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kowtow

other andy @ 707

You clearly haven’t got the memo yet.

It’s called equality.

Everything else is discrimination.

Discrimination is a crime.

Anyone who does not agree with “equality” is potentially a criminal.

Where will it end?

With sharia.

And these idiots opened the gates,
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July 2, 2012 7:44pm
wiseowl

Come to think of it I had an export enquiry for 20,000 bottles of wine a month.No one can deliver.
That would put the price up if it was fulfilled.
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July 2, 2012 7:49pm
Other_Andy

@kowtow

I have got the memo.

Equality it is.
If it itches scratch it.
Everything goes.
If it feels good and it doesn’t hurt anybody (Except those dumb, ill-informed, brainwashed, knuckle-dragging Christian hicks and bigots but they don’t count) you can do it.
Everything else is bigotry.
Feels liberating!

I am sure all the gay activists and progressives will support me.
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July 2, 2012 7:53pm
Leaping Jimmy

just like I know that you and Leaping Jimmy aren’t the same person

Ah but we are Lucia.

Phil doesn’t know this yet but he will, one day. We are all part of the great conservative cosmic oneness where the Gweens are mental and the conservatives are heroic, valiant creatures full of vigour and goodness and might.

Where there is no AGW, no beneficiaries, no state asset ownership, no dole and no bludgers and yet, where everyone is rich, healthy and happy. A world where whoar never even existed.

This is the unity that phil and I (well, me really) has to bring to pass and if it means that phil has to be crushed like a tiny insignificant insect then, hey, that’s his fault, for not getting with the program. I mean I put the ads up ages ago, so I can’t see how he can possibly blame me for what happens next and I think any court in the land will agree. In fact, I’m relying on it.
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July 2, 2012 7:58pm
nasska

An Irishman’s been at a pub all night drinking. The bartender
finally says that the bar is closed. So he stands up to leave
and falls flat on his face.
He figures he’ll crawl outside and get some fresh air and
maybe that will sober him up enough.

Once outside he stands up and falls flat on his face. So he
crawls home and at the door stands up and falls flat on his face.
He crawls through the door and up the stairs.

When he reaches his bed he tries one more time to stand up.
This time he falls right into bed and is sound asleep.

He awakens the next morning to his wife standing over him
shouting at him. “So, you’ve been out drinking again!!”

“How did you know?” he asks.

“The pub called, you left your wheelchair there again.”
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July 2, 2012 8:00pm
philu

do you not know hudson..that garrett posts here using multiple personalities..?

..right now is also one of them..

..that is a fact..that multiple-personaly posting.

..believe it or not..meh..?

.(and i am bored with all of them..

phillip ure whoar.co.nz
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July 2, 2012 8:00pm
philu

“..I’d suggest that you stop looking at porn…”

haven’t looked at porn in yrs…boring..

..but i am handicapped/blessed with a vivid enough imagination..

phillip ure whoar.co.nz
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July 2, 2012 8:03pm
nasska

LJ

I hope you ran all this past Yahweh first!
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July 2, 2012 8:05pm
Harriet

I practice what I preach.

I do try not to offend others. I don’t say that people should not be homosexual if they wish too be.I have not said that we shouldn’t address the matter of dying with dignity.

As a Catholic, yes, I’d prefer that people die of their illness or injury, but, I can see where people who have very debilitating illnesses are coming from when they say they wish to die.

But yes, I will debate and argue rather harshly at times when people use ’emotional’ battering to win debate, be it Gay Marriage, abortion, the security of Israel or any other matter of importance.That is not how you win debate.It is not even part of debate.It is verbal assualt.People leave Marriages because of it. Schools too.Other victims of it commit suicide.
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July 2, 2012 8:06pm
bhudson

..that is a fact..that multiple-personaly posting.

How can you be sure Phil? Have you heard them speaking?
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July 2, 2012 8:06pm
philu

you really are a weird little man..aren’t you reid/twitchy..?

phillip ure whoar.co.nz
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July 2, 2012 8:08pm
RightNow

I speak to him in the middle of the night bhudson, haunting his dreams.
“Phil, Phil, Big thick Dill, why didn’t your mum go on the Pill?” I say, night after night.
Sometimes he has nocturnal emissions. I haven’t figured out if that’s because I mention big thick dill, or his mum.
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July 2, 2012 8:09pm
Leaping Jimmy

do you not know hudson..that garrett posts here using multiple personalities..?

phil is it possible to lay out the deductive/inductive/a priori and a posteriori lines of reasoning which has lead you to this conclusion for each “alias?”

It’s not that I’m skeptical, it’s just that I prefer actual evidence, and before you give us the physical stuff which compels you toward this conclusion, it would be good to get the preliminaries out of the way first, re: the reasoning process, preferably involving your mathematical equations, as well.

The floor is yours phil, I can’t speak for anyone else, but I’m listening with all ears, while my wife talks incessantly to me about some other crap and the telly plays in the background. But go ahead, you have as much attention as you’ll ever have, from me.

…
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July 2, 2012 8:10pm
bhudson

..but i am handicapped/blessed with a vivid enough imagination..

Pass the secret on to Shane Jones – you’ll save the taxpayer some money!
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July 2, 2012 8:11pm
big bruv

“As a Catholic, yes, I’d prefer that people die of their illness or injury”

You would prefer to see them suffer just so your stupid religious beliefs are not offended.

How fucked up is that?
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July 2, 2012 8:14pm
Other_Andy

Come on Harriet lighten up!
All the hip and cool people like diversity, gay marriage and sleep with another partner (Be careful, husband or wife is not inclusive and therefor discriminatory.) every other year.
Katie Holmes, Russell Brand, Cindy Lauper, Hillary Clinton and George Clooney.
Join the cool club Harriet!
Think diversity.
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July 2, 2012 8:17pm
Harriet

“….As a Catholic, yes, I’d prefer that people die of their illness or injury”

You would prefer to see them suffer just so your stupid religious beliefs are not offended.

How fucked up is that?…..”

Suffering is subjective.Ask any of the doctors who have opinions on dying with dignity.
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July 2, 2012 8:22pm
Keeping Stock

do you not know hudson..that garrett posts here using multiple personalities..?

..right now is also one of them..

..that is a fact..that multiple-personaly posting.

Put up or shut up Phil. Where’s the evidence?
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July 2, 2012 8:25pm
Lucia Maria

There’s a lot to be learned in suffering while alive. It’s far worse once you are dead if you try to cheat.
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July 2, 2012 8:25pm
Pete George

There’s a lot to be learned in suffering while alive. It’s far worse once you are dead if you try to cheat.

Very sad. (That people still think this way).

Coercing people to accept suffering now, with some airy fairy promise of avoiding suffering once you’re pushing up daisies is a pretty horrendous sort of emotional blackmail.
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July 2, 2012 8:34pm
big bruv

Lucia

“There’s a lot to be learned in suffering while alive. It’s far worse once you are dead if you try to cheat.”

Do you really believe that or are you just trolling?

Considering that you are bat shit crazy I will assume that you are serious, given that, how about I pop over with some six inch nails, I will hammer the things through your knee caps and you can then sit back at tell me how much you are “learning” whilst you suffer.

[DPF: 30 demerits. That goes beyond acceptable speech]
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July 2, 2012 8:36pm
kowtow

nasska walks into a pub and slips on a piece of shit on the floor.

picks himself up,looks around a bit embarrased ,as you do,goes to the bar an gets a drink.

a few minutes later another guy walks in,slips on the same piece of shit.

nasska ,pointing at the poo says “I did that.”

The guy grabs nasska by the scruff and rubs his nose in the shit.
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July 2, 2012 8:40pm
Leaping Jimmy

There’s a lot to be learned in suffering while alive. It’s far worse once you are dead if you try to cheat.

Yes indeed Lucia, yes indeed, and many people brush this off.

This is one of the most vivid explications of the consequences of sin I personally have ever read. Many people don’t realise what they do. They think it’s OK if they’re a “good” person and they just don’t murder anybody afore they die. Newsflash folks. It takes more than that. It takes acknowledgement of the Saviour. In one’s heart.

http://spiritlessons.com/mary_k_baxter_a_divine_revelation_of_hell.htm
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July 2, 2012 8:41pm
kowtow

I told you it’s all about equality.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2167213/Gay-rights-Could-Partners-gay-knights-dames-given-honorary-title-way-ladies.html
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July 2, 2012 8:42pm
Lucia Maria

Big Bruv,

You seem to be getting more and more disturbed as time goes on.
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July 2, 2012 8:42pm
mikenmild

What if you acknowledge the wrong saviour though?
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July 2, 2012 8:46pm
RightNow

mmm, savioury.
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July 2, 2012 8:49pm
renderer

“There’s a lot to be learned in suffering while alive. It’s far worse once you are dead if you try to cheat.”
Would flagellation help the learnng process?
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July 2, 2012 8:54pm
mikenmild

Anyone for a hair shirt?
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July 2, 2012 8:56pm
Other_Andy

@renderer

“Would flagellation help the learning process?”
Oh yeah…!
Forgot about that one.
The more diversity the merrier.
More, more diversity…..

That reminds me…
A sadist, a masochist, a murderer, a necrophile, bazoophile and a pyromaniac are all sitting on a bench in a mental institution (Sorry, that was when those dumb, ill-informed, brainwashed, knuckle-dragging Christian hicks and bigots were in charge and before it was all considered normal.)

“Let’s have sex with a cat?” asked the zoophile.
“Let’s have sex with the cat and then torture it,” says the sadist.
“Let’s have sex with the cat, torture it and then kill it,” shouted the murderer.
“Let’s have sex with the cat, torture it, kill it and then have sex with it again,” said the necrophile.
“Let’s have sex with the cat, torture it, kill it, have sex with it again and then burn it,” said the pyromaniac.

After a moment of silence the masochist joins in…..
“Meow.”

[DPF: That is funny!]
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July 2, 2012 9:06pm
big bruv

Lucia

It is not me who believes in the sky fairy, it is not me who is going to waste the one life they have.

No Lucia, you are the disturbed one, disturbed and dangerous.
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July 2, 2012 9:06pm
Leaping Jimmy

You might want to look at this as well, since some people only focus on the negative.

http://spiritlessons.com/a_divine_revelation_of_heaven.htm
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July 2, 2012 9:13pm
mikenmild

No, I won’t look at it. No no no.
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July 2, 2012 9:14pm
Lucia Maria

Big Bruv,

… how about I pop over with some six inch nails, I will hammer the things through your knee caps and you can then sit back at tell me how much you are “learning” whilst you suffer.

I’m not the one threatening to do stuff only a psychopath would think of.
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July 2, 2012 9:17pm
mikenmild

Just because Big Bruv is a psychopath doesn’t mean you shouldn’t accept his offer to help you learn.
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July 2, 2012 9:18pm
Lucia Maria

Mikenmild,

I’m sure he’s itching to do worse stuff that that, but it’s best it’s left in his imagination rather than acted out.
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July 2, 2012 9:23pm
thedavincimode

Wow. God’s messengers appear to be on the prowl tonight. And here’s me thinking that the parents of the kids holding those signs were fucked up.

Catholicism: putting the theory of personal torment into practice.
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July 2, 2012 9:26pm
Leaping Jimmy

Wow. God’s messengers appear to be on the prowl tonight.

Well, you guys are all very mistaken dvm, so what else do you expect, ya silly ole heathens?
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July 2, 2012 9:29pm
Fletch

Wow. God’s messengers appear to be on the prowl tonight. And here’s me thinking that the parents of the kids holding those signs were fucked up.

Who is more f*cked up? Someone defending their beliefs, or someone saying they want to nail someone’s kneecaps?
And you’re criticizing the Catholics?
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July 2, 2012 9:40pm
renderer

Hell what happened to the good old christian principle of loving thy neighbour
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July 2, 2012 9:50pm
Keeping Stock

Still waiting for that evidence Phil; put up or shut up mate…
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July 2, 2012 9:53pm
TheContrarian

Wow, a lot of serious bile flowing tonight.

Might go to bed, read some political reporting from H.S.Thompson and generally not threaten violence towards anyone….it’s only Monday after all. Better to save ones viciousness for when one doesn’t have work the next day
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July 2, 2012 10:13pm
thedavincimode

Fletch

If some of the stuff I’ve read here tonight (and indeed previously from the usual suspects) somehow passes for defence of Christianity generally, or Catholicism in particular, then the world is better off without both. I can’t say that I’ve previously joined in the ridicule chorus about those having religious faith that doesn’t withstand any rational scrutiny. If that’s your bag then over to you as far as I’m concerned.

But I have to say that I usually just shake my head at the gob-smacking hypocrisy of those that spout Christian values on the one hand and spout bile and bigotry on the other and are too stupid and blinded by the monumental arrogance of their faith that they cannot see their hypocrisy. Instead,they justify their behaviour by reference to the behaviour of others of whom they are so critical, and in complete contradiction to what, in the eyes of the great unwashed, are perceived as Christian values.

One thing is for sure though; if this is meant to be a membership drive you need a new strategy.
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July 2, 2012 10:13pm
kowtow

Change of tone.
The anti nuclear,anti Israel mob really are Russian stooges (but then we already knew that)
http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/103576/the-cold-wars-arab-spring
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July 2, 2012 10:25pm
kowtow

Leo Mcinstry on assisted suicide in Britain (no mention of God)

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/329320/329320
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July 2, 2012 10:33pm
krazykiwi

wow, Quite a thread. Glad I missed it. Bruv’s nails were the low point. G’night.
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July 2, 2012 11:01pm
krazykiwi

No no can’t check out yet.

You have to watch Aussie Trade Minister Craig Emerson’s [literal!] song and dance routine when asked about the carbon tax.

I guess when one is attempting to defend a nonsencical, economy destroying, breathtakingly unpopular tax grab then words simply aren’t enough.

He’s right up there with Mad Cath 🙂
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July 2, 2012 11:14pm
Keeping Stock

@ thedavincimode (10.36pm) – the very reason why I, as a Christian, stay out of these kinds of exchanges. St Francis of Assisi had it right when he said “Preach the Gospel at all times, and when that fails, use words.”.
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July 3, 2012 4:58am
thedavincimode

KS

I suspect that St Frank would like to have a bit of a clean out of the marketing department around here and I’m not sure that JC would be overly impressed with the way his PR is being handled.

It’s a bit like watching the bogan section of the crowd supporting the Chiefs at a home game.
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July 3, 2012 6:05am
Manolo

It could happen here: http://www.sacbee.com/2012/07/02/4604048/california-bill-would-allow-a.html
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July 3, 2012 6:30am
Viking2

This is what you do to your best friends.

Kiwi frigates kept out of Pearl Harbour
DANYA LEVY
Last updated 05:00 03/07/2012

Despite New Zealand signing a sweeping new agreement on military co-operation with the United States, its anti-nuclear legislation is the reason two navy frigates have been refused entry to Pearl Harbour during the world’s largest maritime exercise.

For the first time in 28 years, the Defence Force is taking part in this year’s Exercise Rim of the Pacific, known as Rimpac. The force has proudly publicised New Zealand’s involvement in the US-hosted exercise.

The frigates Te Kaha and Endeavour are in Hawaii, along with a rifle platoon from the Infantry Regiment, a counter-mine team, an air force P-3K Orion and a dive team based in San Diego.

The frigates made front-page news in Honolulu, with the local Star-Advertiser reporting New Zealand was the only country “refused entry” to Pearl Harbour.

Defence Force spokesman Major John Gordon said the two frigates were berthed at Aloha Towers, which is the tourist part of Honolulu Port.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/7208276/Kiwi-frigates-kept-out-of-Pearl-Harbour
Time we told these USe less pricks to fuck off. Its like having a gang member for a friend.
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July 3, 2012 7:19am
Manolo

The wowsers must be disappointed: http://news.msn.co.nz/nationalnews/8493092/liquor-price-rise-unlikely-to-work-key
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July 3, 2012 7:23am
Viking2

Crown rolls over and admits defeat. Calls in the big guns. Fat fees all around from the taxpayer.
Attourney General, Crown Law out of control.

Crown hires legal high flyer to handle Dotcom case
By David Fisher
5:30 AM Tuesday Jul 3, 2012

The Government’s lawyers have contracted out handling of the Kim Dotcom case as the internet mogul heads back to court.

After a string of blunders, the Crown Law Office has drafted in one of the country’s most expert lawyers to handle the extradition hearing.

Meredith Connell partner and senior counsel Christine Gordon will take over from the Crown Law Office lawyers, who have faced a string of bruising legal encounters since Dotcom and three co-accused were arrested in January at the request of the FBI.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10816989

And the USA just trashed our Navy.
When will The Nats, McCully and Key make them walk the plank.
We were better off before we suckholed the USA.
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July 3, 2012 7:29am
Colville

Manolo, why would you care?
I know you have a better pallete that to buy the rancid cats piss they bottle sub $10 🙂
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