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Redbaiter

You just make sure you look after us slaves Milky, like any good slave owner should.

Just imagine what would happen if we all went away and you had to do the work yourself.
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January 10, 2013 2:21pm
Griff

solid patriarchal society with solid family foundations

Where do those who are not interested in a solid patriarchal society with solid family foundations fit within your grand plan
do they get Red or a Black triangles ?
Would I get both with oak leaves and five stars? 😆
Many of us will not partake in your grand plan
Is that when you start loading the wagons
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January 10, 2013 2:24pm
axeman

GRIEF proclaims that “2012 was a historic year for extreme weather that included drought, wildfires, hurricanes and storms; according to an analysis released today by NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center. The average temperature for 2012 was 55.3°F, 3.2°F above the 20th century average, and 1.0°F above 1998, the previous warmest year.

However NOAA has inflated the 2012 record maximum number by adding new stations which didn’t exist during the hot years of the 1930s. That is a completely illegitimate approach, suitable only for government workers.

An apples to apples comparison uses only the same stations. When that is done, 2012 doesn’t even crack the ten hottest years.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/734851_394075694016466_1038821223_n.jpg
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January 10, 2013 2:27pm
Redbaiter

Griff- think what you like. I’m not interested in your opinion on anything and I’m not interested in challenging it or changing it.

You’re a completely irrational ignorant uneducated ignorant of history fuckwit, a typical product of socialism, and there is nothing anyone can do to change that sad fact, but one thing we should know is not to waste our time trying to.
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January 10, 2013 2:28pm
mikenmild

As Reddy is also an ‘irrational ignorant uneducated ignorant of history fuckwit;, does that make his comments ironic, or just ‘a typical product of socialism’?
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January 10, 2013 2:34pm
thedavincimode

Kea, Milky is a troll, with a brain so narrow it is only 10 cm wide and held firmly in place in his skull by means of being between two short planks of wood wrapped in rubber bands.

Oh fuck off you petty obsessive troll, you have nothing but completely free of substance childish insults in every comment.

Discuss.
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January 10, 2013 2:38pm
Griff

axenuckle
Unlinked graph just do not cut it
It could be from any where
Come on axey Link your source
I love reading nutter blogs
Must have read every one in the last couple of years
Still haven’t seen one anyone with 0.25 of a brain would use for researching actual science
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January 10, 2013 2:39pm
Manolo

davinci, what about your current laconism? A New Year resolution, maybe?
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January 10, 2013 2:40pm
thedavincimode

oops, errata:

You’re a completely irrational ignorant uneducated ignorant of history fuckwit, a typical product of socialism, and there is nothing anyone can do to change that sad fact, but one thing we should know is not to waste our time trying to.

… Obama married a gorilla ..

Now, discuss.
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January 10, 2013 2:41pm
thedavincimode

There was no resolution because there is no tomorrow Manolo.
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January 10, 2013 2:43pm
Griff

Actually MM I thought i done a good job of dropping a godwin
quite witty my reference to triangles
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January 10, 2013 2:43pm
mikenmild

DVM
If Reddy believes President Obama was born in Kenya, he may well believe anything. Hopefully the loving correction that he can receive at Kiwiblog will help him towards rationality.
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January 10, 2013 2:46pm
krazykiwi

axeman – a word of advice. If you do choose to keep playing with the THC afflicted, don’t bother linking to anything. In his sad, confused little world anything produced by a scientist become immediately ‘nutball juck denalists pig shit’ the instant it’s published on a site he doesn’t approve of – eg the worlds most viewed climate site. Conversly, the opinions of activists, NGOs and proven liars become worship-worthy science the second they’re published somewhere he does approve of.
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January 10, 2013 2:49pm
RightNow

Hey griff, how many years have had an average temp more than 0.1 deg C hotter than 1998?

Easy question. I suggest Hadcrut3 or 4 are most likely to return a non-zero result, but then again…
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January 10, 2013 2:50pm
Redbaiter

thedavaselinemode-

The comment had substance, as it pointed out the fact that like yourself, more of Milkie’s contributions were petulant unamusing petty little insults rather than comments that provide any substance to any debate.

Again, like you, he doesn’t know anything so he is at a loss in any discussion ranging outside typical socialist topics.

If narcissism wasn’t your driving emotion, you’d have much better comprehension abilities. See if a shrink can fix that.
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January 10, 2013 2:53pm
Redbaiter

BTW, re the narrowness of Milkie’s brain.

I should have written 10 millimetre not 10 cm.

A deliberate mistake none of you obsessive readers of my comments appear to have picked up.

Fail.
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January 10, 2013 2:57pm
Azeraph

Do you think Obama will employ the Order over gun violence? If so, What do you think a good chunk of America’s reaction will be?
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January 10, 2013 2:59pm
Griff

KK with no link to anything except a graph it is valueless
I want the website its a new spin on an old argument always amusing when they do that

Refering to WUWT hows the paper going from that amazing scientist A Watt has he represented it with the time of bais added
When he does he will prove that station placement does not change the warming trend 😆 all that work only to prove global warming

At a guess axenuckle is linking to a source doing the same thing

Using the unadjusted figures without the time of bais so the data is not a consistent measurement
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January 10, 2013 3:03pm
Redbaiter

“Do you think Obama will employ the Order over gun violence? If so, What do you think a good chunk of America’s reaction will be?”

I don’t know.

Talk is cheap, and although there is much of it about concerning succession or a new civil war I’m not convinced.

I think Obama may just be impeached.

That said I think he wants an uprising.

He has stacked the army with generals who think like him, and is prepared to kill 25 million Americans to do as his mentor Ayers suggested should be done to impose socialism/ communism in the US and delete the Constitution and the Republic from the country’s history.
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January 10, 2013 3:05pm
RRM

You spineless unprincipled weasel. Your painful drivel stands testament to what vile and deceitful strategies the Libertarians would resort to if they were ever in a position where the only restraint was their own morals. Exactly the kind of lowlife we both know you really are … cowardly shallow deceitful turd burgling scum.
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January 10, 2013 3:07pm
Redbaiter

Yes RRM, another of the davaselinemode’s party of cowards and low intellect losers who have no compunction in placing text here that they know was not written by myself, (but implying to those who may not know its source that it was.)

Deceit and cowardice is how you operate RRM, and one only has to wait around for a short time, and as always, you will provide an example of what a hate filled lying and deceitful little yellow bellied dirtbag you really are.

One of the few times I have responded to your worthless crap, and only needed to do so to counter your smear that I had written the above.

Have a good day scumbag.
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January 10, 2013 3:13pm
RRM

I merely pasted up some text Weddy.

It amuses me that you self-identified with it so quickly 🙂
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January 10, 2013 3:16pm
Redbaiter

Oh, I was going to remind you that your habitual horrible smiley face symbol was missing but I see its back now.

Hypocrisy never troubled you one iota did it?
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January 10, 2013 3:18pm
Griff

Obama… kill 25 million Americans…. deletes… Constitution and the Republic.

Weddy 2 points for the outstanding conservonuutter conspirawhacky of the week. Have you ever thought of starting your own blog?

ops, you have one and it almost not quite had 50 views one month.

Tells as more name the others in the grand plot.

Ill take a biiiiiiig toke and chuckle for the next hour.

Nothing like a conspiawhacky for a good laugh 😆
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January 10, 2013 3:20pm
RightNow

grief, still waiting. How many years can you find that are more than 0.1 deg C hotter than 1998?
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January 10, 2013 3:21pm
thedavincimode

the comment had substance

the ball was in

Discuss.
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January 10, 2013 3:21pm
mikenmild

It might be time to stop picking on Reddy now. Although it is good sport, I am starting to feel a bit sorry for him. I’ll keep chuckling to my self over him accusing me of being narrow-minded though.
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January 10, 2013 3:24pm
mikenmild

DVM
“‘You cannot be serious”?
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January 10, 2013 3:25pm
thedavincimode

So, given that Singapore is the model society that doesn’t tolerate anti-social behaviour, what would happen if a narcissistic over-inflated bag of wind parked his car on a bridge and held up traffic for miles just to make himself feel important?
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January 10, 2013 3:26pm
RRM

Fake Redbaiter:

Exactly the kind of lowlife we both know you really are … cowardly shallow deceitful turd burgling scum.

Real Redbaiter:

as always, you will provide an example of what a hate filled lying and deceitful little yellow bellied dirtbag you really are.

Oh, and 🙂
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January 10, 2013 3:27pm
thedavincimode

Very well done milky.

But your sorrow for him is merely your pinko inner self. It’s just political so you don’t need to worry.
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January 10, 2013 3:28pm
Redbaiter

“It might be time to stop picking on Reddy now.”

Well, you could always try argument, but I guess seeing that requires knowledge and information and intelligence, we won’t be seeing that change take place.

I mean listening to Radio NZ all day is going to leave you about as well informed as your average Russki reading Pravda back in the fifties isn’t it?
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January 10, 2013 3:31pm
thedavincimode

turd burglar

Is that what the other boys called you at school reddie? Is that why they wouldn’t play with you? (No I don’t mean that)
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January 10, 2013 3:32pm
bhudson

what would happen if a narcissistic over-inflated bag of wind parked his car on a bridge and held up traffic for miles just to make himself feel important?

The Singaporean version of the prison holiday camp in Midnight Express, I would imagine. Perhaps Sarah would be the one to visit?
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January 10, 2013 3:33pm
Redbaiter

thedavaslelinemode, another slinking coward, uses his National party based relationship with the blog owner to post messages that would get other commenters instant demerits.
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January 10, 2013 3:35pm
thedavincimode

hudson

Sarah never replied to any of his letters so no.
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January 10, 2013 3:36pm
RRM

And just for comparison, here’s one by some other “Redbaiter”, one who racked up 13,197 posts. Obviously no relation, as setting up multiple user accounts would be deceitful and duplicitous…

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/capitalisms_bad_pr.html#comment-393811
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January 10, 2013 3:38pm
bhudson

tdvm,

Perhaps the inflatable version then?
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January 10, 2013 3:39pm
Griff

Are we playing wheres wally RN

record Temperature 1998 very warmer than the preceding 250 odd years
http://berkeleyearth.org/results-summary/
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v3/

Big jump up to the 1997-1998 high temperature last century
We have increased that temperature since
you could say from 1995 the temperature has risen .4 of degrees
or as you try to misrepresent .1 from 1998
The peaks are interesting as aussie found out can cause catastrophic effects
The trend is global warming
http://cdiac.ornl.gov/trends/temp/hansen/graphics/gl_land.gif
The peaks are weather
oh and nutjobs peaks may be weather but they are obviously the result of the warming trend
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January 10, 2013 3:40pm
Azeraph

A friend said to me he’s “Baiting” the conservatives with the order but she say’s it feels like they have an adolescent for a President.
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January 10, 2013 3:40pm
Redbaiter

Sorry fans, have to leave now.

It is so sad to leave such a den of erudition and wit.

Feel free to carry on without me.
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January 10, 2013 3:41pm
Redbaiter

Az, check out the Drudge Report.

http://www.drudgereport.com/
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January 10, 2013 3:44pm
Griff

And for the cartoon for those that are terminally confused over the whole thing
http://www.skepticalscience.com/pics/NCDC_Escalator.gif
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January 10, 2013 3:56pm
RightNow

Oblique grief, the question was simple, you shouldn’t have had any problems finding the answer.

Suddenly 0.1 deg C isn’t looking so insignificant to you now?

You see this is why you’re a hypocrite:

When it’s wamer by < 0.1 deg C you say "we demolished that record"

When it's cooler by 0.1 deg C you say "so what"
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January 10, 2013 3:58pm
RightNow

YIPPEE!!! My favourite gif from the SS.

So, what’s the long term trend in the escalator gif grief?

Is it:
a) >2 deg C per century
b) <2 deg C per century

Easy question again. Obvious answer too. It's clearly below 2 deg C per century. And this is your big smoking gun 🙂
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January 10, 2013 4:00pm
Griff

See above graph RN you may not Get it but most sane people would.

Does the record stand now RN ? no its gone no more record smashed twice

Will a new record happen soon
met service UK says 50% chance any given year in the future will be a global temperature record

Pointing out all time record temperatures for countries and the globe is reminding people that global warming is happening
pointing out cold snaps and cool years is talking about the weather 😆

http://www.skepticalscience.com/16_more_years_of_global_warming.html
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2006/05/el-nino-global-warming/
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January 10, 2013 4:20pm
Kea

met service UK says 50% chance any given year in the future will be a global temperature record

So there is a 50% chance it will not be a temperature record.
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January 10, 2013 4:24pm
RightNow

Sure there’s been warming grief. Just like there was warming in the first half of the 20th century, in fact the slopes are identical – i.e. the same rate of warming.

Where’s the anthropological fingerprint though? The warming has flatlined, emissions haven’t.
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January 10, 2013 4:30pm
Kea

So who started all this AGW business and who paid for it:

Mrs Thatcher could not have promoted the global warming issue without the support of her UK political party. And they were willing to give it. Following the General Election of 1979, most of the incoming Cabinet had been members of the government which lost office in 1974. They blamed the National Union of Mineworkers (NUM) for their 1974 defeat. They, therefore, desired an excuse for reducing the UK coal industry and, thus, the NUM’s power. Coal-fired power stations emit CO2 but nuclear power stations don’t. Global warming provided an excuse for reducing the UK’s dependence on coal by replacing it with nuclear power. …

So, early in her global warming campaign – and at her personal instigation – the UK’s Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research was established, and the science and engineering research councils were encouraged to place priority in funding climate-related research. This cost nothing because the UK’s total research budget was not increased; indeed, it fell because of cuts elsewhere. But the Hadley Centre sustained its importance and is now the operating agency for the IPCC’s scientific working group (Working Group 1). Most scientists’ work depends on funds fully or partly provided by governments. Also, all scientists compete to obtain their share of this limited resource. Available research funds were shrinking, and global warming had become the ‘scientific’ issue of most interest to governments. Hence, any case for funding support tended to include reference to global warming whenever possible.

http://www.john-daly.com/history.htm

The history and funding is not disputed btw.
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January 10, 2013 4:31pm
Griff

Most of which has happened since 1975 speeding up as predicted

oh look squawky is doing statistics clap clap

of course the first point in a series is always a record

with progressively less chance of a record the more the data points
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January 10, 2013 4:34pm
Kea

The cat is out of the bag:

“And so she said to the scientists – she went to the Royal Society and she said: “there’s money on the table for you to prove this stuff”. So of course they went away and did that.”

http://www.ofcomswindlecomplaint.net/fullcomplaint/p65.htm#C71

This is one of Griffs “scientists”
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January 10, 2013 4:34pm
Kea

” [Nigel Lawson]
She was very concerned, always – I remember when I was Secretary of State for Energy – to promote nuclear power, long before the issue of climate change came up, because she was concerned about energy security; and she didn’t trust the Middle East, and she didn’t trust the National Union of Mineworkers: so she didn’t trust oil, and she didn’t trust coal. Therefore she felt we really had to push ahead with nuclear power. And then when the climate change/global warming thing came up, she felt: “well this is great: this is another argument – because it doesn’t have any carbon dioxide emissions – this is another argument why you should go for nuclear. And that is what she was really, largely, saying. It’s been misrepresented since then.

“
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January 10, 2013 4:35pm
thedavincimode

hudson

That is the reason he purchased the inflatable version, but if you are seriously suggesting that an inflatable Sarah could rescue him then that’s just being silly. Even the fully optioned auto-drain multi-rider model couldn’t pull that off.
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January 10, 2013 4:36pm
RightNow

“Most of which has happened since 1975 speeding up as predicted”

Speeding up? Lay off the weed boy, you’re hallucinating!
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January 10, 2013 4:40pm
bhudson

but if you are seriously suggesting that an inflatable Sarah could rescue him then that’s just being silly.

No, but in Midnight Express his visitor (girlfriend) did feel very sorry for him…
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January 10, 2013 4:41pm
bhudson

Even the fully optioned auto-drain multi-rider model couldn’t pull that off.

tdvm,

Hidden file?
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January 10, 2013 4:42pm
Griff

cospirowhaky alert Maggie did it
contradiction alert rwnj use Maggie as the originator of the great global warming conspiwhaky
Squawky has previously stated its a commie plot by the vast left wing campaign to inflict agenda 21 on the world
Extreme risk of nutter brain cognitive dissonance explosion
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January 10, 2013 4:44pm
Kea

The truth behind this story is much more interesting than is generally realised, not least because it has a fascinating twist. Certainly, Mrs Thatcher was the first world leader to voice alarm over global warming, back in 1988, With her scientific background, she had fallen under the spell of Sir Crispin Tickell, then our man at the UN. In the 1970s, he had written a book warning that the world was cooling, but he had since become an ardent convert to the belief that it was warming,

But she embraced truth:

In other words, long before it became fashionable, Lady Thatcher was converted to the view of those who, on both scientific and political grounds, are profoundly sceptical of the climate change ideology. Alas, what she set in train earlier continues to exercise its baleful influence to this day. But the fact that she became one of the first and most prominent of “climate sceptics” has been almost entirely buried from view.
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January 10, 2013 4:48pm
Kea

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/7823477/Was-Margaret-Thatcher-the-first-climate-sceptic.html
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January 10, 2013 4:49pm
cha

In her own words.

http://www.margaretthatcher.org/document/108237

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSrBO4_qPzo
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January 10, 2013 4:56pm
thedavincimode

hudson

Completely impractical given its susceptibility to puncturing as evidenced by the mood swings from just unpleasant and nasty to pathologically embittered bigotted and rascist redneck.
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January 10, 2013 5:08pm
Griff

scientific and political grounds, are profoundly sceptical of the climate change ideology.

1 papers that dont dispute the current scientific consensus on agw 13926+
papers that depute the current consensus 24

http://scienceprogress.org/2012/11/27479/
http://agwobserver.wordpress.com/index/

There is No statistically significant debate among the scientists.

2 Again the presentation of the scientific consensus around global warming as a ideological issue
the attempts to minimize the effects may be politics

The science NUTTERS is not 😆
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January 10, 2013 5:14pm
Kea

Griff, just slow down a bit and look at what I and others have presented to you.

You seem intelligent enough to understand. You are fixated on the “science” but discount the other (human) factors influencing that science. It is like you have Autisim or something.

I respect the scientific method greatly. But there are many examples of scientists getting caught up in the moment and being very wrong in their conclusions. I know that you know that, so wake up and have a fresh look.
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January 10, 2013 5:29pm
hinamanu

News: Gun makers prepare to counter gun bans with refusal to do business with the military, law enforcement or any government entity. If their civilian products are banned then no sales to the government either.
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January 10, 2013 5:53pm
hinamanu

1865 baseball card found in Maine to be auctioned

It’s not the same as a modern baseball card

http://www.krqe.com/dpps/news/strange/1865-baseball-card-found-in-maine-to-be-auctioned-nd13-jgr_5304732
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January 10, 2013 5:58pm
Kea

News: Gun makers prepare to counter gun bans with refusal to do business with the military, law enforcement or any government entity. If their civilian products are banned then no sales to the government either.

Ha ha ha……

What the authority worshiping anti gun crowd do not understand is that private citizens developed most of the military arms. The government does not own them. We allow the government to use our inventions.
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January 10, 2013 6:02pm
Griff

Look At what? your conspiowhacky 😆 Unsupported conspiracy thinking may be normal to you to me that says nutter in flashing capitals.
Scientist caught up in the moment :lol; over the last forty years of research and data collection by ten of thousands all sucked in by a lie 😆 odds are way to high to get any conspiwqhacky or false scientific premise past the reality filter

The science says global warming 13926 papers to 24
The physical world around us says global warming

Nutter blogs funded by the carbon industry blatantly attempting to distort the scientific reality around climate change
Very often the same people involved in the tobacco industry’s attempt to do the same over the danger of cigarette smoke
all easily verified and documented
As I have read most of them I am more aware of there arguments than you are. Most are the same old recycled blatant crap that’s been echoing around for years. By the way you dont need desmog blog or similar to find this out a smart person would work it out for themselves

Nutters stick their heads in the sand and go nah nah nah its not happening
or squawk squawk as the case may be
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January 10, 2013 6:03pm
krazykiwi

kea – Lost cause. You can’t debate with someone who can’t debate, moreso when the CAGW industry lies just spew out in an incoherent THC-inspired jumble comment after comment. His inability to acknowledge there’s enough controversy to warrant a look a basic human motivations, eg confirmation bias, simply leaves no room for reeasonable discourse.
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January 10, 2013 6:11pm
Kea

Nutter blogs funded by the carbon industry

1. Explain what the carbon industry is ?

2. Who funds the AGW scientists ?

You are too much of a coward to answer that and I have asked you many times. I suspect you know your lying.

Their is no such thing as the “carbon industry”. Coal miners and oil drillers make money from coal and oil. There is no money in denial of AGW.

The AGW crowds ONLY source of income is fear of climate change. They have nothing else. A few years ago no one would have even heard of “climate scientists” but now they siphon billions from the workers of the world through taxes.
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January 10, 2013 6:17pm
Kea

krazykiwi, yeah you are right. He seems to be getting worse too.
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January 10, 2013 6:19pm
Kea

Nutter blogs funded by the carbon industry blatantly attempting to distort the scientific reality around climate change
Very often the same people involved in the tobacco industry’s attempt to do the same over the danger of cigarette smoke

So the (imaginary) carbon industry is conspiring with tobacco growers to destroy the earth 🙂

This shows how drugs really can help creativity. Though it clearly comes at a price.
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January 10, 2013 6:23pm
nasska

This seems topical.

Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/nca81qumnylp90o/2012-12-19_2200.png
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January 10, 2013 6:28pm
Manolo

Russia’s advice to the US: http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/28-12-2012/123335-americans_guns-0/
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January 10, 2013 6:34pm
Kea

nasska & manolo, great links 🙂
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January 10, 2013 6:39pm
Griff

what do you think science is KK
If multiple strands of research reach the same conclusion scientist are inclined to trust this conclusion is sound
13926 papers to 24 you are quite welcome to dispute any paper you disagree with
The very few attempts to disprove global warming do not stand up to peer review you can look at comment etc for most papers online if you are interested . One of my prior links had good commentary on the few published anti AGW papers.

squawk squawk pulls fact from:wwwfactspulledoutofmyarsefornutterscom. billions and billions of conspiwhacky dollars 😉
What did RN post the other day $330.000 for two years work for two or three people About the same as any similar research say into the link between conspiracy thinking and mental disorder.
Of course some idiots dont want us to research climate change its a little too scary for their poor brains to cope with.
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January 10, 2013 6:41pm
cha

Yup, as we speak the Obama death squads are fanning out……
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January 10, 2013 6:46pm
Kea

Hay Griff you cowardly little prick……… still waiting for answers.

Oh and do not forget the details of the “climate experiment” you told us about yesterday. I will expect all the usual links to scientific papers that you provide when lying about AGW.

I used to give you the benefit of the doubt and think you were wrong, but sincere. Now I see you are both wrong and insincere. You are motivated by the same thing as the left, hatred of your fellow man due to your personal self esteem issues.
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January 10, 2013 6:50pm
Griff

Why kea thanks for the analysis
Ive had worse 😆
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January 10, 2013 6:59pm
Kea

My pleasure Griff. Keep being a wanker and I will do worse ! 😉
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January 10, 2013 7:09pm
Griff

Problem: to much carbon as co2 added to atmosphere causing temperature to rise

Answer: reduce carbon added to atmosphere Stop burning fossil fuels (coal gas oil for squawk)that add the co2

conflict: How do we support our standard of living ..cost of change from carbon oil gas goal economy to sustainable or nuclear
conflict: how do oil gas and goal companies continue to make money if we stop using their product (money 😆 kea co2 is a by product of how they make their money)
conflict : how does the developing world develop if they are denied the boost we received from burning hydrocarbons and making co2

Answer nukes ? 😆 maybe that’s Obama next move after killing all the political dissenters He will nuke the red states to glass.
I wounder if reds all right hes has to be inline for assignation hes so important in the conservative movement is this country.
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January 10, 2013 7:14pm
Kea

Griff, now we are getting somewhere. The architect of AGW had a problem with the dam commie coal miners back in the old country. She decided to sell Nuclear Energy to the hippie generation and pulled it off. Clever bitch.

Yep fossil fuels add co2, but the contribution is tiny. Rotting vegetable matter contributes more, as do many other natural emitters. (Actually “carbon” in that context means organic and fossil fuels are just organic matter.)

Keep up the science study and cut back on the hooch, you will get there.
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January 10, 2013 7:22pm
RightNow

“What did RN post the other day $330.000 for two years work for two or three people”

RN posted no such thing. RN pointed out that the totally inept Gergis received another grant of more than $300k even after completely fucking up the last paper she worked on – which was totally ripped apart by skeptics resulting in the journal rejecting the paper outright.

And the hypocrite grief thought Anthony Watts getting funding of $88k, mostly to pay a developer, is evidence that skeptics are funded by big oil!

Now grief, all the ‘peer-reviewed’ papers in the world don’t change the fact that the warming has stopped do they? Although a lot of them go through great feats of contortion to try and explain why, while still trying to claim CO2 is the overwhelming forcing in climate change.

But when the rate of warming approaches zero, completely falsifying models projecting accelerated warming, your suspension of disbelief is truly something awe inspiring. Or you’re just a moronic sheep.
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January 10, 2013 7:33pm
RightNow

baa
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January 10, 2013 7:35pm
chiz

Some people have readable signatures. Some people have unreadable signatures. Then there’s Jack Lew, possibly in the running for US treasury secretary. His signature just consists of loops. There don’t appear to be letters at all in it!
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January 10, 2013 7:35pm
Steve (North Shore)

I have a question.
This Carbon that is being released by burning fossil fuels; where did the Carbon come from?
Was it already in the atmosphere and got absorbed, and now we get Oil that we use as fuel that goes into the atmosphere where it came from?
I think someone needs to explain the porkies being told
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January 10, 2013 7:37pm
Griff

Loved the cognitive dissonance rush you had at 6:50 squawky
you know that having conflicting reality with the world around you causes hair to grow on your palms 😆

Read this is helps with the old cog dis and doesn’t cost like a shrink 😆

http://www.philosophersbeard.org/2010/08/conspiracy-thinking-part-ii.html
Diagnosing and Refuting Conspiracy Thinking
The difficulty of conspiracy thinking is its pathological character; the problem of conspiracy thinking is the enormous danger of false positives. One way to identify and challenge conspiracy thinking is to evaluate its internal coherence: ‘Do these claims even make sense in their own terms?’

I previously discussed the importance of an authoritative common sense about the way-the-world-works in protecting societies from conspiracy thinking. One might call this the ‘external coherence’ test: are such theories consistent with what you know of how the world works? Think of Barney Frank’s response to the loonies: ‘On what planet do you spend most of your time?’.
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January 10, 2013 7:46pm
Viking2

Now noone had better tell reddy about this. NZ no 1 in the freedom stakes, Singapore 39.

surely not. Can’t be Reddy syays its a much better place.

The index is a chapter in Towards a Worldwide Index of Human Freedom (.pdf) (published by Fraser and Liberales) which has the following table. It shows the rankings, the numbers are the ratings for personal freedom, economic freedom and the freedom index:

1 New Zealand 9.2 8.22 8.73
2 Netherlands 9.5 7.45 8.47
3 Hong Kong 7.8 9.02 8.39
4 Australia 8.8 7.83 8.33
5 Canada 8.7 7.92 8.33
6 Ireland 9.0 7.68 8.33
7 United States of America 8.7 7.93 8.30
8 Denmark 8.9 7.71 8.30
9 Japan 9.2 7.38 8.28
10 Estonia 8.9 7.65 8.28
11 Switzerland 8.6 7.96 8.26
12 Norway 9.2 7.34 8.26
13 Finland 8.8 7.54 8.16
14 Austria 8.7 7.59 8.13
15 Luxembourg 8.7 7.53 8.12
16 Chile 8.2 7.99 8.12
17 Iceland 9.0 7.16 8.10
18 United Kingdom 8.4 7.78 8.08
19 Slovakia 8.6 7.57 8.07
20 Costa Rica 8.8 7.35 8.05
21 El Salvador 8.5 7.58 8.04
22 Uruguay 9.4 6.67 8.03
23 Spain 8.8 7.19 8.00
24 Albania 8.6 7.38 7.98
25 Portugal 8.9 7.08 7.97
26 Bahamas 8.8 7.08 7.94
27 Malta 8.8 7.06 7.94
28 Panama 8.5 7.32 7.92
29 Sweden 8.6 7.26 7.91
30 Mauritius 8.1 7.61 7.88
31 Hungary 8.4 7.39 7.87
32 Belgium 8.5 7.14 7.83
33 France 8.4 7.20 7.78
34 Czech Republic 8.7 6.88 7.78
35 Germany 8.0 7.47 7.75
36 Guatemala 8.3 7.15 7.73
37 Poland 8.6 6.88 7.73
38 Peru 8.0 7.36 7.68
39 Singapore 6.6 8.75 7.67
40 Italy 8.5 6.75 7.62
41 Lithuania 8.2 7.03 7.61
42 Bulgaria 8.0 7.18 7.60

43 Slovenia 8.5 6.61 7.56
44 Korea, Republic of 7.7 7.33 7.53
45 Cyprus 7.6 7.50 7.53

more:http://homepaddock.wordpress.com/2013/01/10/were-free/
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January 10, 2013 7:47pm
cha

# Steve.

http://www.geos.ed.ac.uk/sccs/public/where.html
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January 10, 2013 7:48pm
Kea

Steve. Good question. It is also another question Griff refuses to answer, but he will hurl abuse at you for asking.

All the co2 in fossil fuels came from the atmosphere. This is because fossil fuels are organic matter.( Same as GE free Organic mung bean sprouts.) Plants absorb co2 and must do so in order to live.

All known life is carbon based. When any form of live breaks down, it releases the carbon back to where it came from, the atmosphere.
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January 10, 2013 7:51pm
Kea

cha, the little picture is bullshit (your link).

Most co2 goes back into the atmosphere through decomposition, not fossil fuel. That picture shows all terrestrial co2 turns to fossils and only re-enters the cycle when processed by man. That is a blatant lie.
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January 10, 2013 7:57pm
nasska

A priest was vested in his surplice and cassock ready to
proceed at the beginning of a procession. His surplice
was very ornate, and he was swinging the incense pot,
which had smoke coming from it.

Lance, the flaming fruit from down the road,
touched him on the shoulder and said, “Darling, I love
your dress, but your purse is on fire!”
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January 10, 2013 8:00pm
Redbaiter

“cha, the little picture is bullshit (your link).”

Take my advice.

Never click on the socialist goon’s links.

I learned long ago that they’re worthless, and now I have no curiosity whatsoever as to what they might convey.

If the snivelling little commie is so incoherent and ill educated he can’t articulate his position himself, then fuck him anyway.
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January 10, 2013 8:05pm
Griff

Steve
All at once we are putting carbon that has been buried over tens of millions of years back into the atmosphere
To much co2 makes the atmosphere warm up
Squawks version of reality ignors that we are adding lots of co2 to the atmosphere that is not part of the normal carbon cycle
When the earths atmosphere had lots more carbon it was a lot warmer. If we keep adding this buried carbon it will be again.
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January 10, 2013 8:05pm
Kea

Red, I encourage you to check out cha’s link. It is really doing my head in how much these people are willing to distort the truth.

Check it out : http://www.geos.ed.ac.uk/sccs/public/where.html

Note how all life turns into fossils ! Wow, hard to be polite about that shit.
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January 10, 2013 8:09pm
mikenmild

I see Reddy’s back from the charm school to spread his inimitable rays of sunshine.
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January 10, 2013 8:09pm
cha

Yes!.
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January 10, 2013 8:10pm
thedavincimode

Question

Why do people who hide behind pseudonyms call other people who hide behind pseudonyms cowards?
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January 10, 2013 8:12pm
Left Right and Centre

Longknives at 10:30am

This is the Man.

You have been human trafficked citizen.

Just in case you are tempted to get above your station in life, The Man recommends that you repeat the following mantra for thirty seconds slowly and with emphasis every fifteen minutes during work hours. *I am human traffic*.
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January 10, 2013 8:13pm
Griff

squwk squwk
😆 its like watching a spinning top get the wobbles
cog dis…. cry to weddy …eh….
He will understand his own reality has wobbles as well 😆
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January 10, 2013 8:14pm
Redbaiter

Viking2-

You need to get an education, then you might now when you’re being jerked off by liberal propagandists.

The expression is “no one”.

There is no such word as noone.

(In that context. It is of course otherwise a proper noun)
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