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September 19, 2012 8:00am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 19 September 2012

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nasska

To the Infidel,

Islam means submission. That can be quite hard for you non-Muslims to understand, so I’ll give some examples.

Say you’re in prison. You could struggle against the “top dogs”, but unless you’re Mohammed Ali you’ll get your face broken. “Submission” means accepting the status quo, even if that is bending over for another man, spreading your cheeks like a woman, and letting him use your shit-chute as a masturbation aid. In other words, “Islam” says “take it like a girl”.

The human body is a wonderful thing. Over time it changes in subtle but important ways – the hair gets longer and coarser, the skin tone darker, and all bodies develop a distinctive aroma. You could fight this natural progression by, for example, having a wash. “Islam” says “let it grow”.

Economic markets are a powerful force. If you try to fight the current you will always lose. “Submission” means going with the flow, getting the maximum out while putting the minimum in. “Islam” says “play the benefits system”.

We all spend time doing unnecessary things. Just think how many people wake up, take off their night clothes, only to put another set of clothes on! “Islam” says “go out in your pyjamas”.

In the west, politics has become big business. People struggle this way and that to get different (or not-so-different) candidates into power, culminating in a great voting marathon. “Submission” means accepting the strong leader you already have. “Islam” says “live happily in a dictatorship”.

Now that you understand my religion, I hope you can give us the respect we deserve. Just don’t expect much back – that is the way of Islam.
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September 19, 2012 7:19pm
Reid

This is good too, but sadly, I suspect many will fail to put the pieces together:

http://deanhenderson.wordpress.com/2012/06/17/the-council-on-foreign-relations/

This is just one minor outcome:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2203892/Nick-Harvey-axed-supporting-Iran-attack.html

But of course it’s not twue, is it.
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September 19, 2012 7:19pm
Griff

Just been to my first Muslim birthday party. The musical chairs was a bit slow, but fuck me the pass the parcel was quick!
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September 19, 2012 7:30pm
nasska

So I was recently reading that condoms are effective only 97% of the time and I thought that’s not good enough.

So I tried getting my girlfriend to use the pill, this is apparently 98% effective.

So then I tried the female condom, and found that to be 99% effective.

But after all this I still strove for a method that is 100% effective.

So yesterday I converted to Islam and dyed my hair ginger.
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September 19, 2012 7:42pm
Griff

I was in a pub and told the following joke:

What do you do if an epileptic has a fit in the bath?

Throw your clothes in so they get a wash.

Once the guffawing of my friends had died down, I became aware of a man on the other side of the bar, looking quite choked and talking to the landlord. The landlord came over to me and told me that the gentleman at the bar had recently lost his son and that my joke had offended him. I thought I should apologise. I approached the gentleman at the bar and offered my condolences for his loss and my apologies if my joke had upset him. He said that the joke had only got to him because his son was an epileptic and it was a fit which killed him.

I wondered as to how a fit could actually kill someone and the man said that his son had slipped and hit his head and that was what had killed him. I asked where his son had slipped and the man said it was in the bath. Well, I realised then how inappropriate my joke had been in the circumstances.

“Did your son hit his head on a tap then?” I asked.

“No,” replied the man; “he choked on one of my socks”.
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September 19, 2012 7:55pm
nasska

A big row broke out in the Irish synchronised swimming team at the Olympics.

Paddy says Mick was copying him.
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September 19, 2012 8:00pm
Griff

An Englishman, Welshman and maori are in hospital, waiting for their wives to give birth. There is quite a bit of pacing up and down when the nurse comes out and happily announces that they are all fathers of bouncing baby boys.

“There’s just one problem” she says. “Because they were all born at the same time we got the tags mixed up and we don’t know which baby belongs to whom. Would you, as their fathers, mind coming to identify them?” The men agree and walk into the delivery room and look at the babies.

Immediately the Englishman stoops down and picks up the brown baby. “Yes, this is definietly my baby” he says confidently.
eh bro says the maori “but I think dats my Pēpe

The Englishman pulls him aside and says “I see where you’re coming from mate but one of these babies is Welsh and I’m not prepared to take the risk”
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September 19, 2012 8:11pm
nasska

Reid

Does this gel with you?

Ref: http://plancksconstant.org/blog1/2011/06/why_muslims_revolt.html
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September 19, 2012 8:20pm
Yvette

THE BOSS on SKY SOHO is trailered as R18 VLSC
so violence, language, sex – but what is C?
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September 19, 2012 8:23pm
Nostalgia-NZ

Cosmopolitan.
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September 19, 2012 8:26pm
nasska

Yvette

Content or contains?
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September 19, 2012 8:29pm
Reid

nasska, I’m afraid one will never understand Muslims unless and until one realises they’re human first, muslim second.

Frankly I’m at a loss to understand why many, many people in the west even need that basic truth explicated, and yet they do.

I know you’re discerning enough to know the difference and this comment isn’t directed at you, and thanks for the link, it was quite good.

But it’s unhelpful, in exactly the same way that laughing at niggers is unhelpful.

Isn’t it interesting BTW that many many western people today would truly believe in their heart such a thought to be an anaethema and yet in the very same thought process they completely overlook all of that and go and toss over the ragheads.

That’s what propaganda does. It veils that simple logic by fooling you into pretending that four legs is good, and two legs is bad.

Edit: to the PC police, I used the n word to make a point, not gratuitously, in case one can’t tell the diff.
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September 19, 2012 8:32pm
Griff

Shit reid I hate it when you talk like that
makes it hard to dismiss the other stuff 😉
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September 19, 2012 8:48pm
Reid

This is funny.

http://wemustknow.wordpress.com/2012/09/18/this-is-why-jesse-ventura-is-not-allowed-on-live-tv/
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September 19, 2012 8:48pm
Yvette

Rating ‘C’
apparently is Content may offend
so R18 VLSC appears to mean something else will offend besides violence, language or sex.
Yeah, figures – I suppose
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September 19, 2012 8:56pm
Colville

C = Content. Drug use would be my pick.

Great show tho!
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September 19, 2012 9:03pm
Reid

Griff, you can’t easily dismiss this either. It has a photo.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09/17/ufo-war-chinese-and-us-navy-off-san-francisco/
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September 19, 2012 9:16pm
Griff

you can not dismiss this ether
The Declaration of Equality http://www.nzcpr.com/petition_EqualRights.php
Target: 50000
Number of people who have signed: 19884
a little counter weight to the treaty industry 🙂
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September 19, 2012 9:30pm
Kevin

Thanks for keeping it in our face griff.

NRC – No Racist Constitution
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September 19, 2012 9:35pm
Reid

Sometimes I wonder Griff if a lot of the racial angst would disappear if we, the nation, simply took Maori at their word and consulted with them, rather than doing it after the fact, as some sort of lip service.

We’re getting better at it as time goes by but fact is, lots and lots of national and local body decisions that have caused angst in the past could have been headed off at the pass by that simple exigency.

Of course many people both Maori and other these days tie consultation inextricably to “koha” and that’s what I mean above when I say, why not take them at their word.

Possibly it’s all too late and due to the precedent we non-Maori have set through our habit of failing to consult, has resulted in a mentality whereby now, these days, it means koha.

But things can change. People aren’t robots, are we. And I just wait and see what happens, when the first PM who finally, finally get’s it, to announce that during their entire tenure, one of the their first watchwords, if not the first watchword will be, consult, consult, consult.

We haven’t ever tried that, and we should. For apart from everything else, it gives all of us in the entire country to hold Maori to account for what they proclaim is all they want and need. And if they want koha on top of that, and we’ve tried the consultation, genuinely, we have a chance to challenge them on that. But without the former, we can’t do the latter, and that’s where we’ve always been, ever since Lange set the Treaty process going in 1984.
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September 19, 2012 9:56pm
Kevin

Govt consults till the cows come home then does what it likes. We already pay enormous koha. But why does the consultation have yo be with one special race? They should consult within us all.

What we as a nation – Maori and non Maori alike – have never done isnsaid “no” to these iwi elitists. Sooner or later we must say no, but now it’s saying no to a monster.
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September 19, 2012 10:36pm
Reid

Kev read between the lines. Of course that’s what’s happened. What I’m saying is, it doesn’t need to be like that.
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September 19, 2012 11:03pm
Griff

Actually reid words fail me I tried writing a long spiel
All I want is equality and democracy one man one vote all equal under the law. I do not see special privilege or right upholding this especially if it is based on race.
We are going to have a new constitution and ether we chose it or it will be forced upon us complete with a racist doctrine derive from a poorly written document from 172 years ago and some undefined principles
http://www.nzcpr.com/petition_EqualRights.php
The Declaration of Equality
We, New Zealanders, having founded our society in the equality of comradeship, and living here at home in the land we have made, utterly oppose any laws which establish or promote racial distinction or division.There shall be one law for all:And we pledge ourselves to oppose and resist all those of whatever rank or degree who, whether by force or the devious processes of the law, attempt to impose the fetters of racial inequality on the free citizens of New Zealand.

it is sad that this will cause division but the alternative is worse
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September 20, 2012 12:32am
wtfunz

Hi Reid,
Interesting point but its lost on me for the following reason. If main roads wants to put a road through my land it consults me by saying this is what is happening, here’s some money, suck it up.

When consulting maori you are talking lala land stuff, taniwha’s, hapu’s, tapu’s or any other stoneage poo’s you want to name. They call it cultural but they forgot all about it for decades. Then some white, misguided moron(s) said “we should listen to this poo’s”. All of a sundden there was money in poo’s and for the “consulted” maori.

Tell me – do you really support the maori seats on the Auckland council and the rubbish demands this is leading to. Please remind me again how many million (300?) Auckland rate payers are being extorted for to “expand maori interests” in Auckland. Can you not see and hear the pigs at the trough? Bad enough the nation pays out via the WOT tribunal black comedy but now a second, third, fourth dip via local councils. Maybe the Muslims will save us from the Len Browns of this world.
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