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Fletch

From Trevor Loudon’s blog – release about the July 4th Defeat Obama Telethon.

MEDIA ADVISORY – Tuesday, July 3, 2012
CONTACT: Ryan Gill at Ryan@CampaignToDefeatObama.com or (650) 678-7732

Lineup of Guests for 4th of July Defeat Obama Telethon
We are pleased to unveil the lineup of guests for tomorrow’s Defeat Obama Telethon.

The 4th of July “Defeat Barack Obama Telethon” will be based on a similar model to Jerry Lewis’s historic Labor Day Telethons to fight Muscular Dystrophy. The event is sponsored by The Campaign to Defeat Barack Obama, a conservative political action committee.

Here are confirmed guests for this historic event:

Herman Cain – 2012 Republican presidential candidate and founder of Cain’s Solutions.
Sheriff Joe Arpaio – “America’s Sheriff”
Janine Turner – Radio talk show host, television commentator and actress.
Dick Morris – Political analyst, author.
Phyllis Schlafly – Founder, Eagle Forum
Wayne Allyn Root – 2008 Vice Presidential candidate for the Libertarian Party, author of “The Conscience of a Libertarian: Empowering the Citizen Revolution with God, Guns, Gold and Tax Cuts” and a television commentator.
Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher – Joe The Plumber, Congressional candidate.
Melanie Morgan – Radio talk show host, author of “American Mourning” and a television commentator.
Jackie Mason – Comedian and actor.
Alveda King – Niece of Dr. Martin Luther King, Christian minister, pro-life activist and author.
Amy Kremer – Chairman, Tea Party Express.
Joe Miller – 2010 Republican nominee for U.S. Senate (Alaska) and former federal magistrate.
Dr. Gina Loudon – Radio talk show host, tea party activist.
Jedediah Bila – Author, television & radio political commentator.
Judson Phillips – Founder, Tea Party Nation and Director, TheTeaParty.net
Floyd Brown – ExposeObama.com
Victoria Jackson – Actress, activist and former “Saturday Night Live” cast member.
Deroy Murdock – Syndicated columnist and contributing editor for National Review.
Debbie Lee – Gold Star Mom – Director, Move America Forward and Founder of America’s Mighty Warriors.
William Gheen – President, Americans for Legal Immigration PAC.
Ryan Mauro – National Security Analyst, RadicalIslam.com
Teri Christoph – Co-Chair of She-PAC, and Co-Founder and Vice President of Smart Girl Politics.
Pamela Geller – Author, blogger, political commentator.
Jason Mattera – Editor of Human Events, author.
Dr. Melissa Clouthier – Conservative leader on Twitter.
Pat Dollard – Former Hollywood agent, patriot and filmmaker.
Tabitha Hale – Director of New Media of The Franklin Center.
Eric Odom – Director of Interactive Media at Grassfire Nation.
Danny Tarkanian – Congressional candidate.
Terresa Monroe Hamilton – Conservative blogger, “The Progressive Hunter.” NoisyRoom.net
Ali Akbar – Vice President, Vice & Victory
David Codrea – Gun Rights Examiner, broke Fast & Furious scandal.
Ted Cruz – Candidate for U.S. Senate, Former Solicitor General of Texas.
Dan Riehl – Riehl World View
★ HOW TO WATCH/LISTEN TO THE TELETHON ★
The Telethon will air LIVE from 1:00pm – 6:00pm Pacific / 4:00pm – 9:00pm Eastern.

On the radio we’ll be broadcasting LIVE from the studios of News/Talk 720 AM in Las Vegas and the online stream can be heard from your computer. Just go to: http://www.KDWN.com

On Television the Telethon will be broadcast live in Las Vegas on Vegas TV 25 – Cable 14, and from Pahrump on KPVM TV 46.3

The video stream of the telecast can be seen online via UStream.tv at: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/july-4-defeat-obama-telethon
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July 4, 2012 3:04pm
freemark

“Tertullian similarly scorned those who would use the gospel to justify gratifying the cravings of the flesh:…”
I crave the flesh and my flesh has cravings, no justifications required.
That guy was a fuckwit, only fuckwits would quote him
hang on….
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July 4, 2012 3:13pm
cha

Oh dear.
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July 4, 2012 3:17pm
Manolo

The savvy against the useless: http://news.msn.co.nz/article.aspx?id=8493982
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July 4, 2012 3:55pm
chiz

More zombie attacks!
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July 4, 2012 4:36pm
thedavincimode

Good heavens chiz.

I thought you were referring to Kiwiblog’s jury panel.
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July 4, 2012 5:03pm
David Garrett

Just back in…very quiet here today…I wonder why?
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July 4, 2012 5:25pm
nasska

I can’t, offhand, think of anyone who might find this link helpful but just in case.

Ref: http://www.mademan.com/mm/10-men-masturbation-tips.html
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July 4, 2012 5:35pm
thedavincimode

nasska

I imagine that a committed vegan would go for the Banana Hammock.
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July 4, 2012 5:42pm
David Garrett

Nasska: “Oh my Gaaard” as my daughter says…I personally find the real thing about 100 times better…

That old BOP is still holding eh? creaking and groaning under the pressure, but holding…
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July 4, 2012 5:51pm
nasska

thedavincimode

I can see the attraction but you must admit the Waterwings suggestion could be up there with Debbie Does Dallas if it could be videoed.

But where would we find a star? A true Adonis in the mould of Ron Jeremy to do the role justice?

Oh wait!
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July 4, 2012 5:52pm
nasska

David Garrett

I’m inclined to go along with you but we must cater for all tastes.
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July 4, 2012 5:54pm
David Garrett

An Adonis! Now there’s one here from time to time….

There is still no explanation for the Blessed Silence… eh?
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July 4, 2012 6:01pm
big bruv

“An Adonis”

You called?
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July 4, 2012 6:07pm
Manolo

Ditch it, abolish it, can it altogether: http://news.msn.co.nz/nationalnews/8494002/ets-changes-fell-forestry-carbon-farming
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July 4, 2012 6:12pm
nasska

big bruv

You have to understand that there will probably be a lot of competition for a starring role in our upcoming video. I’d hate for you to be disappointed if someone else was chosen. 🙂
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July 4, 2012 6:12pm
Leaping Jimmy

Quite a good explanation if one is interested:

http://zen-haven.dk/what-is-the-higgs-boson/
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July 4, 2012 6:16pm
big bruv

nasska

No idea what the video will be about but if you need two fit, toned and stunningly good looking blokes then save yourself some time and give the gig to me and MT Tinman.

Oh…there is one potential problem, when I do turn up for the first day of shooting you will realise that I am indeed David Garrett, come to think of it, so is MT Tinman.
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July 4, 2012 6:20pm
Other_Andy

Romney gaining ground on Obama

Rmney hasn’t even selected his vice president yet but is ahead of Obama.

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows Mitt Romney attracting 47% of the vote, while President Obama earns 44%. Four percent (4%) prefer some other candidate, and five percent (5%) are undecided.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

The newest Civitas Flash Poll suggests that Mitt Romney has gained crucial North Carolina support in the wake of the Supreme Court ruling on Obamacare.
In a poll taken June 29-July 1, 50 percent of voting age North Carolinians supported the former Massachusetts governor. President Obama was backed by 45 percent. In the March Civitas Poll, Romney led Obama 47 percent to 45 percent.

http://www.nccivitas.org/2012/civitas-poll-romney-leads-in-nc-after-court-ruling/
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July 4, 2012 6:24pm
thedavincimode

nasska

Lets not pusseyfoot around here. You refer of course to The Great Masturbator.

I may have some inkling regarding his absence. Over at the Gym Fees thread, upandcomer genuinely and generously offered The Great Masturbator all manner of assistance in knocking his whatever-it-is site into some sort of income-generating shape. A tall order indeed.

With almost child-like simpering, The Great Masturbator came (sorry!) across all gratefull. I fear that it was only later that The Great Masturbator realised that upandcomer’s generous offer came with the pre-condition that he obtain gainful employment. You can imagine his response to the need to subject himself to the deathly cold embrace of employment. He was no doubt torn assunder emotionally but I am confident that his internal gyro will soon restore him firmly to his chosen path of indolence and navigate him away from any notions of doing what the people who support him do.

It is possble that given similar offers have been made in the past, he has suffered the further realisation that there are any number of people here who would go out of their way to help him if only he demonstrated some commitment to getting his life in order and sharing his load (sorry, that was unintentional) in our society. As you might appreciate, this would severely compromise his present ability to masturbate at will, quiet aside from the inconvenience of w****** (oops, wor**** for clarity).
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July 4, 2012 6:33pm
nasska

thedavincimode

The conflict! The humanity! Shakespeare would have made much of a dilemma such as this.

In the end I think that regardless of any assistance offered the w*** word will prove to be an insurmountable object. I understand that he has been known to break out in a cold sweat & take to his bed when it is mentioned.
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July 4, 2012 6:42pm
Viking2

This is what makes greens groan. really stuffs their peak oil thoery.

A$23 billion LNG project to expand in Oz
BELINDA TASKER
Last updated 17:27 04/07/2012

A massive A$23 billion ($29 billion) gas project in Queensland is to be expanded, creating an extra 2000 jobs in rural areas.

The owners of the Australia Pacific liquefied natural gas (APLNG) project on Wednesday announced they had committed to developing a second stage.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/world/7221186/A-23-billion-LNG-project-to-expand-in-Oz

And Garrett, just how many alter ego’s do you have.
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July 4, 2012 6:59pm
kowtow

Shakespeare?

The secret Catholic?

Secret due to Protestant persecution.

His father was.It’s likely the Bard was too.

eh?
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July 4, 2012 7:16pm
thedavincimode

kowtow

Shakespeare?

The secret Catholic?

Does that explain the chorus of groans that the prospect of dealing with the bard elicited in the classes I attended? 😀
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July 4, 2012 7:22pm
nasska

kowtow

You’re definitely onto something there…..keep digging & you’ll probably find an evil protestant plot to persecute the righteous Papists.

Mention your efforts at your next confession & you’ll probably get a credit on your penitence account & a bag of chippies! 🙂
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July 4, 2012 7:26pm
mikenmild

Shakespeare a catholic? Maybe, but given virtually everything about his life has to be inferred from his writings we shall probably never know. Provides fertile grounds for all sorts of theories. He was gay too, of course.
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July 4, 2012 7:29pm
mikenmild

nasska
I don’t know what would be said about a priest carrying bags of chippies into the confessional.
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July 4, 2012 7:30pm
Steve (North Shore)

David Garrett,

…Will you please call off your hound dogs who impersonate you….
…They are pissing me off and I’m finding it hard to concentrate…
…There is only one David Garrett… a joke is a joke…. so stop or I will complain again ok….

eh?
Phool.whore@idiotnews.com
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July 4, 2012 7:42pm
big bruv

Ok Steve

I take your point. I just wish the other buggers who claim to be me would stop doing it.
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July 4, 2012 7:44pm
Steve (North Shore)

Just a shame that Phillip Ure will not answer questions and expects others to answer.
He does however give his distorted opinion always
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July 4, 2012 7:45pm
Steve (North Shore)

That was not me big bruv. I think Phool is imitating me.
Imposter has many tricks other than two Driver Licenses
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July 4, 2012 7:49pm
big bruv

Where are Phools pals Edna and Tipeytoes?
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July 4, 2012 7:50pm
Steve (North Shore)

DPF warned me about trolling, so I’ not going to troll anymore about the drug fucked train wreck that is soon to be gone for 8 months.
So I can’t troll, lest demerits, and that would be a shame for helping to rid this Blog of a parasite
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July 4, 2012 7:55pm
nasska

SOUTH AUCKLAND NCEA MATHS PROFICIENCY EXAM

1. John has 2 ounces of dope. If he sells a baggie to Hone for $50 and 2 bullets to Tracey for $25 per bullet, what is the street value of the rest of his stash?

2. Rangi pimps 3 girls. If the price is $85 per trick, how many tricks per day must each pro turn to support Rangi’s $800 per day P habit?

3. Willie gets $200 for a stolen BMW, $150 for stealing a Skyline, and $100 for a 4×4. If he steals 1 BMW, 2 Skylines and 3 4×4’s, how many more Skylines must he have to steal to have $900?

4. Wiremu got 12 years for murder. He also got $25,000 for the hit. If his defacto wife spends $250 per month, how much money will be left when he gets out? Extra credit bonus: How much more time will he get for killing the pro who spent his money?

6. If an average can of spray paint covers 2 square metres and the average letter is a quarter of a square metre, how many letters can be sprayed with three 250gram cans of spray paint with 20% paint free?

7. Henare got 3 girls in the gang pregnant. There are 27 girls in his gang. What is the exact percentage of girls Henare knocked up?

8. Bernie is a lookout for the gang. Bernie has a pitbull that eats 3 small cats per week at a cost of $15 per cat. If Bernie makes $700 a week as a lookout, how many weeks can he feed the dog on one week’s income?

9. Billy steals Joe’s skateboard. As Billy skates away at 25 kph, Joe loads his sawnoff shottie. If it takes Joe 15 seconds to load his gun, how far away will Billy be when he gets whacked?
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July 4, 2012 8:00pm
Steve (North Shore)

“Where are Phools pals Edna and Tipeytoes?” asks big bruv,

At the greenies co-op takeaways of course. I trade 5 bags of lemons for 1 small bag of that stuff over there out the back
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July 4, 2012 8:11pm
Steve (North Shore)

http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/my-family-s-blood-has-been-spilt-1.1325272
Pick the shit out of that Phool
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July 4, 2012 8:35pm
Leaping Jimmy

There is still no explanation for the Blessed Silence… eh?

David there’s no point in pretending anymore. You’re really phil, aren’t you.

What put me on to it is that you and phil never ever post at the same time, ever. It’s always a minute or more apart. I timed it over a series of yours and phils posts and while I couldn’t replicate it myself, I think you either have your ~~phil’s~~ son help you out when it all gets a bit intense between you and you -or- you use more than one computer at the library and sort of line all the comments up in advance. It has to be one or the other and there doesn’t seem to be a third alternative.

So what say you David, are you really phil, or what. whoar eh…?
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July 4, 2012 8:35pm
mikenmild

No, Leaping Jimmy is definitely a pseudonym for the mastermind who is also philu, David Garrett, Redbaiter and big bruv.
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July 4, 2012 8:38pm
nasska

By joves LJ….I think you’ve solved the mystery! All this time the facts have been staring us in the eye yet only now does the penny drop.

Top work!
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July 4, 2012 8:41pm
Steve (North Shore)

I like that Mike. You are with it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhrfhjLd9e4
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July 4, 2012 8:46pm
Pete George

To all of you who are too thick to understand the Higgs boson, Stuff comes to the rescue.

Picture George Clooney (the particle) walking down a street with a gaggle of photographers (the Higgs field) clustered around him. An average guy on the same street (a photon) gets no attention from the paparazzi and gets on with his day. The Higgs particle is the signature of the field _ an eyelash of one of the photographers.

There seems to be a bit of a typo but apart from that you have no excuse to wonder about it any more.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/science/7218703/God-particle-may-have-been-found-scientists

And in case you want to hear “maybe we found something” many different ways here’s ‘live’ coverage:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/blog/2012/jul/04/higgs-boson-discovered-live-coverage-cern
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July 4, 2012 8:55pm
David Garrett

Steve: If only I knew who they all really were, and where to find them…if I knew that, I’d be off to the Head as fast as…as fast as….as a drug addled train wreck!

Nasska at 8 pm: You are a naughty, naughty man….you do realise that all of this is down to colonization don’t you? (In fact just for once, there is more than a grain of truth in that…I am pretty sure both P and Prostitution were unknown to the tangata whenua)
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July 4, 2012 8:58pm
Steve (North Shore)

This is where your TAX DOLLARS go:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10817427&ref=rss.
Fucking drunken idiots, no mention of dope – like it is Kaitaia
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July 4, 2012 8:58pm
nasska

David Garrett

…”I am pretty sure both P and Prostitution were unknown to the tangata whenua)”…..

There were some fast learners in that lot.
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July 4, 2012 9:03pm
Leaping Jimmy

To all of you who are too thick to understand the Higgs boson, Stuff comes to the rescue.

I assume you saw my 6:16 Pete. But yeah. One notices it was written by one: “MICHELLE COOKE AND REUTERS”

Yeah.

I see.

So out of all the possible analogies one could possibly choose in the entire field of human imagination, both Reuters and Michelle freakin Cooke reckon a Hollywierd-photographer assemblage is the most likely to appeal to people.

I wonder is this because they think other analogies (whatever the fuck that word means) might not be so close to home as some celebrity being pursued down the street by idiots hoping to make $9.95 for snapping a shot of a human being who apparently is just way better than nearly everyone else because he happens to act (or pretend to)?

I’m afraid Pete you’ve just destroyed my last vestige of faith in human civilisation and I’ve just decided we don’t have any, anymore. It’s fucking over, as far as I’m concerned, from here on in. All bets are off and there’s no hope and it’s just not worth it, anymore. I’m calling in the Vogon inter-galactic super-highway construction vessel. They’ve been waiting for ages and I’ve just run out of reasons not to.

Goodbye everyone, I’d like to say it’s been fun, but it hasn’t. I just hope the Higgs Boson isn’t the end of the experiment, otherwise we’re just going to have to start it all over again, again. Won’t that be fun. Let’s hope Deep Thought doesn’t feel the need to regenerate Michelle Cooke and Reuters next time.
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July 4, 2012 9:10pm
Pete George

Come on people, Peter Higgs is crying with joy and you’re not even interested?

@manlius84
Peter #Higgs is crying… it’s a great day for physics. I am proud of being a physician :°)

Higgs: “For me it’s a really incredible thing that it’s happened in my lifetime,” he said, giving his congratulations to everyone involved in what he described as a “tremendous achievement”.
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July 4, 2012 9:10pm
Pete George

Sorry I missed the 6.16 – that sounds bit better than the pap.

Could be too late, looks like Jimmy may have had a higgsy fit.
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July 4, 2012 9:14pm
kowtow

People,seriously,higs polson etc are you kidding?

Last night the country could have ripped apart and we still don’t understnd shit all about how plate tectonics really work.

Thats what we need to understand.
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July 4, 2012 9:18pm
David Garrett

kowtow: We could understand everything about how plate tectonics work, and there still isnt a damn thing we can do about it…a bit like climate change and living in NZ…
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July 4, 2012 9:20pm
Leaping Jimmy

@ 6:16 was a good explanation of Higgs Boson using everyday language so no-one gets a furrowed brow Pete. And it wasn’t dumbed down.

Honestly, what do journos think we are. Do they have special courses in journalism school where they learn all about how mental the public is and how “the public” won’t understand the simplest things so you need to really talk to them as if they’re 10 year old children, and particularly dim children at that? Is that what all modern journalism is?

It’s just I rarely find myself listening to news shows which show an appreciation of their audience, which is a shame, for it they did show that, I imagine their ratings would shoot through the roof and the hosts would quickly find themselves being swamped by papparazi they would be so very popular. Isn’t that ironic.

Last night the country could have ripped apart and we still don’t understnd shit all about how plate tectonics really work. Thats what we need to understand.

What we need to understand is how those lotto balls work, then we don’t care if there’s an earthquake.
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July 4, 2012 9:22pm
Pauleastbay

It was god kowtow what more do you need to understand? its pre-ordained, its his will. Our destiny is known, only the foolish would try to use science to delve into his will – FFS man sharpen up
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July 4, 2012 9:25pm
Johnboy

Made it all simple for me Jimmy.

It’s obvious that the original David Garrett was actually a Mr. Higgs and having flashed across the Large Kiwiblog detector at near light speed instantly disintegrated into all the broken down quarks that are claiming to be him.

Jeeze science is wonderful. Only religion beats it for entertainment value! 🙂
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July 4, 2012 9:30pm
Keeping Stock

Steve said

Just a shame that Phillip Ure will not answer questions and expects others to answer.
He does however give his distorted opinion always

Quite so Steve. I’ve been asking for several days so far for Phil to show us the evidence that David Garrett is posting here using multiple identities. He hasn’t put up, so perhaps it’s time for the Kiwiblog community (including all the David Garretts) to encourage him to shut up. It’s certainly yet another blank that he’s fired.
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July 4, 2012 9:37pm
Leaping Jimmy

Our destiny is known

Yes it is, but we don’t know it, do we.

only the foolish would try to use science to delve into his will

Not sure where you get that idea from Paul, but seems rather naive. Anyhoo, the important thing is, we’re talking about OUR will and God has given us free will to do whatever we wish to. Anything and everything is in our grasp. Sure, we get judged at the end. But we have a manual, telling us the game rules and how to play. Some never even bother reading it. Aren’t they just great big sillies. But the key part is Paul, God is with us, He loves us and He wants us to win. Life is OUR life through His grace. He doesn’t control us. We are free to ignore His grace. We suffer when we do, whether or not we recognise that until it’s all over and the tally is being counted.

Only the foolish would ignore delving into all of that, when determining their course and their direction and the wonderful thing is, you can change at any time, no matter what you’ve done.
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July 4, 2012 9:39pm
Pauleastbay

Reid

The swooshing noise going over your head mate just ignore it OK
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July 4, 2012 9:43pm
Leaping Jimmy

Paul it’s like advertising, you never know who might be reading.

On the Higgs boson topic tonight, some people seem to think religion and science oppose each other, they don’t. I’ve never really got why some people think that. God is not called The Great Architect for no reason.
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July 4, 2012 9:53pm
Pauleastbay

Reid
I can assure you they are not out to get you, just yet anyway
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July 4, 2012 9:56pm
David Garrett

KS: Yes…but how many of us have been deeply and perhaps irreparably damaged by his detailed account of exactly HOW he fires those blanks….fuck he must have had a few cones tonight to have kept silent!

That BOP stack is still creaking and groaning…seriously guys, that is one erie experience…knowing that 20,000 psi is effectively being held back by gaskets…a chain only as strong as its weakest link and all that….

I had hoped my 13th alter ego Mr Nui would be here tonight to share some “scary kick” stories, but he is obviously employed elsewhere….

“employed”…that word will scare the bastard off if his fingers are hovering over the keyboard…
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July 4, 2012 9:58pm
kowtow

dg
if we understood plate tecs a bit better ,we could have a building code that reflected that.Less brick,more wood for example for starters.

Too bad we built our cities on faults or volcanic fields…….

Did you know it’s only in the last 60 years or so we have begun to really understand the plates?
we can thank the cold war and the subs mapping of the sea bed.
so a science that is in it’s infancy is the one that is most important to NZ,and indeed the rest of the world.
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July 4, 2012 10:05pm
Fletch

@ 6:16 was a good explanation of Higgs Boson using everyday language so no-one gets a furrowed brow Pete. And it wasn’t dumbed down.

Won’t play for me.
I get the message “Sorry about this. Your video could not be displayed. Please try again later”

Got my Flash player up to date etc, so I dunno…
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July 4, 2012 10:15pm
mikenmild

When I think about it, earthquakes aren’t nearly so worrying as irreversible human damage. Natural disasters, even the most devastating earthquakes, are still quite limited in scale compared to the effects of war, politics, depletion of resources, pollution etc.
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July 4, 2012 10:21pm
Fletch

OK, I managed to view the Higgs Boson video by opening it in another browser 🙂
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July 4, 2012 10:30pm
Leaping Jimmy

OK, I managed to view the Higgs Boson video by opening it in another browser

Those bastards, Fletch. Let’s hope something or other will happen sometime so they get learned and it never happens again, ever, to anyone, at all.
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July 4, 2012 10:46pm
Fletch

LJ, yeh, I wouldn’t want to end up being ignorant 😉
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July 4, 2012 10:49pm
cha

People,seriously,higs polson etc are you kidding?

Last night the country could have ripped apart and we still don’t understnd shit all about how plate tectonics really work.

Thats what we need to understand.

See, we do agree.
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July 4, 2012 11:17pm
Manolo

As expected: the socialists raise taxes in Frogland: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/04/us-france-budget-idUSBRE86307X20120704
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