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October 20, 2012 8:00am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 20 October 2012

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Johnboy

Oh that’s a bit unfair Kea. I was just getting into the lack of airplane debris around the Pentagon theory not to mention the lightpoles! 🙂
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October 20, 2012 11:23pm
Reid

BTW, re: the Pentagon, isn’t it an amazing coincidence that the plane did a tight descending loop and hit the very office containing the people who were tasked to investigate the missing trillion $ that the Comptroller of the Pentagon, one Dov Zackheim, announced was somehow missing from the budget, on 10th September 2001? Isn’t that just amazing? I mean, who’da thunk the day after he announced that utter major incredible scandal, a “terrorist” would not only take out the Pentagon, but it would take out the very office containing the investigators. I mean, wow. Talk about lucky, right? Another amazing coincidence, this guy Dov, used to be CEO of a company called Systems Planning Corp that guess what? Made remote control systems for controlling aircraft in the event they were hijacked and could thereby land them safely. Isn’t that amazing?
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October 20, 2012 11:24pm
Johnboy

Course there should have been wing bits where the lightpoles got sheared guess your boring aerodynamics/physics/science can explain that away. Not to mention the position of the sheared off lightpoles, boring science/aerodynamics/physics can explain it all I guess. 🙂
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October 20, 2012 11:29pm
Reid

But it’s all coincidence and doesn’t mean anything, because if there was anything in it, then Popular Mechanics or Scientific American would have looked right into it and told the whole and real truth already, so relax, move on, nothing to see here, thinking otherwise would be utterly mental and will probably result in your name appearing on a no fly list, somewhere.

What amazes me Johnboy is no landing gear, no engines, you know, the heavy stuff. And no bodies and luggage and stuff. Maybe they just vanished because the military wanted to keep it tidy.
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October 20, 2012 11:30pm
bhudson

Kea,

Actually I didn’t state that the Holocaust was 6m. I responded to a comment by Reid that was itself linked back to a comment you had made that 3m Jews had died.
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October 20, 2012 11:32pm
Johnboy

Kea knows best in these matters Reid. After all he is an aviator by name at least. 🙂
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October 20, 2012 11:32pm
bhudson

Kea,

Actually I didn’t state that the Holocaust was 6m. I responded to a comment by Reid that was itself linked back to a comment you had made that 3m Jews had died.

When you subsequently called for the number of non-Jewish deaths attributable to the Holocaust, I shared the estimate I had found and noted that the range (11m-17m) depended on what criteria applied for deaths to be counted as part of the Holocaust. [which does not undermine the value of any life taken which is not counted in the Holocaust.]
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October 20, 2012 11:35pm
Johnboy

Explaining is losing bhudson. Specially if you feel you have to explain to Kea! 🙂
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October 20, 2012 11:37pm
Reid

After all he is an aviator by name at least.

I got a flight sim computer game from a mate once, but I couldn’t do a descending turn and fly into the Pentagon straight after completing the Cessna training program, so I gave up in disgust. I guess if I was a Muslim with Allah on my side Johnboy, I might have been more motivated and Allah would have made all those complicated dials and knobs on the instrument panel completely and utterly transparent, which I suppose is what people like Kea and bhudson think happened, because nothing much else really explains it, does it.
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October 20, 2012 11:42pm
Kevin

Honestly Reid you pretend you are intelligent and have seen through the matrix only to shoot yourself in the foot promoting ludicrous conspiracy theories about 911. Not a single scientific study,has found evidence for,any of the theories. Of course in your case we know what will be the conclusion, … Wait for it…..

It’s as pitiful as area 51 and no moon landing scams.
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October 20, 2012 11:51pm
Johnboy

Fuck I used to fly real Cessna’s Reid and it was bloody hard to control them near to the ground. Piper’s were worse cause the wings were that much closer to the earth and that was at 50 knots.

Kea, being an aviator himself knows better of course and by the will of Allah would have no trouble at all at piloting a 757, after a couple of hours practice, at 300 knot’s 3 or 4 metre’s off the ground and into the side of a building.

I’ve flown at 100kt at 100ft (illegally) and it goes past fucking quick, one hiccup and your history. Kea knows best though! 🙂
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October 20, 2012 11:56pm
bhudson

And another one…

Leaping Jimmy (11,900) Says:
April 20th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Zapper, in my view the 2.3 trillion was just an opportunistic tack-on to the operation. They knew 911 was coming up, they knew that money was missing months before they announced it.

And yet Reid tries to maintain that he hasn’t said the US govt had a hand in the events on 911.
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October 20, 2012 11:59pm
Kevin

The 2.3 trillion was missing to fund ongoing research at Area 51 so them thar aliens hacked the 757s computers and flew it into the pentagon at exactly 1.012345 m being exactly the golden 2 Egyptian cubits or 2.5 time the old Mesopotamian cubits which advanced intergalactic civilisations know will overcome any ground effect as long as you are flying at a,speed of pi times the circumference of the great pyramid of gieser.
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October 21, 2012 12:08am
Reid

Honestly Reid you pretend you are intelligent and have seen through the matrix only to shoot yourself in the foot promoting ludicrous conspiracy theories about 911.

Kevin if I AM intelligent and I DO see through the matrix then I’d be pretty fucking useless if I thought 911 was kosher, wouldn’t I. I mean, if 911 isn’t matrix territory then what is?

And yet Reid tries to maintain that he hasn’t said the US govt had a hand in the events on 911.

Keep grasping at straws bhudson (and Kevin). I said they knew it was coming up. Just like Roosevelt knew Pearl Harbour was coming up. Hey, BTW, either of you. Got any comment on that missing 2.3 trillion? Does that mean anything at all to you? Or does it hurt your tummy if you start thinking about it? It’s just I’d be interested to hear either of you seriously attempt to explain it, that’s all. Reasonable question, isn’t it?
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October 21, 2012 12:13am
Kea

Johnboy, the experts in these matters say it is possible. That matches with what eye witnesses saw on the day.

What have you got to support your theory?
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October 21, 2012 12:14am
Kevin

Omfg not that old pearl harbour scam.
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October 21, 2012 12:19am
Reid

No Kev it’s the 2.3 missing trillion scam. Try not to obfuscate won’t you. We’ll get to Pearl Harbour later, after you or bhudson attempt to explain away the missing 2.3 trillion. Go ahead.
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October 21, 2012 12:22am
bhudson

Reid,

It was well addressed for you at the time. You just didn’t like the argument because it rebutted yours:

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/04/a_911_truther_right_here.html#comment-958170

Of course you had already transcended to the ridiculous by then, demanding that anyone and everyone give you concrete evidence to adequately explain away the money, while having said about your own position:

Of course I have no proof. Of course I don’t. OTOH, you guys have no proof that it wasn’t like that either, do you.

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/04/a_911_truther_right_here.html#comment-958071

It would appear that Fran Mold had been reading that thread as 6 months later David Shearer used the remarkably similar: no I haven’t got the video. And I can’t prove there was one. But it is up to the PM to prove there wasn’t one.
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October 21, 2012 12:36am
Reid

Unfortunately bhudson, tom never did answer that, did he. He obfuscated, but he didn’t address it. As you haven’t, either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=y7ywpfOOn7k
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October 21, 2012 12:52am
bhudson

No, Reid, he nailed it. And you.
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