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Kea

Thanks iMP.

A METEOR shower caused explosions in the lower atmosphere above Russia’s Urals region, blowing out windows in some areas and leaving several people injured.

“A meteorite exploded above the Chelyabinsk region (of the Urals). The shock wave blew out windows in several places,” but no meteor fragments hit the ground, an emergencies ministry spokesman told the Interfax news agency.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/meteorite-strike-blast-injures-russians/story-e6frg6so-1226578992644
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February 15, 2013 7:27pm
thedavincimode

PG @ 11.42am

PG, you are missing the point. So back to the classroom and read what he said and what you said. Your response was so well oiled with self-justification that it started to slide down my screen. This was very disconcerting and gave me a health scare because I hadn’t touched a drop.
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February 15, 2013 7:56pm
axeman

“In the real world we have.
Obama
U.S. President Barack Obama told the nation that he’s prepared to “act before it’s too late” and combat climate change through the White House if Congress is unwilling to lead.”

WTF?

As uberALARMIST James Hansen put it in 2009: President ‘has four years to save Earth’

Now in 2013 more CAGW nutjobs said: MIT to Obama: Only 4 years left to stop global warming
https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/01/12/obama-granted-last-minute-reprieve/

The CO2 gods are truly merciful and benevolent. 🙂 🙂
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February 15, 2013 7:58pm
nasska

The teacher answered the door and one of his pupils was standing there holding a can of spray paint.

“Sorry to disturb you at home Sir,” he said, “but how do you spell your surname, and is there an ‘a’ in ‘pedophile’?”
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February 15, 2013 8:00pm
axeman

“Meteorites are falling over Russia right now ahead of the asteroid at 2.30am Sat NZ time”

Don’t you know it is all the fault of that evil GLOBAL WARMING 🙂

http://i0.wp.com/www.whaleoil.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/image0031.jpeg?fit=517%2C272

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ObU7awpJctQ
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February 15, 2013 8:02pm
Griff

Warning heavy flurry of nut Job links.
😆
Nothing like a climate denial nutter for a laugh.
conspirowhackys r go
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February 15, 2013 8:14pm
Kea

“conspirowhackys”

Like BIG OIL and the shadowy “Carbon Industry” ?

(Carbon means organic. All known life is carbon based. Griff likes to play on peoples ignorance and have them think carbon is a bad thing or a pollutant. It simply means Organic. Things like carrots, kittens, dolphins and crude oil are all organic.)
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February 15, 2013 8:19pm
Kea

axeman (136) Says:
February 15th, 2013 at 8:02 pm
“Meteorites are falling over Russia right now ahead of the asteroid at 2.30am Sat NZ time”

Don’t you know it is all the fault of that evil GLOBAL WARMING

Check out the link. Its fun 🙂

http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm

A complete list of things caused by global warming

Apologies for a temporary delay in updating the dead link list

AIDS, Afghan poppies destroyed, African holocaust, aged deaths, poppies more potent, Africa devastated, Africa in conflict, African aid threatened, aggressive weeds, Air France crash, air pockets, air pressure changes, airport farewells virtual, airport malaria, Agulhas current, Alaskan towns slowly destroyed, Al Qaeda and Taliban Being Helped, allergy increase, allergy season longer, alligators in the Thames, Alps melting, Amazon a desert, American dream end, amphibians breeding earlier (or not), anaphylactic reactions to bee stings, ancient forests dramatically changed, animals head for the hills, animals shrink, Antarctic grass flourishes, Antarctic ice grows, Antarctic ice shrinks, Antarctic sea life at risk, anxiety treatment, algal blooms, archaeological sites threatened, Arctic bogs melt, Arctic in bloom, Arctic ice free, Arctic ice melt faster, Arctic lakes disappear, Arctic tundra lost, Arctic warming (not), a rose by any other name smells of nothing, asteroid strike risk, asthma, Atlantic less salty, Atlantic more salty, atmospheric circulation modified, attack of the killer jellyfish, avalanches reduced, avalanches increased, Baghdad snow, Bahrain under water, bananas grow, barbarisation, bats decline, beer and bread prices to soar, beer better, beer worse, beetle infestation, beef shortage, bet for $10,000, big melt faster, billion dollar research projects, billion homeless, billions face risk, billions of deaths, bird loss accelerating, bird populations dying, bird strikes, bird visitors drop, birds confused, birds decline (Wales), birds driven north, birds face longer migrations, birds on long migrations threatened, birds return early, birds shrink(Aus), birds shrink (USA), bittern boom ends, blackbirds stop singing, blackbirds threatened, Black Hawk down, blizzards, blood contaminated, blue mussels return, borders redrawn, bluetongue, brains shrink, brewers droop, bridge collapse (Minneapolis), Britain one big city, Britain Siberian, Britain’s bananas, British monsoon, brothels struggle, brown Ireland, bubonic plague, Buddhist temple threatened, building collapse, building season extension, bushfires, butterflies move north, butterflies reeling, butterfly saved, carbon crimes, caribou decline, Cambodian sex trade fuelled, camel deaths, cancer, cancer deaths in England, cannibalism, cataracts, cats more amorous, caterpillar biomass shift, cave paintings threatened, chagas disease, childhood insomnia, children’s mental health, chocolate shortage, Cholera, circumcision in decline, cirrus disappearance, civil unrest, cloud increase, clownfish get lost, coast beauty spots lost, cockroach migration, cod go south, coffee threatened, coffee berry borer, coffee berry disease, cold climate creatures survive, cold spells, cold spells (Australia), colder waters (Long Island), cold wave (India), cold weather (world), cold winters, computer models, conferences, conflict, conflict with Russia, consumers foot the bill, coral bleaching, coral fish suffer, coral reefs dying, coral reefs grow, coral reefs shrink, coral reefs twilight, cost of trillions, cougar attacks, crabgrass menace, cradle of civilisation threatened, creatures move uphill, crime increase, crocodile sex, crocodiles driven from water, crops devastated, crop failures increase, cross-breeding, crumbling roads, buildings and sewage systems, cryptococcal disease, curriculum change, cyclones (Australia), damselflies forced back to UK, danger to kid’s health, Darfur, Dartford Warbler plague, daylight increase, deadly virus outbreaks, death rate increase (US), death rate drop, deaths to reach 6 million, decades of progress at risk, Dengue hemorrhagic fever, depression, desert advance, desert retreat, destruction of the environment, dig sites threatened, disasters, diseases move north, diving reefs closed, dog disease, dozen deadly diseases – or not, drought, ducks and geese decline, dust bowl in the corn belt, dust doubles, earlier pollen season, Earth axis tilt, Earth biodiversity crisis, Earth crumbling, Earth dying, Earth even hotter, Earth light dimming, Earth lopsided, Earth melting, Earth morbid fever, Earth on fast track, Earth past point of no return, Earth slowing down, Earth spins faster, Earth to explode, earth upside down, earthquakes, earthquakes redux, El Niño intensification, end of the world as we know it, erosion, emerging infections, encephalitis, English villages lost, equality threatened, Europe simultaneously baking and freezing, eutrophication, everyplace hit hardest, expansion of university climate groups, extinctions (apes, human, civilisation, koalas, lizards, logic, Inuit, smallest butterfly, cod, penguins, pikas, polar bears, possums, walrus, tigers, toads, turtles, pandas, penguins, plants, ladybirds, rhinoceros, salmon, trout, wild flowers, woodlice, a million species, half of all animal and plant species, mountain species, not polar bears, barrier reef, leaches, salamanders, tropical insects, flowers) experts muzzled, extreme changes to California, fading fall foliage, famine, farmers benefit, farmers go under, farm output boost, farming soil decline, fashion disaster, fever, figurehead sacked, fir cone bonanza, fires fanned in Nepal, fish bigger, fish catches drop, fish downsize, fish deaf, fish feminised, fish get lost, fish head north, fish lopsided, fish shrinking, fish stocks at risk, fish stocks decline, five million illnesses, flesh eating disease, flies on Everest, flood patterns change, floods, floods of beaches and cities, flood of migrants, flood preparation for crisis, flora dispersed, Florida economic decline, flowers in peril, flowers wilt, flying squirrels move up, fog increase in San Francisco, fog decrease in San Francisco, food poisoning, food prices rise, food prices soar, food production increased, food safety affected, food security threat (SA), football team migration, forest decline, forest expansion, foundations threatened, foundations increase grants, frog with extra heads, frosts, frostbite, frost damage increased, fungi fruitful, fungi invasion, fungi rot the world, games change, Garden of Eden wilts, geese decline in Hampshire, genetic changes, genetic diversity decline, gene pools slashed, geysers imperiled, giant icebergs (Australia), giant icebergs (Arctic), giant oysters invade, giant pythons invade, giant squid migrate, gingerbread houses collapse, glacial earthquakes, glacial retreat, glacier grows (California), glaciers on Snowden, glacier wrapped, glass melts, global cooling, glowing clouds, golf course to drown, golf Masters wrecked, grain output drop (China), grain output stagnating (India), grandstanding, grasslands wetter, gravity shift, Great Barrier Reef 95% dead, great tits cope, greening of the North, Grey whales lose weight, Gulf Stream failure, habitat loss, haggis threatened, Hantavirus pulmonary syndrome, harvest increase, harvest shrinkage, hay fever epidemic, health affected, health of children harmed, health risks, health risks (even more), heart deaths, heart disease, heart attacks and strokes (Australia), heat waves, hedgehogs bald, hibernation affected, hibernation ends too soon, hibernation ends too late, homeless 50 million, home runs, hornets, human development faces unprecedented reversal, human fertility reduced, human health risk, human race oblivion, human rights violations, hurricanes, hurricane reduction, hurricanes fewer, hurricanes more intense, hurricanes not, hydropower problems, hyperthermia deaths, hyphthermia deaths, ice age, ice hockey extinct, ice sheet growth, ice sheet shrinkage, icebergs, ice sheet tipping point, illegal immigration, illness and death, inclement weather, India drowning, infrastructure failure (Canada), indigestion, industry threatened, infectious diseases, inflation in China, insect explosion, insect invasion, insurance premium rises, Inuit displacement, Inuit poisoned, Inuit suing, invasion of alien worms, invasion of Antarctic aliens, invasion of Asian carp, invasion of cane toads, invasion of caterpillars, invasion of cats, invasion of crabgrass, invasion of herons, invasion of jellyfish, invasion of king crabs, invasion of lampreys, invasion of midges, invasion of pine beetles, invasion of rats (China), invasion of slugs, island disappears, islands sinking, Italy robbed of pasta, itchier poison ivy, Japan’s cherry blossom threatened, jellyfish explosion, jets fall from sky, Kew Gardens taxed, kidney stones, killer cornflakes, killing us, kitten boom, koalas leaves inedible, koalas under threat, krill decline, lake empties, lake shrinking and growing, landslides, landslides of ice at 140 mph, large trees decline, lawsuits increase, lawsuit successful, lawyers’ income increased (surprise surprise!), lawyers want more, legionnaires’ surge, lives lost, lizards super intelligent, lives saved, lobsters grow, Loch Ness monster dead, locust plagues suppressed, low oxygen zones threaten sea life, lush growth in rain forests, Lyme disease, Major vegetation shifts, Malaria, Malaria decline, malnutrition, mammoth dung melt, mammoth ivory bonanza, manatees battle, mango harvest fails, Maple production advanced, Maple syrup shortage, marmots fatter, marine diseases, marine food chain decimated, Meaching (end of the world), Meat eating to stop, Mediterranean rises, megacryometeors, Melanoma, Melanoma decline, mental health decline, mental illness, methane emissions from plants, methane burps, methane runaway, melting permafrost, Mexican climate migrant flood, Middle Kingdom convulses, migration, migratory birds huge losses, microbes to decompose soil carbon more rapidly, milk production lost, minorities hit, monkeys at risk, monkeys on the move, Mont Blanc grows, monuments imperiled, moose dying, more bad air days, more research needed, mortality increased, mosquitoes adapting, mountain (Everest) shrinking, mountaineers fears, mountains break up, mountains green and flowering, mountains taller, mortality lower, Mubarak fall, murder rate increase, musk ox decline, Myanmar cyclone, narwhals at risk, narwhals suffocate, National Parks damaged, National security implications, native wildlife overwhelmed, natural disasters quadruple, neurological diseases, new islands, next ice age, NFL threatened, Nile delta damaged, noctilucent clouds, no effect in India, Northwest Passage opened, nuclear plants bloom, oaks dying, oaks move north, obesity, oblivion, ocean acidification, ocean acidification faster, ocean dead spots, ocean dead zones unleashed, ocean deserts expand, ocean salt extremes, ocean oxygen crisis, ocean waves speed up, Olympic Games to end, opera house to be destroyed, outdoor hockey threatened, owls turn brown, oxygen depletion zones, oyster herpes, ozone repair slowed, ozone rise, peat bogs problem, peat bogs no problem, penguin chicks frozen, penguin chicks smaller, penguins in the dark, penguin populations devastated, penguins replaced by jellyfish, penguins sex lives affected, personal carbon rationing, pest outbreaks, pests increase, pets in danger, phenology shifts, pines decline, pirate population decrease, pirates run rampant, plankton blooms, plankton plummeting, plankton wiped out, plants lose protein, plants march north, plants move uphill, polar bears aggressive, polar bears cannibalistic, polar bears deaf, polar bears drowning, polar bears fewer cubs, polar tours scrapped, pollination halved, porpoise astray, profits collapse, psychiatric illness, psychological effects, puffin decline, pushes poor women into prostitution, rabid bats, radars taken out, rail network threatened, railroad tracks deformed, rainfall increase, rainforest destruction, rape wave, refugees, reindeer endangered, reindeer larger, release of ancient frozen viruses, resorts disappear, respiratory diseases worsen, rice less fragrant, rice production fall, rice threatened, rice yields crash, rift on Capitol Hill, rioting and nuclear war, river flow impacted, river rerouted, rivers raised, road accidents, roads wear out, robins rampant, rocky peaks crack apart, roof of the world a desert, rooftop bars, Ross river disease, Russia under pressure, salinity reduction, salinity increase, Salmonella, salmon stronger, sardine run unpredictable, satellites accelerate, Schmallenberg virus, school closures, sea level rise, sea level rise faster, sea snot, seals mating more, seismic activity, sewer bills rise, severe thunderstorms, sex change, sexual dysfunction, sexual promiscuity, shark attacks, sharks booming, sharks hybridise, sharks moving north, sheep change colour, sheep shrink, shop closures, short-nosed dogs endangered, shrimp sex problems, shrinking ponds, shrinking sheep, shrinking shrine, Sidney Opera House wiped out, ski resorts threatened, slavery, skinks impacted, slow death, smaller brains, smog, snowfall decrease, snowfall increase, snowfall heavy, snow thicker, soaring food prices, societal collapse, soil change, soil subsidence, songbirds change eating habits, sour grapes, soybean crop to drop, space junk increase, space problem, spectacular orchids, spider danger in UK, spider bites to increase, spiders getting bigger, spiders invade Scotland, squid aggressive giants, squid larger, squid population explosion, squid tamed, squirrels reproduce earlier, starfish sperm eaten by parasites, stingray invasion, storm damage costs rise, storms wetter, stratospheric cooling, street crime to increase, subsidence, suicide, sunset displaced, swordfish in the Baltic, Tabasco tragedy, taxes, tea flavour change, tectonic plate movement, teenage prostitution, terrorists (India), thatched cottages at risk, threat to peace, ticks move northward (Sweden), tides rise, tigers eat people, tigers drown, tomatoes rot, tornado outbreak, tourism increase, toxic bacteria, toxic seaweed, trade barriers, trade winds weakened, traffic jams, transport snarl, transportation threatened, tree foliage increase (UK), tree growth slowed, tree growth faster, trees grow too fast, trees in trouble, trees less colourful, trees more colourful, trees lush, trees on Antarctica, treelines change, tropics expansion, tropopause raised, truffle shortage, truffles down, truffles increase, turtles crash, turtle feminised, turtles lay earlier, UFO sightings, UK coastal impact, UK Katrina, vampire bats, Venice flooded, volcanic eruptions, volcanoes awakened in Iceland, walnuts threatened, walrus pups orphaned, walrus stampede, walruses come ashore, wars over water, wars sparked, wars threaten billions, wasps, water bills double, water shortage to increase vegetarianism, wave of natural disasters, waves bigger, weather out of its mind, weather patterns awry, weather patterns last longer, Western aid cancelled out, West Nile fever, whale beachings, whales lose weight, whales move north, whales wiped out, wheat rust in Syria, wheat yields crushed in Australia, wild boars thrive, wildfires, wind shift, wind reduced, winds stronger, winds weaker, wine – Australian baked, , wine industry damage (California), wine industry disaster (US), wine – more English, wine – no more French , wine – England too hot, wine -German boon, wine passé (Napa), wine – Scotland best, wine stronger, winters in Britain colder, winter in Britain dead, witchcraft executions, wolverine decline, wolverines vanish, wolves eat more moose, wolves eat less, women cheat on vacation, workers laid off, World at war, World War 4, Yellow fever, zebra mussel threat, zoonotic diseases.

and all on 0.006 deg C per year!
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February 15, 2013 8:25pm
publicwatchdog

Howdy Kiwibloggers!

http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/supreme-court-ignore-government-deadline-water-rights-decision-bd-135939

Interesting that the Supreme Court released their ‘Minute’ (effectively ignoring the Government’s deadline of 18 February 2013 – the day after the 13 February 2013 rallies/protests against asset sales in both Wellington and Auckland?

______________________________________________________________________________________________

Want a bit of light weekend reading?

(After you’ve helped collect some more signatures on the asset sale referendum? 🙂

“Treasury has released a substantial number of documents related to the mixed ownership process on the COMU website, including papers produced prior to the election. You can access these documents by following this link

http://www.comu.govt.nz/publications/information-releases/mixed-ownership-model/index.html ”

(Direct from Treasury! THROW AWAY YOUR ‘WOMEN’S WEEKLY’! 😉

Cheers!

Penny Bright

‘Anti-corruption campaigner’
Auckland Mayoral Candidate 2013
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February 15, 2013 8:44pm
Kea

This is a very interesting short video.

I was surprised to learn that a by-product of the process is Gibb, used in wall linings. There are also other useful by-products of burning Coal. It really is remarkable organic product.

How do you make electricity from coal – animated video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_CcrgKLyzc
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February 15, 2013 8:49pm
axeman

Kea, and while we are on The Kenyan only having FOUR MORE YEARS to save the planet 🙂 (by implementing a job-killing climate change agenda) it looks like Congress could indeed vote against it:
Luetkemeyer Seeks to Prohibit Federal Funding for Job-Killing UN Climate Change Initiatives

WASHINGTON, D.C. _ Following last night’s State of the Union Address in which the president pledged to implement a job-killing climate change agenda, U.S. Rep. Blaine Luetkemeyer (MO-3) today introduced legislation to prohibit the United States from contributing taxpayer dollars to the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC).

Luetkemeyer said the IPCC has received a great deal of criticism over the last several years, particularly when emails publicly released from a university in England showed that leading global scientists intentionally manipulated climate data and suppressed legitimate arguments in peer-reviewed journals. Researchers were asked to delete and destroy emails so that a small number of scientists could continue to advance their environmental agenda. Since that time, more than 700 acclaimed scientists have challenged claims made by IPCC. Luetkemeyer added that UNFCCC uses IPCC suggestions and data to implement its job-killing agenda.

“The American people should not have to foot the bill for an international organization that is fraught with waste, engaged in dubious science, and is promoting an agenda that will destroy jobs and drive up the cost of energy in the United States,” Luetkemeyer said. “Unfortunately, the president appears to be ready to fund these groups, revive harmful policies like cap and trade, and further empower out of control federal regulators at a time when we should be doing everything possible to cut wasteful spending, reduce regulatory red tape, and promote economic growth.”

Under the Obama administration, IPCC and UNFCCC have received an average of $10.25 million annually from U.S. taxpayers and the president’s FY13 budget included a $13 million request. Comparatively, the Bush administration was averaging roughly $5.7 million in annual contributions before reports of gross scientific misconduct. Since then, the Obama administration has nearly doubled U.S. contributions to IPCC and UNFCCC.

Luetkemeyer added that his bill would not only prohibit the aforementioned contributions as reported by federal agencies, but would also apply to in-kind contributions that often go unreported.

Luetkemeyer introduced legislation in the 111th and 112th Congresses to prohibit funding for the IPCC, but this year added UNFCCC to the legislation because the group uses IPCC’s suggestions and data to implement its job-killing agenda.
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February 15, 2013 9:01pm
Azeraph

I thought it was impossible to track and lock a incoming meteor and bring it down with a missile?
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February 15, 2013 9:01pm
Griff

Pigeon chess time

kea you are as full of shit as the kaka ponds.
have a look at my links above its documented proof that certain people and corporations in the energy industry are deliberately spreading the bullshit on the the denial blogs. We even have WUWT Joe Nova and others admitting they received funding from these sources. We also have authenticated documents that lay out the policy of misinformation that would be followed By oil industry agents
Fuckwits like you believe any thing Baaa baaa go the sheepies.
Especially fuckwits that make up shit yet can not prove what they keep saying.
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February 15, 2013 9:01pm
Kea

Alternative energy news

The complete list of faltering or bankrupt green-energy companies: (This is just in the USA people) 🙂

Evergreen Solar ($25 million)*
SpectraWatt ($500,000)*
Solyndra ($535 million)*
Beacon Power ($43 million)*
Nevada Geothermal ($98.5 million)
SunPower ($1.2 billion)
First Solar ($1.46 billion)
Babcock and Brown ($178 million)
EnerDel’s subsidiary Ener1 ($118.5 million)*
Amonix ($5.9 million)
Fisker Automotive ($529 million)
Abound Solar ($400 million)*
A123 Systems ($279 million)*
Willard and Kelsey Solar Group ($700,981)*
Johnson Controls ($299 million)
Brightsource ($1.6 billion)
ECOtality ($126.2 million)
Raser Technologies ($33 million)*
Energy Conversion Devices ($13.3 million)*
Mountain Plaza, Inc. ($2 million)*
Olsen’s Crop Service and Olsen’s Mills Acquisition Company ($10 million)*
Range Fuels ($80 million)*
Thompson River Power ($6.5 million)*
Stirling Energy Systems ($7 million)*
Azure Dynamics ($5.4 million)*
GreenVolts ($500,000)
Vestas ($50 million)
LG Chem’s subsidiary Compact Power ($151 million)
Nordic Windpower ($16 million)*
Navistar ($39 million)
Satcon ($3 million)*
Konarka Technologies Inc. ($20 million)*
Mascoma Corp. ($100 million)
*Denotes companies that have filed for bankruptcy.
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February 15, 2013 9:06pm
Azeraph

axeman (137) Says:
February 15th, 2013 at 9:01 pm

Sounds like what national is doing here. Kill jobs, set it up for asians and indians who will work for nothing then call it job creation using the excuse of old industries die while new emerge to fill the void. They just forgot to tell everyone that it takes a couple of years of extreme change and unemployment and law changes to bring it into effect.
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February 15, 2013 9:09pm
Kea

have a look at my links above its documented proof that certain people and corporations in the energy industry are deliberately spreading the bullshit on the the denial blogs. We even have WUWT Joe Nova and others admitting they received funding from these sources.

1. Who do the AGW supporters receive funding from ?

2. Could they get that funding if AGW was proven false ?

Oil companies make money from OIL. There is no money in denial of AGW. Oil company web sites confirm they support AGW theory. They do this to protect their public image. They spend many millions on public relations, to appear “green”.

Buying into the AGW hoax is a win-win situation for oil companies, because there is no shortage of demand for their product. People can not get enough of it. The biggest markets do not even give a shit, like China, about AGW.
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February 15, 2013 9:19pm
Kea

“The China Petroleum and Chemical Industry Federation estimated that apparent crude consumption will increase 5.3 percent year on year to 480 million tonnes in 2012, or 9.6 million barrels per day, compared with its forecast of a rise of around 3.5 percent in 2011.”

“Crude oil futures prices breached nine-month highs in early February as improved economic signals from China and the US, robust financial market activity and colder temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere buoyed market sentiment.”

“Oil prices started rising much sooner in 2012 than they did in 2011. The price for WTI crude oil broke above $100 a barrel on February 13, 2012, two weeks earlier than in 2011.Rising oil prices drove gas prices above $3.50 a gallon that same week. Gas prices had already breached $3.50 a gallon on the East and West coasts in January.”
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February 15, 2013 9:25pm
Griff

Shit for brains if we are going to stop the impact of global warming we need to reduce co2 emissions by burning less oil.
Oil company’s make money out of selling oil
They are valued on the reserves of oil they hold
If we reduce burning oil their reserves become worth less money
They will sell less oil so make less money.

If you can not understand theses simple concepts you are a window licker 😆
Sorry you are a window licker but this problem with comprehension you have just makes it more obvious
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February 15, 2013 9:26pm
Rodders

THROW AWAY YOUR ‘WOMEN’S WEEKLY’

And this coming from someone who throws away all her rates demands!
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February 15, 2013 9:27pm
Kea

Griff… back to my questions

1. Who do the AGW supporters receive funding from ?

2. Could they get that funding if AGW was proven false ?

3. How much is the AGW alarmist industry worth globally ? ( to the nearest few trillion dollars will do)

Bad news buddy. There is no shortage of demand for oil and that will not change any time soon. The only people who think like you are a few middle class Westerners. The other 99.9999% of the world want to burn heaps of oil and get rich. Suck it up hippy boy 🙂
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February 15, 2013 9:31pm
noskire

BlackCaps back to form. FFS…
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February 15, 2013 9:53pm
Griff

Squawk
Very noble of one with so few active brain cells to “Think” for the other 99.9999% 😆
Your statistic was pulled from : wwwfactsfromoutyourarse.com

Mostly concerned governments fund climate science seems that all major scientific bodies most governments the us 97% of publishing climate scientist after evaluating the scientific evidence have decided it is actually a problem.

You fail to get the significance of the oil industry feeding bullshit to idiots like you to delay the inevitable reduction in hydrocarbon usage. There is only so much co2 we can safely put into earths atmosphere the more we use now the less we will be able to use in the future.

Your cognitive bias allows you to discount any source of science and put your faith in propaganda laid out in front of you. by people paid to dissipate false information.
still trying to say its all a hoax by dishonest scientists
all 30,000 of them
…..EH……
science does not work in a vacuum its built staidly and carefully over many years. ideas are explored and discarded or superseded as more more research is completed.
The ultimate career boost for any scientist would be to disprove AGW You would get a noble and the pick of important positions. Any new finding capable of overturning the current consensuses would severely compromise the present understanding in some major branches of chemistry, biology, physics, paleontology …..

Window licker 😆
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February 15, 2013 10:55pm
Kea

Griff, there you go again: “by people paid to dissipate false information.” Paid by whom Griff ?. Tell us about it…

I will repeat the awkward questions.

1. Who do the AGW supporters receive funding from ?

2. Could they get that funding if AGW was proven false ?

3. How much is the AGW alarmist industry worth globally ? ( to the nearest few trillion dollars will do)
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February 15, 2013 11:23pm
Kea

Sorry Global Warming Alarmists, The Earth Is Cooling

Climate change itself is already in the process of definitively rebutting climate alarmists who think human use of fossil fuels is causing ultimately catastrophic global warming. That is because natural climate cycles have already turned from warming to cooling, global temperatures have already been declining for more than 10 years, and global temperatures will continue to decline for another two decades or more.

The conference featured serious natural science, contrary to the self-interested political science you hear from government financed global warming alarmists seeking to justify widely expanded regulatory and taxation powers for government bodies, or government body wannabees, such as the United Nations. See for yourself, as the conference speeches are online.

What you will see are calm, dispassionate presentations by serious, pedigreed scientists discussing and explaining reams of data. In sharp contrast to these climate realists, the climate alarmists have long admitted that they cannot defend their theory that humans are causing catastrophic global warming in public debate. With the conference presentations online, let’s see if the alarmists really do have any response.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/05/31/sorry-global-warming-alarmists-the-earth-is-cooling/
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February 15, 2013 11:35pm
axeman

Aww c’mon Kea. Give it a break. The gwiffknuckle is about to blow a fufu valve! He is already on 50 demerit points 🙁
Shades of the other idiot troll that used to post here, Phil manURE …. eh?

As you probably realise GRIEF’s level of argument is the one presented by the other CAGW cultists. The headcount fallacy and appeal to authority. They still haven’t worked out that, as Einstein said, it only takes one to prove them wrong.

BTW The Global Warming Cult and the Death of Science

“………”If you believe that freedom is at the core of what it means to be human, then the ALARMISTS and what they stand for are instinctively repulsive to you. On the other hand, if you believe that human society must be organized into a moral collective for the betterment of all, then the ALARMIST idea provides a wake up call compelling us to form into ranks and goose step in recycled rubber boots into the [green] future. ”

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February 15, 2013 11:41pm
Kea

axeman, I worry about Griff. He has two lovely kids, Moonbeam & Aquarius. A gorgeous vegan wife, Karma, whom he should be sitting up on deck with sharing a joint. Yet he frets constantly about the world ending.

Notice the increasing levels of abuse in his posts?

At first I thought he had just brought some bad weed, but it has become a pattern now. He is really rather nasty and aggressive, though as a frail, pallid, apprehensive vegan he probably presents minimal physical threat to others.
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February 15, 2013 11:49pm
axeman

Yep he is displaying the abusive keyboard warrior syndrome, a trait not usely seen in wacky backy indolents.

Maybe he could front up IN PERSON to Chris Monckton when he is down here to remind Australians and NZers that there is NO GLOBAL WARMING.

And introduce himself into a debate with:
“My name is Griff, a stoner from up north and I read skepticalscience.com, like, all the time. And I think you are full of shit”
That should do it 🙂
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February 16, 2013 12:12am
Kea

axeman, I googled “The Global Warming Cult and the Death of Science”

A very good article. It speaks to the human factors around the formation of the cult and the true motivations behind it. Griff seems unable to comprehend these things. I think he may have Asperger’s syndrome.
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February 16, 2013 12:16am
Griff

Buddy friends how cute.
Two window lickers holding hands over the net.

Chris Monckton
http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2013/s3688054.htm
The Rise Up Australia Party is the brainchild of Christian preacher Daniel Nalliah.
He’s anti-Islamic, claims to have raised people from the dead and once blamed the Black Saturday bushfires on Victoria’s abortion laws.

Today he launched his new party with help from renowned climate change sceptic Lord Monckton.

http://www.parliament.uk/business/news/2011/july/letter-to-viscount-monckton/
I must therefore again ask that you desist from claiming to be a Member of the House of Lords, either directly or by implication, and also that you desist from claiming to be a Member “without the right to sit or vote”.

I am publishing this letter on the parliamentary website so that anybody who wishes to check whether you are a Member of the House of Lords can view this official confirmation that you are not..

Some hero does he lick windows as well?
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February 16, 2013 1:00am
Left Right and Centre

from a griff riff:

Fuckwits like you believe any thing Baaa baaa go the sheepies.

Especially fuckwits that make up shit yet can not prove what they keep saying.

dick
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