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June 6, 2012 8:00am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 6 June 2012

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philu

colville…proud to be a primitive…

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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June 6, 2012 6:10pm
Johnboy

What you having for dinner tonight then Magpie?
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June 6, 2012 6:12pm
OECD rank 22 kiwi

John Key live on SkyNew UK right now. Nice.
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June 6, 2012 6:27pm
philu

so…the trolls are all here..

..never heard a cogent argument from any of them…

..spewing bile is pretty much all they have…

..(i wish that troll-id app would hurry up…matching up the names will be such fun..)

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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June 6, 2012 6:39pm
big bruv

Phool

WINZ has an app like that. All we do is type in your name and send it off along with a few selected quotes from you.

It’s bloody magic!
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June 6, 2012 7:02pm
labours a joke

Your’re toast ure..benefit fraudster…violent pharamacy robber…expect a knock on the door shortly…muwhahahah!!
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June 6, 2012 7:25pm
chiz

Spartacus axed, Lucy Lawless out of job.
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June 6, 2012 7:29pm
Steve (North Shore)

I wonder if the resident drug fucked train wreck has encouraged his protege to create dual identities so as to claim more than one benifit?
There never seems to be any bitching and moaning about rent, power, water, food costs like the solo mums do; so I guess things are ok when you double dip
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June 6, 2012 7:31pm
Johnboy

Poor Lucy. She will have to do what all unemployed actresses do. Find a handy derrick to mount! 🙂
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June 6, 2012 7:34pm
Steve (North Shore)

@ chiz
“Lucy Ryan out of job.”
Didn’t know she had a job, just a Greenpeace nutbar that has money to avoid being thrown in jail
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June 6, 2012 7:34pm
Yvette

Spartacus to end next season
The highly successful Spartacus saga, which has showcased some of Auckland’s top talent and showcased city locations, ends next season.
In an unusual move, the Starz network will conclude this action-adventure series while it’s still a big hit, and after logging only three seasons (or four, counting a “prequel” season).
– http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/7045089/Spartacus-to-end-next-season

Suppose, bit like everything else, it is just a matter of where you read it.
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June 6, 2012 7:59pm
nasska

Baldrick: “What I want to know, Sir is, before there was a Euro there were lots of different types of money that different people used. And now there’s only one type of money that the foreign people use. And what I want to know is, how did we get from one state of affairs to the other state of affairs”

Blackadder: “Baldrick. Do you mean, how did the Euro start?”

Baldrick: “Yes Sir”

Blackadder: “Well, you see Baldrick, back in the 1980s there were many different countries all running their own finances and using different types of money. On one side you had the major economies of France, Belgium,Holland and Germany, and on the other, the weaker nations of Spain, Greece, Ireland, Italy and Portugal. They got together and decided that it would be much easier for everyone if they could all use the same money, have one Central Bank, and belong to one large club where everyone would be happy. This meant that there could never be a situation whereby financial meltdown would lead to social unrest, wars and crises.”

Baldrick: “But this is sort of a crisis, isn’t it Sir?”.

Blackadder: “That’s right Baldrick. You see, there was only one slight flaw with the plan.”

Baldrick: “What was that then, Sir?”

Blackadder: “It was bollocks.”
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June 6, 2012 8:00pm
Johnboy

Monetary union with Oz is out then nasska?
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June 6, 2012 8:02pm
nasska

Johnboy

Rather out than in…….I’d hate to see the shape our little islands would end up in when you look at the fate Tasmania has suffered.
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June 6, 2012 8:08pm
Johnboy

Not to mention the West Coast compared to WA! 🙂
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June 6, 2012 8:09pm
Viking2

Dotcom accuses FBI of ‘illegal act’
By David Fisher
1:56 PM Wednesday Jun 6, 2012

Kim Dotcom’s lawyers have accused the FBI of an “illegal act” after it emerged agents had left the country with cloned copies of computers seized during raids.

William Akel told the High Court at Auckland today that there were written agreements with government lawyers which meant the computers were meant to be kept under police guard.

It emerged last week that data had already been taken to the US even though Dotcom’s lawyers say they had agreed nothing would happen before a court hearing on the issue.

High Court Chief Judge Helen Winkelmann ordered the Crown to return today with an explanation as to why the FBI had already removed data from New Zealand.

Mr Akel said the paper trail provided by the Crown acting for the Attorney-General showed it had breached an agreement with Dotcom.

He said it was possible Crown Law had been kept in the dark and it had been “gazumped” by the FBI ahead of the proper court hearing.

“If they went offshore without a directive from the Attorney-General then it is an illegal act,” he said.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10811178
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June 6, 2012 8:12pm
nasska

Chilling reports have revealed that weapons including machetes and baseball bats have been removed from various South Auckland schools.

One teacher said: “To be fair, we only ever used them in self-defence.”
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June 6, 2012 8:12pm
Johnboy

Proper charter schools would ensure that their staff had access to real weapons like AK’s, shotties and teargas.
Hell this crappy education system is ripe for an overhaul! 🙂
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June 6, 2012 8:15pm
Yvette

Considering the ‘Christian’ position that marriage is between a woman and a man, how are nuns the ‘Brides of Christ’, wed or married to Jesus, and how does that relate to the usual argument that marriage is primarily about having children?
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June 6, 2012 8:31pm
Steve (North Shore)

Teachers – ppth
I always thought that when a Teacher teaches, then the class was learning no matter what size the class was.
Think this way: If a World Leader, Musician, Band is going to do/say something at a concert or lecture then it does not matter if there are 40, 400 people, 400 thousand people.
When the Teachers can teach, the students will learn, until then the Teachers are just an excuse for being unemployable
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June 6, 2012 8:50pm
bereal

i may not know much
but one thing i do know is how to sort out a cat problem

glycol and cream.

we just don’t have cats around here anymore. Magic.

the lady next door who used to have 4 cats reckons she has a much better life now
that her cats have dissapeared.
She said that it was like stopping knocking her head into a brick wall.
She can now afford to eat fillet steak. She loves it.
Hey, all those cats, they just arn’t seen around anymore.

They have gone to a better place.
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June 6, 2012 8:50pm
Fletch

For those who say that same-sex marriage doesn’t affect anyone else –

A professional photographer who refused to take pictures of a gay couple’s commitment ceremony violated state anti-discrimination laws, the New Mexico Court of Appeals has ruled.

The court on Thursday agreed with a previous ruling, in which a district court judge said the photo studio is considered public, similar to a restaurant or store, and cannot refuse service based on sexual orientation, the Albuquerque Journal reported ( http://bit.ly/JSAdE5). The photography studio had argued that its refusal was not an act of discrimination but a reflection of the owners’ religious and moral beliefs.

Vanessa Willock asked the studio, Elane Photography, in 2006 about taking pictures of a same-gender ceremony but was told it handled only traditional weddings. When her partner contacted the studio without revealing her sexual orientation, she was given a price list and sent a follow-up email.

Willock filed a complaint with the New Mexico Human Rights Commission, which ruled that Elane Photography violated the state Human Rights Act and ordered it to pay nearly $7,000 in legal fees. A district court later upheld the commission’s ruling.

Appellate court Judge Tim Garcia said a 1981 state Supreme Court case expanded the concept of public accommodation to include nontraditional and non-historic businesses. The opinion is in line with a national trend, said Tobias Barrington Wolff, a University of Pennsylvania School of Law professor who represented Willock on appeal.

“I really think what’s most important about this case is that it is the first time (New Mexico) appellate courts have talked about scope of the statute in a really comprehensive way,” he said.

The Alliance Defense Fund, a Washington, D.C.-based legal alliance of Christian attorneys and others that represented the studio, plans to appeal. Elane Photography argued that it provided discretionary, unique and expressive services that aren’t a public accommodation under the Human Rights Act.

The studio asked hypothetically whether an African-American photographer would be required to photograph a Ku Klux Klan rally.

The court responded: “The Ku Klux Klan is not a protected class. Sexual orientation, however, is protected.”
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June 6, 2012 9:46pm
bereal

Hey

If we are going to have same sex marriage, then what is wrong with the muslim idea of four wives
for each believer ? or.

Why cant three women marry one guy ?

or why can’t i marry my cat ?

Why can’t i marry my two sisters, hey, we all love each other ?

What is the difference ?

All good ?

Why not ?

These are serious questions for all sicko deviants to address.

If marriage is not just for one man and one woman then where do we draw the line ?

Who draws the line ?

Love to hear from some shitlifter where he draws the line, and why ?

Why can’t five shirtlifters get married ?
What would be wrong with that ?
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June 6, 2012 11:08pm
bc

Steve @ 8.50pm
That comment was just so incredibly jaw-droppingly idiotic!
Did you consider to think before you typed it that the people attending a concert are not actually being taught anything??!!
So yes you can have a band present a concert to 40 000 people (or whatever). But if the band was asked to TEACH people at a concert to play a musical instrument or how to compose a song that they could do it?
Wow, I’m still shaking my head in disbelief at the stupidity of that comment!
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June 6, 2012 11:28pm
bc

Oh and Steve are you really comparing a lecture, which presumably have students which:
– have a good level of academic ability
– have an intrinsic appreciation of the value of learning and have chosen to be there!
– have good study/note-taking skills
– do not have behavioural or special learning needs
– have had years of prior learning
to a classroom of diverse learners, possibly with high learning and/or behavioural needs?
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June 6, 2012 11:40pm
Manolo

Will she apply for the dole? http://entertainment.msn.co.nz/article.aspx?id=8479388
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June 7, 2012 7:01am
Manolo

Hardly anybody pays taxes in Greece. What a surprise the country is broke.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/47700847
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June 7, 2012 7:04am
Viking2

So the FBI with or without the collusion of members of the police or attourney generals office removed evidence that was embargoed by the NZ courts. Time our relationship with the USA and Obama and all was sent back to previous levels. They are theiving coniving cowboys of the world. Its no wonder so many countries dislike them. We should add NZ back to that list.
Time also that Justice Winkleman booted these bastards into touch and opened the door for Dotcom to sue.

Megaupload’s lawyer, Willie Akel, told Justice Helen Winkelmann how two FBI analysts flew to New Zealand on March 20 and reviewed seven hard-drives of information. The analysts cloned the computers in Manukau.

When police returned to pick them up to take them to their hotel, the agents had already left to FedEx the copies back to the United States.

“The first [copies] were sent without the New Zealand Police having any say in it whatsoever,” Mr Akel said. The commissioner of police had “lost control of the items” once the FBI had them.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/digital-living/7054878/Dotcom-info-not-physical

http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/digital-living/7054878/Dotcom-info-not-physical
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June 7, 2012 7:07am
philu

“..or why can’t i marry my cat ?..”

..because it is dead…you poisoned it…remember..?

..and..do you live in new plymouth..?

..it’s just that you recently boasted here of having killed 12 cats by poisoning them..

..and residents of new plymouth are missing about 12 cats…

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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June 7, 2012 7:58am
travellerev

“Our big problem would be … if Europe goes, China could slow down, Australia would be very badly affected by the China slowdown and that’s the nightmare scenario for us – a slowdown in China, our second-largest market, a slowdown in Australia, our largest market, a weak United States and we’re in a diabolical position.” John Key, London, 7-6-2012.

Let’s assume for a moment that John Key did not earn his fortune with what in 1993 was already recognised as the instrument which would eventually bring down our entire global economy and just realise what he said here in public.
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June 7, 2012 8:18am
Elaycee

“…was already recognised as the instrument which would eventually bring down our entire global economy….”

Jesus wept! More crap from trivialrev….

Why don’t you change the ferkin’ record? Your hatred of the PM is well known and repeated ad nauseum anywhere you’re still allowed to comment. Most likely this hatred is driven by pure envy because his successful track record is light years ahead of your own efforts.

Your comments about the PM only confirm your status as a complete muppet.

(I hope that Kermit and Animal will not be too insulted).
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