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Fletch

West is asking for a recount. Not surprised.

Tea Party congressman Rep. Allen West demanded a recount today in his nail-bitingly close re-election race with Patrick Murphy. With 100 percent of precincts reporting, Murphy has a lead of less than 3,000 votes. West’s campaign issued a statement:

Late last night Congressman West maintained a districtwide lead of nearly 2,000 votes until the St. Lucie County Supervisor of Elections ‘recounted’ thousands of early ballots. Following that ‘recount’ Congressman West trailed by 2,400 votes …
The St. Lucie County Supervisor of Elections office clearly ignored proper rules and procedures, and the scene at the Supervisor’s office last night could only be described as complete chaos. Given the hostility and demonstrated incompetence of the St. Lucie County Supervisor of Elections, we believe it is critical that a full hand recount of the ballots take place in St. Lucie County. We will continue to fight to ensure every vote is counted properly and fairly, and accordingly we will pursue all legal means necessary.

To be honest, I think the whole election was rigged, Chicago-style.
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November 9, 2012 3:18pm
RightNow

Griff,

Journal of Climate editor Chiang wrote:

After consulting with the Chief Editor, I have decided to rescind acceptance of the paper- you’ll receive an official email from J Climate to this effect as soon as we figure out how it should be properly done. I believe the EOR has already been taken down.

Also, since it appears that you will have to redo the entire analysis (and which may result in different conclusions), I will also be requesting that you withdraw the paper from consideration. Again, you’ll hear officially from J CLimate in due course. I invite you to resubmit once the necessary analyses and changes to the manuscript have been made.

I’m happy to smear her based on what I know, a PhD is clearly no guarantee of competency so you can stick that one.

It’s a real crack up that it was Climate Audit that discovered what a shit job she did, but rubbing that in your face wasn’t my original purpose. It’s a nice bonus now that you’ve risen to her defence though.
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November 9, 2012 3:31pm
hinamanu

We Know The Secrets of The Federal Reserve
Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection

I have a DREAM Martin Luther King said…….. I have a DRONE Barack said

http://www.secretsofthefed.com/obama-bombs-yemen-hours-after-winning-reelection/
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November 9, 2012 3:32pm
eszett

To be honest, I think the whole election was rigged, Chicago-style.

Further evidence of how detached you are from reality, Fletch.
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November 9, 2012 3:52pm
hinamanu

Who Killed Rudy Giuliani?

The American Conservative: When Ron Paul leaves office in January, he will have been more successful than many of the legislators who spent decades maligning him. Paul’s ideas have gradually gone from marginal to mainstream, and his record shows how much even a single determined man of principle can do to change a movement. In foreign policy especially, the Texas congressman leaves behind a new generation of leaders, both libertarian and conservative, who challenge the disastrous bipartisan consensus.

A decade ago, only seven Republican members of Congress voted against the Iraq War—six congressmen and one senator. The number of conservative legislators who opposed the war was even smaller still, the redoubtable trio of Jimmy Duncan, John Hostettler, and Paul.

The other dissenters were moderate to liberal Republicans representing districts where George W. Bush and any policy he proposed—much less sending young Americans to die in a war of choice—would have been deeply unpopular. Lincoln Chafee, the only GOP senator to vote against the authorization of force, was the son of the last great Rockefeller Republican and easily his party’s most liberal member of Congress. Connie Morella of Montgomery County, Maryland represented the most Democratic congressional district held by a Republican.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/who-killed-r…
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November 9, 2012 4:08pm
Fletch

eszett, let’s look at the percentages, courtesy, White House Insider –

Barack Obama netted FEWER Democrat votes in 2012 than were cast in 2008 by 3% points.

Mitt Romney earned MORE Republican votes in 2012 than were cast in 2008 by 3% points.

Barack Obama earned FEWER Black votes in 2012 than he did in 2008.

Mitt Romney by the way, earned MORE Black votes in 2012 than were cast for the Republican in 2008.

Mitt Romney earned MORE votes from both married men and married woman than were cast for Republicans in 2008, while also improving support among non-married men and woman by 2% from 2008 as well.

Mitt Romney earned MORE votes among liberals, moderates, and conservatives than were cast for the Republican candidate in 2008 – in fact, this improvement was by a full 7% over 2008 – a very significant improvement.

Mitt Romney earned more votes from Protestants, Catholics, and Jews than the Republican nominee received in 2008, including a 9-point improvement among Jewish voters alone.
The two top issues according to voters were the economy and the budget.

Mitt Romney earned A 38 POINT ADVANTAGE OVER BARACK OBAMA on the top two issues of the election – and yet Romney was somehow defeated.

Lastly, regarding the following three personal trait issues – strong leader, shares my values, and has a vision for the future, Mitt Romney DOMINATED Barack Obama among 2012 voters by 45 points. And lost the election.

As he says, yet Romney lost? How is that possible?
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November 9, 2012 4:24pm
Fletch

See the table of exit votes, courtesy Washington Post –

Here is the link to the data via the Washington Post. It is stunning, some might even say inconceivable, that a candidate improves in such categories as overall votes among Whites AND minorities, is ranked far ahead of their opponent in both the top two concerns among voters, as well as the three most important personal trait issues – and still loses the election.
That is exactly what happened last night. Somehow, someway…that is what happened to Mitt Romney – and to all who supported him.
See link below – and the dramatic shift in Republicans’ favor in 2012 vs 2008. A shift the resulted in a confounding loss that remains dubious at best…

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/2012-exit-polls/
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November 9, 2012 4:30pm
Elaycee

The NZ Hoorald strikes again with an article titled: Futile search for work leads mum to look at Australia

So the Hoorald churnalist ‘interviews’ a woman and in return gets this horrible bleat about unemployment and the overall lack of work in NZ and as a result she will have to look for work in Australia.

Then toward the bottom of the article, it mentions:

She has applied for numerous jobs, dropped her CV into businesses near her old workplace in Rosebank Rd, and has asked everybody she knows to look for a job for her. She counts herself lucky to have lots of contacts. She is on the Labour Party’s Waitakere electorate committee and is on the national executive of the Engineering, Printing and Manufacturing Union.

What a coincidence…

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10846101
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November 9, 2012 5:37pm
Fletch

MASSIVE election fraud.

In Philadelphia locations where GOP inspectors were illegally removed, Obama won over 99% of the vote

Voter fraud. It’s the real electorate of the Democratic Party.

Across Philadelphia, GOP poll inspectors were forcibly (and illegally) removed from polling locations. Coincidentally (or not), Mr. Obama received “astronomical” numbers in those very same regions, including locations where he received “over 99%” of the vote.

Ward 4, which also had a poll watcher dressed in Obama attire, went massively for Obama. Mr. Obama received 99.5% of the vote, defeating Mr. Romney 9,955 to 55.

Another problem: “Voter turnout in Philadelphia was around 60 percent, according to state election figures.” In these precincts it was well over 90%

But nothing suspicious about beating the averages in an area where the inspectors just had to be removed.

Randall Miller, a history professor at St. Joseph’s University, said politicians almost never get 99 percent of the votes anywhere except, perhaps, the towns where they were born.

He said the Democratic voter turnout effort deserved credit for the president’s success.

“Ninety-nine percent is extraordinary, and it shows discipline as much as anything else,” he said.

http://frontpagemag.com/2012/dgreenfield/dems-won-astronomically-in-philly-locations-where-inspectors-were-removed/

99% ?
Really?

Come on. There’s MASSIVE fraud there.
No doubt in my mind that Obama STOLE this election.
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November 9, 2012 6:08pm
Fletch

Also voter fraud in Cleveland, with Obama winning 100% of the vote!!

In Cleveland, in some districts he did even better with an astounding 100% of the vote in dozens of locations. For example, in Cleveland’s Fifth Ward, Mr. Obama won districts E, F, and G 1,337 to Mitt Romney’s… 0. And in case you’re wondering, Gary Johnson received more votes than Mr. Romney.

Well, maybe that’s just a fluke. In the Ninth Ward, Mr. Obama won districts D-G with a paltry total of 1,740 to… 3. Hey, at least Romney got .2% of the vote!

Okay, what if we look at an entire Ward? No way this trend continues, right? An entire ward. Why not do the First Ward? Obama won that one 12,857 to… 94. This time Romney got .7% of the vote. He’s moving up in the world!

In total, there are 21 districts in Cleveland where Mr. Romney received precisely 0 votes. In 23 districts, he received precisely 1 vote. And naturally, in one of the districts where Obama won 100% of the vote, there was 100% turnout. What a coincidence!

By the way, in case you are thinking that Romney did so poorly because maybe those districts were not very populated: Nope. In those 44 districts, Mr. Obama won 14,686 to 23. That’s .16% of the vote for Romney.

But Ohio’s not important in the electoral college, right?

http://www.punditpress.com/2012/11/what-luck-obama-won-dozens-of-cleveland.html

Something is ROTTEN.
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November 9, 2012 6:24pm
eszett

As i said before, Fletch, you spend way too much time on Obama-hating echo chambers. Get a life
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November 9, 2012 6:27pm
Fletch

eszett, so how is this not fraud?
Explain this to me.

It’s easy to call me an Obama hater, but you’ve changed the subject by turning the attention of your remark to what you think of me without actually addressing the original question of voter fraud.

DO you actually have anything useful to contribute as regards that?
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November 9, 2012 6:36pm
Sofia

Monk, who lost his son Michael in the blast, said Key always told families if they produced a safe and credible recovery plan, money was not an issue.
The experts gave their time to the families for free but their trip was funded by the Climate Change Foundation to write a case study for the United Nations about the tragedy ”to ensure the lessons are viewed with a more international perspective”.

Nice of the Climate Change Foundation – perhaps
But what should the UN know beyond the details in a copy of the Pike River Report will tell them?
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November 9, 2012 6:57pm
RightNow

Shoot on sight:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10846262
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November 9, 2012 7:13pm
leftyliberal

@Fletch: Apply some critical thinking. The wards in question are 97% african american and are low-socioeconomic areas. Romney has polled throughout this campaign at or around 0% within the african american demographic, thus this is not a particularly unusual result.

I’m sure you’ll find the exact same results the other way around in some wards within Republican-heavy territories.
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November 9, 2012 7:13pm
MT_Tinman

Fantastic stuff!

I have no doubt for the next four years it will not be Obama is a Kenyan it will be Obama was not re-elected.

At least it’s a change
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November 9, 2012 7:38pm
eszett

Critical thinking, Fletch.

Obama won all the swing states, but N.C and won the popular vote by 3m votes.

But, please, go on, keep on reading those sites and keep on believing what you’d wish to be true rather than what is true.
Fantasyland is sooo much more comforting than the cold hard truth.
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November 9, 2012 7:39pm
publicwatchdog

Seen this Kiwibloggers?

The latest from Cronywatch… http://fmacskasy.wordpress.com/2012/11/09/crony-watch-2/

This ‘revolving door’ is another form of GRAND CORRUPTION which is endemic in New Zealand.

There should be a ‘quarantine’ period of 18 months / 2 years from the time politicians and senior staff leave the public service to when they take up employment in the private sector in an area where they could be seen to be using their contacts etc…..

eg: Former Minister of Justice and Commerce – Simon Power – going straight from Parliament to head the Westpac private bank. In Australia – both at Commonwealth and State Government level – that would be illegal.

The term is ‘post-separation employment’.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/5767710/Simon-Power-to-head-Westpac-Private-Bank

Simon Power to head Westpac Private Bank
Last updated 14:20 11/10/2011

MOVING ON: Justice Minister Simon Power will take over as head of Westpac Private Bank.

Cabinet minister Simon Power will be taking over as the head of Westpac Private Bank, it was announced today.

The Rangitikei MP, 41, has been a National MP for 12 years and was tipped as the next party leader until his shock decision to stand down at the November general election.

Power said he felt he was young enough to have a second career.

Today, it was announced the commerce and justice minister would head Westpac Private Bank, a subsidiary of Westpac which deals with premium personal customers.
……………..
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http://www.icac.nsw.gov.au/preventing-corruption/knowing-your-risks/post-separation-employment/4301

Post-separation employment

Post-separation employment is the situation where a public official leaves the public sector and obtains employment in the private sector. The principle underlying the management of post-separation employment is the need to ensure that public sector decisions are made only on their merits and not compromised by extraneous considerations or personal interests.
The Department of Premier and Cabinet Personnel Handbook refers to this issue in Section 8-12:

Employees should not use their position to obtain opportunities for future employment. They should not allow themselves or their work to be influenced by plans for, or offers of, employment outside the department.

The type of employment which may be cause for concern is that which bears a close or sensitive relationship with the person’s former position as a public official. Examples might be regulators who go to work in an industry they formerly regulated, an adviser or chief executive who resigns from the public service to work in the private sector in the area of his or her former expertise, or a former government minister who obtains work as a political lobbyist.

The risk of corruption is higher if the post-separation work involves contact with the former department, colleagues, or staff of the former public official. For the most part former public officials have no restrictions imposed on the type of employment they can obtain after they leave the public sector, and many post-separation employment problems only emerge after the public official has left public sector employment.

Corrupt conduct related to the post-separation employment of a public official can occur either before or after the official leaves public employment.

Corruption risks

A risk assessment of the management of post-separation employment is likely to identify some or all of the following corruption risks:

A current public official using their position to obtain an advantage for their future employment.

A former public official attempting to influence former colleagues to make decisions that favour their new employment or private business.

A former public official establishing their own business in the same field as the public agency and approaching the agency’s clients for business, using confidential information gained from the agency.

A former public official becoming a lobbyist for a private organisation or specialist group and trying to gain confidential information or favourable treatment from former colleagues.

A current public official stealing information, intellectual property, or other resources to develop their own business and/or to enhance employment prospects with other agencies and organisations.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________

Penny Bright
‘Anti-corruption campaigner’

http://www.dodgyjohnhasgone.com
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November 9, 2012 7:49pm
nasska

Chorus were going to hire one team of telephone pole installers & the boss had to choose between a team of two Maori guys & a team of two Irish guys. So the boss met with both teams & said “Here’s what we’ll do. Each team will be installing poles out on the new road for a day. The team that installs the most phone poles gets the job.”

Both teams headed right out.

At end of the shift, Pat and Mike, the Irish guys, came back & the boss asked them how many they had installed. They said that it was tough going, but they’d put in twelve.

Forty-five minutes later, Rangi & Wiremu came back in & they were totally exhausted.

The boss asked, “Well, how many poles did you guys install?” Rangi, the team leader, wiped his brow and sighed, “Wiremu & me, we got three in.” The boss gasped, “Three? Those two Irish guys put in twelve!” “Yeah,” said Rangi, “but you should see how much they left sticking out of the ground!”
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November 9, 2012 8:04pm
Fairfacts Media

From Instapundit

In keeping with Professor Jacobson’s warning concerning the media’s “Operation Demoralize” campaign, already in full swing, have you noticed how the role of “Superstorm Sandy” in Obama’s win has now largely been buried by the mainstream media? Other than Chris Matthews’ now infamous praising of God for the political gift the storm provided to Obama, and some mention of the AP’s exit poll data showing 42% of those polled reported being positively influenced to vote for Obama based on his purported stellar handling of the emergency response to the storm, Superstorm Sandy has not found its way into many MSM election post mortems. The reason for that should be readily apparent. The mainstream media’s preferred narrative has predictably changed. Now, the Obama victory is being depicted as the result of America’s widespread disapproval and rejection of Republicans and their extremist, white-focused policies and ideology.

A week before the election, the in-the-tank-for-Obama MSM was deeply worried that Romney was going to beat their guy, so they played up Superstorm Sandy and the game-changing effect it was having on the election for all it was worth. Suddenly, Chris Christie was someone to be listened to, ad nauseum, rather than being dismissed as a partisan Republican attack dog. However, with Obama’s re-election now safely in the bag, the MSM would prefer that Americans forget that a freak storm probably averted an Obama loss. Obviously, such a loss would entirely preempt “Operation Demoralize,” and the only thing the MSM enjoys more than helping elect Democrats is predicting doom and despair for Republicans.

“Operation Demoralize” completely falls apart if one considers just how close the margin of victory was for Obama in the four swing states that decided the election, and how Superstorm Sandy almost certainly moved enough votes from Romney to Obama to provide the election of victory. In Florida, with nearly 8.3 million ballots cast, the margin of victory was a mere 52,000 votes. Because this U.S. presidential election was a two person race, a takeaway by one candidate from another represents a two vote swing. Accordingly, if somewhere in the order of 26,000 Floridians, out of 8.3 million, decided that they were changing their vote from Romney to Obama based on his supposed “heckuva job” in relation to the storm response, those voters alone decided Florida’s 29 electoral votes. Given the AP exit poll and its 42% figure for those who claimed the storm influenced their decision to vote for Obama, it’s safe to say that Superstorm Sandy threw far more than 26,000 voters into Obama’s column and out of Romney’s.

The same argument can be made in Ohio. 5.3 million votes cast, margin of victory: 103,000. If the storm flipped about 52,000 votes or more from Romney to Obama, then no storm meant Ohio would have been a Romney win on election day.

In Virginia, 3.7 million votes cast, margin of victory: 107,000. If the storm influenced 54,000 voters or more to abandon Romney for Obama, the storm was decisive in converting a Romney win in Virginia to an Obama win.

In Colorado, nearly 2.4 million votes cast, margin of victory: 113,000. If 57,000 voters or more moved from the Romney camp to the Obama camp based on the storm, then Obama doesn’t win the state if the storm never happens.

A Romney win in these four states would have given him the election.

I want to emphasize that these are very small numbers of voters in relation to the overall number of votes cast in these states, and with such a high percentage of voters in the AP poll attributing their vote in large measure to Obama’s positive media coverage from the storm, I don’t think there’s much doubt that Obama loses the election, albeit narrowly, if Superstorm Sandy never happened. But for our illustrious media elites, the truth won’t do, not when such a grand opportunity for another anti-Republican hatchet job has presented itself…
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November 9, 2012 8:23pm
Fairfacts Media

Oh and Gates of Vienna has collated a raft of election abuses committed by the Democrats that together could be significant.
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.co.nz/2012/11/cowards-lose.html
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November 9, 2012 8:31pm
Fletch

Since the election, at least 45 businesses have announced layoffs or job cuts. Including –

• Energizer –

The St. Louis-based company said Thursday that it expects to shed about 1,500 employees. When finished, the restructuring should lead to $200 million in pretax yearly savings, Energizer said. It aims to have most of its restructuring steps finished by the end of September 2014.

• Westinghouse –

Westinghouse Anniston, the contractor responsible for shutting down Anniston’s chemical weapons incinerator, has reduced its workforce by another 50 employees.

• Research in Motion Limited –

Research in Motion Ltd., the maker of BlackBerry smartphones, laid off about 200 people at its U.S. headquarters in Irving on Wednesday, according to a source close to the company who did not want to be named.

• Lightyear Network Solutions –

More than one dozen employees at a Pikeville company lost their jobs this week. Officials with Lightyear Network Solutions said they are consolidating offices in Louisville and Pikeville to save money.

• Providence Journal –

The Providence Journal Co. laid off 23 full-time workers Wednesday as part of a cost-cutting effort, including 16 members of the Providence Newspaper Guild and 7 non-union employees.

• Hawker Beechcraft –

The company says 240 employees will lose their jobs with the closing of Hawker Beechcraft Services facilities in Little Rock, Ark.; Mesa, Ariz.; and San Antonio, Texas.

• Boeing (30% of their management staff) –

Boeing Co.BA +1.24% said Wednesday it plans to employ 30% fewer executives at its Boeing Defense, Space & Security unit by the end of 2012 compared to 2010 levels.

• CVPH Medical Center –

CVPH Medical Center has handed pink slips to 17 employees. The layoffs — nine in management and eight hourly staffers — are part of an effort to “help bolster the hospital’s financial position in 2013 and beyond,” a press release said.

• US Cellular –

The move will result in 980 job cuts at U.S. Cellular, with 640 in the Chicago area, according to a spokeswoman. The cuts are slightly under 12 percent of the approximately 8,400 total employees U.S. Cellular had at the end of the third quarter.

• Momentive Performance Materials –

About 150 workers at Sistersville’s Momentive Performance Materials plant will be temporarily laid off later this month, officials said this week.

• Rocketdyne –

About 100 employees at Pratt & Whitney Rocketdyne, most of whom work in the San Fernando Valley, were laid off Wednesday in response to dwindling government spending on space exploration, the company said. The layoffs were effective immediately, and 75 percent of them came at the facilities on Canoga and De Soto avenues, which employ about 1,100 people. The company has six sites across the Valley.

• Brake Parts –

The leader of an automotive parts plant in Lincoln County has told state officials that there are plans to lay off 75 workers starting in late December…The layoffs are expected to start Dec. 28 and continue in the first quarter of 2013
• Vestas Wind Systems –
Vestas Wind Systems A/S (VWS) is seeking to sell a stake of as much as 20 percent and said it’s reducing headcount by 3,000 to raise the staff cuts by the biggest wind turbine maker to almost a third over two years.

• Husqvarna –

Husqvarna AB (HUSQB), the world’s biggest maker of powered garden tools, plans to cut about 600 jobs in a move that will save 220 million kronor ($33 million) a year by 2014.

• Center for Hospice New York –

The Center for Hospice and Palliative Care plans to temporarily lay off as many as 40 employees next year as it embarks on a major renovation of the inpatient unit at its Cheektowaga campus.

• Bristol-Meyers –

Bristol-Myers Squibb ($BMY) is following up its lackluster third-quarter results with almost 480 layoffs. As Pharmalot reports, the company notified the New Jersey government that it would scale back in Plainsboro, which means the cuts will hit its sales operations.

• OCE North America –

Trumbull printer- and scanning-equipment provider Oce North America, Inc. will lay off 135 workers in three Connecticut communities, including East Hartford, according to its notice with the state Labor Department.

• Darden Restaurants –

The company, which was among those who had received an Obamacare waiver in the past, is looking to limit workers to 28 hours per week. A full time employee that is required to have health insurance (lest the employer pay a fine) works 30 hours per week, as defined by the Obamacare law.

• United Blood Services Gulf –

United Blood Services Gulf South region, the non-profit blood service provider for much of south Louisiana and Mississippi, will lay off approximately 10 percent of its workforce. It was a hard decision to make according to Susan Begnaud, Regional Center Director for the Gulf South region.
A layoff is tough enough for employees to deal with, imagine hearing the crushing news that your office is shutting down just before Thanksgiving and Christmas… Here are some of the business closings that were announced in just the past two days:

Caterpillar Inc. will close its plant in Owatonna Minn.
Mount Pleasant’s Albrecht Sentry Foods
The Target store at Manassas Mall Va.
Millennium Academy in Wake Forest NC
Target Closing Kissimmee FL Location
The Andover Gift Shop in Andover MA
Grand Union Family Markets Closing Storrs Location CT
Movie Scene Milford Location NH
Update: TE Connectivity Closing Greensboro Plant – 620 Layoffs Expected
Gomer’s Fried Chicken in South Kansas City
Kmart in Homer Glen
Fresh Market on Pine Street in Burlington
AGC Glass North America to permanently close its Blue Ridge Plant in Kingsport Tenn.
The Target store at Platte and Academy in Colorado Springs
The Roses store on Reynold Road in Winston-Salem NC
Meanders Kitchen losing its West Seattle location at 6032 California Ave
Bost Harley-Davidson at 46th Avenue North and Delaware Ave. in West Nashville TN
Townsend Booksellers in Oakland
The Kmart store in Parkway Plaza off University Drive in Durham NC – 79 Jobs Lost
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November 9, 2012 9:43pm
Longknives

Fletch- Are those stats confirmed? They seem quite bizarre…..
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November 9, 2012 9:53pm
Fletch

Longknives, see the Daily Job Cut website, updated daily with links they have closures, too. –

http://www.dailyjobcuts.com/
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November 9, 2012 9:57pm
mikenmild

Wow, massive electoral fraud has to be the only way to explain the US election result, eh? Obsessive much?
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November 9, 2012 10:21pm
Fletch

Like no one complained at all when Bush won against Gore in 2000…
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November 9, 2012 10:58pm
Francis_X

@ Fletch

!!!!!?????

Are you being sarcastic?
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November 10, 2012 11:45pm
SPC

Fletch, the relative comparison would be if 5 businesses laid off staff within days of an election here.

The pertinent question is how many firms lay off staff in the average week in the USA? And what the average number of firms laying off staff is here each week etc.
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November 11, 2012 12:11am