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June 27, 2012 8:00am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 27 June 2012

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Monique Watson

Start the day with GW:

http://nowoccupy.blogspot.com/2012/06/lovelock-hammers-green-religion.html

The godfather of GW says it’s all a load of crap and rates fracking. Links to recent interviews
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June 27, 2012 8:11am
Keeping Stock

It would seem that Trevor Mallard ran a social media seminar for Labour’s small 2011 intake of new MP’s; two of them have distinguished themselves with SMOG’s (Social Media Own Goals):

http://keepingstock.blogspot.co.nz/2012/06/smogs-continue.html

Comparisons to Hitler, and attacking a man who was known to be attending a funeral should have made Trevor proud of his mentoring work; well done Dr’s Wood and Clark.
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June 27, 2012 8:15am
princetipytoe

David Garrett made “NO OPOLOGY” to the family after been caught stealing.

A brother of the dead child said that Mr Garrett was the “lowest of the low”
The brother of the dead boy told the Herald: “How much lower can you go? I know damn well if my father was alive, being a Scotsman, he would have gone after him, I would think.”
He said he would probably “lose his cool” if he came face to face with Mr Garrett.
His 94-year-old mother was “disgusted over the whole thing”, he said.
He was not aware of any apology that had come from Mr Garrett, but thought his mother would be expecting one.
“Surely the guy has got the balls to stand up and say, ‘I did something wrong’. And he didn’t do that.”
The man said he was about 16 when his 2-year-old brother was admitted to hospital after contracting a virus infection. Death came suddenly.
He described his young brother as “a real bubbly little kid”, and his death as a “hell of a shock” to the family.
Another brother said that as far as he knew, no one in his family had received an apology, let alone an explanation, from Mr Garrett.
“It’s quite alarming. I didn’t think that sort of thing was happening here. It’s very hard to believe that a person could consider taking the identity of a baby,” he said.
In the court documents, the deceased child’s mother said the identity theft caused her considerable stress and anxiety, and what Mr Garrett did was “akin to stealing from a grave”.
The dead boy’s sister was also quoted.
“The deeply cruel, shameful and malicious manner in acquiring such details has caused deep distress for the entire family, especially for my elderly mother, to be subjected to further trauma and pain in the memory of her beloved infant son and our darling little brother’s name.
Court documents reveal Mr Garrett visited a cemetery in New Plymouth in 1984 and found the gravestone of the boy, whose birthdate was close to his own.
He copied the details, obtained the child’s birth certificate, filled out a passport application form and photographed himself in a disguise which included dyed hair and glasses.
Garrett gave a fake postal address in Christchurch on his application form and supplied a fake reference of another offender: It was, as with many crimes, a series of deliberate steps.”
The family of the dead child whose identity was stolen “have effectively been gagged for years by a suppression order while they have to listen to Mr Garrett pontificating about being opposed to suppression orders, being in favour of openness, being in favour of the rights of victims”.
Garrett said and he never used the passport. “AFTER” it expired, he destroyed it.
Garrett having first denied the allegation of stealing to police.
Garrett said being locked up by police was “very difficult to cope with”. “PUSSY”
Garrett’s lawyer, Gary Gotlieb, told the judge that Garrett had an anxiety disorder and may have lost his legal practising certificate if he was convicted.
He had an anxiety depressive condition and was taking medication at the time of appearing in court.
Garrett asked to keep his identity secret to “maintain his reputation”.

[DPF: Troll like this again and you’ll be outski]
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June 27, 2012 8:30am
hmmokrightitis

Yawn, another day, another moron who can cut and paste. Oh, hang on…
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June 27, 2012 8:34am
KiwiGreg

Y U make no OPOLOGY?

R U IGNURUNT?
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June 27, 2012 8:41am
Pete George

Now the asset bill has passed…

…National will continue flogging off part of the power companies.
…Labour/Greens will continue to flog a dead horse petition?

There’s risks for National – the Mighty River float needs to be successfull, and for that to happen the market needs to be in reasonable shape. Success is dependent on implementation, and international influences.

Labour/Greens are taking a huge risk betting so much on a petition/referendum that everyone knows can be ignored anyway. And seems to be far too late.
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June 27, 2012 8:43am
Monique Watson

Earliest posters: Bloggers and Boneheads.
I changed my reference to Helen Clark to “UN Political Guilt tugboat. Just sayin.

And they are one and the same aren’t they? @8.30am
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June 27, 2012 8:46am
Nookin

“Yawn, another day, another moron who can cut and paste. Oh, hang on…”

I suspect that this is not “another moron” but the same one who was banned some months ago for exactly this sort of commentary. If DPF has any sense, he will consign him to purgatory without further warning.
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June 27, 2012 8:54am
Puzzled in Ekatahuna

princetipytoe – to perhaps reduce the inches you waste on this blog, you could just outline your relationship to David Garrett and your personal objection to him. Other contributors here are apparently guilty of past criminal acts like armed robbery and it is not established they have apologised either.
Do you have any more specific points so we can help you with your problem?
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June 27, 2012 9:05am
David Garrett

For obvious reasons I did not plan to comment on the latest attack from “Princetipytoe” who I suspect is the “Dennis” who has obsessions with both Garth McVicar and me, and is the person DPF banned some months ago. I feel obliged to correct an untrue claim in the latest attack.

I wish to inform my fellow commenters that the claim that I “never apologised” is quite untrue. The mother and sister of the dead boy made submissions to the court. I wrote letters of apology to both of them, and gave the letters to my then lawyer to forward to the Police prosecutor. I was not allowed to write to them directly. I have no way of knowing if those letters reached their destination. If they did not, then I deeply regret that, but it was out of my hands by that point.

I do not propose to make any further comment on this issue.
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June 27, 2012 9:30am
immigant

Ngati Tuwharetoa reckons they may own the water in river used by NZ power generators. Interesting, better go clean my Mossberg. I thought water was for all New Zealanders? Can someone explain how Iwi can lay claim to water in rivers? Do they own the rain too?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10815744
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June 27, 2012 9:36am
immigant

Why doesn anyone care about Garrett’s misdeeds 30 years ago? He’s not even a political figure any more as far as I know. Besides this is justa Blog, complaining here acheives nothing. If you feel so cut up about what Garrett did, go take a shit on his porch or something, that would acheive more then bleating on a Blog.
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June 27, 2012 9:40am
Pete George

immigant, you have to wonder why some can’t let it go. I don’t care about my own misdeeds thirty years ago, let alone Garrett’s which have been well and truly raked over.
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June 27, 2012 9:46am
immigant

Don’t get me wrong, I think what you did with the birth certificate is pretty bad, but It has no relevance to anything that is happening now or that is being discussed on the blog.
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June 27, 2012 9:48am
Manolo

As Orwell wrote: “All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.”
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/auckland/news/nbmao/1085523801-Maori-may-get-shares-in-state-assets
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June 27, 2012 9:50am
Pete George

David Cunliffe gave a speech in the weekend that I thought was being promoted as something big, it had been signposted for weeks. Grant Robertson attended to dispel any leadership accusations.

I thought it was a good speech, raising some very pertinent points looking ahead. But the speech has been ignored by media – and virtually ignored by Labour online.

What happened to David Cunliffe’s speech?
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June 27, 2012 9:52am
David Garrett

immigant: The short answer to your question is that the gummint – including this National government – has passed legislation giving “iwi” – which seems to be a nice flexible word – control of the Waikato River, and an effective right of veto as to who can take water from it.

I recall sitting in the House when the Waikato River Authority Bill was passed…hearing Finlayson trying to say “this is a one off…not a precedent…In front of me, Tariana Turia was saying “oh yes it is, the Wanganui [her dialect doesn’t aspirate the ‘wh’] will be next”. Only ACT voted against that Bill.

For once the Greens’ “thin end of the wedge” argument is right; once you allow “iwi” – or even worse the all encompassing “maori” – expectations over the control of water usage from rivers, then this sort of claim will follow, as sure as night follows day.
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June 27, 2012 9:53am
Brian Smaller

as sure as night follows day.

I heard there was a claim in for those two as well. Maui chained the sun up so we have to pay for using it now.
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June 27, 2012 10:09am
Sofia

Do they own the rain too?
Apparently yes – Wanganui iwi have in the past claimed it is their rain that passes from their province to fall in the mountains of Tuwharetoa and thus it is partly their water in the Waikato.
Good. Let them quantify that and sort it out.
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June 27, 2012 10:14am
Keeping Stock

Credibility time; princetipytoe makes anonymous allegations that are so similar to those made by a commenter who has since been banned. Conversely David Garrett posts under his own name and refutes the allegations.

Who to believe is a bit of a no-brainer. Put up or shut up princetipytoe.
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June 27, 2012 10:15am
Longknives

I was wondering if (given his poor spelling,grammar and unhealthy obsession with David Garrett) Princetipytoe was the ‘son-of’ one of David’s other regular sparring partners?
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June 27, 2012 10:29am
David Garrett

Sofia: Except that “they” dont spend the resources “quantifying and sorting out” these bullshit claims. The Tribunal already operates on an “accept all claims at face value in the first instance basis.” The “sorting out’ involves researchers employed by or contracted to the Tribunal…all of which costs money…YOUR money.

Take WAI 262 – the claim to Maori ownership or guardianship or whatever it is to all the flora and fauna in the country. When that was filed it was largely seen as a joke. It is no joke. A claim regarding the rain than the river water that results may well be treated just as seriously.
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June 27, 2012 10:31am
Longknives

Immigant- I read some comment from Turia somewhere that that their ancestors “won’t rest” until all land,sea and air has been returned to Maori ownership/control.

Yes that’s right “Air”..

What a future this country has- Last out lights out!
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June 27, 2012 10:34am
Longknives

Christ- Has anyone opened Stuff.co.nz today?
That horrible,scowling mug AGAIN….
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June 27, 2012 10:36am
Manolo

The Messiah is frightened: http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/7ef1848a-bfd3-11e1-bb88-00144feabdc0.html?ftcamp=published_links%2Frss%2Fworld_us_politics%2Ffeed%2F%2Fproduct#axzz1ywRdEUye
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June 27, 2012 10:38am
Manolo

Africa is NZ’s destiny if people like Turia and co. are left to execute their racist agenda.
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June 27, 2012 10:39am
David Garrett

Manolo: That, I am afraid, is exactly right. Perhaps even Rwanda to be more precise…as the “cunning” Nga Puhi take out the “selfish” Ngati Porou (both terms being descriptions I have commonly heard Maori use about iwi to which they don’t belong or affiliate.)

Very quiet here today…
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June 27, 2012 10:49am
mikenmild

Isn’t that a a bit hysterical DG; buying in to Manolo’s racist paranoia?
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June 27, 2012 10:59am
labours a joke

http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/motoring/7176485/Killer-drifting-driver-to-be-beheaded

Excellent. Lets do it in NZ. Start with the smart arse punk 15-20 yr old drifters then progress to the handwringing sickly white liberals.. eg 10:59
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June 27, 2012 11:04am
Viking2

Worker gets a cut, boss loses $100k
ROB KIDD
Last updated 05:00 27/06/2012

A small cut on an employee’s arm, caused by an unsafe machine, has cost a Hamilton business just over $100,000.

Frankton-based Proform Plastics Limited, which employs more than 110 people, was yesterday fined $42,000 in the Hamilton District Court after previously pleading guilty to a charge of breaching the Health and Safety in Employment Act.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/7175302/Worker-gets-a-cut-boss-loses-100k

No wonder business is going offshore.. Drive around Tauranga and the Mount and add up the 100’s of empty commercial
buildings. Buildings being vacated by the day.

Key needs to boot some of this stupid shit out the door. If we want NZ to recover, (probably unlikely), then this just has to be stopped.
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June 27, 2012 11:05am
David Garrett

Mikey: No, I don’t believe it is….and I don’t think my example of Rwanda is OTT either.

Contrary to what the PC brigade would have us believe – they might even actually believe their own bullshit – there is considerable enmity between various iwi…and Maori, like the other polynesians, can nurture grievances for generations, apparently living perfectly peaceably with people from different tribes…until an opportunity arises to avenge some long past wrong done to an ancestor. And that is not of course unique to polynesia.

Is it “racist” to observe that this is exactly what occurred in the Balkans in the 90’s? And what has been occurring in the Balkans for hundreds of years prior to that? Any bets that there won’t be a further round of bloodletting there within our (my) lifetime to avenge those killed in the 90’s?

Anywhere tribalism is not only allowed to flourish but encouraged, bitter division seems to inevitably follow.
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June 27, 2012 11:09am
Viking2

The Reduction continues.

More jobs gone.

70 jobs lost as Auckland factory closes
NICK KRAUSE
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/7177553/70-jobs-lost-as-Auckland-factory-closes
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June 27, 2012 11:13am
KiwiGreg

“A small cut on an employee’s arm, caused by an unsafe machine, has cost a Hamilton business just over $100,000.”

Crap reporting. The cost of making the machines safe is a cost of being in business so they should only attribute the fine to cost.

Unusually though it doesnt seem any of the fine has gone to the employee which frequently happens (so much for “no fault” ACC).
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June 27, 2012 11:24am
kowtow

I’m with DG on the potential for violence.
My particular interest is Ireland.
In the mid to late 1800’s the place was beginning to settle down and prosper (like the rest of Great Britain).This didn’t suit the extreme nationalists who launched a Gaelic Revival,language ,games,separate identity ie we are Irish not British etc. Harking back to times of warrior kings and queens and an idealised past.
While many of these folk espoused constitutionalism there was always a violent strand……and we still see the legacy of that created separateness and hatred today.

Does any of this sound familiar?
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June 27, 2012 11:28am
Longknives

“Isn’t that a a bit hysterical DG; buying in to Manolo’s racist paranoia?”

There are an awful lot of New Zealanders, of all colours and creed, who are horrified by New Zealand’s descent into ‘apartheid-like’ separatism.
I for one genuinely fear for the future of this country and it’s inhabitants if we continue to pander to seperatists and extremists (any study of History tells us that this will end very badly)
I guess this is just “racist paranoia”??
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June 27, 2012 11:32am
dime

Maori know how to just keep milking us forever. they never push too far.
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June 27, 2012 11:34am
grumpyoldhori

David Garrett nope, we of the Nga Puhi call the Ngati Porou the Wellington mafia for good reason.

Immigrant, I suggest you trot along to Burnham with your shotgun, nothing like the sound of a GPMG in full song getting rid of unwanted visitors.

Kowtow, yep that’s why there are so many hori in the army, just waiting for the day we can rid NZ of all pasty white pakeha.Hmm, telling the wife she is being chucked out may be a touch dangerous.
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June 27, 2012 11:47am
grumpyoldhori

Dime, where is that case of single malt you owe me for allowing you to stay in my green and pleasant land ?
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June 27, 2012 11:49am
kowtow

Hey grumpy

I reckon those army horis are more like good old Tamati Waaka Nene than Hone Heke. But history choses to ignore the “Uncle Tom” and elevate the rebel (God knows why).

Honkey could neevr have created the greatest Empire on Earth without a lot of willing and loyal “locals.”

How the Brits did it was a mystery to that dumb frog Napoleon,another on e of lifes great losers.

Yep, no cooked dinner for you tonight!
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June 27, 2012 11:53am
KevinH

Water rights are not part of the equation in the governments proposed asset sales. Maori interests in the catchments , riverbeds and lakebeds are all protected under Treaty legislation, if not they would be flogged off at the first opportunity by the government of the day.
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June 27, 2012 11:57am
Viking2

grumpyoldhori (2,188) Says:
June 27th, 2012 at 11:47 am

Kowtow, yep that’s why there are so many hori in the army, just waiting for the day we can rid NZ of all pasty white pakeha.Hmm, telling the wife she is being chucked out may be a touch dangerous.

We can just imagine who wears the pants at your place hori.
Big brave Grumpy on Kiwiblog but a simpering “yes dear” at home.
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June 27, 2012 12:22pm
Colville

Viking2

Ever heard the phrase “happy wife … happy life?”
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June 27, 2012 12:25pm
Viking2

yep, We have only grumpi’s view on that. Given his ravings I reckon I’m close to the reality of home.
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June 27, 2012 12:31pm
mikenmild

Anyone who thinks that NZ will descend into a chaos of warring tribes a la Rwanda or Bosnia probably also believes in the imminent threat of an Islamic takeover, a long-term masonic conspiracy to rule the world and that the Loch Ness monster disproves the theory of evolution.
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June 27, 2012 12:32pm
immigant

@grumpyoldhori

For someone who never served in any armed forces, you sure make a lot of noise. The Maori in the armed forces that , unlike you, have sworn an oath to their country and would shoot, hatemongering seperatists like you long before they would turn on the very people they are sworn to protect. They have honour and patriotism.

I think in your language it is called Mana, something that you have lost long ago by the sounds of it.
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June 27, 2012 12:58pm
Paulus

Listening to RNZ this morning I have to wonder who runs New Zealand – now I know it’s the Maori, who can change legislation by the Treaty of Waitangi – my water – my piss too if I wish to unrinate in the Taupo Lake and the rivers downstream.
Get real New Zealand – but it’s too late now.
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June 27, 2012 1:16pm
Harriet

DG #

“….Anywhere tribalism is not only allowed to flourish but encouraged, bitter division seems to inevitably follow….”

It all stems from the collapse of socialism, after which left-wingers shifted their focus from economics to issues of group identity.
Instead of attacking the capitalist West for oppressing the workers, they attacked mainstream society for oppressing marginalised or minority groups that were held to be victims of the majority.
Hugely aided by human rights law, such groups then became immune from criticism and were encouraged to complain about their treatment.
Moreover, how people felt became much more important than anything they actually did. So if such a victim group claimed to have been insulted, that was regarded as proof that an insult had actually occurred.
This replacement of objective reality by subjective feelings was a recipe for turning truth and justice inside out.
When George Orwell created his fictional ‘thought police’ and ‘Ministry of Truth’, he was attacking Stalinism and its attempt to re-configure human psychology itself.

Incredible as it may seem, that’s what we have in New Zealand with ‘political correctness’, which should more properly be called cultural Stalinism — a regime of oppression and intimidation in which even innocent children are being branded as bigots.
A kinder, gentler world? No, this is where freedom dies with a boot stamping on its face.

Racism is being redefined to include not only hateful references to someone’s colour, but any reference to it at all.
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June 27, 2012 1:23pm
kowtow

More on the ongoing pc guff from the frozen south (shit Al where’s that global warming I can’t wait)

http://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/214731/aversion-over-toitu-placing
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June 27, 2012 1:33pm
immigant

Hmmmm… Rua McCallum. Good luck getting a job in any country but NZ with all that shit all over your chin.
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June 27, 2012 1:41pm
dime

grumpy – seeing as though we dont charge you a special levy to help pay for the incarceration of your fine people i think we are even 🙂

i was going to suggest id send you a bottle of single malt (introduced to maori by evil whitey) if we could go a year without a maori beating a baby to death. but thats probably in poor taste.
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June 27, 2012 1:44pm
graham

And the award for “Windup of the Day” goes to … dime!
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June 27, 2012 1:47pm
immigant

@dime wow… you Sir are ruthless.
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June 27, 2012 1:50pm
Harriet

Culture should be seperated from the state.

Sure, under the Treaty government has to ‘promote’ Maori culture, but there is a very fine line between ‘promotion’ and ‘imposing’.Maori culture should only be promoted via the state onto Maori.

Maori don’t like other cultures being ‘imposed’ apon them -as we have all dearly learnt- so why would the government not learn from that mistake and stop promoting Maori, Poly and other cultures onto others ?

If people want to speak, print, write, copy anything other than english then that is their business – but it doesn’t need to be everyone elses business via the state.

<Maori and others have to stop behaving like crusaders and colonisers.
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June 27, 2012 1:53pm
mikenmild

Quote of the day:
‘Maori and others have to stop behaving like crusaders and colonisers’
WTF!!!!
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June 27, 2012 2:01pm
graham

Bloody lawyer who thinks he’s entitled to something for nothing.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/transport/news/article.cfm?c_id=97&objectid=10815751

“Toll-avoider vows to keep fighting.”

Basically, Hans Grueber wants to able to use the new toll road from Orewa to Puhoi without paying the toll. He also claims that there isn’t a high level of support for tolls.

Well here’s a news flash for Mr Grueber. Nobody is forcing him to use the toll road. The old road is still there, just where it always was, and is perfectly useable. If there was no support for the toll road, then nobody would be using the damn thing, would they? They would use the old toll-free road, which is sign-posted. But the fact is, people use the toll road.

He just wants something for nothing, and wants other people to pay for it.
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June 27, 2012 2:04pm
grumpyoldhori

immigrant strange that, I swore an oath to the crown, do you believe that hori today joining the military now swear an oath to politicians like is done in non realm countries ?

You would be wrong.
(“I, [name], solemnly promise and swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to our Sovereign Lady the Queen, Her heirs and successors, and that I will faithfully serve in the New Zealand Naval Forces/the New Zealand Army/the Royal New Zealand Air Force [Delete the Services that are not appropriate], and that I will loyally observe and obey all orders of Her Majesty, Her heirs and successors, and of the officers set over me, until I shall be lawfully discharged. So help me God.”)

The army would not shoot some revolting types, you are confused.
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June 27, 2012 2:12pm
cha

Careful grumpyoldhori, that immigant chappie reckons he’s a dangerous man.
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June 27, 2012 2:18pm
grumpyoldhori

dime dear boy, believe you mother fucking honkies can go a year without stabbing some young lass to death ?
And then whine that she was at fault.
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June 27, 2012 2:18pm
dime

grumpy – i didnt realise that was happening several times a year. if so i hope we are coming down on them as hard as humanly possible.

just like maori do with the baby killers.

the only one that comes to mind is the universally hated clayton fuckwit
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June 27, 2012 2:22pm
Longknives

Is “Mother fucking honkies” really acceptable??
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June 27, 2012 2:24pm
dime

I was going to pretend to be upset at being called a honkie.. but it seems apt:

“Word HONKIE or HONKEY originated in Chicago in the 1940s when repeatedly White men would drive to predominately black areas honking their vehicle horns looking for prostitutes.”

replace the 1940’s with now and chicago with auckland and the honking with mouse clicking… you get the idea
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June 27, 2012 2:31pm
Longknives

Graham- Didn’t Hans Gruber get thrown off a building by John McClane in Die Hard 1???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Rickman
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June 27, 2012 2:32pm
grumpyoldhori

Harriet wahines whine that they are put at the back on the marae, you have just shown why, you have long tongues and cause trouble.

Why are you not in front of the stove getting the old man’s dinner ready ?
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June 27, 2012 2:33pm
grumpyoldhori

Longknives for dime it is yes.
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June 27, 2012 2:36pm
mikenmild

i thought Hans Gruber was the gay German with the ‘little tank’ who had a crush on Rene Artois.
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June 27, 2012 2:36pm
dime

i am curious though grumpy, do you often resort to racial slurs?

personally i dont care. like if we were in a pub and you called me a “mother fucking honkie” id probably just look at you like you were an idiot.

i think youd be a swinger though. if i called you a “mother fucking nigger” i think you’d throw down.
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June 27, 2012 2:44pm
graham

Longknives: Apparently he got reincarnated as a lawyer who feels annoyed at having to pay a $2.20 toll if he chooses to use the road.

No wonder McClane threw him out the window.
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June 27, 2012 2:52pm
David Garrett

Aint it nice without that f…ing idiot? A bit of generally good natured banter with the odd barb…but mostly just discussion about matters of GENERAL interest…
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June 27, 2012 3:00pm
grumpyoldhori

Dime, nah, I would just say how much your wife/ partner enjoys a touch of colour.
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June 27, 2012 3:00pm
si_rangi

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/7179929/NZ-Navy-bargaining-for-unsafe-helicopters

Why is this such a common theme for all of our military purchases? Regardless of which Government is in power, this always happens.
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June 27, 2012 3:05pm
dime

grumpy – only when im watching 😀

i do find it weird you go straight to a racial slur though. not very helpful.

then again, your name is a racial slur.

i sometimes wonder if youre a white guy being an ass on purpose.
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June 27, 2012 3:06pm
dime

DG – as far as im concerned the loser died 2 weeks ago. its been good without him in my life!

did it get itself banned again???
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June 27, 2012 3:07pm
grumpyoldhori

Dime, fuck, if I was white my old man would have got a rehab dairy in the Waikato and I would have lived the life of a gentleman farmer with the peasant share milkers doing the work while I traveled.
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June 27, 2012 3:15pm
kowtow

goh

farmer perhaps,gentleman? nevah (said with plummy colonial accent) harumph.
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June 27, 2012 3:20pm
Zapper

Wow, we have one serious racist on our hands here. Doesn’t racism usually attract demerits?
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June 27, 2012 3:27pm
Manolo

The sky is falling: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/world/obama-sounds-alarm-over-romney-cash/story-e6frfkui-1226410096061#ixzz1yxc3jWvJ
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June 27, 2012 4:22pm
Tauhei Notts

I think that the transport authorities should sign post, on Highway One just north of Wairakei, the Atiamuri Dam. It is one of the world’s weirdest hydro electric schemes.
The water, as it enters the turbines belongs to the Tuwharetoa people. As it exits the turbines it becomes the property of the Waikato people. This change in property rights occurs every second of the day. It is fascinating.
This has got to be a world first.
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June 27, 2012 5:01pm
labours a joke

http://news.msn.co.nz/nationalnews/8490496/maori-womens-refuge-fraud

More fraud from our peaceful natives…does it ever end? Why are they always stealing?
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June 27, 2012 5:16pm
BillODrees

Re Pete George and ” what happened to David Cunliffe’s speech”

It is on Red Alert! It was well discussed in The Standard. It was on this site also.
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June 27, 2012 5:23pm
chiz

An alternative take: University professor becomes Egypt’s president.
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June 27, 2012 5:38pm
David Garrett

LAJ: Obviously you haven’t been to uni any time in the last 20 years…It’s COLONISATION stupid…same as obesity, poor educational outcomes, killing babies….[insert bad social statistical measure here……………..]
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June 27, 2012 5:41pm
Pauleastbay

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/michelle-rhee-witchfinder-general-of-americas-classrooms-flies-in-to-give-gove-her-gospel-7888973.html

Richard Garner meets the woman who lives to sack teachers

an American education expert who advocates sacking large numbers of incompetent teachers

This woman has years of work in NZ.
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June 27, 2012 7:05pm
labours a joke

Beats me DG. Maybe a sickly white hand wringing tofu eating sandal and bone carving wearing liberal apologist might like to explain it. Lets see…I dunno , maybe milkmike?
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June 27, 2012 7:09pm
Steve (North Shore)

Pauleastbay,

We need to get Michelle Rhee down her to New Zealand ASAP, like tomorrow. Send all of the useless teachers to Australia, might improve the IQ of both countrys. With the money gained by sacking the unionist dropkicks, the good teachers can get a well deserved increase instead of same pay as those swinging the lead
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June 27, 2012 7:36pm
calendar girl

goh @ 2.33: “Harriet wahines whine that they are put at the back on the marae, you have just shown why, you have long tongues and cause trouble. Why are you not in front of the stove getting the old man’s dinner ready?”

That’s pretty base-level abuse, even for a sad case like you.
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June 27, 2012 7:37pm
Other_Andy

Rebels Responsible for Houla Massacre?

The Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung report echoes eyewitness accounts collected from refugees from the Houla region by members of the Monastery of St. James in Qara, Syria. According to monastery sources cited by the Dutch Middle East expert Martin Janssen, armed rebels murdered “entire Alawi families” in the village of Taldo in the Houla region.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/302261/report-rebels-responsible-houla-massacre-john-rosenthal

Paliwood has always worked well with compliant and extremely biased and lazy journalistas so this wouldn’t be surprising.
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June 27, 2012 7:39pm
slijmbal

Nice timing

Cullen’s train-set has finally had its book value written down. Considering the purchase price and amount p****d down this poor economic decision I’m surprised it took so long.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10815831

obviously the opposition will squeal, precursor to selling it and all that – not that I think it’s a saleable entity.
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June 27, 2012 7:45pm
Leaping Jimmy

Before the US’ actions following 911, I used to place Carter’s comments on human rights alongside those of the Communist League. Since 911 however its all too obvious that he has a point. This time. It’s a shame certain others are blinded by something, who knows what, that they can’t and possibly never will see, the blindingly obvious.

Attacks on human rights after 9/11 had been “sanctioned and escalated by bipartisan executive and legislative actions, without dissent from the general public”, he said. “As a result, our country can no longer speak with moral authority on these critical issues.”

Carter added: “While the country has made mistakes in the past, the widespread abuse of human rights over the last decade has been a dramatic change from the past.”

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/25/jimmy-carter-drone-strikes
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June 27, 2012 7:51pm
nasska

A young man moved from his parents home into a new apartment of his own and went to the lobby to put his name on his mailbox.
While there, an attractive young lady came out of the apartment next to the mailboxes, wearing a robe.
The boy smiled at the young woman and she started a conversation with him.
As they talked, her robe slipped open, and it was obvious that she had nothing else on.
The poor kid broke into a sweat trying to maintain eye contact.
After a few minutes, she placed her hand on his arm and said, “Let’s go to my apartment, I hear someone coming.”

He followed her into her apartment; she closed the door and leaned against it, allowing her robe to fall off completely.
Now completely nude, she purred at him,
“What would you say is my best feature?” Flustered and embarrassed, he finally squeaked, “It’s got to be your ears.”

Astounded, and a little hurt she asked, “My ears? Look at these breasts; they are full and 100% natural. I work out every day and my butt is firm and solid. Look at my skin – no blemishes anywhere, so how can you think that the best part of my body is my ears?!”
Clearing his throat, he stammered, “Outside, when you said you heard someone coming, that was me…”
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June 27, 2012 8:00pm
Leaping Jimmy

Rebels Responsible for Houla Massacre?

The whole Syria campaign is one big massive bollocks propaganda operation from start to finish O_A. Even screaming lefties like Mary Wilson are completely taken in. Listen to the segment on Syria on Checkpoint tonight where she talks to some Aussie uni guy whose pushing the meme.

It’s incredible, to me. I’ve been watching it for 18 months now, it’s like so elegant but so appalling at the same time. Given I know it’s all been planned, that every single murder and rape, even of kids, has been committed by these rebels which have been armed and trained by western agencies and every single lying bollocks report out of every single journo’s mouth has been carefully designed to inculcate in the minds of the sheeple one thing: that of course, its the Syrian govt, no question. And its all complete and utter bullshit.

It’s a fucking shame the sheeple AND the journos are ALL so profoundly stupid it never occurs to any of the idiots, not one, to ever ask themselves one simple question. Why has Assad started doing this all of a sudden when there has been decades and decades of relative peace under his rule? How come just when it was convenient for the west to get rid of Syria so that it could take out the last ally between it and Iran, how come just then, once it has done Egypt and Libya and now its Syria’s turn, how come that timing, is never looked at, as a suspicious element in this equation? Not one single journalist in the entire 18 or so months this has been bubbling away has never really looked at that, apart from the pro-Arab ones, who know what it’s all about but whom are all dismissed by the westerners, because they’re pro Arab and therefore, they MUST be wrong, they CAN’T be right.
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June 27, 2012 8:05pm
Viking2

Crusher Collins. really is a pussy cat alongside this guy.

Killer drifting driver to be beheaded

A Saudi court sentenced a middle-aged joy-rider to death by beheading for accidentally killing two people while performing a car stunt near the capital Riyadh, the Saudi newspaper Al Watan has reported.

A pastime known as “drifting,” in which drivers make their cars spin and skid at high speed, is popular among Saudi men with few options for entertainment in a conservative kingdom where cinemas do not exist and mixing between unrelated men and women is forbidden.

Al Watan reported that the defendant, which it said identified himself as “Mutannish” – “he who ignores” in Arabic, struck and killed two men while performing the thrill-seeking stunt and fled the scene before being arrested.

“The court of Onaiza handed down a sentence to kill the drifter ‘mutannish’ by beheading as punishment for his heinous deed and to deter others who tamper with the nation’s security,” the report stated.

Al Watan did not say when the sentence would be carried out. A Justice Ministry spokesman could not be reached for comment.

Saudi authorities have treated deaths resulting from acts of “drifting” as criminally negligent homicides.

In 2005, a Saudi naval officer found guilty of killing three minors in a stunt-driving accident was handed a death sentence that was subsequently reduced to 3000 lashes and 20 years in prison, according to local media.

Saudi Arabia, which follows a strict version of Sunni Islam, does not have a written penal code and judges issue verdicts according to their own interpretation of the Koran.

Amnesty International has said that at least 82 people were executed in Saudi Arabia last year, many of them by public beheading.
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June 27, 2012 8:08pm
nasska

V2

Allah, the most merciful prophet, will be well pleased!
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June 27, 2012 8:24pm
Sofia

Circumcising young boys on religious grounds amounts to grievous bodily harm, a German court ruled Tuesday in a landmark decision that the Jewish community said trampled on parents’ religious rights.
The regional court in Cologne, western Germany, ruled that the “fundamental right of the child to bodily integrity outweighed the fundamental rights of the parents”, a judgement that is expected to set a legal precedent.
“The religious freedom of the parents and their right to educate their child would not be unacceptably compromised, if they were obliged to wait until the child could himself decide to be circumcised,” the court added … The decision caused outrage in Germany’s Jewish community … The court specified that circumcision was not illegal if carried out for medical reasons.

May have some implications for the psychological damage of children adopted to married same sex parents – or not
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June 27, 2012 8:31pm
Viking2

“When crimes occur through the mail you don’t shut the post office down,” he said in an email interview with CNET.

Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak has jumped to the defence of Megaupload billionaire Kim Dotcom and says the controversial businessman is lucky to be living in New Zealand.

“When governments dream up charges of ‘racketeering’ for a typical IT guy who is just operating a file-sharing service, or accuse him of mail fraud because he said he had removed files [to alleged infringing content] when he’d just removed the links to them, this is evidence of how poorly thought out the attempt to extradite him is.”

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10815915
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June 27, 2012 8:34pm
labours a joke

http://news.msn.co.nz/nationalnews/8490623/arrests-as-paeroa-pizza-man-buried

whaddya reakon punters !? Odds on eh ! Graham..wana loose another hundred? Peaceful natives?
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June 27, 2012 8:36pm
Other_Andy

@Leaping Jimmy\Reid

Taking it too far as usual. Everything is smoke and mirrors in the Middle East. Propaganda, Takkya or kitman are a way of life, part of the culture in Dar Al Islam. Both sides are as bad as each other. It is a change of the guard in Egypt, Libya, Algeria etc. In a few years time there will be another ‘revolution’ with more bloodshed.
Leon Uris nailed it. “Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel.”
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June 27, 2012 8:48pm
Viking2

HEALTH > HEALTH NEWS
Women ‘achieve orgasm at the gym’
Tuesday, 20 March 2012 12:00:00 p.m.
Lianzi Fields

The news that you can achieve an orgasm while working out in the gym may be just the incentive to get women back on those medicine balls and doing floor crunches, as the results of a new study suggest.

Scientists at the Centre for Sexual Health Promotion at Indiana University in the US have released data on the links between orgasms and physical exercise, which have been termed “coregasms”, LiveScience reports.

“It may be that exercise, which is already known to have significant benefits to health and wellbeing, has the potential to enhance women’s sexual lives as well,” said lead researcher,

http://health.msn.co.nz/healthnews/8438184/women-achieve-orgasm-at-the-gym

Ok so there really is a reason for those polly balls. 😆
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June 27, 2012 8:53pm
TimG_Oz

“The religious freedom of the parents and their right to educate their child would not be unacceptably compromised, if they were obliged to wait until the child could himself decide to be circumcised,”

You know, I would rather have my parents make the decision when I was 8 days old, than have to face some unpleasant surgery as an adult. What bollocks.
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June 28, 2012 12:30am
Manolo

Another crook is punished: http://news.msn.co.nz/nationalnews/8490406/state-tries-to-seize-fake-princes-tyres
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June 28, 2012 5:40am
Viking2

New contract to ‘rebalance’ ACC targets
ANDREA VANCE
Last updated 05:00 28/06/2012

ACC Minister Judith Collins will set out tough new expectations in a new contract with the troubled corporation – to be tabled in Parliament today.

The document is a rolling three-year service and purchase agreement between the Government and the state insurer.

It is understood to be a long way from an agreement signed in June 2010 by former minister Nick Smith, which focused on financial performance, and will “rebalance” its objectives.

Dr Smith and board chairman John Judge – who was let go this month – agreed ACC would get rid of 1150 long-term clients a year.

Ms Collins, who is in China, has said she wants to drive a “culture change” to restore public confidence in the corporation.

Would be:
Nice if the customers were asked what they wanted to buy.

But no, compulsion by socialists still.
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