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kowtow

slijmbal
I heard it first in 1978 from a mate in Ireland.
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August 31, 2012 6:18pm
Manolo

I agree with bereal: Smile-and-wave Key is an utter failure as leader.
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August 31, 2012 6:22pm
Reid

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/8721151/Market-crash-could-hit-within-weeks-warn-bankers.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/036951_financial_collapse_optimism_silver_lining.html

http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.nz/2012/08/newspaper-magazine-tv-news-viewership.html

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/it-is-not-just-your-imagination-american-families-are-getting-poorer

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2185122/Robert-Hughes-death-The-man-dared-tell-truth-charlatans-modern-art.html
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August 31, 2012 6:30pm
Reid

Mars – full panorama

http://www.panoramas.dk/mars/curiosity-first-color-360.html
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August 31, 2012 6:39pm
Manolo

Thank you, Reid. Brilliant stuff.
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August 31, 2012 6:46pm
nasska

Reid

Great link…..it’s not hard to imagine what it would have been like with water. The ground looks just like any number of dry lake/river beds on Earth.
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August 31, 2012 6:56pm
Reid

Look at the sky. Does that look like an atmosphere to you?
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August 31, 2012 7:01pm
Reid

4 year old plays piano better than any master:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omuYi2Vhgjo

Why?
http://www.indigochild.com/
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August 31, 2012 7:07pm
nasska

Reid

Well not the sort of atmosphere we’re used to in Aotearoa……no clouds. Having said that on the one occasion I ventured into the Australian outback the periods just after dawn & just before dusk produced similar views.
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August 31, 2012 7:09pm
Reid

It’s just that we’ve been “educated” to expect you’d see complete black and heaps of stars, just like you see here if you can get to places without the light pollution. Just like on the moon. Whether it’s “day” or night. But we don’t here. That’s interesting.
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August 31, 2012 7:29pm
slijmbal

@kowtow it does depend on whether you’re talking orange or green as the Black & Tans only really targeted the IRA from memory (too lazy to google). I did say many and not all pubs.

I grew up in Liverpool a city with a huge irish influence and you could not order a black and tan in some pubs. Nan was irish and would get into verbal abuse of the black and tans after a few guinness and whiskey. My northern irish flatmates also confirmed it could get you in to trouble. Often called a 1/2 and 1/2 as well – the drink this time.

Though I agree taking offense at it is pretty dim when no offense is intended – it’s obvious from context that a black and tan in a pub is a guiness and bitter and even in an intensely irish influenced place like liverpool it was fine in most pubs.
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August 31, 2012 7:35pm
Fletch

Clint Eastwood’s firing up the crowd at the RNC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoqKdWY692k

Some choice quotes –

“Biden is the intellect of the Democratic party” *burn!*

“We own this country […] it’s not politicians owning it; politicians are employees of ours”

“When somebody does not do the job, we gotta let ’em go”

(To an invisible Obama)”You want to make my day, huh?”
(To the crowd)”You start it, I’ll finish it – Go ahead…”
(Crowd)”Make my day!”
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August 31, 2012 7:41pm
nasska

Reid

….”The colors on this panorama are enchanced to give the same colors as it would have under lights on earth.”…..

Whatever process they used to bring up the colours might well have destroyed the contrast that highlighted the stars. Still I see where you’re coming from.
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August 31, 2012 7:42pm
thedavincimode

Reid

They really need to re-grass the fairways and plant some trees etc. Looks a pretty boring course as it is.
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August 31, 2012 7:51pm
nasska

An Irishman was making his way back home through a dingy alleyway after a long day at work one night…
Suddenly out of the darkness, a balaclava-wearing pair of nutjobs jumped him…

They tried to instantly wrestle him to the ground. He fought them off.
They tried punching and striking him. He dodged, ducked, and dipped out the way.
They tried hitting him with bricks, even a crowbar. Yet he took their best shots and managed to still remain standing.
They.
Furious and intense fighting ensued over the next 2 minutes with both of these muggers trying their utmost to floor our Irish hero. It was truly brutal stuff.

Yet after the brawl, they manage to overcome the poor guy who was beaten to a pulp and had put up a fight like Rocky Balboa himself.
The muggers searched him and found only a small amount of change and a few worthless documents in his briefcase – they asked him why he fought like such a champion for such worthless shit????
”ohhhhhh i thought you were looking for the fockin’ £200 in my shoe” came the reply….
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August 31, 2012 8:00pm
Johnboy

Ae! I’m waiting for Curiosity to beam back the first photos of Matakerepo so we can beam the Waitangi Tribunal up to the Bradbury site to stake the claim for the Tangata Te Martians! 🙂
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August 31, 2012 8:04pm
kowtow

slijmbal
republicans tend to be really up themselves and have actually created the climate of fear and hatred that pervades much of the discourse around these things.They have taken on the mantle of victimhood and milked it for all it’s worth. Hollywood only perpetuates this bollocks.

Guinness is a really good example of Irish stereotype hypocrisy. The Guinness family epitomise everything that the republican tradition hate. Anglo Irish ascendancy,Protestant,wealth,privelige,influence etc and you couldn’t get a more Irish symbol?

I wasn’t surprised to learn that the Royal British Legion regularly had Poppy Day in Ireland after the Great War (10,s of thousands of volunteers) but it was republican bully boy thugs who threatened them off the streets. They wanted to create their own version of history and sadly through terrorism succeeded.

http://scolairestaire.com/index.php/articles/34-irish-history/80-british-army-veterans-in-free-state
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August 31, 2012 8:13pm
kowtow

nasska trawling the internet again for nasty material.

these are real Irish fighting men,not the stuff of his offensive pathetic jokes.

http://www.dublin-fusiliers.com/ships/clyde.html
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August 31, 2012 8:21pm
Johnboy

Begorrah kowtow. Ye can no get a stouter band of Oirish heroes dan dese fellers!! 🙂

“Slattery’s Mounted Foot”
by Percy French (1889)

You’ve heard of Julius Ceasar and the great Napolean too,
And how the Cork militia beat the Turks at Waterloo;
But there’s a page of glory that as yet remains uncut,
And that’s the warlike story of old Slattery’s Mounted Fut.

This gallant corps was organised by Slattery and his son,
A noble-hearted poacher with a double-breasted gun.
And many a head was broken, aye, and many an eye was shot,
When practising maneuvers in the Slattery’s Mounted Fut.

Chorus
And down from the mountains came the squadrons and platoons,
Four-and-twenty fighting men and a couple of stout gossoons;
When going into action held each musket by the butt,
We sang this song and marched along, the Slattery’s mounted Fut.

Well, first we reconnoitered ’round O’Sullivan’s Shabeen—
It used to be a chop house but we called it the canteen;
And there we saw a notice which the bravest heart unnerved:
“All liquor must be settled for before the drink is served.”

So on we marched, but soon again each warrior’s heart grew pale,
For rising high in front of us we saw the county jail;
And when the army faced about, ’twas just in time to find,
A couple of stout policemen had surrounded us behind.

Chorus
And down from the mountains came the squadrons and platoons,
Four-and-twenty fighting men and a couple of stout gossoons.
When going into action held each musket by the butt
We sang the song and marched along, the Slattery’s mounted fut.”

“We’ll cross the ditch,” our leader cried, “and take the forward flank;”
But yells of consternation here arose from every rank;
For posted high upon a tree we very plainly saw:
“Trespassers prosecuted, in accordance with the law.”

“We’re foiled!” exclaimed bold Slattery, “here ends our grand campaign,
‘Tis merely throwing life away to face that raging drain;
I’m not as bold as lions but I’m braver than a hen,
And he that fights and runs away will live to fight again.”

Chorus
So back to the mountains went the squadrons and platoons,
Four-and-twenty fighting men and a couple of stout gossoons.
When going into action held each musket by the butt,
We sang this song and marched along, the Slattery’s mounted Fut.

We reached the mountains safely, though all stiff and sore with cramp.
Each took a whet of whiskey straight to dissipate the damp;
And when they loaded all their pipes, bold Slattery up and said:
Today’s immortal fight will be remembered by the dead.”

“I never shall forget,” said he, “while this brave heart shall beat,
The eager way you followed when I headed the retreat.
Ye preferred the soldier’s maxim, when desisting from the strife:
‘Best be a coward for five minutes than a dead man all your life.'”

Chorus
And back to the mountains came the squadrons and platoons,
Four and twenty fighting men and a couple of stout gossoons,
When going into action held each musket by the butt,
We sang this song and marched along, the slattery’s mounted fut!
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August 31, 2012 8:37pm
nasska

In the wee hours of the morning three Irish robbers meet and embark on their plans to get rich. Once inside the bank, efforts at disabling the internal security system get under way immediately. The robbers, expecting to find one or two huge safes filled with cash and valuables were more than surprised to see hundreds of smaller safes scattered strategically throughout the bank.

The first safe’s combination was cracked, and inside the robbers found only a bowl of vanilla pudding. “Well,” said one robber to another, “at least we got a bit to eat.” They opened up the second safe and it also contained nothing but vanilla pudding, and the process continued until all the safes were opened and there was not one dollar, a diamond, nor an ounce of gold to be found.

Instead, all the safes contained containers of pudding. Disappointed, each of the mobsters made a quiet exit, leaving with nothing more than queasy, uncomfortably full stomachs.

The following morning, a Dublin newspaper headline read: “IRELAND’S LARGEST SPERM BANK ROBBED EARLY THIS MORNING…”
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August 31, 2012 8:38pm
Johnboy

Bejesus nasska. Have I been in a time warp? It’s not St. Patrick’s day is it? 🙂
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August 31, 2012 8:44pm
Reid

Remember I said more than a year ago Obama might play the race card in his campaign and when the Zimmerman-Martin incident arose earlier this year I said it was an opportunity for the “system” to operate in that play? Well, guess what?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/30/george-zimmerman-granted-new-judge

You just watch this play out over the coming months. It’s a real subtle one. Let’s hope I’m wrong.

+ another sign of shifting alliances
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/08/30/258966/merkel-in-china-for-economic-talks/

“This bilateral relationship… has gone beyond a bilateral scope and acquired global significance.”

“Germany is an export-oriented economy, while China has the largest market in the world,” Song stated, adding that the two nations could cooperate on a range of fields, including emerging industries, infrastructure and renewable energy.
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August 31, 2012 8:48pm
Reid

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/08/30/uk-china-europe-wen-idUKBRE87T05X20120830
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August 31, 2012 8:52pm
RF

Spare a very brief thought for that Dawson person who rubbished NZ from the save haven of Australia. What a pathetic social climber. Drama queen !!
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August 31, 2012 9:17pm
kowtow

yeah johnboy, Percy french using his imagination,originality and own sense of humour to come up with some light hearted fun as opposed to thicko nasska constantly trawling the internet for old jokes to post here to prove to himself and a few others that he’s not a sad old fuck.
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August 31, 2012 9:29pm
Johnboy

Lighten up there kowtow. It’s a lovely night if you are above ground and who knows you may win Lotto tomorrow! 🙂
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August 31, 2012 9:35pm
kowtow

jb

generally pretty light. Pretty fucking sick of nasska’s pathetic ,and to be honest constantly fucking boring internet trawled Irish jokes.

One trick wonder that lad.
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August 31, 2012 9:42pm
Johnboy

If you don’t like his Irish jokes then you’ll love this kowtow.

There was a young man from Australia
Who painted his arse like a …….
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August 31, 2012 9:46pm
RandySavage

join your brain and get some sleep Johnboy
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August 31, 2012 9:48pm
Johnboy

I will seeing you’ve arrived to entertain us all Randy. 🙂
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August 31, 2012 9:52pm
Griff

poor wittle kpowtow s all ofended by the jokes

Two beggars are sitting side by side on a street in Rome, Italy.

One has a Cross in front of him; the other one is holding the Star of David.

Many people go by, look at both beggars, but only put money into the hat of the beggar sitting behind the Cross.

The Pope comes by. He stops to watch the throngs of people giving money to the beggar who holds the Cross while none give to the beggar holding the Star of David.

Finally, the Pope approaches the beggar with the Star of David and says, “My poor fellow, don’t you understand? This is a Catholic country; this city is the seat of Catholicism. People aren’t going to give you money if you sit there with a Star of David in front of you, especially when you’re sitting beside a beggar who is holding a Cross. In fact, they would probably give more money to him just out of spite.”

The beggar with the Star of David listened to the Pope, smiled, and turned to the beggar with the Cross and said, “Moishe, would you look who’s trying to teach the Goldstein brothers about marketing!”
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August 31, 2012 10:01pm
kowtow

jb

Variety the spice of life .

These guys who get stuck on one or 2 themes like griff the poor fucker who thinks the world is ending cos he breaths out carbon dioxide ,sad and mad eh gwiff?
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August 31, 2012 10:20pm
Griff

No I am just a supporter of science you know things like earth is round and rotates around the sun, atoms and physics. All that modern stuff that science has discovered and not the deluded beliefs of a bunch of goat herders from 2000 years ago,
The world will not end that’s a typical Christian belief like the rapture, spirits and the rest of the mumbo jumbo.
Humanity will just have a few problems like mass starvation, drought and the inundation of vast areas of habited land
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August 31, 2012 10:37pm
kowtow

gwiff
you sound like a good old fashioned goat fucker doom merchant from the Middle east to me.

It was the Greeks who put everyone wrong on the sun old boy not the Christians. They just adopted the science of the day.

So the observed science of the day was wrong, Just like today’s “science” of gwobal warming is wrong!

We live and learn,as long as we’re not too arrogant and think we have all the answers,eh gwiff?
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August 31, 2012 11:01pm
Griff

You really are having a bad religious nutter day kowtow!!
feeling a little persecuted are we
oh dear how sad nether mind
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August 31, 2012 11:12pm
Liberal Minded Kiwi

Love your work Griff. A sad week if you believe in deities – a fine week for the rest of us.
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August 31, 2012 11:25pm
graham

Oh, I don’t know, LMK. I believe in God, and my week’s been just dandy!

Plenty of work to keep me busy, first lambs born today, and a celebration earlier in the week with some good beer – the stuff you buy by the bottle, not by the crate.
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September 1, 2012 12:32am
Longknives

“A sad week if you believe in deities”

Why? Does the passing of a bill by the pissy little NZ parliament somehow disprove the existence of a higher power??
I’m no bible basher but Christ I hate smug Atheists….
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September 1, 2012 12:44am
Manolo

Barbie & Ken’s gay drama: http://inthedollhouse.net/
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