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June 19, 2012 8:00am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 19 June 2012

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travellerev

thedavincimode,

This is what John Key has to say about Derivatives on breakfast TV: “I mean they sold products that in their heart of hearts they must have known they wouldn’t be repaid for so I can understand that bit….”

So if he knew this than why do we have $ 112 Billion of this in of the book Crap again?

http://aotearoaawiderperspective.wordpress.com/2011/11/09/john-key-confesses-to-his-role-in-destroying-the-global-economy-on-breakfast-tv/

And if the SEC in the US let’s the banks get away with their crap than why do you think they can’t here?
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June 19, 2012 2:11pm
thedavincimode

You really are a fuckwit aren’t you.

Report back with the answers to my questions, or shall I answer them for you.

1. Zero.
2. Zero.
3. Zero.

BTW, what on earth has your response got to do with the nutter accusation that you made?

You should remove a couple of layers of the tinfoil under your beanie. I think your head is over-heating. Please don’t drive in the meantime.

You might also consider watching your insightful breakfast TV program seated on the couch, rather than putting your head in the TV cabinet.
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June 19, 2012 2:17pm
Jinky

Re Wreck1080 at 12.47. Checked the most wanted list. as far as I can see they’re mostly part Euro/part Maori or part Euro/part PI Your point is?
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June 19, 2012 2:46pm
immigant

And now for short comedy break – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkbebJbvu_A
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June 19, 2012 2:54pm
wreck1080

@jinky i just looked at the first page, counting, looks like 14 maori, 1 caucasian.

I knew the PC brigade would come out.
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June 19, 2012 3:34pm
Manolo

Sue Kedgley would’ve had an orgasm: http://www2.cambridgema.gov/cityClerk/PolicyOrder.cfm?item_id=35515
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June 19, 2012 3:50pm
Michael Mckee

Northland Wahine (236) Says:
June 19th, 2012 at 12:30 pm

Noone does voluntary work for CYPS, they all get contracts and are paid depending on the age of the children.
They actually have an imbalance at present because young childrens allowance isn’t the same as teen when their is more work and the same costs.
each child is a different contract or entity and they go through the protocols applicable at that time for that entity.

Key and Co would have been briefed on this as the downward consequences of the bill being enacted and so would have known that the consequence of any CYPS interaction with a family for whatever reason would involve the reference to the new bill and the legal status of the human actions.
Plus some inside CYPS are autocratic in their modality which makes it all the more bruising for the families acted upon.
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June 19, 2012 4:21pm
philu

“..You got the “one-term-John” bit wrong too Phil, after New Zealand failed to follow your advice, and elected National in 2008…”

remind me again..what was the majority he/they got…?

“.. We’re also still waiting on the double-dip recession you predicted…”

..are we back in boom times are we..?

..dream on sailor..!

..what are you smoking..?

..can i have some..?

phillip ure whoar.co.nz
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June 19, 2012 4:29pm
chiz

The police just released NZ’s most wanted list.

And only one of them is a ginga!
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June 19, 2012 4:47pm
graham

Are you saying even the police don’t want gingas? 🙂
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June 19, 2012 4:49pm
Colville

There are certianly some interesting signs of recovery appearing. Housing is finally starting to push hard upward and developers are finally getting some greenfields work started. Having a construction sector with a solid work load ahead will be good for everyone. Its a lot of money that goes around and around thru a lot of peoples hands and pays a lot of wages.
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June 19, 2012 4:49pm
graham

My mate, who’s a builder, will be pleased – he’s had a few slack periods with no work recently.
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June 19, 2012 4:52pm
dime

Another shitty day in Wellington. How do people live here? I’m glad we punish so many public servants by making them stay here.

Anyway, I’m gonna go get smashed 🙂

I may even sample a local working girl. Give the local economy a boost… Or a dose.
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June 19, 2012 5:38pm
Monique Watson

Careful Dime. Blair St is clean but a well known Allen St bar had to send one of it’s wenches out to tell bed partners they should be tested for the clam clap. Wellington is well known for it’s micro climates.
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June 19, 2012 5:45pm
nasska

A little European geography lesson:

“Spain is not Greece.” Elena Salgado, Spanish Finance minister, February, 2010.

“Portugal is not Greece.” The Economist, April 2010.

“Greece is not Ireland.” George Papaconstantinou, Greek Finance minister, November, 2010.

“Spain is neither Ireland nor Portugal.” Elena Salgado, Spanish Finance minister, November 2010.

“Ireland is not in ‘Greek Territory.’”Irish Finance Minister Brian Lenihan. November 2010.

“Neither Spain nor Portugal is Ireland.” Angel Gurria, Secretary-general OECD, November, 2010.

“Spain is not Uganda” Spanish PM Rajoy. June, 2012.
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June 19, 2012 5:55pm
thedavincimode

Monique

lol “micro climates”

Don’t tell DOC or Fish & Game. Oops, how could I forget Forest & Bird.
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June 19, 2012 6:04pm
bhudson

remind me again..what was the majority he/they got…?

About 20 points over Labour in second place. What was it? 48% to 28%? That’s one hell of a beating.

How did your Mana vote go again?
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June 19, 2012 6:10pm
labours a joke

scottchris….Im here to help. Dont be shy.
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June 19, 2012 6:11pm
eszett

Very funny, nasska 🙂
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June 19, 2012 6:21pm
wiseowl

Just when we agree to provide a billion to the IMF.

New Zealand is not Greece.
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June 19, 2012 6:30pm
kowtow

Germany was hungary,so it took a bit of turkey dipped it in greece and ate it off china.
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June 19, 2012 6:31pm
philu

shit hudson..!..and there was me thinking this govt has a majority of one…the slimmest majority possible…

..i wonder how i a gained that impression..?

phillip ure whoar.co.nz
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June 19, 2012 6:37pm
labours a joke

Cant wait to see your ” best of so far ” tomorrow phool..highlite *snort* of the day *snigger*…
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June 19, 2012 6:44pm
bhudson

..i wonder how i a gained that impression..?

Perhaps because you can’t count Phil? Let’s see – confidence & supply agreements = government vs. the rest…

Nats = 59
MP = 3
ACT = 1
UF = 1
Total = 64

Versus

Lab = 34
Greens = 14
NZ First = 8
Mana = 1
Total = 57

Now Phil, when I learned maths that would have equated to a margin of 7 votes in favour of the National-led govt. Not the 1 that you seem to addle up…
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June 19, 2012 6:54pm
nasska

There is a downside to technology. Take caller ID for example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkCmzQLv7BQ&feature=youtu.be
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June 19, 2012 6:55pm
thedavincimode

hudson

The leech limits his arithmetical expertise to counting grams.
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June 19, 2012 6:57pm
bhudson

davinci,

Ha. It’s no wonder he always on edge then – the damn fool’s been shortchanging himself all this time…
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June 19, 2012 6:59pm
Steve (North Shore)

Now that is funny davinci and bhudson
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June 19, 2012 7:01pm
philu

glad u like it..joke..

..that alan turing piece today is fascinatimg…

,,eh..?

phillip ure whoar.co.nz
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June 19, 2012 7:11pm
Steve (North Shore)

Yes Watson
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June 19, 2012 7:23pm
wiseowl

The odt reports today that loans of $4.5m have been made to Dunedin council staff through their CCO.

I find this extraordinary.
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June 19, 2012 7:31pm
Steve (North Shore)

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10814110&ref=rss

The lowlifes will take this as a win of course. Remember this when it comes to Councill Elections. I want the bastards to pay for the damages, how about it Len? or do the RATEPAYERS just keep on paying?
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June 19, 2012 7:41pm
nasska

Steve (North Shore)

Did you notice in GD the other day a statement of martyrdom from Water Woman detailing her bravery in getting trespassed from Banks’ electoral office & then arrested & held at the Police station for an hour.

Where would you be without stalwarts such as her?
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June 19, 2012 7:47pm
Steve (North Shore)

Police had to let her go nasska. They could not stand the raving and screaming from the mad bitch.
We need her kind like a hole in the head
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June 19, 2012 7:53pm
bhudson

Nasska,

Malthus warned us that resources are limited. We must be careful! (I am sure he would have included pixels too if they had migrated from gardens to screens when he was about.)

So…

Where would you be without ~~stal~~warts such as her?

Surely that conveys what you meant? And with fewer pixel resources.
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June 19, 2012 7:56pm
nasska

“Mum? I’ve something to tell you, I think you better sit down.”

“What is it hunny?”

“Well,my period’s really late, and I think I’m pregnant. And to make it worse, I don’t know who the father is yet.”

“You’re not pregnant.”

“What? Yes I am.”

“We need to have a little chat, Peter.”
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June 19, 2012 8:00pm
nasska

bhudson

Point taken. Do you think I may have been gilding the lily (so to speak) ? 🙂
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June 19, 2012 8:01pm
Leaping Jimmy

http://www.tehrantimes.com/politics/98850-iran-russia-china-syria-to-launch-biggest-joint-war-game-in-mideast-

I hope this is true. I don’t know if it is, but it says it all. Syria has always been about Iran, and Russia and China will never allow Iran’s oil and natural gas to fall to Israel and the US. They just won’t. Simple as that.
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June 19, 2012 8:07pm
bhudson

Do you think I may have been gilding the lily..?

So much so that the Pharoahs would have had you interred in the Valley, were this another time and age…
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June 19, 2012 8:14pm
bhudson

LJ,

There are none so blind as those that will not see… There are no zebras there LJ. The last vestiges of east-west secular-political,alignment.

Russia and China like the status quo because they make money from the current regime. When was the last time (perhaps before Libya) that the UN and the US were pushing the same line?

You are straining for patterns that are not there. (if you were actually even near the truth, the UN would be running a mile while the US tried to run ramshod over the lot.)
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June 19, 2012 8:23pm
Leaping Jimmy

I’m afraid bhudson they are there but you’ll not see them unless you look for them. If you don’t then you’ll look straight through them even though they’re there, because you prefer not to see them.

You said last week for example there was no private ownership of the US Federal Reserve. Look it up. It’s easy to find.

http://rainbowwarrior2005.wordpress.com/2008/09/29/federal-reserve-owners-and-history/

http://www.dailypaul.com/77899/the-primary-owners-of-the-federal-reserve-bank-are

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10489

http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/federal_reserve.shtml

Of course if you go to the Federal Reserve website they might not mention the above and if you go to wiki I imagine you’ll find the same thing just as going to State Dept or CNN to find out if Syria really is a Brzezhinsky special is possibly a waste of time.

I know how you think because I used to think like you do, so I know you won’t change your mind over this. It takes a lot more than just a few blog posts to get people with your mindset to look at it seriously enough for you to change your pattern you’ve built up over your current lifetime of political thinking. But its all in the predictive power bhudson, and I saw the Arab Spring coming as soon as I found out Brzezhinsky was Obama’s senior FP advisor on his campaign. I knew that Egypt and Libya and Syria was going to happen, when I found that out. But if I still thought the way I used to think, that never would have occurred to me, back in 2008. The advantage of looking into this stuff is that you don’t lose what you had before. I still know what people like you and wat and Tom Hunter and DPF all think geopolitically, because like I say, I used to think like you guys. It’s just for me these days, that’s not the only thing I think, when I think geopolitically.
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June 19, 2012 8:52pm
graham

Steve (North Shore) and nasska: What Penny, unfortunately, does not seem to understand, is that the costs incurred by the Occupy protests, the sit-ins, the wailings, the vandalism of water pipes, and so on, are ultimately paid for by us – the honest citizens, who dutifully pay our rates and water bills (well, not me, because I’m on tank water).

As someone who would have us believe that she is standing up for those who cannot afford rates and water bills, the irony of this seems to have escaped her.
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June 19, 2012 9:17pm
Viking2

thedavincimode (3,175) Says:
June 19th, 2012 at 6:04 pm

Monique

lol “micro climates”

Don’t tell DOC or Fish & Game. Oops, how could I forget Forest & Bird.

Its not the birds in the forest ya have to worry about, its the bloody Landcrabs. If it smells fishy then it probably is landcrabs.
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June 19, 2012 9:32pm
wat dabney

“I saw the Arab Spring coming as soon as I found out Brzezhinsky was Obama’s senior FP advisor on his campaign. I knew that Egypt and Libya and Syria was going to happen, when I found that out”

What a complete load of cobblers.

A popular uprising across the Arab world, which no one could have predicted any more than anyone saw the sudden end of the Soviet Union, and which is liable to result in more extreme Muslim theocracies than before.

Conspiracy theories are popular simply because they flatter the believers.
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June 19, 2012 9:47pm
graham

Some good news, for a change.

“Lost tramper found alive in bush”

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10814147

The guy went for a tramp in the Hunuas on Saturday, wearing only a T-shirt, lightweight jacket and three-quarter length shorts. I didn’t think things were sounding too good for him, to be honest, so really glad he’s been found alive and well.
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