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Harriet

Ethnic tribal people are the only ones in western society that are allowed to keep traditional customs. So ‘differance’ I would have thought, must then be a good thing!

Yet, everyone else in Western society has to denounce traditions for the ‘common good’ no matter what the moral benefit that they have done for mankind down through the generations.

Yet the people pushing this agenda are nothing but tribal themselves, cue feminists, gays et al: They don’t leave behind any of their practices no matter how unbeneficial they are to themselves and/or others[no man is an island – ‘we don’t hurt anyone else’ – is crap].

’emotional underdevelopment’ is the character trait of these groups, people who cannot accept their own differances, and the need then exists for these differances to be imposed on ‘others’ as not being differant, but equal.

Sad really.
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November 11, 2012 4:39pm
Harriet

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Kind regards,

Penny Dim.

‘annoy the fuck out of everyone campaigner’
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November 11, 2012 4:43pm
chiz

kea:Can someone explain to me why a man should resign from his position of the basis of who he is fucking?

Because he has a sensitive position, with access to classified national security information, that potentially makes him vulnerable to espionage or blackmail. In any case it looks like we may not have the whole story yet. It appears that Broadwell, with whom he was having the affair, may have been harassing or threatening another woman – Petraeus’ wife perhaps. Its possible that he didn’t resign because of the affair per se but because of something else related to the affair.
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November 11, 2012 4:45pm
Griff

Harriet you are referring to the conservative Christians
No one on the liberal side on here really wants to remove your right to your own beliefs.
It’s when the congregation tries to impose their morality and silly superstitious world view on the rest of us that you get resistance.Many Christians comment on here in a sane and measured way. They are not the ones trying to impose there beliefs on the rest of us. “Because God said” is not a valid tool to use in intelligent debate. Especially when a large portion of your audience are non believers.
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November 11, 2012 4:48pm
Rufus

Kea – it’s very simple. You said – “I can not be bothered with racist pretenders who are simply trying to claim the moral high ground, while pushing a recently formed Eurocentric view of the world.”

Now tell me again what your problem with the Bible is, and why. Most of it stems from the OT I’d guess.

I’d counter that most of your dislikes can be explained with reference to a different context – ie. different times, different cultures, different values/norms.

You judge other cultures, either geographically or historically distant, from the same modern, eurocentric, western values that you are accusing others here of.

You are no different to them in that regard.

My question is – on what basis do you propose to judge those cultures?

Your own subjective preferences?
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November 11, 2012 4:50pm
Rufus

So admit to having “those values yourself”, but somehow do not use them “as the gold standard by which to judge other cultures”?

How then do you judge other cultures?
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November 11, 2012 4:52pm
Harriet

Kea#

“…..Why Conservatives focus on sex so much is a puzzle to me. If I liked “the cock” it would not change my views on the core issues of how our society should be managed by government.

The right continually lose potential supporters by sticking their grubby noses into peoples bedrooms, with a promise to bring the entire government (into the bedroom) if elected.

Being a mincing faggot does not make you “left”. Most of the poofs I know are self employed business people. They are potential allies, but do want their basic freedoms protected from zealots. The whole thing is such a non issue and important issues are side lined while there is public debate about who we are allowed to fuck….”

Making money is a very private matter too – feeding, clothing and housing oneself and a family is certainly above that of ‘gay sex’. Yet governments stick their hands into our backside pockets in belief of the social ‘good’. 😎
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November 11, 2012 5:03pm
Scott Chris

How then do you judge other cultures?

Relative to their moral code.
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November 11, 2012 5:12pm
Rufus

Chiz 4:45 has a very reasonable explanation. As I understand, people in sensitive roles can lose their security clearance if they have an affair – that would impact on their ability to perform those roles.

Another explanation is that he’s being thrown under the bus. Taking one for the team, so he won’t have to testify in the upcoming Benghazi hearing.
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November 11, 2012 5:15pm
Rufus

Wasn’t asking you Chris.

Kea’s the one on the high horse at the mo.
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November 11, 2012 5:16pm
Kea

Ok Rufus I will try and outline my personal position.

I want to see every one living in a democratic society. I regard freedom of speech, and open debate, as a fundamental underpinning of a decent society. There are not exceptions to this freedom, in my book. People should not be shut down because someone takes offence to what is being said or for any other reason. This freedom helps inform the democratic process. That’s how I like things.

However, I realise that other cultures have different ways to my own. I respect those differences, even if I don’t agree with them. Many of those cultures are very old and have a huge history. They have survived all this time, without my liberal Western views, and will continue to do so. This applies to Africa. It may be that a dictatorship works better there. The plight of the African continent breaks my heart, I just want to see something that works for those people, not an ideology imposed from another culture enjoying different circumstances.

Regarding religion. I am an atheist. In day to day life I respect peoples religious beliefs and seldom debate the topic. I have Muslim & Christian friends, along with irritating new ager/spiritual types. All I ask is that the beliefs of one group are not imposed on another. And yes, that includes imposing atheism on believers. It can be a balancing act, but that is the goal.
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November 11, 2012 5:17pm
Harriet

Griff#

“….No one on the liberal side on here really wants to remove your right to your own beliefs….”

That’s true, but not the point I was making[and you know it]. They want to impose their actions and thoughts on all of us.

You only have to suggest that ‘not all relationships are the same’ which is an absolute truth, and the so called liberals stop being liberals and instead start spewing statism ‘yes they are’.

Marriage with gays involved, IS imposing an action on us – compliant ignorance.

Gays are fucken immature.
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November 11, 2012 5:18pm
Kea

Harriet, the government is not forcing you to “like the cock” , but they are forcing you to pay tax. Forget about the homos and find something important to fuss about. Homos are not a new invention made up by the liberal left, they have been with us forever. Get over it. The left have just used them as pawns in their lust for power. If the right keep their noses out of peoples bedrooms, they will find much more support. Being gay does not make you left. Get it through your head mate 🙂
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November 11, 2012 5:24pm
Griff

Your belief says they are “fucken immature”. I just Think of them as people. You seek to define marriage as between a male and a female. I don’t care who gets married including three men and a goat if that floats their boat. With the proviso that this marriage does not redefine a goat from meat,milk,wool and a type of vermin. 😆
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November 11, 2012 5:27pm
Kea

Harriet…… just read your post to Griff. Maybe I got it all wrong….

It seems that what your really saying is the only thing stopping you being heavily into “the cock” and wanting to marry a bloke, is the law of the armed State preventing you from it.

Good to see you have come out. I guess you will be posting on the Hand Mirror from now on ?
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November 11, 2012 5:30pm
Rufus

Kea – that was an uncharacteristically reasonable post.

Still haven’t answered my question – unless you admit your values are no more than your own subjective preferences, and therefore worthless, at the end of the day. Which I think you are saying in post above, but won’t take to its conclusion.

Your roar and bluster against OT Middle Eastern cultures is meaningless and illogical.
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November 11, 2012 5:31pm
nasska

What would it take for the Bible bashers to wake up, smell the coffee & enjoy the one life they are guaranteed rather than worry about the next one. Get out, drop some acid, smoke a joint, root a sheep or get sodomised……whatever grills your cheese.

Experiment & experience…..you’ll probably enjoy it! 🙂
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November 11, 2012 5:35pm
Harriet

Kea#

“….All I ask is that the beliefs of one group are not imposed on another…’

I agree with that Kea.

Rufus and the gays will always denounce facts, observations, results etc as ‘beliefs’ as they hate loseing an ‘arguement’.

The better part of Marriage is the development of children into adults.Gays don’t procreate. So gay relationships, defined by well developed adults, ARE NOT the same as hetrosexual marriage – developed adults are the very type who SHOULD be getting married.

They then impose their beliefs, which are lessor beliefs based on valid arguement, upon us by using the words ‘diverse’ ‘fair’ ‘modern’ etc – the cloak of bullshit.

Stick with your facts and observations of history Kea as it has made life better for all.

As I’ve said often before, gays ARE immature.
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November 11, 2012 5:36pm
Kea

unless you admit your values are no more than your own subjective preferences, and therefore worthless

YES I ADMIT THAT. (in the context of another culture)

It also applies to your views too my friend.

Still no idea what your on about regarding the Middle East. I don’t even know what “OT” means ?

I think the West has no reason to be there bombing them. Is that your problem ? I don’t hate Muslims. Is that your issue? I am half Syrian. Is that it ?
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November 11, 2012 5:37pm
Kea

Get out, drop some acid, smoke a joint, root a sheep or get sodomised……whatever grills your cheese.

Is that your Bucket List nasska ? 😉
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November 11, 2012 5:41pm
Griff

Rufus
Give an example of a better system to structure a society than a parliamentary democracy with the freedom of its citizens to operate within a well structured set of laws.With the inclusion of such innovations as one man one vote, equality, the separation of church and state, innocence in proven guilty and independent judiciary. There is no system on a national scale that gives the equitable outcome and freedom to live your life better than ours does
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November 11, 2012 5:45pm
Rufus

Harriet – ?

Kea. OT = Old Testament, you know, the first half of that book you hate so much, and that you judge as “evil”. I suggest you haven’t ever read it cover to cover, as an adult. You simply find bits and pieces against it from your favourite online “atheist-r-us” echo chamber.

Since your judgement is simply your personal, subjective preference, you cannot claim anything as being “evil”. That would be an absolute, objective statement. You simply don’t like something.
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November 11, 2012 5:49pm
nasska

Well the first two have been ticked off Kea. Sheep are a little too common for my exotic tastes & my haemorrhoids rule out sodomy. 🙂
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November 11, 2012 5:49pm
Harriet

Nasska#

“…root a sheep or get sodomised……whatever grills your cheese…..Experiment & experience…..you’ll probably enjoy it!….”

Thanks anyway, but I’ll just take your word about that.

Although I do like pissing all over peoples arguements. 😎
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November 11, 2012 5:51pm
Kea

Rufus, yes I figured out what OT meant. I have no problem with it, where it belongs, in the Middle East. Last time I checked the news, it was not helping things much though.

As for your remarks regarding my views and what is evil, yes agreed (again). But the same can be said about any persons views. What is your point ?

Oh and to save you the trouble, do not appeal to the/your bible as an external or higher source of absolute truth and morality 😉
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November 11, 2012 5:55pm
Harriet

Griff#

“…There is no system on a national scale that gives the equitable outcome and freedom to live your life better than ours does…”

Spot on Griff.

Or as Winston Churchill said “Democracy is at times faulty, it’s not perfect, it has failings and shortcomings, but it is far far better than everything else we have tried.”
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November 11, 2012 5:57pm
Griff

Acid nasska how evil
Spending eight hours totally amused with doing the things you do when you are doing nothing 😆
I find that pursuit of inter species sex faintly worrying. I know from experience that the pursuit of the opposite sex causes untold grief inter species dalliance would I imagine add to that considerably.
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November 11, 2012 6:00pm
nasska

Griff

Nah…..gay is so yesterday. Interspecies is the new frontier.

In any case it’s practical….Friday’s centrefold darling is Monday’s chops. 🙂
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November 11, 2012 6:05pm
Kea

I know from experience that the pursuit of the opposite sex causes untold grief

Looks like Griff will be skipping the sheep and moving right onto:

get sodomised
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November 11, 2012 6:05pm
Harriet

Atheism I believe is a mental disorder.

Atheists pay good money to go to conferances, buy books and cd’s etc about something they don’t actually believe exists!

Who else would go to the shops to purchase nothing – and actually ask for it? 😎

Also, Atheists don’t believe in God, yet they say endlessly “I don’t believe in God” – going by that, I’d have to say that God probably does exist.
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November 11, 2012 6:10pm
graham

Has ANYBODY who has asked Penny a question ever had a reply from her – considered or not?

Nah, didn’t think so. So why the hell should she expect anybody to answer her questions? Answer – she shouldn’t.

You demand transparency from others, Penny – you start by exhibiting some yourself.
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November 11, 2012 6:12pm
Griff

Alas kea I to suffer from that malady of advancing age speed bumps up the arse
Hence as I have not previously partaken in anal penetration I am now in the unfortunate position that it is no longer a viable option and its supposed delights will never be mine to experience. If you so experemint feel free to advise us of the result.
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November 11, 2012 6:12pm
nasska

Griff

You haven’t been caught up in this have you? 🙂

Ref: http://imgur.com/gallery/79ucb
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November 11, 2012 6:14pm
Griff

Not yet
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November 11, 2012 6:15pm
Kea

Harriet……. read Richard Dawkins book, The God Delusion.

He will explain things.

You won’t have to change your mind, but at least you will know where the other side stands.
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November 11, 2012 6:19pm
Fletch

“Islam spread wider via trading than via warfare”

Not sure about that. They spread a whole lot via warfare.

Read Jihad in the West: Muslim Conquests from the 7th to the 21st Centuries by Paul Fregosi.
I am reading it at the moment, and it proves that Islam was not the passive religion that is sometimes portrayed, but that they were constantly invading since the time of Mohammad.

Jihad, the Muslim holy war against Christians and others, has raged for 1300 years with bloody conquests in Europe dating from campaigns to convert the infidels in the 7th century to today’s random acts of terrorism in the name of Allah.

Yet this huge unrecorded ‘hole’ in European history has been censored and stifled by political and literary authorities who have feared reprisals from angry Muslims trying to hide a legacy of brutality vastly more bloody and six times longer in duration than the atrocities of the crusades.

This is the engrossing factual account of the immense and little-known Islamic military invasions of Europe, and the major players who led them, beginning around 650CE. The Islamic Arabs (and later the Moors) occupied a number of the Mediterranean Islands, and invaded Spain and Portugal in 711CE, and ruled over much of the Iberian peninsula for the next 800 years.

France was attacked and invaded, as was Italy, and the European coasts all the way to Ireland and Iceland. The Muslims swept over the Balkans, besieged Vienna, and were intermittent masters of Greece, Bulgaria, Romania, and Hungary into the 19th century, destroying the Byzantines, taking Constantinople (turning it into Istanbul). Ambitious and unrelenting, the Muslims also sought to conquer Austria, and Russia.

In a bright and brisk narrative, Paul Fregosi’s unique and provocative work is the first, and only, general history of the Jihad, the most neglected and disregarded phenomenon in European history.

Well worth the read for your education, and the Kindle version is only US$10.39
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November 11, 2012 6:23pm
nasska

Harriet

Outside of Kiwiblog & the religious fruitloops it attracts I can’t think of the last time my atheism came up for discussion by anyone including myself.

It’s you moonbats trying to control others’ behaviour that brings up the subject of belief or non belief every time. Now if you’d take your scriptures & find a nice quiet cupboard to study them in we’ll get on with the important things like sex, drugs & rock ‘n roll. 🙂
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November 11, 2012 6:25pm
Rufus

Kea – Richard Dawkins – really? LOL

Read “The Dawkins Delusion” and see what a lightweight Dicky is.

Try reading “The Irrational Atheist” – should be able to get it as free download at Day’s “Vox Popoli” blog.
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November 11, 2012 6:27pm
Kea

Fletch, don’t encourage him to read some history, we will have nothing left to debate.

Its just enough for him to know that: white = evil.
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November 11, 2012 6:27pm
Fletch

Rufus, also interesting (although I don’t agree with every single thing he says), is The Rage Against God: How Atheism Led Me to Faith, by Peter Hitchens – who is Christopher Hitchens brother.
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November 11, 2012 6:42pm
Monique Watson

Oh God, I’ve been trying to catch up on the thread.
I’m now slightly nauseous and unsure whether to go for colonisation penitence (which sounds like sticking something up my arse to crecolonise my bowel); sodomy of another variety; chocolate, cheese, grilled cheese, booze, drugs or fucking a member of another species such as my husband.
(He’s male, I’m female, may as well be two different species).
Griff are you still putting up those links that tell us nothing more than a public servant will always back the view of another public servant?
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November 11, 2012 6:46pm
nasska

Variety is the spice of life Monique. Harriet is just consoling him(her)self with the thought that the loveless Saturday nights between him/her & the grave are now one fewer. 🙂
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November 11, 2012 6:53pm
Harriet

Rufus & Nasska & Kea #

“….People need religion. It’s a vehicle for a moral tradition. A crucial role. Nothing can take its place….” – Irving Kristol

He explained it better elsewhere but I can’t find it, so here is what he said from memory –

“….Science and religion are two entirely differant matters. In science you start with a hypthesis and search for evidence to support that hypthesis.
On the other hand, Religon is a belief, and you believe that you will be better off with it, as it helps support you through life’s certainties and uncertainties.It is based on morals.
And that is why we teach our children to pray instead of searching for facts to support God’s existance….”
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November 11, 2012 6:55pm
mikenmild

Hey, don’t knock the public servants, Monique – they are the backbone of this great little country.
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November 11, 2012 6:56pm
RightNow

Are they? Even the ones at GCSB, ACC and WINZ? Good to hear.
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November 11, 2012 6:57pm
RightNow

“In any case it’s practical….Friday’s centrefold darling is Monday’s chops”

Brings new meaning to self-saucing.
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November 11, 2012 7:00pm
Griff

??????
I try to vary my links

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNMq8XS4LhE&feature=related
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November 11, 2012 7:01pm
Harriet

Nasska #

“….Variety is the spice of life Monique.Harriet is just consoling him(her)self with the thought that the loveless Saturday nights between him/her & the grave are now one fewer….’

Which reminds me of last nights joke –

Once upon a time there was a schoolboy who went by the name of Sindafella, and he was soon going to attend his first formal school ball. He lived with his mum and he was gay.

On the day of the school ball he approached his mum and said “Mum, I don’t have anything to wear.” His mum being the mum she was, threw some star dust in the air and POOF – Sindafella was spontanously dressed in a pair of electric blue rhinestone spangled underpants and a pair of red cordial coloured chapps. In his mouth was a flourescent green dummy.

Stuck in his arse was an orange coloured butt plug. As he was about to wave his mother good-bye she said “Enjoy your school ball Sindafella but remember, if you attempt to take out that butt plug or if you don’t return home by midnight, then it will turn into a 3kg pumpkin.” Sindafella acknowledged the advice, waved his mother good-bye, and minced off to the ball.

Midnight came and went, the hands of the clock went through 2am, then 4am, and at 6am in marched Sindafella. His mother being concerned said “Sindafella I am beside myself, are you O.K?” He replied “Yes mum I couldn’t be happier, I have meet a lovely male friend.”

Anyway Nasska, that is the original story of Cinderella and how nursery rhymes came to include peter peter pumpkin eater.
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November 11, 2012 7:02pm
nasska

Harriet @ 6.55pm

Crap! Mankind needs religion in the same way we need a third testicle each. In your own words it is a belief, nothing more. It is personal to you & may act as a little ray of sunshine that brings a smidgeon of joy to your otherwise dismal, unhappy & wretched life.

Happily, other than you forcing it down the throats of your unfortunate loin fruit it is not transferable & rarely contagious. 🙂
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November 11, 2012 7:03pm
mikenmild

‘Tis the opiate of the people, after all.
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November 11, 2012 7:11pm
bhudson

@mikey,

No it’s been superseded. It’s now welfare that is the opiate of the masses.

Just look at WFF and taxpayer-subsidised-interest student loans
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November 11, 2012 7:15pm
Viking2

Moving from the inane and pointless of the day.
Here’s and idea for NZ Inc. which IMHO is right on the mark.

Every story has a name – except the one which describes our agriculture.
This, I argue, is one of the reasons we struggle to tell people around the world and in our cities about what exactly is and has been the basis of our farming’s comparative advantage for the past 130 years.

No one has an argument about the idea of German engineering excellence, or Italian design flair or a Japanese minimalist Zen aesthetic.
However, we, NZ Inc, haven’t even managed such a generic name

http://www.interest.co.nz/rural-news/61968/peter-kerr-worries-our-wonderful-products-
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November 11, 2012 7:20pm
Harriet

“….If you have standards, moral standards, you have to want to make them prevail, and at the very least you have to argue in their favor. Now, show me where libertarians have argued in some comprehensive way for a set of moral standards. … I don’t think morality can be decided on the private level. I think you need public guidance and public support for a moral consensus. The average person has to know instinctively, without thinking too much about it, how he should raise his children….: – Irving Kristol.
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November 11, 2012 7:20pm
mikenmild

bhudson
Don’t look at me to agree that expanding middle-class welfare and sending too many people to university were good ideas. But compared to religion, they are relatively rational approaches to improving our lot…
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November 11, 2012 7:27pm
Steve (North Shore)

“Hey, don’t knock the public servants, Monique – they are the backbone of this great little country.”
Right Mike. We should just all join the public service. Unemployment solved.
And you don’t really pay any TAX, it is just numbers going in circles. Fuck, why didn’t I think of this? I could be the President of NZ
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November 11, 2012 7:29pm
nasska

The priest felt it was important for him to warn his congregation about the dangers of cults and sects.
As part of his sermon he said:

“These new ‘religions’ are just a pack of weird rituals and chants designed to take away the money of fools!
Now let us repeat the Lord’s Prayer, but first let’s pass the collection plate!”
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November 11, 2012 7:29pm
bhudson

@mikey,

If it enriches their lives (spiritually at least) it is arguably a rational decision
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November 11, 2012 7:35pm
nasska

George Carlin put it rather well:

….”I love and treasure individuals as I meet them; I loathe and despise the groups they identify with and belong to.”…..
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November 11, 2012 7:37pm
mikenmild

I tend to agree. While it could be rational to hold irrational beliefs; it might be better to say that there can be a rational explanation for irrational beliefs.
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November 11, 2012 7:44pm
RightNow

I suspect many are just in it for the friends and sing-a-longs. Prayer seems to be a valid form of meditation too.
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November 11, 2012 7:46pm
kowtow

mikekmold @ 711 doing what he does best…..regurgitating Karl Marx

and nasska showing his ignorance…..as usual. The plate does not get passed at that point. more made up anti Christian shite pulled off an internet search.
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November 11, 2012 7:54pm
nasska

Did you know there’s an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire & smoke and burning & torture & anguish, where he will send you to live & suffer and burn & choke & scream & cry forever & ever ’til the end of time!

But he loves you!
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November 11, 2012 8:03pm
Steve (North Shore)

Bullshit nasska, I will suffer and burn & choke & scream & cry forever & ever ’til the end of time, but no sky fairy helps me.
I just help myself and get on with it
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November 11, 2012 8:13pm
Steve (North Shore)

Big Boys Toys was good for dreaming. Did you see the size of that snooker table (6 x 3M)? and the players can’t play for shit!
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November 11, 2012 8:15pm
nasska

I know Steve but I’m a kindly soul & I like to bring them down to earth gently. Having a reasoned, intelligent debate about religion with a religious person is a lot like having a reasoned, intelligent debate with a child about unicorns.
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November 11, 2012 8:17pm
Nostalgia-NZ

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/15353847/maori-welcome-for-british-royals-in-new-zealand/

PM out of step or just being expressive about the wearing of the Anzac poppy?
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November 11, 2012 8:26pm
Steve (North Shore)

nasska, maybe you could convince luc to take his/her medication then.
That won’t help us here but it may help luc
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November 11, 2012 8:27pm
nasska

I’d love to help Steve but I doubt that it is even within the powers of the One that the Godbotherers pester. Fortunately SWMBO will catch him on the computer sooner or later & administer severe punishment but until then the ravings will continue. 🙂
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November 11, 2012 8:35pm
RightNow

Nostalgia – it’s more sinister than that, he was photo-shopped into the picture.
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November 11, 2012 8:38pm
Pauleastbay

Van der Merwe had never been out of South Africa. While on holiday in
Australia he decided to spend an afternoon visiting Bondi Beach.

As he sat on the beach looking out to sea he saw a long line of black
dots out in the water and said to an Aussie, who was sitting close by,
“What are all those little black things out there?”

“They’re buoys,” said the Aussie.

“Boys?!” replied Van der Merwe.”What are they doing out there?”

“Holding up the shark net,” the Aussie told him.

“Fuckin great country!” said Van der Merwe, deeply impressed,
“We’d never get away with that at home!
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November 11, 2012 8:50pm
Viking2

I was listening to the radio this morning when the host invited callers to
reveal the nick-names they had for their wives.

The best call was from a brave chap who called his wife “Harvey Norman”

The Host asked him why that name?

He replied, “Absolutely no interest for 36 months.”
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November 11, 2012 8:59pm
nasska

More than anything, Bob wanted to be a cowpoke.
Taking pity on him, a rancher decided to hire the lad
and give him a chance.

“This,” he said, showing him a rope, “is a lariat.
We use it to catch cows.”

“I see,” said Bob, trying to seem knowledgeable
as he examined the lariat.
“And what do you use for bait?”
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November 11, 2012 8:59pm
Viking2

Elton & David’s’ Baby – Elegance & Splendor Extraordinaire ! ! !
cid:X.MA1.1352041790@aol.com
They had their sperm mixed together and a surrogate mother was artificially inseminated.

When the baby was born Elton and David were ushered into a ward where a dozen babies were lying in their cots, eleven of them crying and screaming.

In the corner, one baby was lying serenely. A nurse came over to both of them and indicated that the happy child was theirs.

“Isn’t it wonderful?” Elton asked David. “All these crying babies…and yet our baby is so content. This just proves the superiority of gay love!

“The nurse said, “Oh sure, he’s happy now, but just watch what happens when I pull the pacifier out of his ass….”
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November 11, 2012 9:00pm
Griff

A man sees a boy with a box of kittens The man goes over and says “Oh what cute kittens!” The boy replies “Yes they are Christian kittens”. About a week later the man sees the boy again with the same batch of kittens. Once again he walks over and says “my, those are just adorable!” The boy replies “Yes, they are atheist kittens” The man asks “wait, weren’t they christian before?” The boy looks at the man and says “Yeah but they have their eyes open now”
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November 11, 2012 9:00pm
Viking2

http://www.youtube.com/embed/Cd6C1vIyQ3w
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November 11, 2012 9:03pm
Viking2

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=wq_lhlIn1e0
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November 11, 2012 9:06pm
nasska

The ambassador of a small African nation chanced to visit Russia, and was entertained by his opposite number, the Russian ambassador. For three days, the African ambassador was wined, dined, and generally treated to the best hospitality that Russia had to offer. On the final day of his visit, the Russian ambassador said, “As your stay is coming to an end, it is time for you to play our traditional game, Russian roulette. One of the six chambers of this gun is loaded – you spin the cylinder, point the gun at your head, and pull the trigger.” This fazed the African slightly, but he was a proud man of a warrior people, and to show fear would be unthinkable. Both men took their guns, spun, and pulled the triggers.

Both chambers were empty, and both ambassadors breathed a sigh of relief. The African ambassador was much impressed with the courageous game, and thought hard about the subject before the Russian Ambassador was due to visit his country the next year.

When the visit came, the African ambassador treated the Russian with all hospitality, until the final day of his stay. Leading him to a private room in the palace, the African ambassador spoke “Now it is time for you to sample our game, African roulette”.

So saying, he led the Russian into the room, the only occupants of which were six beautiful, naked women. The African ambassador said, “These women are the most beautiful members of one of our tribes. Any one of them will give you oral sex – take your pick”. The Russian was not entirely averse to this idea, but he couldn’t see the connection with Russian Roulette. He said, “Well, ok, great, but where’s the roulette part? Where’s the danger?” With a big grin on his face, the African ambassador answered “One of them is a cannibal.”
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November 11, 2012 9:08pm
Shunda barunda

Another Sunday bites the dust.

Flammin work tomorrow, gotta meet a reporter and get my ugly mug in the local rag, I’m thinking of pulling a face.
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November 11, 2012 10:21pm
Manolo

Nothing to do with race, of course: http://articles.philly.com/2012-11-09/news/34995157_1_voter-turnout-president-obama-gop-voters
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November 11, 2012 10:29pm
kowtow

griff could take a lesson from his kittens and open his eyes to the global warming scam……..nah don’t think so.
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November 11, 2012 10:42pm
Manolo

Questions abound: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2231203/Barack-Obama-David-Petraeus-Was-relationship-discovered-FBI-months-ago-hushed-election.html
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November 12, 2012 6:18am
Griff

Kow tow Do you you get your science from the denial net work who lie? I will repost this for you
Griff (3,394) Says:
November 10th, 2012 at 8:27 pm

You do not see that the hundreds of geeks laboring away at scientific endeavor They are not political they are not the ones pushing the lefts take on the remaedy The true scientist have answered all the question posed by the denial network guys like Kristy and Watts just can not make a dent in the actual science instead you get lies

This is an example
As some one had a brain fart above and posted this story Report: Global warming stopped 16 years ago http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/10/13/report-global-warming-stopped-16-years-ago/

Which is just this opinion piece: Global warming stopped 16 years ago, reveals Met Office report quietly released… and here is the chart to prove it

: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2217286/Global-warming-stopped-16-years-ago-reveals-Met-Office-report-quietly-released–chart-prove-it.html#ixzz2Bnh7bQpn

Classic propaganda; They are all horrible bourgeois Left-wing academics the scientist
“the high-flown theories of bourgeois Left-wing academics will not override the interests of ordinary people who need fuel for heat, light and transport”

So did any of you reach the standard of actually checking for the so called report? Id expect a kid of fourteen to manage that’ Of we go and Google met service and open a web site here http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2012/10/14/met-office-in-the-media-14-october-2012/

Met Office in the Media: 14 October 2012
14102012
“An article by David Rose appears today in the Mail on Sunday under the title: ‘Global warming stopped 16 years ago, reveals Met Office report quietly released… and here is the chart to prove it’”
“It is the second article Mr Rose has written which contains some misleading information, after he wrote an article earlier this year on the same theme – you see our response to that one here.” http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2012/01/29/met-office-in-the-media-29-january-2012/

To address some of the points in the article published today:
Firstly, the Met Office has not issued a report on this issue. We can only assume the article is referring to the completion of work to update the HadCRUT4 global temperature dataset compiled by ourselves and the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit.”
We announced that this work was going on in March and it was finished this week. You can see the HadCRUT4 website here.
Secondly, Mr Rose says the Met Office made no comment about its decadal climate predictions. This is because he did not ask us to make a comment about them.”

So we then find that the dick was actually telling bullshit in his science stories there was no report and temperature are rising
That may be a small lie however we have caught him do it twice

Would you trust

1 This dick to give you honest science?
2 Any website that published a lie like this however small to give you unbiased science?

If you do you get a d- in this lesson for Critical thinking and the net .101

Here is a real report from real climate journalist not right wing conservos http://minnesota.publicradio.org/collections/special/columns/updraft/archive/2012/10/british_met_office_refutes_mis.shtml

“It’s sad and even dangerous that we live in an era where you have to vet news outlets and determine if they report science from a predisposed political bias. The Daily Mail piece is not peer reviewed science. It’s one guy trying to create smoke where there’s no fire.”
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