General Debate 25 September 2012

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Keeping Stock

Another example of why Rod Emmerson is the best cartoonist in New Zealand by some distance…

http://keepingstock.blogspot.co.nz/2012/09/of-eels-spies-and-cartoonist-named.html

It’s put me off jellied eels for life though!
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September 25, 2012 8:03am
Pete George

Interesting blog reactions to the GCSB spying news yesterday. DPF was very quick off the mark. Graeme Edgeler took his time but it was worth waiting for a detailed legal view.

And The Standard was surprisingly slow and unsurprisingly cynical.

GCSB on blogs: slow Standard, cynical Bunji (Legal Eagle and Scoop are good).
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September 25, 2012 8:05am
tom hunter

So any moment now we’ll be seeing a thread titled “Obama and The Bump In The Road”?

That’s a reference to Obama’s extraordinarily stupid TV interview answer yesterday, in which he described the death of his Libyan ambassador and four other Americans from a planned terrorist attack, and the general meltdown in the ME, as a “bump in the road”.

Because I figure if you do want to report on “gaffes” that are representative of more deeply serious problems in a US Presidential candidate, I figure that one would be at the top of the list today.
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September 25, 2012 8:14am
hj

FROG wrote:
Expert: “Maori and Pacific Is children are (da-de-da-de-da…)” and by 2030 (?) they will make up 60% of the population (da-de-da-de-da…)” So stop having more children than you can afford?

@FROG wrote:
What an ignorant comment. Other OECD countries also have families with more kids than they can afford, and they deal with the situation better than NZ. The problem is with attitudes like yours that help no-one and just add to social divisions

Read more: http://www.3news.co.nz/Experts-lament-state-of-NZ-child-poverty/tabid/817/articleID/270416/Default.aspx#ixzz27Q9pzqy6

Typical Green, Mana, Maori Party view…… what about Labour?
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September 25, 2012 8:25am
Manolo

Let the numbers do the talking: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/romney-gave-1000-times-much-charity-year-biden-gave-decade_652977.html
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September 25, 2012 8:39am
hj

“The problem is with attitudes like yours that help no-one and just add to social divisions”
……
these people are not like us? they can’t be expected to be responsible; they are like children and we are their parents?
http://www.3news.co.nz/Experts-lament-state-of-NZ-child-poverty/tabid/817/articleID/270416/Default.aspx#ixzz27Q9pzqy6
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September 25, 2012 8:39am
meh

@hj – that was on campbell live last night (don’t normally watch the crap but the wife had it on). Every “expert” trotting out emotive statements and dubious facts to fit within the stories overall message – we (net taxpayers) must give more money.
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September 25, 2012 8:40am
hj

The bit that got me was: “Maori and Pacific Island children have [worst statistics]” “and by 20(something) they will make up 60% of the population” = we should act.
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September 25, 2012 9:00am
Manolo

It means the road to Thirld World status is clearly mapped out.
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September 25, 2012 9:03am
jaba

it’s both great and REALLY strange to see the Gweens support mining in Huntly and on the West Coast .. well done them and I assume they will be backing the Bathurst Company in future
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September 25, 2012 9:03am
graham

China has a great solution to the problem – it’s called the one-child policy.

But seriously, what is it with this current attitude that it is somehow a so-called “right” to have as many children as you want, and then expect somebody else to pick up the tab? I would love to own two new cars, should the taxpayer pick up the bill? Hell, I think they should. After all, I use my car to drive to work, thereby generating revenue and earning money to feed my family, and my wife uses her car to ferry our daughter around – as children are obviously so incredibly important that the taxpayer should pay for you to have them, then the taxpayer can damn well pay for my wife’s new car (with all the appropriate safety features, airbags, 5-star NCAP rating or course …) to ferry the daughter around.
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September 25, 2012 9:16am
Falafulu Fisi

hj, those experts on Cambell Live don’t seem to understand proper data analysis. They frequently quoted poverty line but it is a vague term that is open to manipulation because it is defined arbitrarily but not treated as an intrinsic property of the data itself (which it should be). They all quoted anecdotal evidence. I haven’t looked at the OECD studies, but I’m almost 100% sure that that data was analyzed using descriptive statistics (7th form high-school level statistics). Sure, some of the professors may have quoted proper studies, but those studies give the aggregates in the macro-level of what we see. They don’t give insights to how the interactions in the micro-level give rise to the effect we see in the macro. This is where advanced data-analytics can help here , which is something those experts have no clue about.
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September 25, 2012 9:24am
Redbaiter

WTF are people watching communist shit like Campbell live for?

Why give that POS oxygen?
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September 25, 2012 9:31am
dime

Dime was chatting to this trashy 21 yr old yesterday. she told me she is on a deadline and wants to have a child. because all of her friends are having them. i shit you not. this trashy chick left school at 17 and has never worked. has no intention to work.

But according to the left she is a saint and Dime needs to pay more tax.

In case anyone is wondering, Dime backed slowly away and made his exit.
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September 25, 2012 10:25am
emmess

They frequently quoted poverty line but it is a vague term that is open to manipulation because it is defined arbitrarily but not treated as an intrinsic property of the data itself (which it should be).

As I wrote yesterday, by the report’s definition, North Korea would have the lowest proportion of ‘hungry children’ in the world.
And I have to agree with Redbaiter, that if you accept that definition like John Campbell, that pretty much makes you a communist.
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September 25, 2012 10:25am
Manolo

The Iranian president is a madman and potential criminal. No coincidence he’s a Muslim, too.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Monday Israel has no roots in the Middle East and would be “eliminated,” ignoring a U.N. warning to avoid incendiary rhetoric ahead of the annual General Assembly session.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/24/us-un-assembly-ahmadinejad-idUSBRE88N0HF20120924
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September 25, 2012 10:59am
wtfunz

The good thing here is that everyone see’s though Campbell for the complete tosser that he is!
The sad thing is that everyone despises these slags having bastard children and expecting (and getting) the tax payer to fund them.
WTF is wrong with us? Why as a country do we allow this crap to go on? It has to be as simple as saying – no named father, who can support you and your baby, no state funding. Go home with your crap parents and see if they can act like a natural contraceptive out of the fear of having you and your increasing number of rug rats bludging of them for ever. Very simple.
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September 25, 2012 11:44am
Manolo

The masses cannot have their cake (lunch) and eat it too, says this modern marie Antoniette:
http://townhall.com/columnists/kyleolson/2012/09/23/complaints_mount_against_michelle_obamas_new_lunch_menu
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September 25, 2012 11:49am
Harriet

“….The Iranian president is a madman and potential criminal….”

I think Scott Chris is too!

He’s smarting off somewhere else here at KB about Israel’s PM.

HEY SCOTT CHRIS –

Why is Israel immune from any praise at all?

Your a dumbfuck like the rest of the Jew-haters! 😎
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September 25, 2012 1:30pm
Longknives

An even better alibi than a Paper-run!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2206873/Too-fat-murder-TLCs-Half-Ton-Killer-tells-shocking-tale-1-100lb-woman-confessed-killing-nephew–weight-proved-testimony-LIE.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
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September 25, 2012 2:03pm
hinamanu

Peak oil & the end of our industrial civilization with Max Keiser

this edition of the show Max interviews Mike Ruppert from collapsenet.com. He talks about the decline of the American empire at the end of the age of oil. Mike Ruppert is an American author, a former Los Angeles Police Department officer, and investigative journalist and peak oil advocate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFIyUI0rrUA
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September 25, 2012 2:10pm
tom hunter

In the ongoing annals of crap reporting it appears that several outlets in the USA – Politico, Associated Press, and even the WSJ, simply reprinted a press release from the Obama campaign. Here was how AP wrote it up – and others will have to tell me whether the ‘Huruld’ simply repeated this:

The crowd of about 18,000 in a steady drizzle was the largest yet of Obama’s reelection campaign. It was Obama’s first appearance in Wisconsin since February.

The only problem was that when a real reporter – Tom Blumer of NewsBusters – actually dug into the event he found that it could not possibly have catered 18,000 people because the arena where it was held only held 5000 seats. In addition there’s been no evidence of 13,000 people milling around outside waiting for a chance to faint or throw their panties on the stage.

I knew the Antique Media was in the tank for Obambi, but do they have to be this desperate in creating a ‘winning’ image?
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September 25, 2012 2:17pm
Griff

Family violence death toll revealed police report. http://www.police.govt.nz/sites/default/files/resources/family-violence-death-review-2004-2011.pdf
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September 25, 2012 2:22pm
Harriet

“…..Family violence death toll revealed police report….”

The elephant in the room is Marriage – it socialises children, especially the sons.

And that is why the amount of killings involving people who are STILL Married is extremely low.

The Police executive is too weak to request the strenghtening of the Marriage Act, but if they did so, it may well put the gold standarded stamp back on Marriage.

Those who attack Marriage via affairs etc should be vilified by all of society – including the police and courts.
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September 25, 2012 2:43pm
Manolo

I knew the Antique Media was in the tank for Obambi, but do they have to be this desperate in creating a ‘winning’ image?

The answer is Yes.

The MSM is boots and all for the Messiah, and will lie and falsify to the nth degree to get the incompetent reelected.
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September 25, 2012 2:45pm
eszett

@tom hunter

Stop the press, shock, horror, political campaign overstates the attandance.
You are really getting desperate, tom, if this is what really bothers you.
And, i wonder, will you also post about the bullshit that fox news spews about Romney?

Btw, here are some fotos for you of the event, in case you are interested.

http://www.gettyimages.com.au/detail/news-photo/president-barack-obama-speaks-to-supporters-during-a-news-photo/152588728

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251104051
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September 25, 2012 2:57pm
chiz

Looks like more than 5000 to me. The 5000 figure related to seats but the people are clearly standing and packed in more tightly than sitting people would be, so the 18000 figure could be correct.
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September 25, 2012 3:10pm
tom hunter

Pssst

eszett – my comment was focused on the media as stenographers not reporters, not the bullshitting of politicians. I just figure bias is the driver rather than laziness in questioning what’s handed out, but that’s a debatable point, as the WSJ demonstrates.

Glad to hear that the uselessness of our media is not a big deal to you. One less problem for you to worry about.

so the 18000 figure could be correct.

You think the fire safety rules would allow 13,000 people to squeeze into a space designed for 5000 seated? It’s the sort of question I’d have liked to see asked. Maybe it was raining outside, that’s been the reason before.
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September 25, 2012 3:32pm
Scott Chris

Your a dumbfuck like the rest of the Jew-haters!

Actually Harriet, it’s not ‘your’, it’s ‘you’re’.

And for the record, my top 5 people list of all time has 3 Jews in it.
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September 25, 2012 3:40pm
chiz

The space is used for a music festival – where people usually stand rather than sit. So, yes, I think the fire safety rules are probably not an issue.
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September 25, 2012 3:49pm
tom hunter

Now here’s a great example of a reporter asking solid questions of the Obama administration:

Hey Philippe:

A few quick questions for you. Why didn’t the State Department search the consulate and find AMB Steven’s diary first? What other potential valuable intelligence was left behind that could have been picked up by apparently anyone searching the grounds? Was any classified or top secret material also left? Do you still feel that there was adequate security at the compound, considering it was not only overrun but sensitive personal effects and possibly other intelligence remained out for anyone passing through to pick up? Your statement on CNN sounded pretty defensive–do you think it’s the media’s responsibility to help secure State Department assets overseas after they’ve been attacked?

Let me know if you have a second.Michael

That’s at the start of an email chain that ends as follows:

I now understand why the official investigation by the Department of the Defense as reported by The Army Times The Washington Post concluded beyond a doubt that you’re an unmitigated asshole.

How’s that for a non-bullshit response?

Now that we’ve gotten that out of our systems, have a good day.

And by good day, I mean Fuck Off

I can see why it might be preferable to stick to the Obama press releases.
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September 25, 2012 4:00pm
Manolo

And calls for Clinton to do the honourable thing and resign: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/09/24/it-time-for-hillary-clinton-to-resign/
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September 25, 2012 4:19pm
Longknives

Scott Chris- Albert Einstein, Bob Dylan and…umm Jesus?
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September 25, 2012 4:59pm
chiz

European court of Human rights rules that Abu Hamza and four other terror suspects can indeed be extradited from the UK to the US.
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September 25, 2012 5:05pm
Kevin

“Why as a country do we allow this crap to go on?”

Because you would cause massive unemployment in bureacracy, social services, health, education, police, courts and prisons.
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September 25, 2012 5:12pm
Redbaiter

“Because you would cause massive unemployment in bureacracy, social services, health, education, police, courts and prisons.”

..and those are only some of the costs that arise when a country has a society dominated by the ideas of Progressives.
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September 25, 2012 5:14pm
Reid

If this report exists, why shouldn’t it be released, now?

Sure it’d blow Romney’s campaign to smithereens but if it does, then he shouldn’t have done what the report alleges, should he.

It’s a paper entitled “Preparing For A Post Israel Middle East”, an 82-page analysis that concludes that the American national interest in fundamentally at odds with that of Zionist Israel. The authors conclude that Israel is currently the greatest threat to US national interests because its nature and actions prevent normal US relations with Arab and Muslim countries and, to a growing degree, the wider international community.

The study was commissioned by the US Intelligence Community comprising 16 American intelligence agencies with an annual budget in excess of $ 70 billion. The IC includes the Departments of the Navy, Army, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard, Defense Intelligence Agency, Departments of Energy, Homeland Security, State, Treasure, Drug Enforcement Agency, Federal Bureau of Investigation, National Security Agency, National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, National Reconnaissance Agency and the Central Intelligence Agency commissioned the study.

http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2012/08/28/us-preparing-for-a-post-israel-middle-east/

http://www.texemarrs.com/102012/sixteen_intelligence_agencies.htm

Mind that cognitive dissonance won’t you, all you Israel-firsters. You’d think given it’s written by all 16 US intelligence agencies you’d think that might give it some cred but I bet it doesn’t. Lots of weeping and wailing about but, but, but poor widdle Isweal is beset on all sides by a sea of implaccable hatred. Well how about the drop-dead obvious fact that if you for decades like a complete and utter prick, it’s hardly surprising various people are going to hate your guts, is it.
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September 25, 2012 5:55pm
Fletch

The 25th Anniversary edition of Michael Jackson’s Bad CD is about to be released, and it includes an unreleased pro-life song called Abortion Papers (Song Groove) that was recorded around that same time.

Check it out here – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPZFtzJP034

Sister don’t read, she’ll never know
What about love?
Living a Christian soul
What do we get, she runs away
What about love?
What about all I pray

Sister confused, she went alone
What about love?
What about all I saw?
Biding a life, reading the words
Singing a song, citing a Bible verse

Those abortion papers
Signed in your name against the words of God
Those abortion papers
Think about life, I’d like to have my child
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September 25, 2012 6:47pm
nasska

Reid

Bearing in mind that no less than sixteen American “intelligence” agencies (why would any organisation require their knowledge to be so dissipated) are involved in this revelation does it not seem obvious to you that most must be tainted by prior dealings with both parties?

Also, what sort of ME do you envisage would exist should ‘Dinnerjacket’s’ recent speech to the UN become prophetic? I hardly see Israel, with or without the USA backstabbing them, rolling over & playing dead. Three hundred nukes would make the largest sheet of glass ever created in the world & would be capable of putting a radioactive glow to every Muslim shithole from Libya through to Pakistan.

As an aside where do I start learning about the prophesies of Revelations via http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLCzmrf_YXo&feature=related Courtesy of the slowest broadband known to mankind (Telecom) I’m up to about the thirteen minute mark (plus an estimated two hours buffering). I now have considerable useful expertise in container shipping but it’s not quite what I was looking for. 🙂
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September 25, 2012 6:47pm
OneTrack

Reid at 5:55 – yeah those israelis. Utter bastards. They should be happy and more tolerant of he missiles being fired from Gaza and the suicide bombers that come through from Palestine and those friendly military adventures by their neighbours ie six day war. Why would they take is so seriously. They should loosen up, invite a few neighbours over for some beers,…..
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September 25, 2012 6:55pm
nasska

OneTrack

……& a bacon sandwich. 🙂
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September 25, 2012 6:58pm
Griff

To Red with luf xxx
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5h1kt0vdVWv_iaXBYVNflsthns2gw?docId=CNG.d26dae8671f83f3f52a2f6a399d773a4.3a1
Iran’s president says backing gays is for ‘capitalists’

WASHINGTON — Supporting homosexuality is the stuff of hardline capitalists who do not care about real human values, Iran’s president said.

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said in an interview on CNN that homosexuality is a “very ugly behavior” that he said was banned by “all prophets and all religions and all faiths.”
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September 25, 2012 7:14pm
Kevin

If the enemy of my enemy is my friend its time to get in touch with my gay side.

But what a quandry for the left…
Homocidal iranian…vs…gay capitalist.
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September 25, 2012 7:24pm
Yvette

homophoamicidal
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September 25, 2012 7:43pm
nasska

A farmer is helping his cow give birth when he sees his son sitting nearby, watching intently – and he thinks ‘Oh Shit, now I’m going to have to tell him all about the birds and the bees.’ The farmer eventually decides to be totally honest and answer all the questions his son presents him with.

After he’s done, he goes over to his son and asks, “Well, do you have any questions?”

His son replies “Just the one. How fast was that calf going when it hit the cow?”
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September 25, 2012 8:00pm
Yvette

Castrated men live longer http://www.stuff.co.nz/science/7725727/Castrated-men-live-longer

There you go Johnboy, have fun
Do castrated men live longer, or would it just seem that way?
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September 25, 2012 8:04pm
Johnboy

Homophoamoarchreligiousextroislamotrocious. 🙂
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September 25, 2012 8:04pm
Johnboy

Even though the loss of them just seems Orchiopexiocious! 🙂
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September 25, 2012 8:08pm
Yvette

Make a movie of it, Johnboy – like a nun in an apron dancing around an alpine paddock with four German kids and some mountain goats [other kids, eh] Castoration – using lots of sugar.
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September 25, 2012 8:10pm
Johnboy

Send me some screenshots of you wearing your habit Yvette! 🙂
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September 25, 2012 8:12pm
nasska

Yvette

Cavorting round a paddock has been done to death. This should get the humourless bastards twitching.

Ref: http://imgur.com/gallery/yeLY7
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September 25, 2012 8:13pm
Johnboy

Powerful thighs on that Nun nasska. She should be able to cavort around my hill country with ease! 🙂
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September 25, 2012 8:15pm
Johnboy

Just in folks Yvette in her apron. 🙂

http://www.google.co.nz/imgres?imgurl=http://static5.depositphotos.com/1042360/525/i/450/dep_5258468-Sexy-young-housewife-wearing-green-apron.jpg&imgrefurl=http://depositphotos.com/5258468/stock-photo-Sexy-young-housewife-wearing-green-apron.html&h=450&w=300&sz=32&tbnid=GFbyOGAylAAfXM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=60&prev=/search%3Fq%3DGirl%2Bwearing%2Ban%2Bapron%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=Girl+wearing+an+apron&usg=__s61rbc-NCoOu8Tn8DBsP7K3vkps=&docid=XvWrpp2TnAX1xM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=YmhhUPipFeWaiQe0uYDwCw&ved=0CC4Q9QEwBQ&dur=52
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September 25, 2012 8:17pm
Yvette

Nasska there should be more of that, and I think a Joint Cathdral in Christchurch would be a good idea too – Anglicans and RC – not joint, like unmentionable Phil would think
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September 25, 2012 8:18pm
Griff

Maybe it was not an eel http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6161691.stm
There is a “lack of awareness” over condom sizes
A survey of more than 1,000 men in India has concluded that condoms made according to international sizes are too large for a majority of Indian men.
The conclusion of all this scientific endeavour is that about 60% of Indian men have penises which are between three and five centimetres shorter than international standards used in condom manufacture.
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September 25, 2012 8:19pm
Yvette

Johnboy, the hair is much longer
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September 25, 2012 8:19pm
nasska

Definitely a mammal JB. 🙂
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September 25, 2012 8:19pm
Johnboy

You can see why I like her so much eh! 🙂
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September 25, 2012 8:20pm
Johnboy

Where Yvette?
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September 25, 2012 8:21pm
Yvette

Griff – based on the New York theory that then leaves about 2,482,983.9 metres more unused female plumbing in India than elsewhere in the world.

Johnboy – as in the photo, where did you think
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September 25, 2012 8:27pm
nasska

Yvette

Perhaps we should send JB to the sub continent to fill in for the deficiencies of a few Indian males.
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September 25, 2012 8:31pm
Griff

Trois beaux-frères discutent entre eux.
Le premier lance : qu’est-ce que vous avez offert à la belle-mère pour son anniversaire ?
L’un dit : moi je lui ai offert un collier en or, il est joli mais vous savez je gagne pas des cents et des milles alors. Je lui ai aussi offert une écharpe; comme ça si elle aime pas le collier elle pourra le cacher.
Le second raconte la même histoire avec une montre et des gants pour la cacher.
Et le troisième dit : moi je lui ai offert des boucles d’oreilles et un préservatif.
Pourquoi ? s’exclament les deux autres.
Parce que si elle n’est pas contente elle ira se faire enculer !!

Three brothers-in-law are talking. The first says, “What’d you get the mother-in-law for her birthday?”
One says: “Me, I got her a gold necklace. It’s pretty, but I’m not rich, so I also got her a scarf. That way, she can hide the necklace if she doesn’t like it.”
The second one says the same thing, but in his case, it’s a watch along with gloves to hide the merchandise.
The third brother-in-law says, “Yeah, well, I got her earrings and a condom.”
“Why?” the others exclaim.
“Because if she doesn’t like those earrings, she can go fuck herself.”
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September 25, 2012 8:31pm
nasska

A good looking woman breaks down on a dark rainy night in the middle of nowhere. She seeks refuge at a nearby farm. the farmer informs her ”You can stay here but the only room is sharing with my two 19 yr old twin sons” She says that would be fine and will be on her way as soon as the breakdown truck arrived. As the three of them are getting ready for bed the woman suddenly gets the urge to be shagged senseless by the two strapping sons, so she hands them a condom each and invites them into her bed. ”What are these for then miss”? ”You wear them on your dicks so I won’t get pregnant” A night of passion soon ensues and the woman goes on her way in the morning.
A week goes by and the two sons are working in the field and Paddy turns to Mick and says ”I don’t give a shit if she does gets pregnant I’m taking this bloody thing off”.
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September 25, 2012 8:34pm
Johnboy

I only showed half the photo so as not to upset nice Mr. Farrar Yvette.

How did you get to see all of it?
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September 25, 2012 8:37pm
Griff

The only seat available on the train was directly adjacent to a well dressed middle aged French woman and the seat was being used by her dog. The weary traveler asked, “Ma’am, please move your dog. I need that seat.” The French woman looked down her nose at the American, sniffed and said, You Americans. Your are such a rude class of people. Can’t you see my little FiFi is using that seat?” The American walked away, determined to find a place to rest, but after another trip down to the end of the train, found himself again facing the woman with the dog. Again he asked, “Please, lady. May I sit there?”. I’m very tired.” The French woman wrinkled her nose and snorted “You Americans! Not only are you rude, you are also arrogant….Imagine!” The American didn’t say anything else, he leaned over, picked up the dog, tossed it out the window of the train and sat down in the empty seat. The woman shrieked and railed, and demanded that someone defend her honor and chastise the American. An English man sitting across the aisle spoke up indignantly “You know,sir, you Americans do seem to have a penchant for doing the wrong thing. You eat holding the fork in the wrong hand. You drive your autos on the wrong side of the road. And now, Sir, you’ve thrown the wrong bitch out the window.”
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September 25, 2012 8:51pm
Johnboy

You should have got Monsieur Bing to translate that joke into German so Yvette wouldn’t have got so upset Griff.
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September 25, 2012 8:54pm
nasska

Women say magazines demean them and portray an unrealistic image of beauty therefore making ordinary females feel inadequate. Then they buy 12 inch dildos…..
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September 25, 2012 8:59pm
Griff

Yvette is no middle aged matron JB she is to happy to play silly buggers with the likes of you 😉
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September 25, 2012 9:02pm
Johnboy

And all these years I thought she was just toying with me. 🙂
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September 25, 2012 9:09pm
Griff

Indulgences German style http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19699581 no pay no haven
German Catholics lose church rights for unpaid tax
Catholic church in Emsdetten, Germany The number of Catholics leaving the Church has sharply increased
Germany’s Roman Catholics are to be denied the right to Holy Communion or religious burial if they stop paying a special church tax.
A German bishops’ decree which has just come into force says anyone failing to pay the tax – an extra 8% of their income tax bill – will no longer be considered a Catholic.
The bishops have been alarmed by the number of Catholics leaving the Church.
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September 25, 2012 9:29pm
Kevin

Thats your best joke yet. Although I think the fart tax might have it beat.

One thing about politicians is their creativity when it comes to taxes.
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September 25, 2012 9:34pm
LabourDoesntWork

China has a great solution to the problem – it’s called the one-child policy.

But seriously, what is it with this current attitude that it is somehow a so-called “right” to have as many children as you want, and then expect somebody else to pick up the tab?

Exactly. You were serious all along, really. Child poverty after decades of welfarism is proof of the failure of big government. The solution to the problem is fascistic control of birthrates.

Fascism is always the left’s solution.

(Look at the “socialist” Obama’s fascist healthcare, his bailing out of banks, and buying up of corporations accompanied by massive tax breaks.)

The real problem is, subsidising irresponsible behaviour results in more of the same. Conservatives have warned about it – and pointed right to it, for years. Rather than learn the obvious lesson, progressives simply respond with talk of population control: coercive measures against reproductive freedom.

So much for pro-choice.

All the useful idiots and suckers who bought into the “pro-choice” slogan are just a means to an end; a few votes. For the left, ideology always trumps the individual. The useful idiots always realise it too late.

Government is everyone’s problem once it has its way.
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September 25, 2012 10:30pm
Manolo

The unAmerican president at his worst: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/us-president-speaks-un-about-youtube-video-posted-june-southern-californian
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September 26, 2012 7:03am
Viking2

So there goes Bill’ surplus for another year. via the ANZ/Fairfx tax rort system.

How the hell can a company write of Goodwill?
Goodwill is a capital expense. You pays your money for it and there is not a reason in the world why the taxpayer should refund your money.

Abandoning the National Bank brand could result in Australian parent ANZ writing off up to $3.5 billion in goodwill and reducing its capital requirement, banking expert David Tripe says.

Dropping the brand within the current financial year might allow ANZ to write off up to $3.5b in goodwill associated with the brand, if it could convince accountants it was allowed to do so under new accounting rules, Tripe said.

That would substantially improve the reported return on equity for the New Zealand business, he said.

It would be a “brave and costly” move to make the National Bank brand suddenly disappear.

“But if you did that before the end of the financial year, you could then write off the goodwill against this year’s profit,” Tripe said.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/7728524/ANZ-to-scrap-National-Bank-brand

Here’s one customer gone if they do.
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September 26, 2012 7:07am
Manolo

Really?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/09/25/obama_the_future_must_not_belong_to_those_who_slander_the_prophet_of_islam.html
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September 26, 2012 7:08am
Viking2

Police agency Organised and Financial Crime Agency New Zealand had asked GCSB to track Dotcom down and ascertain if he would be a risk to police during an arrest.

Like the police didn’t know where he was? Most others including Mr Banks did.

The spying began on December 16 last year and lasted until January 20, when Dotcom’s Coatesville mansion was raided and he was arrested on anti-piracy charges.

So I want to know who forced the confession?

two weeks ago agents were forced to confess to Mr Key their spying had broken the law. He immediately ordered an inquiry by Inspector-General Paul Neazor, the results of which are expected by week’s end.

Numpty Bill either played dumb as two short planks or was complicit in this action. Which do we think it was or was it both?
Not a lot of brain power here, but them we already knop that. Be good if he joined Bollard and Fletcher and just fucked off forever.
As acting prime minister, Bill English signed a ministerial certificate barring disclosure of GCSB activities a month ago but Prime Minister John Key only learned of its existence on Monday
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September 26, 2012 7:19am
Kevin

Bill Hodge speaks sense on breakfast this morning for the very first time in his life. The only issue is if the US can produce enough evidence against KDC to convince a NZ court to extradite. Everything else is a sideshow three ring circus. Goodness me, an academic lawyer from Auckland University speaking sense?
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