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September 30, 2012 8:00am by Kokila Patel

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Johnboy

262 bereal. Helped by 77 in English.

No.

Snots Porridge.

Went surfing at Lyall/Houghton bay every double maths period on Wednesday mornings.

Helps explain result of 3! 🙂
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September 30, 2012 7:38pm
Pete George

For anyone who’s watching the Anna Guy interview there are more details in a blog by the producer, Phill Prendeville:
http://www.tv3.co.nz/Shows/60Minutes/ShowExtras.aspx
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September 30, 2012 7:50pm
bereal

Just reminiscing, at Cashmere there was a prick of a prefect called Gary Gotlieb
who went on to rise to his level of incompetance at the Auckland Disrict Law Soc.

That prick caught us playing twoup for pennies on Anzac Day and reported it to the headmaster.

i got 6 from T H McCombs for that.

i hope that piece of shit Gotlieb can live with himself.
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September 30, 2012 7:54pm
Fletch

So the yanks are still banning stuff. They are not the country of the Free are they?

According to a comment made by a female reader on the Ulsterman blog who works with troubled and abused children, 50 Shades Of Grey may actually be a thinly veiled story of paedophilia where the older man is a Jerry Sandusky type of abuser.

Although in the book, the woman’s age is given as 21, the readers contend that this is a thin cover and the signs point to a much younger aged protagonist.

Now I know after saying that, many female fans of 50 Shades, many of them mothers, will naturally put up a defense against that kind of description. These women, being mothers, are naturally wired to protect kids. People like Jerry Sandusky are viewed with hatred, revulsion, and disgust. Rightfully so. What mother would want to condone anything having to do with the sexual abuse of children? Of innocents?

[…]

My professional experience centers around nearly 20 years with Child Protective Services. Over that time, I’ve seen situations that do, literally, keep me up at night. The amount of abuse that is going on in our society, that sexualization of our kids…well basically, what you hear about, what is reported in the news, that is only a small sample of just how large of a problem and the disgusting acts that are going on every day. Kids are being raped. Kids are being abused. Every single day. Over and over and over again.

I didn’t seek out 50 Shades of Grey. It was brought to my attention by a longtime friend who is also a clinical psychologist at a university. She’s a bit older than me. She grew up in the counter culture era and did her fair share of experimentation of all kinds. So she’s hardly a prude. What she today though is a mother and grandmother. And she’s smart. One of the things that fascinates her is this age of cultural phenomena. How due to technology things now spread so quickly throughout society and become the next big thing at an increasingly rapid pace. She says sometimes this phenomena is pretty much harmless, and other times it can be very damaging to kids and or adults who begin to emulate something out of a need to belong to the “next big thing”.

Her reaction to 50 Shades of Grey though was much more aggressively negative than anything I could recall her talking about before. It came up because I mentioned it to her offhand. I had seen a couple mentions of it on the news and knowing her interest in cultural trends, asked her about it. She stopped talking, looked right at me, and said the book was about pedophilia. And it was her who then connected it to the Sandusky tragedy where so many young boys had been sexually abused. Sandusky committed his acts of crime under the cover of actually helping youth. That is how he gained access. My friend said 50 Shades was basically the same exact thing. Its cover was a story of a young woman engaging is a very graphic sexual relationship with a somewhat older man.

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We are reading child pornography. Remove the false age of the girl, which has no basis in reality, and what we are actually reading is the abuse of a little girl.

The main character is described in pigtails, given words like “Holy Cow” “down there”, “jeez” “double crap” she can’t operate a computer (but is supposedly a college graduate), describes skipping and doing cartwheels, repeatedly says she is made to feel like a child, has her imaginary friend (inner goddess) feels shame, is spanked and slathered in BABY OIL, told what to say, what to eat, what to do, until finally and sadly so predictably, is physically beaten. (But she returns to him soon after, which is again, a very common theme of abuse, including pedophilia)

And beyond all of this evidence there is the fact that the male character is himself a product of sexual abuse at the hands of a pedophile. The girl whose thoughts we listen in on as she is being abused, recognizes this aspect of the male abuser, but apparently, is too naïve or unwilling to realize she has continued this cycle of abuse herself. (Which again reinforces the idea that she is actually herself just a child) There is no way the author did this by accident. She puts out the theme of pedophilia openly, therefore hiding it in plain sight.

I’m all for free speech as well, and I’m not sure about a ban, but I think people should know what the book might really be about.
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September 30, 2012 7:58pm
Johnboy

Lawyers can live in a sealed dustbin with a corpse and a bucket of rotten fish if they think there is a buck in it bereal! 🙂
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September 30, 2012 7:58pm
nasska

Yesterday I visited a clan of native, wild, black tribal members in their habitat.

I had to push my way past the uncivilized group as they sloppily munched into their food, and looked at me to remind me that I truly was an outsider.

As I approached their leader, he stared into my soul through my eyes and simply asked,

“Welcome to KFC. May I take your order?”
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September 30, 2012 8:00pm
Fletch

Sorry, forgot the links –

http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/08/16/50-shades-of-grey-pedophilia-hiding-in-plain-sight-letter-from-a-reader/

http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/08/18/fifty-shades-pedophilia-abuse-controversy-revisited/
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September 30, 2012 8:02pm
Griff

Read the bible fletch its got sex sodomy smiting and infanticide
If any book should be banned the bible should be
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September 30, 2012 8:02pm
Johnboy

You paid a visit to the new one on the High Street Lower Hutt then nasska?

Vast improvement on the Naenae one.

Hard to tell if you were a customer or part of the menu there! 🙂
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September 30, 2012 8:04pm
nasska

Fletch

….”I’m all for free speech as well, and I’m not sure about a ban,”…..

I reckon you can have free speech or bans but having both seems a trifle ambivalent.
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September 30, 2012 8:06pm
Johnboy

Free speech followed by demerits seems to do it for some eh DPF. 🙂
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September 30, 2012 8:08pm
Fletch

Read the bible fletch its got sex sodomy smiting and infanticide
If any book should be banned the bible should be

Griff, it’s history though.
I’m sure other historical accounts (of Rome etc) have similar stories of sex, slaughter, abuse, torture of Christians, etc.
Should they be banned as well?
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September 30, 2012 8:09pm
nasska

Johnboy

If I never walk into another KFC I’ll still die a happy man. They’re places you find unhealthy crap, not to mention that everything’s fat, cheap & greasy.

That’s just the customers…..the food’s bloody awful too. 🙂
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September 30, 2012 8:10pm
Yvette

First the janitor at ACC, then lawyers already –
did you get out of the wrong side of the paddock this morning, Johnboy, or an hour too early? 🙂
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September 30, 2012 8:10pm
Johnboy

Heure d’été toujours causes bouleverse la ferme Yvette. A mans fantaisie tour à tour aux rêves d’amour non partagé avec la Mademoiselle de ses rêves et ses tâches domestiques restent annulées pendant qu’il attend son retour. 🙂
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September 30, 2012 8:20pm
Johnboy

True nasska. You get a far better class of customer at either Macca’s or BK’s drive thru! 🙂
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September 30, 2012 8:25pm
Tauhei Notts

Nasska,
It would be about 40 – 41 years ago. I queued for 40 minutes to get a feed of Kentucky Fried Chicken from their Royal Oak outlet (the first in N.Z.). I loved it.
Then they changed the name to KFC and it has been excrement ever since. Well, it was eight months ago when I last tried it at Huntly.
Wattie foods were involved with KFC when they first opened in the early seventies. I recall the wonderful comment of the rotund Sir James Wattie, made at their opening when he said;
“There is nothing so pathetic as a thin man selling food.”
I had been introduced to Sir James when he visited our home in the mid sixties. I am from a big family. Sir James wanted to swap his Bentley for a Messmate colt, who was later named Marine. At that stage Dad had more mortgages than he had children; I want the cash he replied. Anyway, the Bentley wouldn’t fit in the garage.
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September 30, 2012 8:29pm
Johnboy

I remember getting a burger from Macca’s in Porirua about 197….?
Tasted like shit compared to the local burgers.
Nothings changed.. still taste like shit! 🙂
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September 30, 2012 8:34pm
Viking2

Remember KFC (long version) opening in the Hutt Valley. Ques for africa. Now they can barely find a customer.
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September 30, 2012 8:38pm
Yvette

Johnboy, je pense toujours que vous étiez un peu injuste envers le concierge de l’ACC,
compte tenu de la pagaille qui ses Patrons réussissent à créer
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September 30, 2012 8:40pm
Viking2

Used to get bloody good burgers in Courtney Place. don’t reme ber the names of the place. Got even better when we started to supply the buns.

Egg burgers were the best.
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September 30, 2012 8:41pm
Johnboy

Wait till Michael gets his Carl’s Jr chain pumping grease down here. The ethnics will flock to it, specially if he hands out miniature greasy rugby balls. 🙂
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September 30, 2012 8:44pm
nasska

Tauhei

Strangely enough I met the same bloke when I was a young bugger. I would have been about seven & we were on holiday in Gisborne. My old man & he had been in the army together. Right at the peak of the season for the cannery then but he dropped everything & gave us a tour of the factory.

It was a long time ago but I still remember him as a really decent joker.
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September 30, 2012 8:48pm
Johnboy

Je suis d’accord Yvette mais il faut garder les classes laborieuses y placer.
Regardez ce qui s’est passé à la Bastille ?
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September 30, 2012 8:48pm
Johnboy

Was that burger joint in Courtney or was it by the Central Fire Station on Kent V2. Cause if it was he made mean burgers and was open all hours?
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September 30, 2012 8:51pm
Yvette

Ah, Johnboy, you mock the underclass again. Remember too then THE MISERABLES.
Bonne chance à l’Janitor ACC
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September 30, 2012 9:16pm
publicwatchdog

MORE DEFENCE OF THE INDEFENSIBLE?

Where is the accountability to the RULE OF LAW by those who have the duty to ENFORCE THE LAW?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/7748117/Police-stand-firm-behind-besieged-senior-officer

Penny Bright

‘Anti-corruption campaigner’

http://www.dodgyjohnhasgone.com
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September 30, 2012 9:24pm
Johnboy

How JK and Judith should have dealt with Roboto.com. 🙂

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f71VqFgwPy4&feature=related
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September 30, 2012 9:41pm
Yvette

Yeah, Penny – bit of a bummer. Like who can you lay a complaint with over that?

http://www.dodgyjohnhasn'tgonejustyet.commedy
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September 30, 2012 9:52pm
Reid

http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.nz/2012/08/where-is-your-mind.html

I often wonder how come the Islamaphobes still appear sentient it’s so obvious they’ve lost whatever it is they ever had. My theory is it’s all that clever puppetry from the western MSM which keeps them going, in the same way zombies are by those pins and dolls.
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September 30, 2012 9:56pm
Johnboy

Votre plus tard ce soir mon cher Yvette. 🙂
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September 30, 2012 9:57pm
Johnboy

Perhaps it is just that people fear the unknown reid and as most of us have never ridden a camel we fear and distrust their jockeys? 🙂
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September 30, 2012 10:01pm
Viking2

Longtime back. but along there somewhere. By the Fire station I think.
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September 30, 2012 10:02pm
Johnboy

Chap called John owned it. (All the best blokes I ever met are called John. 🙂 ).

He made bloody mean egg burgers alright.

Was always a must on Saturday night to get a sobering up feed there before the drunken drive back to Lower Hutt! 🙂
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September 30, 2012 10:09pm
Elaycee

Have you forgotten Pete & Bob’s opposite the entrance (High St) to the Hutt Hospital?

Now, they could make a good burger! 😀
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September 30, 2012 10:45pm
graham

Oh the irony.

Penny Bright – she who has STOLEN water, encouraged others to STEAL water, STOLEN electricity (as part of the Occupy movement), VANDALISED AND DEFACED the billboards of her opponents while standing for public office – wanting others to be held accountable to the rule of law.

And she makes statements like this while keeping a straight face!
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October 1, 2012 6:54am
Griff

SCUM
Vandalism to boats follows threats http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/7750191/Vandalism-to-boats-follows-threats
The vandalism is the latest in a series of incidents around the lake, stemming from about 2008, when squatters occupied the neighbouring Horowhenua Sailing Club as part of a dispute over lake ownership.
Mrs Mason said the rowing club had been harassed by “Maori activists trying to evict us” for years but she thought they had become more aggressive in the past few weeks.
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