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b1gdaddynz

Am I first!
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November 6, 2012 8:02am
Griff

Its gay to be first unless you add some thing else
One more day and the wailing and gnashing of teeth will be heard far and wide
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November 6, 2012 8:03am
Lance

@Griff
Apparently it’s gay to call something gay now.
Better watch out for the PC Police
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November 6, 2012 8:06am
RightNow

True Griff, regardless of the outcome.
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November 6, 2012 8:07am
iMP

Who to blame and what to do re Pike River. A creative response.

http://conzervative.wordpress.com/2012/11/06/pike-river-punishment-justice/
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November 6, 2012 8:11am
b1gdaddynz

Griff- Am I happy or weird for being first? Does anyone else find it annoying that the MSM actually report shit like a throw away comment about a “gay red shirt” for 3 or 4 days like it’s actually news? Also why are people in this country so short sighted that just because they don’t like this Government then everything is their fault and nothing that was done by any previous Government contributes to the problem. A “Pike River” type disaster was at least 20 years in the making and no previous Government did anything to stop it from happening!
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November 6, 2012 8:15am
david

Serious enough for a Green MP (Kevin Haigh) to seek air time among his busy schedule running the country and decry this terrible insult to the gay community. Since when did homosexuals own the word gay and its single, unchallengable meaning?

signed
Puzzled in Eketahuna
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November 6, 2012 8:27am
Griff

b1gdaddynz
Sorry for the personal attack it was meant 100% in jest
Many times a comment or conversation can be taken offence at especially if its taken out of context or personally
language changes at times along the generational divide. When I communicate with the young guys I know they take GAY as mostly in a non confrontational way ie we throw gay at each others music and taste in clothes with gay abandon

Having been a health and safety delegate I find that the workers are mostly to blame for unsafe conditions. Imp seeks to blame everyone else but and also seeks the government to make it better by transferring wealth from us the tax payer to those who were responsible for the mine safety on the day-to-day operational level. The guys at the coal face as it were
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November 6, 2012 8:31am
Jimbob

Good little piece by Bob Jones on “NZHerald” about the Bain case.
Very interesting.
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November 6, 2012 8:43am
Pete George

Gay is naff.

naff

British slang, today meaning uncool, tacky, unfashionable, worthless… or as a softer expletive, in places where one might use “fuck” as in “naff off”, “naff all”, “naffing about”.

Origins of the word are disputed, but it appears to have come from Polari (gay slang), used to dismissively refer to heterosexual people. It was introduced as a less offensive expletive verb (“naff off”) in the ’70s UK television show, Porridge. “Naff off!” was famously used by Princess Anne in 1982.

Naff the naffing naffers.

Ironically: gay slang used to dismissively refer to heterosexual people.

But the expletive version doesn’t fit, “gay the gaying gayers” doesn’t have the same ring to it.
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November 6, 2012 8:44am
Griff

Smeg
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November 6, 2012 8:47am
Puzzled in Ekatahuna

david – I didn’t sign your 8.27 comment

And in fact I am old enough to know that gay meant something else [happy, frivolous etc] before homosexuals took it over – so bugger them now that teenagers [mainly] have taken it to mean yet something else now.
Kevin Haigh should get Max Key to update him.

[Historic note: behind-the-school-bikesheds joke was something like –
At the party everyone felt merry and gay – then Mary and Gaye went home.
Which was pretty gay – latest use]
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November 6, 2012 8:48am
Griff

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-05/what-scale-tragedy-might-awaken-americans-to-climate-risk-.html

“Sure, it would be rash to describe Hurricane Sandy as climate change incarnate. But it does make one wonder just how much longer we can ignore the bigger picture.”

“Standard property & casualty insurance companies have largely been prevented from pricing the full cost of climate change into the premiums their customers pay, mostly due to opportunistic short-term competitors and state regulators loath to allow large increases in premiums. Reinsurance companies — those that insure the insurers — have no such restrictions, and are aggressively reducing their climate risk. They are trying to raise rates on insurers with heavy exposure to coastal regions. The risk affects their bottom line and they are pushing insurance premiums up around the world.”
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November 6, 2012 8:50am
KiwiGreg

@ Griff extra points for gratuitous Red Dwarf reference :).

I’m pretty sure in the reported comments nobody from the gay community was up in arms about JK’s comments.
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November 6, 2012 8:50am
KiwiGreg

@ Griff given its owner’s political propensities I wouldn’t trust Bloomberg on any “climate change” reporting. The MAIN problem is in fact states preventing insurance companies recovering full premiums from people building on the coastlines or in the middle of tornado country.
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November 6, 2012 8:52am
dime

people are surprised that the “gay shirt” thing has been blown up by the media?

of course it was going to be. especially after the beckham thing.

its like when a pitbull eats a kid. sure as anything there will be more dog attacking human stories in the following days. “8 yr old poodle snaps at his 90 yr old owner” etc

also, this is a country where the media awards dished out the best story gong to the idiots behind the “tea pot tapes”. seriously, grown men banging on about “tea pot tapes”. now thats just GAY
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November 6, 2012 8:56am
Longknives

Very well written piece from Bob Jones, except for overlooking one tiny fact- That the paper boy clearly did it…
But hey, lets not let facts get in the way of a ‘feel good’ Rubin Carter-type bullshit story. I wonder if Denzel is available for this one??
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November 6, 2012 9:00am
Griff

@ KiwiGreg
The same story line has been repeated in the insurance industry’s own publications.Its a good solid argument from the perception of the right to begin to examine what is actually happening from a non ideological standpoint. At present the usa’s political “culture wars” standpoint encapsulate the problem . If it costs more the market itself will begin to factor climate change into coastal and low-lying developement
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November 6, 2012 9:00am
KiwiGreg

only if they are allowed to (and its the development not “climate change” which is the problem). In fact, give the regulatory response a number of insurance companies are just getting out of the market. Again, nothing to do with climate change, everything to do with states preventing firms charging the full risk adjusted cost.
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November 6, 2012 9:05am
tom hunter

True Griff, regardless of the outcome.

I think there will be less on the left if Obama loses simply because the whole Hope n’ Change (TM) crapola has long since evaporated. They’ll vote for him merely to stop the GOP and out of the usual tribal solidarity – but the disappointment goes deep.

As far as I’m concerned I’ve already laid out how little I think of Candidate Squish, but it’s the old least-worst choice. I’ve also long held that Obama would be the lamest lame duck in US Presidential history if he gets reelected – from day one. And I don’t think he would actually care; it’s always been about the campaign race for him. Governing? That’s for the minions.

As far as the race itself is concerned I think it’s going to be quite exciting, as much for what the Internet delivers to our screens now, as for the race itself. Even a decade ago following a US election was little different than decades past: waiting on some TV jerk to wave his hands across some US map showing blue and red. But now I get to see vote totals second-by-second, right down to the damned counties of the states. It gets one about as close as possible to what the campaign teams are watching and tracking. You can lay out measures, i.e. if Romney loses Buck, Chester, Delaware and Montgomery counties in Pennsylvania by less than 400,000 it probably means he wins the state – and so forth. That’s pretty cool and I’m looking forward to it.

Better than watching Loy’s hurricane tracking blog!
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November 6, 2012 9:11am
Longknives

Damien Oliver wins his third Cup this afternoon….take the $7 on offer.
Look to the likes of Cavalryman, Sanagas or Zabeelionare to bump up the Trifecta…

Thank me later.
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November 6, 2012 9:13am
Griff

@kiwigreg
The increasing costs in the natural disaster insurance industry are the direct result of the changing climate
This is acknowledged by the reinsurance industry the direct cost of natural disasters is easy to researched if you do not believe bloomsberg.
There is a point were continual denial is no longer tenable even Romney admits climate change is having an effect

Que: The climate is always changing naturally despite the evidence of the man made role in the present changes 😆
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November 6, 2012 9:16am
hinamanu

Jon Corzine in jail

Jon Corzine…former US Senator…former Governor of New Jersey…former CEO of Goldman Sachs

He’s the guy who rolled the dice with segregated customer funds, lost, bankrupted the company, lied about it…and has somehow managed to avoid jail.

We shall see,

http://www.realecontv.com/videos/mf-global-/jon-corzine-in-jail-.html
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November 6, 2012 9:44am
Short Shriveled and Slightly to the Left

Come on Sanagas!
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November 6, 2012 9:47am
hinamanu

Only because they corner 90% of the market doesn’t mean they’re a monopoly

Monopolies are not natural
They’re a political product

Excellent, eye-openning book.

Why isn’t this guy featured on TV?

Barry C. Lynn introduces his book CORNERED: THE NEW MONOPOLY CAPITALISM AND THE ECONOMICS OF DESTRUCTION (2010)

http://www.realecontv.com/videos/corporate-criminality–1/choked-by-monopolies.html
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November 6, 2012 9:50am
b1gdaddynz

Griff- That wasn’t a personal attack and 100% no offence taken!
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November 6, 2012 9:51am
Manolo

How more savage can you be? http://news.msn.co.nz/worldnews/8559627/pakistan-girl-fated-to-die-in-acid-attack
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November 6, 2012 9:52am
Pete George

As far as the race itself is concerned I think it’s going to be quite exciting…

Having been excited by the last few presidential contests I’m over it. I haven’t taken much interest in this one and don’t really care who loses.

Romna or Obamey, what does it really matter? Either will be both hobbled and coerced by the US system.

I’ve been disappointed by Obama (albeit with low expectations).

I have reservations about Romney, but have a slight preference towards him just because there’s a slight possibility he will make a real difference that I can’t see coming from the incumbent. But voting in new leaders is political roulette, you simply don’t know how they will perform until they are in office.
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November 6, 2012 10:04am
david

Dear Puzzled in Eketahuna
sincere apologies for taking your nom de plume in vain. I was trying to think of a suitable throwaway nickname (like Lonely in Seattle) and that was the first thing that popped into my head. Certainly the puzzled bit fits in this case. Shows you have brand recognition tho’

cheers
david in downtown

I’m still puzzled tho’ that we are fed the sort of manure that makes the MSM these days and seem to accept it. Perhaps the thing is that we have little recourse to make our feelings heard. We can’t shout them down and the editors and those who write the juvenile scribble that passes for news (or tries to make the news which is even worse) appear to be answerable to no-one and quite anonymous so they never have to stand behind what they say. Bah humbug
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November 6, 2012 10:04am
wreck1080

Stores are advertising that they are selling the “new ipad”.

But, it is not the new ipad, it is the old a5x ipad. The new ipad released last week has the a6x chip.

I wonder if they are breaking some kind of consumer law by misrepresentation. You would assume ‘new ipad’ would refer to the most recent model.

Check it out…

http://www.dicksmith.co.nz/list/thenewipad
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November 6, 2012 10:13am
Griff

Has the herald gone behind a pay wall? Every time I try to access their site I get snap
It could be my software I just had to reboot windows and reload chrome etc. I may have not updated or loaded something that the herald site needs to run
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November 6, 2012 10:17am
Manolo

.. voting in new leaders is political roulette, you simply don’t know how they will perform until they are in office.

Fitting words, very applicable to Smile and Wave.
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November 6, 2012 10:20am
hmmokrightitis

Works fine for me Griff, and theres no way in hell Im paying the bastards anything. Its a diversion whilst enjoying a cup of tea 🙂
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November 6, 2012 10:34am
Griff

Thanks hmmokrightitis I will start checking java and the other add ons to chrome to find what I am missing
Time for my programmers hat 😀
I like to see as many versions of the news as possible to help sort the spin from the reality.
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November 6, 2012 10:50am
Pete George

MMP coat tailing and thresholds

A post by Alistair Young at Liberation defends coat tailing in MMP and advocates for a lower threshold.

The status quo or tweaks as recommended by the Electoral Commission are weighted in favour of incumbent larger parties.

Alistair concludes on coat tailing:

We are currently looking at the imminent demise of United and Act. With Winston Peters entering his tobacco accelerated dotage we will be down to three dominant parties (National, Labour and the Greens) with the two Maori-focused parties at the margins. Eliminating coat-tailing will guarantee the Maori focused parties stay at the margins leaving us with a future of only three political parties in an MMP system – ‘FPP with lipstick’.

Even if Winston and NZF survives that leaves National and Labour probably needing either (or both) Greens and NZF to form a coalition, without theoption of alternative arrnagements with small parties.

And on the threshold:

Reducing the threshold to 3% would allow new political forces to emerge with reasonable ease. Keeping coat-tailing will improve the durability of those emerging political forces which are compatible with either of the two main parties, sustaining the new political forces and generating greater stability once they mature, undeniably a virtuous cycle of political stability and diversity.

I agree that a lower threshold will actually improve stability by enabling more small party options for coalitions. And it improves diversity and democratic representation.
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November 6, 2012 11:10am
Manolo

Seventy-eight percent of the French want US President Barack Obama to be reelected in Tuesday’s vote, said a poll that showed that even a majority of extreme-right voters here backed the Democratic candidate.
http://www.breitbart.com/system/wire/CNG—55f275e3033e718e74dec65238991a94—251
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November 6, 2012 11:29am
hinamanu

How far could this story go in NZ before the bureaucrats stepped in ??

James Bowen wasn’t always a cat person. Before, he was a homeless heroin addict struggling to take care of himself.

But, according to the Daily Mail, when Bob showed up on his doorstep, wounded and ill, little did Bowen know that both their lives would turn a corner.

And it seems they are destined to be together – Bowen, an aspiring musician and Bob, a ginger cat with a big personality.

They have become a regular sight on the streets of London and Bob has almost tripled the busking income of Bowen, who now has his life back on track.

Their story has already been turned into a best-selling book, and Bowen is now leading discussions to have it turned into a Hollywood movie.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/music/7911851/Busking-cat-is-heading-to-Hollywood
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November 6, 2012 11:34am
Ryan Sproull

Teenagers haven’t changed the meaning of the word “gay” when they use it to mean bad in some way, any more than they’ve changed the meaning of the word “black” when they use it to mean bad in some way or calling a friend a “fag” for canceling on a party or something. Nor are they radically advancing the evolution of language when they refer to each other as “jewing out on a deal”, for example.

Just another reason Key shouldn’t be taking his linguistic cues from kids.
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November 6, 2012 11:36am
liarbors a joke

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/7911265/McKellens-words-to-PM-over-gay-shirt-saga

Precious little things these gays…who cares what a washed up old actor has to say about it..the shirt was gay anyway..have a look !
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November 6, 2012 11:37am
Lance

@liarbours a joke.
You look like a dick when you describe Sir Ian as a “washed up old actor”

You set the bar pretty high. I would hate to think who would qualify as an acceptable actor to you?

On the other hand, yes this is overreaction by the gay lobby.
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November 6, 2012 12:43pm
liarbors a joke

sorry Lance, I should have said ” washed up old gay actor “. My apologies. Oh, Clint Eastwoods my pick.
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November 6, 2012 12:45pm
Sofia

Shearer said no wrongdoing by the former Labour government was identified.
“But we search our souls as well about whether we could have done more.”
Labour had tightened mining regulations in 2003 and reviewed the sector again in 2008 but the incoming National government had not taken up its recommendations, he said.
Labour’s industrial relations spokeswoman Darien Fenton said Wilkinson should step down from Cabinet altogether.

If a Government Minister resigns, why not the Opposition Spokespersons on the same portfolio, as they have failed too, unless substantial Parliament Questions or media statements show reasonable opposition or safeguard action as they are payed to be?
Otherwise what is a fucking Opposition for?
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November 6, 2012 12:47pm
Reid

Ryan if it was a gay shirt it was a gay shirt. And it was a pretty gay shirt.
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November 6, 2012 12:47pm
Kea

Lance, the only people who listen to the brain farts of actors, are morons who should not be allowed to vote, or have children.

The ignorant old fool has far less relevance, in the real world, than the man who picks up my rubbish bags. How about the media speak to the rubbish guys instead.
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November 6, 2012 12:48pm
Lance

@Kea
Agree entirely. I would add musicians to that.

Just pointing out that Sir Ian can actually act IMHO. But as you point out, he should perhaps leave it at that and avoid politics.
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November 6, 2012 12:54pm
Short Shriveled and Slightly to the Left

“The ignorant old fool has far less relevance, in the real world, than the man who picks up my rubbish bags. How about the media speak to the rubbish guys instead.”

does your rubbish man have a knighthood?
seriously you are a big fucking idiot
demerit away DPF
but Kea is a pretty big fucking moron
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November 6, 2012 1:02pm
Lance

This is so bloody funny
“Will the real Mitt Romney Please Stand Up”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxch-yi14BE&feature=g-vrec

For balance… One for Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQu2SVFF-cU
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November 6, 2012 1:02pm
lilman

Fuck of Gandolf you you piss me off,key atleast adds to the mix all you have ever done is nail guys backsides
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November 6, 2012 1:02pm
Ryan Sproull

Ryan if it was a gay shirt it was a gay shirt. And it was a pretty gay shirt.

Okay. How so?
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November 6, 2012 1:12pm
RightNow

“I would hate to think who would qualify as an acceptable actor to you?”

This guy (for me anyway): http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=tGhDWWlIotk&feature=endscreen
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November 6, 2012 1:15pm
Reid

Okay. How so?

Gay like this Ryan.
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November 6, 2012 1:34pm
Ryan Sproull

What makes that gay, Reid? Are we still working with Key’s “weird” definition?
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November 6, 2012 2:14pm
Kea

does your rubbish man have a knighthood?
seriously you are a big fucking idiot
demerit away DPF
but Kea is a pretty big fucking moron

Mr Short Shriveled and Slightly to the Left, He got a knighthood for his acting (pretending) ability, not for his profound social commentary.

My rubbish man only gets rewarded for doing real work. I don’t much care for your elitist view, nor am I overly impressed by Knighthoods.

(I bet your a lefty)
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November 6, 2012 2:14pm
Pete George

With their Green coats removed perhaps… Revealing?
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November 6, 2012 2:17pm
Reid

What makes that gay, Reid?

It just is Ryan. If you can’t see that, I feel sorry for you, you’ve missed out on a hell of a lot of good laughs over the last few decades. It’s definitely been a gay old time.
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November 6, 2012 2:29pm
Longknives

Speaking of Gay-

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/celebrities/7912841/Adult-Bieber-doll-hits-the-shelves
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November 6, 2012 2:37pm
liarbors a joke

McKellens opinion on anything political is as relevant as that silly cow Malcolms views on politics…or Lawless or Castle-Spews.
They need to stick to ” pretending ” ( I like that ) and leave the politics to those who have a bit of credibility.
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November 6, 2012 2:40pm
Harriet

C’mon Ryan it’s gay!

Pushbike riding while wearing fluro sausage skin clothing is also gay!

So too are those small square framed glasses like the ones that Labour’s Little wears – in aussie they are mostly worn by inner city gay green party members. Gays in health wear them too!

Lots of things are gay!

Men with tatts and fat women arn’t gay as they still remain as they always have – as a fucken circus act! 😎
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November 6, 2012 2:48pm
hinamanu

Next time your kids get fussy with their food tell them there are masses in the USA starving
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November 6, 2012 2:50pm
Elaycee

Harriet:

Men with tatts and fat women arn’t gay as they still remain as they always have – as a fucken circus act! 😀

Brilliant! But now I have to wipe up the coffee….
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November 6, 2012 2:55pm
hinamanu

The fraudulence of the lefts concern about poverty is exposed by their utter lack of interest in creating a nations wealth

Thomas Sowell
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November 6, 2012 2:57pm
liarbors a joke

Walking down the street holding a takeaway latte/cappuccino/ is gay as well.
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November 6, 2012 2:57pm
Ed Snack

Liarbor, but holding a long black is just IT.
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November 6, 2012 3:02pm
hinamanu

No problem with walking and drinking.

Drinking coffee in a suit looks real impressive
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November 6, 2012 3:05pm
liarbors a joke

“Drinking coffee in a suit looks real impressive”

..whilst having a loud conversation on the cellphone with a plated lemon cream cheese muffin nearby..now thats gay.
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November 6, 2012 3:08pm
Harriet

‘….Thomas Sowell…’

He’s a black from the right – really hated by the democrates.
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November 6, 2012 3:09pm
Longknives

“..whilst having a loud conversation on the cellphone with a plated lemon cream cheese muffin nearby..now thats gay.”

You forgot to mention the overly thick black rimmed spectacles that all the ‘Hipster’ tosspots are wearing these days….
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November 6, 2012 3:15pm
Monique Watson

http://nowoccupy.blogspot.com/2012/11/a-piece-of-bat-shit.html

JK on Beckham
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November 6, 2012 3:20pm
Reid

Quite a good article building on the lobby thread we had the other week:

WASHINGTON’S POWER 25 WHICH PRESSURE GROUPS ARE BEST AT MANIPULATING THE LAWS WE LIVE BY? A GROUNDBREAKING FORTUNE SURVEY REVEALS WHO BELONGS TO LOBBYING’S ELITE AND WHY THEY WIELD SO MUCH CLOUT.
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November 6, 2012 3:35pm
Reid

This is a very good analysis of an important development in the leadup to the ten yearly Chinese leadership changeover.

China’s economic destiny in doubt after leadership shock: The forces of reaction and economic folly threaten to prevail in China. The long political arm of Jiang Zemin has reached out from the shadows to thwart reform, with huge implications for Asia and the world.

The low-hanging fruit of state-driven industrialisation has been picked. Stagnation lies in wait if the country clings to the dirigiste model. “China has reached another turning point in its development path when a second strategic, and no less fundamental, shift is called for,” they said,
“The forces supporting China’s continued rapid progress are gradually fading. The government’s dominance in key sectors, while earlier an advantage, is in the future likely to act as a constraint on creativity.”

Their report said the country risks hitting the sort of “invisible ceiling” that blighted Latin America in the 1960s and 1970s. Remarkably few states have managed to break out of the middle income trap and jump — as Japan, Korea, and now Chile have done — to the vastly higher per capita income levels of the OECD bloc.

China has used up its catch-up cards, reaching the Lewis Point where the flood of cheap labour from the countryside dries up. It faces a “wrenching demographic change” as the old-aged dependency ratio doubles to North European levels within 20 years.

Manufacturing wages have been rising by 16pc a year for a decade, outstripping productivity. The gains from now on must come the hard way — from inventive dynamism. That is nigh impossible in a top-down system where free thinking is suspect, and party bosses channel credit to pet projects.
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November 6, 2012 4:16pm
Grendel

the hypocrisy of the left pc brigade over this red shirt thing has been hilarious.

first there has been the utterly unironic posting on facebook by all sorts of people along the lines of “dont insult people and call them names – you dick” or “how dare he insult a group of people – all national supporters are dicks” or “dont be so rude – fuck you”.

then you have the obsession with it all. i for one am glad that JK has managed to get the watermelons so incensed that instead of trying to come up with more goofy economically destructive policies, they are focusing on wearing red shirts and taking photos of it.

Then there are the ways they debate:

when you respond to a lefty friends abusive post, calmly and politely pointing out it is common useage amongst teens (and white trash chicks from the hutt), and its just a word, you get:

1. response – claiming you are a troll. apparently disagreeing with someone is trolling.

2. appeal to authority – one of them will make a statement that your comment is wrong and irrelevant. no attempt at counter argument, just deciding that they are better than you so can write off your argument without having to actually debate it.

3. abuse – usually names, or hilariously – “well im offended, so fuck you”. play the man not the ball.

its fascinating to me how many lefties require and crave and echo chamber, and see any disagreement as ‘the enemy’ who must be crushed no matter what.

and when you really boil it down, its just a word, with multiple meanings, that have changed over the years, said on a shit radio show.

these same people are going to explode with even more rage than usual if Romney wins the election (which is about the only reason i kinda hope he wins, just to see the rage in the followers of the messiah).
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November 6, 2012 4:21pm
bereal

they used to be called ‘homos.’

Then they wanted to be called. “gays.”

Lets go back to the old days when a spade was called a fukin spade.

What’s wrong with “shirtlifters” or ‘faggots’ ?
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November 6, 2012 4:59pm
Pete George

Grendel – the Green MPs have been playing it up by wearing red shirts today, and on Facebook there’s a Gay Red Shirt day being promoted for Friday which is getting a lot of support. So many people can make light of this – except John Key of course who is banned from saying anything that might be perceived by anyone as offensive.
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November 6, 2012 5:11pm
Pete George

bereal – I see you’ve started doing nasty early today. What John Key said was repeating teenage slang. You’re being deliberately derogatory and abusive. Big difference.
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November 6, 2012 5:14pm
Grendel

PG, i saw the green mps, glad they can use taxpayer money so casually.

i do wonder why the people who are so determined to have gay shirt day did not organise tinkerbell day? or is it yet another case of National never being able to do anything the pc brigade dont like and no labour MP can ever do wrong.

its all pretty fucking gay to be honest 🙂
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November 6, 2012 5:17pm
Reid

…there’s a Gay Red Shirt day being promoted for Friday which is getting a lot of support

Isn’t that just so completely gay. I mean how can it possibly not be completely gay, in every way. If anything is ever going to be completely and utterly gay in every possible use of that word, this is.
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November 6, 2012 5:18pm
liarbors a joke

bereals gay because he obviously started on the piss early..* hic *
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November 6, 2012 5:20pm
chiz

PG:the Green MPs have been playing it up by wearing red shirts today

So, now they’re green on the inside and red on the outside? 🙂
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November 6, 2012 5:32pm
Grendel

Just to wind everyone up

http://www.cracked.com/article_20139_6-bizarre-factors-that-predict-every-presidential-election.html

and for a laugh some of these have come to pass that show both Obama and Romney winning. Dont you have correlation 🙂
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November 6, 2012 5:33pm
Reid

I’m pretty sure one of the lefty education wings will join in soon and then the hysteria will commence because it goes against their campaign in schools to stop young people feeling bad about themselves if they’re gay from hearing from others who aren’t gay, how gay everything is, and that to them is a tewwibwy inhuman thing to do, therefore, in their minds, Key hates children.

Like I said a few days ago, the Beckham reporting is a clue and a tell – IMO this gay day is just another spoke in a concerted PR campaign with all the lefty organ grinders working with double monkeys grinding furiously away trying to destroy Key’s halo. It comes on and builds on the back of the “Key looks tired” news cycle meme. It’s a designed and coordinated softening up perception management offensive from the lefties in the leadup to the next election, IMO.
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November 6, 2012 5:59pm
Viking2

New York Times,’ ‘Wall Street Journal’ Drop Paywalls for Election

http://mashable.com/2012/11/05/times-journal-drop-paywalls-election/
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November 6, 2012 6:01pm
Reid

The Pike River report raises the possibility of over-reaction in the area of govt intervention. I just listened to David Smols CEO of MBIE (Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment) on Checkpoint and one of his soundbites was that while the regime which enabled what happened stemmed back to 1992, perhaps the Dept of Labour was too sanguine in expecting compliance in employers.

And now Checkpoint is talking about an employer-wide regime being considered by a “taskforce” going across all industries.

Let’s get real. This was an industry-wide phenomena at worst, company-specific at best. So other industries are generally fine. But I wouldn’t be surprised if govt over-reacts for political reasons, not practical ones.
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November 6, 2012 6:28pm
Short Shriveled and Slightly to the Left

a bit tall poppy syndrome there Kea……
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November 6, 2012 6:31pm
Viking2

This guy is sitting at home alone,
when he hears a knock on the front door.

There are two sheriff’s deputies there;
he asks if there is a problem.

One of the deputies asks if he is married,
and if so, could he see a picture of his wife.

The guy says ‘sure’ and shows him a picture of his wife.

The deputy says,
“‘I’m sorry sir, but it looks like your wife’s been hit by a truck.”

The guy says,
“I know, but she has a great personality and is an excellent cook.”
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November 6, 2012 6:33pm
Viking2

New from Bankstown , NSW, in time for Christmas.
The latest toy has hit the shops… a talking Muslim doll.

Nobody knows what the f*#k it says,
because no one has the guts to pull the cord.
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November 6, 2012 6:34pm
Viking2

If women controlled the world.

http://screencast.com/t/bbhOF8KabHJh
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November 6, 2012 6:38pm
bereal

There are a lot of piss weak, political correct wowsers on this site.

What are these P C tossers going to say when Fat people object to being called fat ?

Old people object to being called geriatrics ? etc, etc.

How will P.C. champions such as Pete George refine his language then ?

Dear Pete George.

my point is that homos wanted to be labelled ‘gay’
they called themselves ‘gay’
now they object to the name they adopted for themselves.
And they sucked in morons such as you to their game.
And still you dance to the tune they play.
So PC. So very, very PC Pete.

Lets be honest and go back to calling them bum bandits or faggots or homos.
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November 6, 2012 6:44pm
bereal

Or buggers, or sodomites.
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November 6, 2012 6:52pm
nasska

A few we haven’t seen yet.

Ref: http://www.mandatory.com/2012/05/30/if-family-car-stickers-were-honest/
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November 6, 2012 6:55pm
Reid

Latest election polls:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/elections/
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November 6, 2012 6:57pm
bereal

nasska
remember loads of readers are like Pete George.
That is far too subtle a post for this crew.
Some morons need to have it smacked right into their head.
Even then PG and his ilk will not get the message.
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November 6, 2012 7:01pm
Kevin

“The Pike River report raises the possibility of over-reaction in the area of govt intervention.”

Another master of understatement.

We are going to be caned over this for decades. You know … Remember those tax cuts we promised, well um, …. We have a small problem of paying the 10,000 extra bureaucrats we need, to sit on their fat arses, and go to international conferences on workplace equity, ensuring work life balance and psychological safety…..
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November 6, 2012 7:17pm
Monique Watson

Bereal. I have to agree with you absolutely 100 fucking percent. The world is too fucking politically correct, A spade is a spade and gay is the cardigan your aunty got for you for Christmas.
Gay is a spectrum which makes a good many of us purple or pink or glitter coloured.
*Ducks*
@Viking2- ha ha. (snort)
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November 6, 2012 7:29pm
Steve (North Shore)

Gay?
They are ‘queers’
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November 6, 2012 7:37pm
Kea

I have a gay mate. I call him Mike.
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November 6, 2012 7:42pm
Longknives

Bereal- I agree with you on this. The Gay community just love shoving ‘Mardi Gras’ and ‘Rainbow Parades’ down our thoats (excuse the pun) where they dress loudly and flamboyantly and the more shocking the better…This is all part of ‘Gay Culture’.

Yet when someone wears a flamboyant and loud shirt and the PM suggests it looks “a bit Gay” they all scream blue murder??
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November 6, 2012 7:43pm
Pete George

Is this refined enough for you berectal? You seem to have an anal obsession.

(Apologies to any bums I may have offended).
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November 6, 2012 7:44pm
Longknives

And Monique- I have to say I just love your ‘Gutter Mouth’….
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November 6, 2012 7:45pm
Kea

they all scream

No they do not. Most of the screaming is not coming from the gay faggot poofter sodomite homos. It is coming from the usual bunch of social engineers on the left.
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November 6, 2012 7:46pm
Harriet

I like poofters…….um hold on….I mean the name. 😎

Dandy….now that is a good name for poofs.
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