 5:47pm
Johnboy

I think he’s suggesting that they hire John Wayne as their HR Manager kowtow! 🙂
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March 2, 2013 5:50pm
Reid

There is so much cheap american realty at the moment that it is sad what you can get for 300,000k over there

Or perhaps it’s sad how much we have to pay and what we get for that here.
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March 2, 2013 5:53pm
Reid

Good article on China’s tactics in the foreign policy arena, which we can see in the South Pacific as well.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2285676/How-China-enslaving-world-Beijings-ruthless-leaders-subjugate-armies-foreign-workers-opium-plunder-resources-globe–theyve-got-Britain-sights.html

But even though it includes such truths as…

One of the features of China’s foreign ventures, it seems, is that they take no account of the political probity of the countries they are dealing with. Rogue states are not only acceptable but welcome. Bargains are easier to strike with pariahs.

…the astute geopolitical analyst will not ignore the fact the West has done and still does this, as well. For example, dealing with Saddam, dealing with the Shah of Iran, with Pinochet, with all sorts of ruthless bastards. So don’t get too carried away with the self-righteous angle if you’re interested enough to go and read China’s Silent Army by Juan Pablo Cardenal and Heriberto Araujo, will you.
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March 2, 2013 6:10pm
Azeraph

Reid (13,094) Says:
March 2nd, 2013 at 5:53 pm

Exactly Reid. Their house construction system is far superior than what we have here. When the big ones hit us, a lot of housing is just going to flop over. Get rid of your chimney’s, i’ve done a few removals for clients and the last was the geologist that setup our geology dept at auckland uni, surprisingly he told me all about our subduction zone of the coast of Wellywood.
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March 2, 2013 6:11pm
Azeraph

kowtow (3,794) Says:
March 2nd, 2013 at 5:47 pm

I’m just exercising my right to be racist like everyone else here, Generally, you hire one in a top position and they bring in the rest for you. It’s racism but then i have them in the family and they tell me all about how the backdoor is held open by the one before.

This board isn’t racist? i must’ve woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.
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March 2, 2013 6:17pm
Johnboy

“was the geologist that setup our geology dept at auckland uni, surprisingly he told me all about our subduction zone of the coast of Wellywood.”

Must be really amazing, that moment, when one Jaffa dick learns a deep secret,from another Jafa dick! 🙂
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March 2, 2013 6:20pm
Reid

I’m just exercising my right to be racist like everyone else here

I thought lefties hated stereotypes Azeraph. Isn’t that a form of wacism?
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March 2, 2013 7:23pm
Azeraph

Johnboy (9,965) Says:
March 2nd, 2013 at 6:20 pm

He was cool for an 80 year old, do the math, we had no geologists back in the early sixties with his qualifications, everything we know today with nz started from him and i can’t even remember his name but he did say one thing, “Your land ain’t worth shit after what’s coming gets through with it”
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March 2, 2013 7:25pm
krazykiwi

Retired US basketballer Dennis Rodman has spent four days in North Korea where he met with reclusive leader Kim Jong-un. Rodman described him as “an awesome kid 🙂
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March 2, 2013 7:28pm
nasska

A recently discovered photo of ‘krazykiwi’ as a lad. 🙂

Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/34fz3pntbq6buh0/Cycling%202.jpg?m
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March 2, 2013 7:41pm
krazykiwi

Oh dear, or dear. It’s really looking bleak for Gillard:

Labor facing wipeout: poll

FEDERAL Labor faces electoral annihilation, losing seats previously considered ultra-safe, unless the party switches back to Kevin Rudd, a new poll has found.

It raises the prospect of double-digit swings ousting Sydney MPs on buffers of up to 12 per cent – including two government ministers.
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March 2, 2013 7:48pm
krazykiwi

nasska – lol. A bit smooth there. I’m more gorila’esq, and slightly, um, darker 🙂
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March 2, 2013 7:51pm
Johnboy

“Your land ain’t worth shit after what’s coming gets through with it”

Well who can argue with scientific analysis of that calibre Azeraph!

If you wish to be truly educated in matters of geology regarding NZ. I suggest you seek out the works of Dr. Graeme Stevens. 🙂
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March 2, 2013 7:52pm
Viking2

Ha good job and that’s what will happen to Obuma when the Yanks wake up and finally decide they really do need a redneck in their country.
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March 2, 2013 7:52pm
Johnboy

Here is a link to get you started on the path to true enlightenment! 🙂

http://www.gns.cri.nz/Home/News-and-Events/Media-Releases/Fossil-book-published
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March 2, 2013 7:54pm
nasska

“You’re paranoid”, said the doc.

“You’re the 10th doctor to tell me that”, the patient replied. “You’re all in this together, aren’t you?”
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March 2, 2013 8:00pm
nasska

NEW ZEALAND MINISTRY OF HEALTH

THE MINISTRY HAS PROPOSED THAT
WARNING SIGNS BE PLACED ON BOOZE BOTTLES TO TIP OFF
DRINKERS ABOUT THE POSSIBLE PERIL OF POUNDING A PINT
OR TWO.

1. WARNING: consumption of alcohol may cause you to wake up with
breath that could knock a sea gull off a shit truck at 100 metres.
2. WARNING: consumption of alcohol is a major factor in dancing
like an arsehole.
3. WARNING: consumption of alcohol may cause you to tell the same
boring story over and over again until your friends want to SMASH
YOUR HEAD IN.
4. WARNING: consumption of alcohol may cause you to say things
like thish.
5. WARNING: consumption of alcohol may cause you to tell the boss
what you REALLY think while photocopying your arse at the office
Christmas party.
6. WARNING: consumption of alcohol may lead you to believe that
ex-lovers are really dying for you to telephone them at 4 in the
morning.
7. WARNING: consumption of alcohol may leave you wondering what
the hell ever happened to your pants anyway.
8. WARNING: consumption of alcohol may cause you to roll over in
the morning and see something really scary (whose species and or
> name
you can’t remember)
9. WARNING: consumption of alcohol is the leading cause of
inexplicable rug burn on the forehead.
10. WARNING: consumption of alcohol may create the illusion that
you are tougher, handsomer and smarter than some really, really
big guy named Psycho.
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March 2, 2013 8:10pm
Harriet

“…..A child’s relationship to both mother and father is inherent to marriage. Children conceived by other means may find themselves with people in parental roles who are in a same-sex relationship, but such relationships are not the origin of the child. It is possible for children to be nurtured in such a household, but however good that nurturing, it will not provide the biological link and security of identity and relationship that marriage naturally demands and confirms…..”

Did you see those words……….security of identity!

Those poor poor little children……no ‘equality’ for them…..no ‘security of identity’ for them…but ‘identity’ for other children! Tsk Tsk!

“….In other words, a mistaken marriage policy would distort people’s understanding of the kind of relationship that spouses are to form and sustain. And that is likely to erode people’s adherence to marital norms of permanence and exclusivity that are essential to the common good because children need them.

The State records marriage to ensure it is not taken lightly. State involvement tests a couple’s mutual consent to each other and to the purposes of their marriage. But this State involvement can only make sense if one of the purposes inherent in marriage is children.

Through the State, society discourages marrying people from failing their obligations to each other, and hence to their children. Likewise, the State records the births of children, the deaths of their natural parents, and marital dissolution, all in the best interests of children.

Similarly, the State now tracks the complexities of assisted reproductive technology – the use of donors and surrogates – again for the sake of children. (However, we think these technological practices fragment parenting. When a child gains a committee of parents, her origin and identity lose definition. She is put at risk by practices that dissipate the security of relationship to her natural mother and father.)…..”

Did you see that?……………”…But this State involvement can only make sense if one of the purposes inherent in marriage is children…..’

What the fuck is John Key creating for the next generation? The State having less concern for the welfare of children that it has had in the past? Tsk Tsk.

This BTW is taken from an arguement against Gay Marriage and was presented to the Australian Federal Government. Gay Marriage has been turned down twice in the Australian Parliment and will fail to be made into law.

http://www.abc.net.au/religion/articles/2011/05/20/3222067.htm
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March 2, 2013 8:21pm
Johnboy

Not going to Lynda and Donna’s wedding then I guess Hariett?
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March 2, 2013 8:25pm
Viking2

Harriet (1,220) Says:
March 2nd, 2013 at 8:21 pm

“…..A child’s relationship to both mother and father is inherent to marriage. Children conceived by other means may find themselves with people in parental roles who are in a same-sex relationship, but such relationships are not the origin of the child. It is possible for children to be nurtured in such a household, but however good that nurturing, it will not provide the biological link and security of identity and relationship that marriage naturally demands and confirms…..”
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Well what ya got to say about the three kids I watched today whose Dad was a patched Mongrel mob yob and the mother inplicit in that as well. The kids look like they are dragged up.

So much for that relationship and the kids future. P.S. knifing at that place last week after a party around the road and an attempted sexual assult inthe next door school grounds. Nice neighbours. all living at your’s and my expense in a HNZ house.

What matters is love and care. The rest is semantics.
But I doubt you will ever understand that.
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March 2, 2013 8:29pm
Harriet

Nup. 😎
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March 2, 2013 8:29pm
Johnboy

God you are so churlish V2.

When David/Russell/Hone becomes our next PM the extra tax you will get to pay will give those poor HNZ folks you just mentioned a heat pump/insulation/new carpet etc.

Once they feel that the rest of us value them as citizens they will stop being so naughty! 🙂
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March 2, 2013 8:38pm
wiseowl

kaiser report now.
RT.tv
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March 2, 2013 8:38pm
Harriet

“….What matters is love and care.. The rest is semantics….”

What matters is parenting. Gays can care, love and nuture children, but that is not all that parenting is.

A child in a gay relationship, will be suffering the loss of one or both of their parents their entire childhood. And it is manufactured loss. In unfortunate situations in the past when children have suffered the loss of a parent[s] their priority as children is what is addressed first.
If a child is fully adopted into a gay relationship, that child would have lost both his mother and father – and had them replaced with a father/father mother/mother: a second order arrangement. Manufactured second best practice.

No it is not semantics – for children, in ‘their’ childhood !
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March 2, 2013 8:40pm
Johnboy

Surely Harriet if Donna dresses in a Dolly Parton outfit and Lynda dresses as a good old rootin, shootin, and fishin bloke (as I have heard) any sprogs would be in no doubt at all who their father was? 🙂
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March 2, 2013 8:49pm
Viking2

Rubbish.

Thousands of kids lost their parents in hundreds of wars onlyto be raised by strangers.
Are you saying that all the kids felt lonely, abandoned and grew up as societies rubbish.
Because if you are you display a total ignorance and a lack of knowledge and contact with lots of them.
Sure they would have rather had mum and dad but various factors beyond their control decided it wasn’t to be.
That didn’t necessarily destroy all those young lives.

What ever works.
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March 2, 2013 8:52pm
Viking2

One for you johnboy.

http://screencast.com/t/kPfeXQ3c7tE
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March 2, 2013 8:55pm
Viking2

Oh and two for Harriet and friends.

http://screencast.com/t/D6nTXYpZX0

http://screencast.com/t/4n62sevf
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March 2, 2013 8:56pm
Viking2

And for the God botherers.

http://screencast.com/t/dnih10Xfohc
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March 2, 2013 8:59pm
Johnboy

He he. I just pray for another round of free drinks to help make me as gay as I can be! 🙂
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March 2, 2013 8:59pm
Johnboy

Now we know what Gareth Morgan REALLY fears!!!! 🙂 🙂
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March 2, 2013 9:01pm
Viking2

For a bit of fun for the adults and kids.

http://screencast.com/t/53IsWeAW
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March 2, 2013 9:03pm
Viking2

Anniversary of Edgecumbe earthquake

Saturday, 2, Mar, 2013 4:44PM

Today marks the 26th anniversary of a powerful earthquake that ripped through the eastern Bay of Plenty.

March 2, 1987 was a Monday, and just after 1.42PM a shallow quake of 6.3 on the Richter scale caused widespread damage in the area and was felt over most of the North Island.

More than fifty per cent of houses in Edgecumbe were damaged.

An 80 tonne locomotive was rolled over.

A seven kilometre rift – over one metre wide and two metres deep in parts – tore through the Rangitaiki Plains.

Over 6,000 domestic and industrial insurance claims were made, the largest was for more than $140 million, for the Bay Milk dairy processing plant.

Samlkl by conparison to Chch. But it could happen again anytime.
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March 2, 2013 9:09pm
Viking2

This will get all your mates goin johnboy. Gillard chopping the climate change dept.

In this climate, one department’s not safe

by: JOE KELLY
From: The Australian
March 02, 2013 12:00AM

LABOR is considering dissolving the $218 million-a-year Climate Change Department as part of a cost-saving restructure that could see it merged with another government bureaucracy.

The department is part of a $1.6 billion-a-year climate change behemoth in place to administer the government’s carbon tax. It also includes the Clean Energy Regulator, the Climate Change Authority and the Office of the Renewable Energy Regulator.
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March 2, 2013 9:15pm
Viking2

A BRISBANE burger joint is facing a consumer backlash after they delivered condoms to letterboxes across Brisbane to promote their beef patties.

The condom packets bear the slogan ”get intimate with our new premium beef” and were delivered to letterboxes across New Farm, West End and Kelvin Grove at the weekend.
– See more at: http://www.couriermail.com.au/questnews/central/the-boys-at-burger-urge-and-their-latest-marketing-stunt-thats-offending-customers/story-fn8m0qb4-1226535608322#sthash.t25wLVLO.dpuf
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March 2, 2013 9:22pm
Viking2

THE advertising watchdog has thrown out a complaint against a Brisbane burger joint after they used an image of a woman licking a cow’s face to promote their premium beef.

The Advertising Standards Board dismissed the complaint which described the Burger Urge image as loathsome, sick, wrong and perverted.

But the Board ruled most people would realise the image had been photoshopped, and while it would be considered distasteful by most people, it was not overly sexualised or provocative.
– See more at: http://www.couriermail.com.au/questnews/central/christians-upset-over-the-poster-of-a-woman-licking-a-cow-to-promote-a-burger-chain/story-fn8m0qb4-1226587066208#sthash.qmNiOBOg.dpuf
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March 2, 2013 9:26pm
Left Right and Centre

Pet hates:

Pseudo American kiwi morons.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/8371864/Kids-TV-more-American-than-US

“I have noticed some Americanisms slipping into his language. But it comes from the music too. We are so immersed in American culture here – it’s a bit grotesque.”- Kiwi genius mother Michelle Lander finds Americanisms grotesque and yet the irony of naming her child a US inspired and copied first name ‘Hunter’ escapes the woman. Fucking hell what a fuckwit.

And don’t name your child India. That’s just wrong mate. Sorry Philip Leishman but that’s eye-roll stuff. Hello? Why not call your kid Greece? Or Rotovegas? Fucking idiots.
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