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graham

Nasska and DG: It’s that time of the year, what with the miserable weather. We had some friends around on the weekend, and they helped us devour the hind leg of one of my well-cared-for animals. Along with roast potatoes, kumara, veges, mint sauce … mmmmm.

(And just to p!ss off some of ya – yes we said grace before partaking).

On another note – how many clones have you supposedly made of yourself David? It occurred to me, you should total up all the comments all those mini-DGs have made and see if you break the Kiwiblog record for most prolific commenter!
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July 3, 2012 7:24pm
David Garrett

Mikey: Not sure of the details…in any event, the phool will be shitting himself..imagine, that in just one week…you got banned from the only forum in which you could share your …ah…”views” with the rest of the world…and that same week the authorities moved to shut off the income that allowed that? Nightmare stuff….eh?
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July 3, 2012 7:24pm
mikenmild

I’m sure he will cope, maybe ramp up the income from the ‘news-aggregation’ site…eh…?
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July 3, 2012 7:27pm
nasska

graham

…”(And just to p!ss off some of ya – yes we said grace before partaking).”…..

Whatever makes your balls bounce…..fill ya boots! 🙂
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July 3, 2012 7:34pm
Steve (North Shore)

Mike,
Man what a problem the aggegators has. How to do nothing when you do nothing anyway. Oh I know, smoke more dak, that will fix everything
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July 3, 2012 7:35pm
Lucia Maria

Steve,

LongKnives has taken over the job of converting you all for now. You’ll have to ask him.
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July 3, 2012 7:45pm
mikenmild

Jesus was gay. Just saying.
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July 3, 2012 7:46pm
Lucia Maria

Mikenmild,

No, He wasn’t.
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July 3, 2012 7:55pm
Don the Kiwi

“big bruv (10,407) Says:

July 3rd, 2012 at 5:39 pm
Oh Poor old Don the Kiwi.

I suspect that Don is at least four of the following.

1 An All Black fan.
2 A Catholic
3 A sheep shagging Cantab.
4 A middle aged male living alone in a damp Chch council flat with naughty thoughts of Lucia Maria going through his head.
5 Stupid. ”

You must be Irish big bruv.
Can’t count past 5.
1 & 2 correct, wrong on all other counts

Making wild, and in a couple of cases, abusive guesses about me only proves my point.

Sadly, I am now too old to do what 20 years ago I would have had the ability and the inclination to do – to step you out and ram your teeth so far down your throat you’d need to stick a toothbrush up your arse to clean them.
But we all mellow with age.

BTW, I live in Tauranga if that helps, and I’m a semi-retired builder – happily married to a lovely lady, three kids and seven grandchildren.

Now lets see what sort of abuse you can concoct from that.
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July 3, 2012 7:56pm
Leaping Jimmy

Sam Walton’s heirs own about half of Walmart’s stock and have a net worth equal to the combined assets of the bottom one-third of Americans — about 100 million people. This year alone, the Waltons will pocket $2.7 billion in dividends from their Walmart holdings.

V good article on Walmart and what it’s done and continues to do.

http://www.otherwords.org/articles/50_years_of_gutting_americas_middle_class

Of course The Warehouse has done its thing here too, in every small town. You don’t notice it in places like Akld, but it does it there as well. The interesting part about the model, as the article explains, it’s like a vice, so as things get worse, with more and more businesses and peripheral businesses closing, more and more people depend on buying from it because of its cheap prices.

The thing I don’t get is, that if Walmart has done this in the homeland of capitalism, and that if people hold up Walmart as the epitomy of the free-market, then what does this say about the perspicacity of those of us who think the only thing with capitalism is that it’s not done often enough and hard enough in enough places and the world would be much better if we just did it more, period?

Wouldn’t it be amazing to get 2.7 billion in dividends? I mean, I fantasize about winning big Wednesday @ 10m and telling the boss to go to hell and making my loved ones happy and still having enough money invested to get a $250k income for the rest of my life. As my brother tells me, the definition of rich is one can live off the interest on your interest. I wonder if 2.7b in dividends qualifies.
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July 3, 2012 7:59pm
Steve (North Shore)

Longknives is more interested in converting currency, not fairy tales Lucia
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July 3, 2012 7:59pm
mikenmild

Lucia
Oh yes he was.
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July 3, 2012 8:00pm
nasska

A politician hurries into the hospital outpatients late one night
with the tip of her index finger shot off. “How did this happen?”
the A & E doctor asked her.

“Well, I was trying to commit suicide,” the politician replied.

“What?” sputtered the doctor? “You tried to commit suicide
by shooting your finger off?”

“No, Silly!” the politician said. “First I put the gun to my chest,
and I thought: I just paid $3,000.00 for these breast implants,
I’m not shooting myself in the chest.”

“So then?” asked the doctor.

“Then I put the gun in my mouth, and I thought: I just paid $4000.00
to get my teeth straightened, I’m not shooting myself in the mouth.”

“So then?” “Then I put the gun to my ear, and I thought: This
is going to make a loud noise. So I put my finger in the other
ear before I pulled the trigger.”
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July 3, 2012 8:00pm
Longknives

Lucia- I’m not trying to convert anyone. I was just trying to stand up for us much-maligned Catholics with a few positives for a change!

Mikenmild- Do you openly mock Maori spiritual beliefs? At Powhiri etc? Thought not…Open season on Jesus though…
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July 3, 2012 8:02pm
Steve (North Shore)

Not clear nasska 🙂
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July 3, 2012 8:05pm
nasska

LJ

Walmart have used their buying power to influence wages as well. If they are the only game in town there’s little employees can do to influence the downward pressure on their wages.

Walmart have been instrumental in driving manufacturing offshore as well. Capitalism without viable competition benefits the few.
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July 3, 2012 8:10pm
mikenmild

I’m not mocking anyone’s beliefs, That would be most disrespectful. I’m just pointing out that Jesus was gay, that’s all.
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July 3, 2012 8:10pm
Pete George

Don the Kiwi – it’s good to see some ordinary life family stuff, put’s a more human slant on the blog – and it can help humanise discussion too knowing more than a few onscreen words.

I live at a different end of the country (I have an aunt in Tauranga) and am not a Catholic but probably have many more similarities than differences overall. Yep, I’m an All Black fan, am married to a lovely lady, may be in the same age vicinity, and have six grandchildren (some step).

I think Christian and non-Christian alike have a responsibility to respect each other’s beliefs or non-beliefs. Most of us get on pretty well in real life, we should be able to find a way to do that on blogs as well.
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July 3, 2012 8:16pm
Steve (North Shore)

Um Pete,
The religious nutbars can do whatever they want until they decide I can’t use a condom. then they can fuck off.
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July 3, 2012 8:20pm
mikenmild

Put a condom on your nutbar???
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July 3, 2012 8:22pm
Sofia

Microsoft has officially come out in support of two pieces of legislation that would legalize same-sex marriage in Washington state.
Microsoft, which is headquartered in Redmond, Washington, explained its support by saying that discrimination of any kind lowers the quality of employees that the company is able to hire. A statement on The Official Microsoft Blog titled “Marriage Equality in Washington State Would Be Good for Business” reads in part:
“Marriage equality in Washington would put employers here on an equal footing with employers in the six other states that already recognize the committed relationships of same-sex couples – Connecticut, Iowa, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New York and Vermont. This in turn will help us continue to compete for talent.”
– http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/21/microsoft-gay-marriage_n_1220800.html
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July 3, 2012 8:22pm
Keeping Stock

Phil; we’re all still waiting for you to produce the evidence that David Garrett comments here under multiple aliases. We know that you wouldn’t lie about something like this, so put up; or shut up.

In the meantime, do you here that sound? It’s like waves breaking gently on the shore as the tide goes out. It’s the sound of your credibility slowly ebbing away…
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July 3, 2012 8:23pm
big bruv

Don the Kiwi showing the legendary tolerance of the Catholic faith and their propensity toward violence.
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July 3, 2012 8:23pm
cha

# LJ.

http://www.winningwordsproject.com/walmart_is_the_largest_food_stamp_recipient_in_the_country
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July 3, 2012 8:25pm
Steve (North Shore)

Keeping Stock.

Mr Ure is probably going over all of the imposters today to see who is David Garrett. The real David Garret is laughing his tits off.
The real Phool is priming up ‘princetipytoes’ aka miniphool for an attack.
Such a sad worker is Phool, to do all of this for the blogosphere of NZ and only get the lousy DPB. Yet he does it every day without fail. Something makes him work hard at this, it is not cannabis, that will make you slow as a wet week.
Another drug keeps him going. Datura that tea tree? Mushrooms?
ALCAHOL !!!! the maggott is an alcahol addict in denial, that’s why he picks on those who like a drink
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July 3, 2012 8:36pm
Leaping Jimmy

Odious debt. Used by the US in 2003 to pretend Russia and France’s debts to Iraq didn’t need to be paid back by Iraq after it had invaded Iraq. Also in the 1898 Cuban annexation. But hang on. Does this mean that Greece doesn’t need to pay Wall Street/The City? Surely not.

Scroll forward to 32:00 unless you want a whole lot of Greek intro.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKpxPo-lInk
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July 3, 2012 8:47pm
Viking2

and Mary caught some of Phils. splutter and had a quiet play by herself.

Created that new thing that is marketed as “Ejaculate deception.”
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July 3, 2012 8:49pm
nasska

Steve (North Shore)

What amazes me is that the confused one brought the entire thing down on himself. Right from the time that DG started commenting regularly on these threads the ellipsiatarian has been using his strange rules of grammar to taunt him. Given that DG is not exactly inexperienced in verbal or written street fighting tactics how the Hell was the present situation not easily foreseeable?

It’ll end badly.
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July 3, 2012 8:51pm
Steve (North Shore)

And now for something entirely different
http://www.memehumor.com/index.php/demotivator/fa-18-fighter/
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July 3, 2012 8:53pm
Don the Kiwi

Pete George.
8.16 pm.

Thanks Pete. The majority of my mates aren’t Catholic either, but we enjoy eachothers compnay, a few beers, a lot of good natured banter – religious or other wise. What gets really up my wick is continuous and negative abusive bashing against people who simply express their POV on a religous – or any other topic, whether it be agreement or disagreement, and then descend into ad homs.
Kia kaha Pete,.

bruv. 8.23 pm.
There comes a time when things have to be defended against unwarranted agression – whether physically, psychologically or verbally.
You simply strike me as a bully – I think my treatment of bullies is par for the course. Violence, in this case, would be a plus.

However, I could be wrong.
Why don’t you prove me wrong by dropping off the abuse – no-one minds banter or vigorous disagreement, its all about discussion and …..what is it…….debate.
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July 3, 2012 8:54pm
Steve (North Shore)

Phool – where are you, you fucking sook.

Come defend yourself, you and princetippytoes. 8 months is hunting/haunting you, and you will deserve every fucking second of those coming 8 months

[DPF: You are trolling. Demerits in future]
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July 3, 2012 8:57pm
big bruv

Don the Kiwi

There also comes a time when one has to defend themselves against bigots.

It never ceases to amaze me how society gives blatant bigots a free pass simply because the play the religion card.

My point remains, you are free to believe what ever you want to believe, you can worship a bloody tin can for all I care but please do not expect, or demand, that I live my life by the religious rules you people choose to live yours by.

You may also note Don that unlike your precious Lucia I did not go running off to the headmaster when you threatened me with violence, this place can be a bit rough at times and most of us can handle what we dish out.

(The real David Garrett)
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July 3, 2012 9:06pm
Leaping Jimmy

Thanks nasska and cha. You both raise v good points. Is it wise to question this model? I wonder what would happen in NZ if we told Tindall to pack up and bugger off?

Would we be better off, overall?
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July 3, 2012 9:06pm
Viking2

Those Considerate Compassionate Christians again.

Teacher sacked over pregnancy
May 1, 2012

Melinda Saunders has come out to support a kindy teacher at Caloundra Christian College who is going to lose her job because she had fallen pregnant without being married.

Melinda Saunders has come out to support a kindy teacher at Caloundra Christian College who is going to lose her job because she had fallen pregnant without being married. Photo: Cade Mooney, Sunshine Coast Daily

A pregnant and unmarried teacher at a Sunshine Coast Christian college claims she has been sacked for breaking the “lifestyle agreement” part of her contract by having a child out of wedlock.

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/teacher-sacked-over-pregnancy-20120501-1xw79.html#ixzz1zY7fhOs3
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July 3, 2012 9:18pm
nasska

LJ

I’ll be very surprised if the Warehouse capture any more market share. They face fairly stiff competition in most cities now, eg Postie Plus, Briscoes, Mitre 10 Mega. In fact, I think their star may waning right now.

IMHO NZ retail is about spot on as it is…..enough competition to keep pricing competitive but still returning sufficient profit to be viable.
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July 3, 2012 9:18pm
Steve (North Shore)

The whore site or blog (if you can call it that) is just a PROSTITUTE place.
Best of today – haha, best prostitute shits on Kiwiblog and then cowers after he is called out.
How many people post under the name ‘David Garrett’? I would say one, but after many having fun.
The reason they had fun by claiming the ‘David Garrett’ name is that they all know about Phool’s insecurity. He is a nothing, he is a drug fucked train wreck, a wanker, a liar, a loser.
And worst of all he is a fucking GREENIE!!!!!
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July 3, 2012 9:28pm
Steve (North Shore)

Phool, ek is honger
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July 3, 2012 9:28pm
Andrei

Those Considerate Compassionate ~~Christians~~ atheists again.

For more than a year, Prudhomme’s Lost Cajun Kitchen in Columbia, Lancaster County has offered a Sunday special: Diners who bring in a current church bulletin receive 10 percent off the purchase of their dinners.

But, the promotion has rubbed some people the wrong way, including John Wolff of Manheim Twp., Lancaster County, an atheist and member of the Freedom From Religion Foundation.

Wolff, who said he’s never been to Prudhomme’s, recently filed a complaint with the Pennsylvania Human Relations Commission claiming the 22-year-old restaurant should not give discounts based on religion. “I bear them no ill will but they shouldn’t be pushing religion,” Wolff, 80, said

What makes me laugh is

He said came across Prudhomme’s bulletin promotion while doing an Internet search of the restaurant, which he had heard good things about. But, he said the restaurant’s discount for church-goers annoyed him. “My interest is in social justice and tolerance, and I get a little annoyed at all the religiosity,” he said.

Interested in tolerance – huh?
http://mobile.pennlive.com/advpenn/db_/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=qGbllnZt&full=true#display
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July 3, 2012 9:33pm
Johnboy

From Stuff.

“Police have named the two men who suffered serious burns after an LPG bottle they were allegedly sniffing yesterday ignited, setting the boys’ clothing on fire.”

What Uni do their “Journalists” graduate from? 🙂
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July 3, 2012 9:37pm
nasska

Johnboy

Waikato?
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July 3, 2012 9:40pm
Steve (North Shore)

Waikato Uni needs more funding to stop this post Colonisation behaviour. Sniffing gas is whities fault, just ask John Hatfield.
Btw you seen the size of those amulets bro?
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July 3, 2012 9:52pm
RightNow

342nd
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July 3, 2012 10:13pm
Johnboy

Wonder if Milkey spotted the Lion Brown results? 🙂
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July 3, 2012 10:14pm
Leaping Jimmy

Seriously though its called huffing according to the media. You just know when it gets a name like that some serious criminal brains are involved.

But man. What have we come to, we have kids who should be in the 6th and 7th form getting hold of a gas bottle and sniffing it. And you know what they’re doing right. Mouth over the outlet. Turn the tap. Take a huge lungfull of what – LPG? Hold it. Exhale.

Hur hur. Chortle chortle. While other kids their age sit in school and learn about bio and chem and math.

Sad isn’t the word. It would be understandable if we had thousands of people/sq km and no schools except for 5% of the richest population and most people lived in corrugated shacks and died when they were 45-50, tops. You could understand this, if we had that.

WTF is wrong with us, that we put up with this shit, in this country, when all those dudes needed, was some decent fucking parents and role models. And if they didn’t get it from people who were borne into that role, that they got it from a system that gave a fuck enough to look at them when they were 5, 6, 7 and 8 and made sure they stayed on track and when they started straying at 9 and 10 it stepped in and kicked arse and took names and said fuck you, to the do gooders who said: don’t interfere.

WTF is wrong with us as a species that we can do all sorts of other shit, but we can’t even consistently bring up kids with love notwithstanding love is free, costs nothing? That used to be the basics. Now, it seems, it’s advanced rocket science 901, albeit we have plenty of game boys we can apparently lend out for free, if anyone needs a babysitter, complete with wholesome role models on how to become a real good member of this here human race.
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July 3, 2012 10:16pm
RightNow

Actually LJ I think we have more people than ever before slipping through the natural selection filter
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July 3, 2012 10:18pm
Johnboy

Most of us do manage to do that Jimmy.
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July 3, 2012 10:19pm
Leaping Jimmy

I know most of us avoid it, it’s how we let those who lead their kids into it, do it so easily.

And many of those who do it, don’t set out to do it on purpose, I mean, who would set out to have their son or daughter in that situation. No-one. But it happens, to increasing numbers.

And we aren’t stepping in, because of why? Because it’s too impolite?

Lots of reasons, but really, none of them complex really are they. All of them boil down to a lack of bureaucratic balls to stand in and say, enough, no more, not acceptable, won’t happen.

Hell identifying these kids isn’t hard. Most of us could name the schools to watch, the streets, even the families. And yet it still happens.
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July 3, 2012 10:39pm
HB

just felt a biggish earthquake in Hastings but Geonet has crashed with the ‘felt it’ reporting so I don’t know where it was centred.
Anyone know what is going on?
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July 3, 2012 10:46pm
bhudson

That was a long shake in Wellington city
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July 3, 2012 10:46pm
Lindsay Addie

Public Id: 2012p498491
NZST: Tuesday, July 3 2012 at 10:36:12 pm
Intensity: moderate
Depth: 257 km
Magnitude: 6.5
Location: 60 km south-west of Opunake

Big bugger, thank goodness it was very deep…..
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July 3, 2012 10:48pm
wreck1080

huge quake, i wonder if te-papa has slipped into the harbor.

stuff site down….

Bad….
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July 3, 2012 10:48pm
Leaping Jimmy

Yes it was – round 30-45 secs, long but mild but short 10 sec peak in the middle
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July 3, 2012 10:48pm
HB

yeah, I always worry when i feel a quake that it might be really big somewhere else 🙁
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July 3, 2012 10:53pm
HB

geonet saying it was 7.0 at the moment
http://www.geonet.org.nz/earthquake/quakes/3732830g-maps.html
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July 3, 2012 10:57pm
wreck1080

quake upgraded to 7.0….. no reports of damage
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July 3, 2012 10:58pm
Lazybum

Bugger, Wellington still exists.
No doubt the Greens will want a commission of inquirey into tonight’s quake. No doubt some petrochem company was fracking somewhere off the coast of Taranaki.
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July 3, 2012 10:58pm
krazykiwi

no reports of damage…

… but a bunch of fish were seriously inconvenienced
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July 3, 2012 11:01pm
Lazybum

Auckland next, then we know the ring of fire is on fire. Maybe 22 Dec 2012 will come to frutition, lol.
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July 3, 2012 11:09pm
Elaycee

An earthquake in Tokyo today too – around 2.30pm NZT. The immediate reports said it was 5.4 on the Richter Scale and the centre was 100kms down in Tokyo Bay. It really rocked the building I was in and it fair gave me the shits! Even the locals were crapping themselves.

Looks like there is considerable seismic activity on the ‘ring of fire’…..
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July 3, 2012 11:11pm
HB

how come geonets beta site says 6.5?
http://beta.geonet.org.nz/quakes/region/newzealand/2012p498491

while there usual site says it was 7.0?

ETA: actually it looks like the beta site is using older info
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July 3, 2012 11:12pm
krazykiwi

looks like there is considerable seismic activity on the ‘ring of fire’

Yup, which is why I’m amazed at the naivety of those who claim, by way of tidal measures, that islands are disappearing due to ‘rising sea levels’. The land on which we live isn’t connected to a solid sphere… we’re floating, and moving, and parts of the crust are moving up while others parts are moving down as the plates battle it out. Just like they always have.
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July 3, 2012 11:13pm
thedavincimode

LJ

The reality is that an unfortunately high proportion of our society are at best trailer trash and at worst animals. You can blame that on a combination of politics, technology, welfarism and the sixties.
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