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February 7, 2013 8:00am by Kokila Patel

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Griff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=u_0JZRIHFtk
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February 7, 2013 9:32pm
Viking2

Encryption app takes secrecy to a new level

Date
February 6, 2013

For the past few months, some of the world’s leading cryptographers have been keeping a closely guarded secret about a pioneering new invention. Now they’ve decided it’s time to tell all.

Back in October, the startup tech firm Silent Circle ruffled governments’ feathers with a “surveillance-proof” smartphone app to allow people to make secure phone calls and send texts easily.

Now, the company is pushing things even further, with a groundbreaking encrypted data transfer app that will enable people to send files securely from a smartphone or tablet at the touch of a button. (For now, it’s just being released for iPhones and iPads, though Android versions should come soon.) That means photographs, videos, spreadsheets, you name it – sent scrambled from one person to another in a matter of seconds.

Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/digital-life/smartphone-apps/encryption-app-takes-secrecy-to-a-new-level-20130206-2dycc.html#ixzz2KCUshnyZ
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February 7, 2013 9:40pm
krazykiwi

Oh griff, you poor wee thing. Simple, pretty graphs (with undescribed sources, adjustments, methodology), and pre-school quality commentary that combine to confirm your worst fears. You really are beyond rational debate.
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February 7, 2013 9:40pm
tristanb

“A morbidly obese man dying of liver cancer has been awarded $AU350,000 ($NZ431,700) from his doctor because the GP failed to refer him to a weight-loss clinic or send him for lap-band surgery. ”
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/8275135/Obese-man-wins-432-000-payout-from-GP

Surprise, surprise. He’s was a “Colombian-born former left-wing revolutionary and one-time candidate for State Parliament”.

No wonder he got so fat. Greedy lefties.
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February 7, 2013 9:41pm
krazykiwi

V2 – so they’ve copied RIM’s BES server and designed it to connect with a variety of OS’s. Worth $20/month? Time will tell.
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February 7, 2013 9:45pm
Griff

Actually this is the level its aimed at.

As diagnosed here.

http://www.shapingtomorrowsworld.org/lewandowskyRecFury.html

The involvement of conspiracist ideation in science denial.

By one of those cognitive experts.
You know the guys in white coats who help with the cognitive dissonance. 😉
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February 7, 2013 9:53pm
Hodor

Climate change debate again? BORING

What I want to know is why everyone is making such a fuss over Paul Holmes? Sure he was around a long time and stood by the HIV kid and Millie when she was in her “honk on the crack pipe” phase but I always got the feeling it was more about him.

No one I have asked really rated him that much so I dont really know why he got knighted? Happy for someone to set me straight but in my book people who ACTUALLY make a difference like cops, firemen, doctors, nurses, teachers, surf lifesavers etc deserve to be rewarded.
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February 7, 2013 9:53pm
Griff

http://esciencenews.com/articles/2013/02/06/features.southeast.european.human.ancestors.influenced.lack.episodic.glaciations
according to research published February 6 in the open access journal PLOS ONE by William Jack Rink of McMaster University, Canada, and the international team under the direction of Dušan Mihailović, University of Belgrade, Serbia, and Mirjana Roksandic, University of Winnipeg, Canada. The fossil was found to be at least 397,000 years old and possibly older than 525,000 years old, a time when distinctly Neandertal traits began to appear in Europe. The evolution of these traits was strongly influenced by periodic isolation of groups of individuals, caused by episodic formation of glaciers. Humans in southeastern Europe were never geographically isolated from Asia and Africa by glaciers, and according to the authors, this resulted in different evolutionary forces acting on early human populations in this region.

Who’d a thunk westerners are Neanderthal crosses. Hybrid vigor?

John boy was right
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February 7, 2013 10:04pm
bereal

nice post Hodor. @ 9.53

Well done.

Look forward to more common sense from u in future,
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February 7, 2013 10:06pm
Longknives

Hodor- I believe the knighthood was Holmes’idea himself?
I found it bloody hypocritical that he threw his toys out of the cot and tried to end some careers when the media dared to report that his beloved daughter had become a crack whore. This from a guy who spent half his life digging dirt on people…
Not a fan at all.
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February 7, 2013 10:15pm
Hodor

Bereal, as I said, happy for someone to point out the reasons why he was knighted
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February 7, 2013 10:20pm
Kea

Griff, Many folk wrongly think of Neanderthals as our ancestors, when they are usually considered a different branch of the family tree altogether. However a bit of cross breeding has often been contemplated. They were, for rather a long time, the dominant hominid.

I note with interest the reference to “episodic formation of glaciers” which speaks to a highly variable range climatic norms, with warming leading to the development of modern man. 🙂
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February 7, 2013 10:21pm
Kea

Griff (4,214) Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 9:19 pm

I will leave this up Kea deleted his post

No Kea did not delete anything.

In fact I do not recall ever deleting a post. However, It does lead us rather smoothly to this:

The involvement of conspiracist ideation in science denial.

By one of those cognitive experts.
You know the guys in white coats who help with the cognitive dissonance.

By conspiracy you mean people who imagine comments mysteriously vanishing from KB and a global "climate experiment" being conducted by BIG OIL and the shadowy Carbon Industry ?

Griff, get a grip. I don’t post after a bottle of vodka, you should not after huffing on your bong all night sitting in your boat waiting for the global flood. 😉
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February 7, 2013 10:31pm
bereal

People may wonder why
morons like Griff or Kea dont get a life.

Of course the answer is they like fucking each other,
they love it, the retards,
these fucking drongs can keep it up for day after day,
week after week, year after year.

Just watch as these morons prove the point, Kea and Griff
Griff and Kea, Kea and Griff
Etc. etc.
Guess what.
These fucking retards will have another go at each other again tonight.

How sad,
as my 10 year old daughter would say,
just saddos.
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February 7, 2013 10:39pm
Griff

Glug Glug teach
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February 7, 2013 10:41pm
axeman

GRIEF says “I am sure many people around the world have come to the conclusion that all the science is actually right. ” Bwahahahahaha

Just over one month into the year and the gwiffknuckle’s CAGW theory is being punched around the ring. 🙂

To recap, 2012 was an unprecedented year of disaster and defeat for the Greens and warming alarmists, it was a year that on the face of it offered much hope to the watermelons, in June there was going to be the Rio+20 Earth Summit, COP18 in Doha was going to build on the progress of COP17 and the Durban Platform and the European Union was going to single-handedly enforce a flying tax on the world.

Instead it all went to hell in solar powered hand cart, as Green defeat followed Green defeat.

2013 Will Be The Worst Year For Warmists Since Records Began
http://toryaardvark.com/2013/01/02/2013-will-be-the-worst-year-for-warmists-since-records-began/

The start of the worst year for ALARMISTS began on January 1st when Russia announced that it will never sign up to a new Kyoto, which means the other major emitters like China, US and India will never sign up either, without the so called major emitters the whole premise of a climate agreement is worthless, and 2013 is the year the truth will finally sink in for Big Green.

Then a leading German Daily Announces: “Global Warming Has Stopped”, Questions IPCC Models

“It took them 15 years to notice it: CO2 is not driving the climate.”
By P Gosselin on 8. January 2013

German online daily Hamburger Abendblatt here has a story titled: Global Warming Takes A Break, citing the leaked copy of the IPCC Fifth Assessment Report, which is due to be released in September, 2013. The Hamburger Abendblatt writes:

“The preliminary text is very clear that the global temperature increase does not follow the continuous rise of CO2 emissions. That’s water on the water-wheel of climate skeptics, who argue that it is more the impacts of the sun that warm the Earth, and greenhouse gases, mainly CO2, less so.”

The Hamburger Abendblatt asks:

“Just how reliable are computer simulations that, although they correctly predicted the CO2 increase of the last 15 years, were completely off with the temperature development?”

Global temperatures have stagnated since the new millennium began. To answer that question, the German daily asks (alarmist) professor Jochem Marotzke, Director of the Max Planck Institute für Meteorology in Hamburg. He told the Abendblatt: “Such plateaus also show up in our models. In such periods heat is absorbed more by the depths of the oceans. We can’t explain why this is so.”

Maybe plateaus do show up in the models here and there. But none of the models showed a plateau for the last 15 years.

Marotzke then insists that the record low Arctic sea ice extent measured last summer shows that things are heating up. Yet, strangely, he develops amnesia when it come to the Antarctic record high sea ice extent recorded last fall.

The Abendblatt also writes that Marotzke is also annoyed that the IPCC AR5 draft was released prematurely, claiming that “it didn’t belong in public” and that “It is like stealing an unfinished car from the factory and then complaining that it is not complete.”

Marotzke adds:

“Anyone who signs up via the Internet and says he is an expert participates in the process. He only has to name 5 publications, which however are not assessed by the IPCC. We simply expect the information to be true. This openness makes us vulnerable.”

http://www.abendblatt.de/ratgeber/wissen/article112396213/Die-Erderwaermung-macht-erst-mal-Pause.html

Concerning his “unfinished car” analogy, Marotzke is saying that they forgot to put on the hood to hide the fact that the car doesn’t have, and never will have, a CO2 engine.

Marotzke says “Such plateaus also show up in our models. In such periods heat is absorbed more by the depths of the oceans. We can’t explain why this is so.” Then maybe we should stop asking the lavishly funded bureaucrat scientist stand-ins such complicated questions so they can concentrate on getting their next report cleaned up; They still have quite a lot of stuff to sweep under the rug.

They have busy schedules. They constantly need to travel from one tax payer funded congress to the next, not to mention the EU funded prices they need to collect for their efforts of saving the planet.

The German scientists report states that “Global Warming Is Taking A Break“. And that’s hard to miss when you look at the latest global temperature chart in the following link:

http://notrickszone.com/2013/01/09/ocean-heat-content-based-model-by-german-scientists-shows-continued-global-cooling/

“We should not wonder that the first quarter of 2013 will be approx. one tenth of a degree C cooler than the previous months because the push by the last mini El Nino, which ended in fall 2012, is over. After a slight warming of a few hundredths of a degree in the second quarter of 2013, a tenth of a degree of cooling can be expected for the fall of 2013. This of course is only if no huge ENSO event occurs during the 2nd half of 2013.”
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February 7, 2013 11:26pm
axeman

Then a new study by Israeli Earth Scientists finds “No Significant Human-Induced Warming”

“…our rejection of AGW is not absolute; it might be a false positive, and we cannot rule out the possibility that recent global warming has an anthropogenic footprint. However, this possibility is very small, and is not statistically significant at conventional levels.”

At the journal Earth System Dynamics, M. Beenstock, Y. Reingewertz, and N. Paldor have published a paper titled “Polynomial cointegration tests of anthropogenic impact on global warming”. The authors conducted an exhaustive statistical analysis of data from 1850 through 2007, applying the technique of cointegration, which the authors describe as follows:

Cointegration theory is based on the simple notion that time series might be highly correlated even though there is no causal relation between them. For the relation to be genuine, the residuals from a regression between these time series must be stationary, in which case the time series are “cointegrated”. Since stationary residuals mean-revert to zero, there must be a genuine long-term relationship between the series, which move together over time because they share a common trend. If on the other hand, the residuals are nonstationary, the residuals do not mean-revert to zero, the time series do not share a common trend, and the relationship between them is spurious because the time series are not cointegrated.

You can follow the link http://www.earth-syst-dynam-discuss.net/3/561/2012/esdd-3-561-2012.html for the statistical details, but here is the authors’ conclusion:

We have shown that anthropogenic forcings do not polynomially cointegrate with global temperature and solar irradiance. Therefore, data for 1880–2007 do not support the anthropogenic interpretation of global warming during this period. This key result is shown graphically in Fig. 3 where the vertical axis measures the component of global temperature that is unexplained by solar irradiance according to our estimates. In panel a the horizontal axis measures the anomaly in the anthropogenic trend when the latter is derived from forcings of carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide. In panel b the horizontal axis measures this anthropogenic anomaly when apart from these greenhouse gas forcings, it includes tropospheric aerosols and black carbon. Panels a and b both show that there is no relationship between temperature and the anthropogenic anomaly, once the warming effect of solar irradiance is taken into consideration.

Interestingly, the authors also conclude that the data admit the possibility that CO2 and other “greenhouse gases” could contribute to to a temporary increase in global temperatures:

However, we find that greenhouse gas forcings might have a temporary effect on global temperature. This result is illustrated in panel c of Fig. 3 in which the horizontal axis measures the change in the estimated anthropogenic trend. Panel c clearly shows that there is a positive relationship between temperature and the change in the anthropogenic anomaly once the warming effect of solar irradiance is taken into consideration.

Other scientists will weigh in on these findings, as the debate over climate continues to rage. Still, it is increasingly clear that the most reliable and sophisticated scientific work tends to show that the ANTHROPOGENIC GLOBAL WARMING HYPOTHESIS is WRONG. In that sense, it is fair to say that a consensus is emerging.
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February 7, 2013 11:28pm
Kea

bereal (2,374) Says:
February 7th, 2013 at 10:39 pm
People may wonder why
morons like Griff or Kea dont get a life.

Of course the answer is they like fucking each other,
they love it, the retards,
these fucking drongs can keep it up for day after day,
week after week, year after year.

Griff, you should help out our buddy bereal and send the poor chap a bag of weed. I think the booze is not working for him.

See ya back here later for more fucking 🙂
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February 8, 2013 12:15am
bereal

Actually, an effing drong such as Kea can keep it up 4 even longer than i thort.
On and on and on sum more,
12.15 am and still at it.

bet he can’t stand not having the last word.
The poor weak sod.
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February 8, 2013 12:34am
axeman

Just for you Kea …. Andrew Bolt fisking the CAGW nutters

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/in_the_faint_hope_that_emerson_has_an_open_mind/
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