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March 28, 2013 8:00am by Kokila Patel

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Ross12

Griff

You are showing yourself up as an absolute idiot. If you had looked at the link you would have seen the actual PAPER.
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March 28, 2013 6:26pm
Kea

A recent NASA report throws the space agency into conflict with it’s climatologists after new NASA measurements prove that carbon dioxide acts as a coolant in Earth’s atmosphere.

NASA’s Langley Research Center has collated data proving that “greenhouse gases” actually block up to 95 percent of harmful solar rays from reaching our planet, thus reducing the heating impact of the sun. The data was collected by Sounding of the Atmosphere using Broadband Emission Radiometry, (or SABER). SABER monitors infrared emissions from Earth’s upper atmosphere, in particular from carbon dioxide (CO2) and nitric oxide (NO), two substances thought to be playing a key role in the energy balance of air above our planet’s surface.

NASA’s Langley Research Center instruments show that the thermosphere not only received a whopping 26 billion kilowatt hours of energy from the sun during a recent burst of solar activity, but that in the upper atmospheric carbon dioxide and nitrous oxide molecules sent as much as 95% of that radiation straight back out into space.
The shock revelation starkly contradicts the core proposition of the so-called greenhouse gas theory which claims that more CO2 means more warming for our planet. However, this compelling new NASA data disproves that notion and is a huge embarrassment for NASA’s chief climatologist, Dr James Hansen and his team over at NASA’s GISS.

Griff bye bye, Its been fun 🙂
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March 28, 2013 6:30pm
Longknives

Shocking stuff- I hope Jesse Ryder is okay. We were just talking in the office yesterday where he would fit back into the NZ Test and One Day sides…all his problems aside the kid sure can bat!
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March 28, 2013 6:44pm
Griff

Ross12
Would you like the conclusion of the paper?
http://iopscience.iop.org/1748-9326/8/1/011006

The principal implication of our present analysis probably relates to the Faustian bargain. Increased short-term masking of greenhouse gas warming by fossil fuel particulate and nitrogen pollution represents a ‘doubling down’ of the Faustian bargain, an increase in the stakes. The more we allow the Faustian debt to build, the more unmanageable the eventual consequences will be. Yet globally there are plans to build more than 1000 coal-fired power plants (Yang and Cui 2012) and plans to develop some of the dirtiest oil sources on the planet (EIA 2011). These plans should be vigorously resisted. We are already in a deep hole—it is time to stop digging.

Faustian bargain
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deal_with_the_Devil
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March 28, 2013 7:07pm
slijmbal

On the EQC blunders

What I find curious is that it is common practise in the corporations I deal with to zip (compress) and password protect any emails sent with sensitive data in an attachment. This is because an email is more like a postcard than a letter – as the Internet is a cooperative enterprise any intermediate server forwarding the email can see its content. It is also to protect from email accidents such as these.

This is not rocket science.
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March 28, 2013 7:19pm
SPC

It is long past time to deter people from kicking people in the head while they are on the ground – up the charge from GBH to attempted murder and put someone in prison for as decade, maybe 4 people.
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March 28, 2013 7:26pm
Kea

SPC, we will see half the Police force in jail if you do that.
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March 28, 2013 7:34pm
SPC

Ridiculous hyperbole, about 1 in 20, you have been debating with conservative extremists for too long on the other thread.
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March 28, 2013 7:40pm
Kea

Yeah I know SPC, but I love hearing those who worship authority figures as Gods, scream 😉

I also could have added that some people resist arrest in a BIG way and a few kicks may actually be “reasonable force”. But that would spoil all the fun.
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March 28, 2013 7:50pm
Viking2

Almost 10 months since the body of Paeroa businessman Jordan Voudouris was discovered outside his pizza restaurant, police are still appealing for information to help find the killer.

Jordan was found dead at the rear of his pizza store and home, Mykonos Pizza and Pasta, on June 18, 2012.
It was later revealed by police he was shot dead just outside the back door of the premises.

And noe we have the lolipopand. George.

Is it possible that the same fruit cake did these killings?
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March 28, 2013 7:59pm
nasska

So Easter is coming up, a holiday that we use to celebrate the day that Jesus rose from the dead… By eating chocolate eggs… That are delivered by a rabbit.

Who was smoking what, when they came up with that shit?
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March 28, 2013 8:00pm
SPC

Kea, a bit old fashioned, today they use the taser or pepper spray.

And about time, most cops today never played rugby when rucking was legal.
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March 28, 2013 8:00pm
Viking2

Berkowitz is having a drink at his hotel when he spots a beautiful young woman at the other end of the bar. “Bartender,” he says, “give that lady whatever she likes, and put it on my tab.”

When the drink is delivered, the woman gives Berkowitz a warm smile. A moment later he’s at her side.

“That was very kind of you,” she says. “Won’t you sit down?”

After a few minutes of small talk, she says, “Let me be honest with you. You’re a very nice man, but I don’t think you realize that I’m a professional. I’d be delighted to go upstairs with you for a hundred dollars. Now, if that’s not what you had in mind, I certainly understand, and I’ll say good-bye now, no hard feelings.”

“I’m surprised,” says Berkowitz. “But you’re a beautiful lady, and I like you, too. I’ve never done something like this before, but sure, let’s go upstairs.”

When they get to Berkowitz’s room, he says, “I was wondering. There’s something about you that makes me think you might be Jewish.”

“Well, I am,” she replies a little defensively. “Why do you ask?”

“Well, I’m Jewish, too,” says Berkowitz. “And since we’re both Jewish, I was hoping you would give me a discount.”

“Dammit,” she replies, “I was afraid this would happen. Okay, twenty percent off. But I want you to know, at these prices I’m not making any profit!”
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March 28, 2013 8:08pm
Steve (North Shore)

cows4me
and others. Farmers in their spare time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USSqImeXtBI
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March 28, 2013 8:25pm
OECD rank 22 kiwi

New Zealand hitting the international news with the Jesse Ryder story.

Sort yourselfs out New Zealand/Christchurch.
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March 28, 2013 8:29pm
kowtow

actually nasska you came up with that shit or more likely being the unoriginal bore that you are got it off the internet.
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March 28, 2013 8:35pm
Steve (North Shore)

http://www.pictogame.com/en/play/game/jB3GFnCCKEPb_kick-trevor-mallard
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March 28, 2013 8:43pm
nasska

Pope Benedict resigned, saying that at 85 he didn’t have the strength or energy to carry out his duties.
A few months ago, at 87, Hugh Hefner married his 26 year old girlfriend.
Doesn’t say much for a life of celibacy, does it?”
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March 28, 2013 8:46pm
axeman

“Climate change has become a religion and any diversion from the orthodox view is pounced on as evidence of heretical wickedness.
Those who beg to differ about the global warming creed are held up as wicked rather than merely sceptical.” 🙂

http://www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/384989/Eco-taxes-are-nonsense-if-the-earth-isn-t-warming
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March 28, 2013 10:19pm
SPC

axeman, when the smog over India and China clears (when their coal runs out), then AGW will kick in big time.
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March 28, 2013 10:30pm
SPC

The 1996 Defence of Marriage Act looks likely to be struck down by the Supreme Court.

With liberals and conservatives 4-4, the swing vote is in favour of states rights over federal imposition of any discrimination over the type of marriage.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/28/us/supreme-court-defense-of-marriage-act.html?hp&_r=0

However this does not mean that state bans on same sex marriages will also be struck down.
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March 28, 2013 10:33pm
axeman

“axeman, when the smog over India and China clears (when their coal runs out), then AGW will kick in big time.”

Wow SPC you missed putting up some smiley faces after that gorgeous piece of sarcasm 🙂

Obviously you missed the memo late last year where more than 1,000 coal-fired power plants are being planned worldwide, with about three-quarters in China and India! The capacity of the new plants add up to 1,400GW to global greenhouse gas emissions, the equivalent of adding another China – the world’s biggest emitter.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/nov/20/coal-plants-world-resources-institute

Meanwhile the CAGW hypothesis is looking increasingly threadbare. If only we had listened to “experts” like Beddington …… 🙂
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100208918/global-warming-if-only-wed-listened-to-the-experts-eh/
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March 28, 2013 10:53pm
cha

I’m following the SCOTUS blog SPC.

http://www.scotusblog.com/2013/03/evening-round-up-doma-argument/
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March 28, 2013 10:55pm
SPC

axeman, the smog from their coal burning reduces solar heating while the smog is there, once their coal runs out then AGW will kick in big time. The emissions last longer than the smog.
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March 28, 2013 10:55pm
axeman

Really? From Die Welt (Sep 2010) “By 2030, Spring will begin already at the end of January” 🙂

http://notrickszone.com/2013/03/25/lol-die-welt-september-2010-by-2030-spring-will-begin-already-at-the-end-of-january/
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March 28, 2013 11:26pm
SPC

Yes really. Not so sure about an early spring or a major change within 20 years.
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March 28, 2013 11:45pm
Shunda barunda

There are reasons why spring can’t begin at the end of January regardless of how much climate changes.

I’ll give you a hint, climate doesn’t drive the seasons! 🙂
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March 28, 2013 11:59pm
Manolo

For the pothead’s attention: http://sultanknish.blogspot.com.au/2013/03/night-falls-on-civilization.html
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