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July 17, 2012 8:00am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 17 July 2012

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Pauleastbay

Does anyone really care?……………..

Actually yes

Making 5117 comments here in about two weeks isn’t what WINZ would probably accept as an honest effort to seek employment or re-train. Not to mention many here would be paying for you to make 5117 comments and those many aren’t very fucking happy about doing that.
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July 17, 2012 6:44pm
mikenmild

What would you like me to do about it?
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July 17, 2012 6:56pm
Steve (North Shore)

I reckon Mike is chief shit stirrer at the Naenae RSA, and has Railway Union type job/s.
Train is a key word. My opinion of course Mike 🙂
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July 17, 2012 6:57pm
mikenmild

I thought the Naenae RSA had closed down.
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July 17, 2012 7:07pm
kowtow

mikenmild (5,118) Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 10:04 am
This public servant is very afraid!

So today he has said he is a public servant.
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July 17, 2012 7:07pm
bhudson

I think that perhaps He Who Shall Not Be Named is in self-imposed exile when he complained to DPF last week and was firmly rebuffed. Perhaps he was warned that an ‘investigation’ might lead to him being banned for inciting the rebellion?

But do not get complacent. He may be just around the…
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July 17, 2012 7:08pm
mikenmild

Yes kowtow, Kiwiblog is a very frightening place sometimes.
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July 17, 2012 7:17pm
Steve (North Shore)

Closed down Mike? Last time I was there (2002) it was full of whinging poms who were Unionists or retired ones.
Even the Maori fullas were moaning, nobody seemed to want to talk about solutions other than reducing the price of booze!
🙂
Oh, the term ‘JAFA’ was used quite often lol
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July 17, 2012 7:24pm
nasska

A tourist wanders into a back-alley antique shop in Wellington’s Cuba St. Picking through the objects on display he discovers a detailed, life-sized bronze sculpture of a rat. The sculpture is so interesting and unique that he picks it up and asks the shop owner what it costs.

“Twelve dollars for the rat, sir,” says the shop owner, “and a thousand dollars more for the story behind it.”

“You can keep the story, old man,” he replies, “but I’ll take the rat.”

The transaction complete, the tourist leaves the store with the bronze rat under his arm. As he crosses the street in front of the store, two live rats emerge from a sewer drain and fall into step behind him. Nervously looking over his shoulder, he begins to walk faster, but every time he passes another sewer drain, more rats come out and follow him. By the time he’s walked two blocks, at least a hundred rats are at his heels, and people begin to point and shout. He walks even faster, and soon breaks into a trot as multitudes of rats swarm from sewers, basements, vacant lots, and abandoned cars. Rats by the thousands are at his heels, and as he sees the waterfront at the bottom of the hill, he panics and starts to run full tilt.

No matter how fast he runs, the rats keep up, squealing hideously, now not just thousands but millions, so that by the time he comes rushing up to the water’s edge a trail of rats twelve city blocks long is behind him. Making a mighty leap, he jumps up onto a light post, grasping it with one arm while he hurls the bronze rat into Wellington Harbour with the other, as far as he can heave it. Pulling his legs up and clinging to the light post, he watches in amazement as the seething tide of rats surges over the edge of the wharf into the sea, where they drown.

Shaken and mumbling, he makes his way back to the antique shop.

“Ah, so you’ve come back for the rest of the story,” says the owner.

“No,” says the tourist, “I was wondering if you have a bronze civil servant.”
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July 17, 2012 7:29pm
mikenmild

I’m pretty sure either the Naenae or Taita RSA closed a few years back. And the Lower Hutt RSA shifted to the Petone Workingmen’s Club. The RSA is fading pretty fast now.
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July 17, 2012 7:29pm
Monique Watson

@ Nasska. Lol.
however I must admit i’ve always found public servants to be good value. It’s very much a “them and us”, mentality that doesn’t help some approaches.
If only the individual wouldn’t act in the best interests of the collective. Then you’d get some critical thinking.
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July 17, 2012 7:38pm
Steve (North Shore)

My guess is half wrong then Mike?.
Toot toot
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July 17, 2012 7:40pm
Steve (North Shore)

nasska,

OUCH
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July 17, 2012 7:40pm
Yvette

9/11 hearing delayed due to Ramadan
It is neither love nor money that makes the world go around –
it is irony.
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July 17, 2012 8:02pm
nasska

The lesbian community is feeling somewhat alienated as straight women everywhere are reading the new saucy novel that has been sweeping the nation.

’50 Shades of Gay’ is now set to be released next Monday.
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July 17, 2012 8:04pm
Steve (North Shore)

4000, a milestone nasska
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July 17, 2012 8:08pm
nasska

The toll mounts Steve….a little like birthdays where you no sooner get one out of the road & the next one’s on top of you.

Don’t know what’s happened. The clock moved much slower when I was a young bugger. 🙂
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July 17, 2012 8:13pm
Johnboy

Good on you mate! 🙂
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July 17, 2012 8:35pm
Johnboy

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10820224

Dylan Kingi!

How did I know that somehow?
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July 17, 2012 8:37pm
Johnboy

A Ram a Damn song for all you Kafirs.

Outside inside
De place it ram
Dance floor tight
But we don’t give a damn
Man hold yuh gal
And gal hold yuh man
And do the damn thing
Do the damn thing

Pop dat kris
No work tomorrow and you know i ain’t driving
Excuse me miss
Tell me what’s your name and tell me what your drinking
No sleep tonight
Party’s going on till six in the morning
The dance floor’s tight
Just the way we like it everybody’s jumpin

[Chorus]
Get yo freak on
Do what you want
Gal move yuh waist
Give man a taste

Get yo freak on
Do what you want
Mash up de place
Give me a taste

[Verse 2]
Outside inside
De place it ram
Dance floor tight
But we don’t give a damn
Man hold yuh gal
And gal hold yuh man
And do the damn thing
Do the damn thing

Outside inside
De place it ram
Dance floor tight
But we don’t give a damn
Man hold yuh gal
And gal hold yuh man
And do the damn thing
Do the damn thing

The sun is up
After the show it is the after party
It don’t stop
Everyting nice and we feelin irie
We don’t care
Nobody wants this session to end
People everywhere
Tomorrow night you know we’ll do the same thing again
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July 17, 2012 8:44pm
nasska

Beautiful Johnboy, just beautiful……near brought tears to me eyes! 🙂
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July 17, 2012 8:51pm
Johnboy

Big black fellahs tend to do that to little whitey virgins nasska!! 🙂
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July 17, 2012 8:54pm
nasska

But they stretch Johnboy…they stretch. 🙂
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July 17, 2012 8:56pm
big bruv

So….how about them Catholics? 🙂
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July 17, 2012 8:57pm
Johnboy

But one day they stop stretching nasska. Like John Key! 🙂
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July 17, 2012 8:58pm
Johnboy

We used to stretch them on the rack BB. Just before we burned them.

Made the fire last longer. 🙂
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July 17, 2012 9:00pm
big bruv

Be careful Johnboy. Lucia might bang out an email to DPF telling him that you threatened to stretch her out on a rack and set fire to her.
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July 17, 2012 9:05pm
nasska

Johnboy

It’s an interesting roadblock with the gimmies & the water. I reckon that JK is reading it right & standing back to let the various groups wind themselves into knots. As has been already pointed out there is not much anyone can do to stop the water running down a river & if it passes through a few hydro dams on the way it is still the same water when it meets the sea. Unless the wankers want to redefine physics according to Kupe they might be best advised to put a claim in for the ownership of gravity.

As an aside….have you ever had to control buttercup & if you have what did you use? Preside seems to be about the only spray on offer. It works but it’s expensive & stuffs the clover.
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July 17, 2012 9:08pm
kowtow

big bruv and his unhealthy catholic obsession. FFS
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July 17, 2012 9:11pm
big bruv

See how easy it is to get a reaction Johnboy?
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July 17, 2012 9:12pm
Johnboy

I have often suggested to Lucia that I am just the man to stretch her out and set fire to her BB.

I have never had a complaint regarding my abilities in that area referred to DPF before!

Seems very kinky to me! 🙂
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July 17, 2012 9:14pm
Johnboy

All my weeds are virtual nasska! 🙂
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July 17, 2012 9:16pm
nasska

Johnboy

I’ll do a swap with you then…..yours would be easier to get rid of 🙂
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July 17, 2012 9:17pm
Johnboy

Gravity nasska. Now there is a thought. They already claim it though because if we ignore their bullshit they get all serious and expect us to stop laughing at them.
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July 17, 2012 9:21pm
Viking2

Ullo johnboy. missed your 😆 Where’s ya bin?
Not in the hoosecauw I hope.
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July 17, 2012 9:51pm
Johnboy

Pressures of command V2. Once I was a happy little shepherd frolicking amongst my flock. Now I am a slave to the bottom line. Shit happens! 🙂
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July 17, 2012 9:59pm
HB

tom hunter (3,256) Says:
July 17th, 2012 at 11:34 am

“After which I posted back to an even earlier debate where milky had asked exactly the same thing. I then cut and pasted the evidence from the earlier debate that connected the fact that 45 per cent of New Zealand adults lacked essential reading and writing skills. with the analysis that showed (from PISA “levels” no less) NZ school leavers as literally 40-50% are little better than an uneducated 13th century worker/peasants..”

I don’t get how this shows education is worsening?
If more than 80% of students get NCEA L2 or better but 45% adults (who are people 18+?) lack essential reading and writing skills then isn’t that showing that older people are dragging down the countries results? Which would mean that students today are doing better than the past? Without even taking into account that most adults would have improved their literacy and numeracy with experience since leaving school?

I don’t however understand what the last sentence of your quote is saying exactly. Maybe if I did, it would clarify it for me.
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July 17, 2012 10:03pm
Johnboy

Full credit to Milkeys team. 3-0. Who’d have thunk it! 🙂
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July 17, 2012 10:06pm
Viking2

Will this man be villified by the govt. PR machine or will the Minister go take a look and listen?

Is she big enough to walk 500 metres to visit the man?

Probably not without the BMW.

Social Development Minister Paula Bennett has been told to “get off her fat arse” and visit a caravan park she complained was unfairly hiking rents for “substandard” accommodation.

The Waitakere MP yesterday singled out a caravan park in her electorate – Western Park Village – as “very expensive for what I’m sure most New Zealanders would see as quite substandard living”.

But the park owner, Darryll Heaven, said they did everything they could for many tenants that were forced upon them by Work and Income.

“That is absolute bulls . . . That really annoys me because she won’t get off her fat arse – she’s only 500 metres away – to come down and see us. We’ve got a dozen staff and we’re working 24 hours a day to control the place. She doesn’t understand that and if she thinks we’re ripping her off, come and have a look at our bottom line any time she likes.”

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/7296777/Bennett-challenged-to-visit-caravan-park
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July 18, 2012 6:53am
Viking2

Is this big bruv??

After the horrors of the two earthquakes, we hoped Christchurch could derive some shreds of momentary joy from the performance of their rugby team. No more. Some of us now hope that any team but the Crusaders wins the Super Rugby.

Richie McCaw’s post-match eloquence and decency is in contrast to his coach’s one-eyed remarks and hides a multitude of sins. Too many of the Crusaders intimidate referees, take cheap shots at the opposition and serially cheat around the ruck and maul.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/7296554/Serial-cheats-Crusaders-prosper-by-conning-refs
MARK REASON
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July 18, 2012 7:00am
Manolo

Yes, BB trying to pass as Mark Reason.
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July 18, 2012 7:02am
Viking2

😆
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July 18, 2012 7:10am
Michael Mckee

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10819567
So Bernard Hickey says we need to have a talk with our kids.

We should have listened to Winnie in 1997. The solution is the same.
Both National and Labour have screwed us since then by not dealing to this properly.

A national super like Kiwisaver on individual accounts is the answer, but now we have to introduce it by % over the next 20 years.
So those who are 20 now will have to pay for their super completely, those 50+ will have to pay a much much smaller %. with the % rising per decade i.e. 20, 30, 40, 50’s.
This has always been the option that causes the least grief.

Though what we do for the beneficiaries I don’t know, being on pension for 20-30 yrs and then super seems a bit rich.
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