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May 28, 2012 8:00am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 28 May 2012

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Manolo

Someone’s personal history (including being a refugee) may well provide mitigating factors

Not at all! Crime is crime and we are all the same when comes to the law.
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May 28, 2012 2:53pm
Longknives

Phil- I’m not going to ‘Whoar’..simply because I don’t want to give you the satisfaction of having doubled the numbers of viewers for 2012.
And yes I am fairly confident about my previous assertion..(I used to be heavily involved in the gym scene)
I repeat- Longknives is fairly confident that Schwarzenegger, Ferrigno, Yates and Haney got there on a diet of a little bit more than Lentils, Bean Sprouts and Cannabis!!
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May 28, 2012 2:54pm
philu

“..fats are coming from fish, almonds and olive oil…”

so you are almost there…

..did you know that seitan has seven times the protein of meat..?.per weight..?

..that is the one that has my dogs..and cat..doing cartwheels in the kitchen..

..and it is so easy to make up a batch of it…(it has the texture of meat when cooked in dishes..i don’t like it myself..but it is good for those jonesing for those flesh-textures/sensations..

..i call it meat-methadone..)

..(and ‘roids’..?..no..(shudder..!..who needs a shrinking penis..and ‘roid-rage..?..)

..i walk the dogs..i cycle..and i do light weights..(hand-dumbells..)…and some sit-ups..

..that’s pretty much it…

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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May 28, 2012 2:56pm
Griff

You forgot the mung beans sharp one they are important to the diet of the monkey
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May 28, 2012 2:58pm
philu

but you won’t go to google..?..knives..?

..so mired in yr own ignorances..?

..fear of seeing evidence that questions yr certainties..?

..and just a repeat orifice-pluck..

..eh..?

…you do realise that does make you look a little silly..eh..?

..and sodden with hubris are you..?..already know everything..?

..you must be quite old…

..eh..?

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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May 28, 2012 2:59pm
Longknives

“..that is the one that has my dogs..and cat..doing cartwheels in the kitchen..”

Nah mate that’s the hallucinogenics playing tricks with you…..
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May 28, 2012 3:00pm
dime

phil – the thing is, i love eating animals 😀

in a couple of weeks ill drop a shake or two for more animal flesh 🙂

once im used to eating so much again…

infact its shake n almonds time
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May 28, 2012 3:01pm
philu

so..are you a ‘roid-man..there dime..?

..if not now..did you bulk up that way..?.

…most did..

..do the hookers have to ooh and aah over how ‘big’ you are..?

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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May 28, 2012 3:03pm
hmmokrightitis

Careful on the rice dime. When I was training for IM #2, I had real problems with constant colds. Dr I spoke to told me to steer clear of whole grains like brown rice and vogels etc. Did just that, and bamm, within weeks, back at it with no issues. Helped me through numerous IM races and a decent handful of ultra marathons as well. And Im no skinny prick either 🙂
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May 28, 2012 3:06pm
Chthoniid

Scott Chris (4,185) Says:
May 28th, 2012 at 2:18 pm

Did you know that the phrase “Cellar Door” is considered to be one of the most beautiful sounds in the English language?

Why, yes I did. I am guessing you haven’t seen Donnie Darko then?
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May 28, 2012 3:09pm
thedavincimode

dime

I hope you’re waving a geiger counter over that tuna before you scoff it. It might have been undertaking its own training regime near Japan.
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May 28, 2012 3:19pm
dime

hmmo – thats interesting. i may go to sweet potato..

phil – i only have to look at weights and i gain muscle. just genetics. some people are born forwards and some people are born to be old school backs and marathon runners!
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May 28, 2012 3:27pm
adze

What seitan recipe do you use Phil?
I’m curious what it’s like – not likely to replace meat entirely but I like the sound of a quality protein that’s cheaper than meat (as long as it tastes good) 🙂
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May 28, 2012 3:47pm
philu

i used to love cross-country-running..

..seitan recipie:

..the one for the animals..i only put a pinch of salt ..for taste..salt is bad for them..

..but it is simple..

..1)..put on large point of water..bring to boil..

..while that is happening just mix weight for weight in a bowl..(ie..one cup seitan flour..i cup water..2..2..etc..

..that mixes together like a dough..and you work it like a dough..

..then flatten and cut into smallish squares..

..leave to sit for 15 min..

..then drop them into boiling water for about 20 mins..they will puff-up etc…

..then remove from water..let drain..

..and there you have it…

..you can freeze it ok…and chop it up like meat..and mix in a stew/w.h.y..

..it is like tofu in the sense that it takes on the flavours of the other ingredients..

..so it is a blank canvas..you can make it taste however you like..

..and you will totally fool/sate carnivores..should you choose..

..and like i said..going by weight..it is seven times the protein of meat..

..whoar..!

philllip ure@whoar.co.nz
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May 28, 2012 4:21pm
Monique Watson

Lime Lapse photography of the Supermoon over the Golden Gate Bridge and some photos taken today on the 75th anniversary:

http://nowoccupy.blogspot.com/2012/05/golden-gate-bridge-may-27th-2012.html
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May 28, 2012 4:30pm
philu

“..Longknives is fairly confident that Schwarzenegger, Ferrigno, Yates and Haney got there on a diet of a little bit more than Lentils, Bean Sprouts and Cannabis!!..”

yes..a truckload/shitload of roids did have their part to play…

..eh..?

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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May 28, 2012 4:37pm
Longknives

I thought you were ‘Pro-Drugs’ Phil??
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May 28, 2012 4:42pm
philu

only some drugs…

(and on that subject…a decent whack of pure ‘e’ wd/cd do a lot of you a lot of good…

..i haven’t used it for over 20 yrs..but it is a really good one for clearing a lot of crap out of yr system…

..which is why therapists loved using it..(and are now allowed to again..in america..)

..the ‘given’ being a decent dose of ‘e’ cd take care of a couple of years worth of therapy in one ‘hit..(as it were..)

..and it isn’t called the ‘love’ drug for necessarily sexual reasons..

..it means you see the good in others…often in people yu have known for years…you see them in a new positive light..

..(and the best piss-take of it is in family guy…after peter takes a dose..)

..phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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May 28, 2012 4:49pm
Longknives

“only some drugs…”

So some drugs are good and some drugs are bad ‘Eh’??
And you are the self-appointed guardian of what society should and shouldn’t take??
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May 28, 2012 4:53pm
Luc Hansen

Dime seems to be paying good money to just excrete excess protein. He should cut back and he would probably be able to entertain at least one more hooker per week.
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May 28, 2012 5:30pm
chiz

Families Commission funding slashed. And the number of commissioners has been cut from seven to one.
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May 28, 2012 5:31pm
philu

“..And you are the self-appointed guardian of what society should and shouldn’t take??..”

well i have experienced a lot of them…

..so have something to say from that perspective..

..and it is not my word..’

..try googling ‘mdma therapy’…..

..and learn from people far more learned on that subject/topic than me..

..widen yr gaze…

..eh..?

..and yes..drugs are a health issue..not a justice issue..

..and pot shd be legalised/taxed..

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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May 28, 2012 5:40pm
Lucia Maria

Longknives at 11:21am,

Zombie Apocalypse in Miami!! I knew it was coming….Lucia Maria get some bibles and plenty of holy water…

The man probably needed an exorcism with a real priest. A bit late now as he’s dead.
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May 28, 2012 5:46pm
chiz

wreck1080:Assad’s wife is also evil.

She’s also hot.
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May 28, 2012 5:47pm
Monique Watson

And from Golden Gate to NippleGate:

http://nowoccupy.blogspot.com/2012/05/nipplegate.html

It’s a good thing that the commissioners have been reduced. The money is directed to parenting programmes such as:
Parents As First Teachers:(PAFT), Playcentre’s SPACE and the Plunket version.

@ Scott Chris. I may have to name my next Diablo III character Salador.
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May 28, 2012 5:50pm
Longknives

So MDMA and Cannabis are all wholesome goodness and alcohol is evil? Is that what you are saying Phil??
What do you mean by “widen your gaze”? Are you encouraging me to take illegal drugs?

Are you really the sort of person who should be raising a child?
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May 28, 2012 5:52pm
bereal

and still,

the drong master trains his drongs.

The drongs seem to be lining up to be trained.

These drongs seem to have the same mindset as Mansons drongs.
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May 28, 2012 5:59pm
bereal

Shall we count these drongs ? Who are they?

i mean the drongs that have addressed philu as an equal today.

It’s actually a suprise which otherwise seemingly intelligent correspondents have
joined the ranks of the gormless drongs in thrall to philu.
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May 28, 2012 6:07pm
philu

well knives..it is hardly a revelation..

..how many people die from alcohol each and every year..?

why did that doctor from the hospital emergency say that the ratio of drug patients…

..is 500 alcohol..to one…?

..how many die from pot each year..?

..same doctor said they never have just a pot admission…

..now..like i said..this is hardly contentious..these are clear/stark facts..from the experts in that business…

..and if ‘evil’ is the term you wish to use for alcohol..i and many others wouldn’t argue with you…

..and ‘widen yr gaze..’..means..try reading some evidence..and not just blowing cliched ignorances outta yr butt…eh..?

..and as for ‘children’..

..what would you rather..yr 19 yr old daughter having a smoke/laugh with some friends…using the safest intoxicant there is..

..or would you rather she was projectile-vomiting alcohol into a queen st gutter at 3.00am..?

..eh..?

..using/blasted on the most dangerous of all the drugs..?

f.f.s..!

..phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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May 28, 2012 6:08pm
Leaping Jimmy

By the end of WW2, America had the largest war industry with Russia close behind. After WW2, the biggest business became the Cold War. Then it became the War on Drugs, and now it’s the WAR ON TERROR which is being turned against the American Citizens.
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May 28, 2012 6:15pm
Longknives

I would much rather my 19 year-old daughter be out having a drink with her friends and socialising as a normal member of society (so long as Dime stays well away…) than sitting at home smashing her brain on dope with a group of smelly unemployed dropkicks (like most potheads)…
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May 28, 2012 6:17pm
Manolo

Families Commission funding slashed. And the number of commissioners has been cut from seven to one.

Wait for the token opposition from the whorish Peter Dunne. He’ll swallow this as long as he’s kept as a Minister.
Ah, the principled political prostitute!
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May 28, 2012 6:18pm
philu

i mean..what the fuck is good about alcohol..?

…it is a downer..a depressant..a dull numbing (non)-‘high’…

..it turns people into violent-gargoyles..

..it kills people if they overdose..(impossible to od on pot…you’ll fall asleep first..)

..and leaves you with a foul hangover..

..from the poisons it contains..

..what the fuck is ‘good’ about that..?

..it is poisonous/foul muck..

..get yr life back..stop using booze…

..phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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May 28, 2012 6:22pm
philu

“..than sitting at home smashing her brain on dope..”

got any actual evidence of that..?..that pot causes brain-damage..?

..or are we just seeing another hysterical/ignorance-driven butt-explosion from you..?

..and..not much chance of you widening yr gaze…eh..?

..you like it nice and narrow..eh..?

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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May 28, 2012 6:25pm
Steve (North Shore)

“got any actual evidence of that..?..that pot causes brain-damage..?”

Broken all of the mirrors because of denial Phool?
No wonder you have such bad luck, as in not finding a job
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May 28, 2012 6:30pm
philu

“..smelly unemployed dropkicks (like most potheads)…..”

you do know that a lot of mp’s..from all parties..smoke/use pot…eh..?

..you really haven’t got a fucken clue on this subject..eh..?

..aren’t you coming down with cliche-o.d yet…?

..you are just piling them on top of each other..

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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May 28, 2012 6:32pm
Leaping Jimmy

phil pot makes it ok to do nothing.

You look at pot smokers and that’s what they do. All day. Sit round doing nothing. Look what you do.

You remove pot from those people for even 6 months and I guarantee a significant % will change their lives by starting living it rather than just lighting up then thinking about living it – hur hur.

I agree on all the other health things vis a vis pot vs alcohol but it’s a moderation and balance thing. Lots of people use drugs with no effect – why that girl who was a P user and well respected who just died last week, I bet there are thousands just like her. And lots of people use as much pot as you do and have a job. Pot is not the only thing causing your issues phil nor is it the only thing causing issues for all long term unemployed who smoke it.

But for you people who are long term unemployed, while you are physically fit and healthy, it’s a complete tragedy, to see you waste your lives. It’s not surprising. You must get so bored. One can only imagine. But at the same time, do yourselves a favour. Give it at least 6 months without. Then look at who you are then, vs who you used to be.
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May 28, 2012 6:34pm
Steve (North Shore)

Obama used to like it as well Phool, but they all work. You do not work.
You are chewing on the fat all day every day. If you earned your money and paid TAX then you can smoke as much dak at you like.
The TAXPAYER is funding your bludging leeching life
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May 28, 2012 6:38pm
philu

“..You must get so bored…”

no..have never had that problem…

http://whoar.co.nz/

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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May 28, 2012 6:39pm
Monique Watson

Actooally Manolo it was because of Peter Dunne that the number of commissioners has been slashed. He isn’t going to oppose it given he advocated for this change to happen so the funding could be diverted to parenting programmes. You might want to check the Supply and Confidence Agreements before making rubbish statements.
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May 28, 2012 6:46pm
Steve (North Shore)

Phool has being commenting about dime’s fitness program. He is now advising dime, because he is far fitter and stronger because of his vegan diet and clean living.

What a drug fucked train wreck you are Phool
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May 28, 2012 6:51pm
Johnboy

Shit dinner was nice.

Two giant greasy old pork chops, cooked to perfection, mashed spud with cheese and chives, apple sauce and kernal corn!!

Sigh!!

I’ll scoff the other two chops for my midnight snackl! 🙂 🙂
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May 28, 2012 6:52pm
Johnboy

Poor old Robin Gibb. Committed vegan. No alcohol. Intestinal cancer at 62!

Shit happens!
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May 28, 2012 6:54pm
bereal

some people on this site make statements and points and back them up with considered argument.

Then we have a loser bludger leech like philu who just abuses others and asks smart arse questions so that he can
scoff at and lord it over any fool stupid enough to take him as an equal and try to answer his questions.

Are you one of the drongs that philu controls ?

Understand his shallow act, has any other asked so many queations today ?

are you going to jump through his hoop ?
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May 28, 2012 6:56pm
philu

i have always found it is the cry of frustration from a begrudging inferiority complex..

..those who say other people are ‘smart-arse’…

..have you noticed that..?

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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May 28, 2012 7:00pm
dime

My steak was delicious!

Luc – 1.5 grams protein for every pound. Pretty standard bodybuilding level.

Phil – what do you eat in a day? I’m actually curious.
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May 28, 2012 7:01pm
bereal

see what i mean. @ 7.00

pull the monkeys chain, the monkey will speak.

Hold the chain, control the monkey.

i make the monkey dance.

The monkey can’t help himself.

Silly monkey.
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May 28, 2012 7:04pm
Lucia Maria

Phil,

And yet Our Lord chooses bread and wine in order to make Himself present on our world. That’s a divine blessing on red wine.

The thing with alcohol is that as long as you have it in moderation, you don’t suppress your soul and thereby become merely an intelligent drunk animal. There’s no such distinction with drugs, you’re either high or you are not.
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May 28, 2012 7:05pm
nasska

Notice to all vegetarians & vegans…..my food shits over your food!
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May 28, 2012 7:06pm
Johnboy

When I buried the mother in law Lucia, the priest, ( after quaffing the wine) made a point of letting me know he preferred Whisky. What lesson should I have taken from this revelation?
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May 28, 2012 7:08pm
philu

i always start the day with a killer porridge…

..those big fat wholemeal porridge bits..not that powdered muck..

..and loaded/cooked with whatever fruit is to hand…

..tonight i am having a pasta dish…

..i have indian a lot..

..i make wicked vegan burgers of various types..(loaded with avo/hummus..etc..)

more here:..

http://whoar.co.nz/?s=vegan++recipies

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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May 28, 2012 7:09pm
Johnboy

Porridge is nice Magpie but only in the Scottish manner. Lots of salt to keep the blood pressure up! 🙂
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May 28, 2012 7:10pm
philu

lucia..i can’t be fucked bouncing biblical-quotes back and forth..

..and this is based on yr belief system..

..so for me it is a strawman argument…

..meaningless..

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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May 28, 2012 7:11pm
Johnboy

Salt is cheaper than Viagra of course laddie! 🙂
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May 28, 2012 7:12pm
nasska

Lucia Maria

….”Our Lord chooses bread and wine “….. but he didn’t stick around to see what the long term effects were on his liver.

AND

….”you’re either high or you are not.”…..respectfully – crap! If you were to smoke cannabis you might just have a drag on a joint being passed around or decide to fry your mind for the weekend. The degree of high is relative to amount used.
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May 28, 2012 7:14pm
big bruv

“And yet Our Lord chooses bread and wine ”

And the Priests choose boys and Whiskey.
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May 28, 2012 7:15pm
big bruv

Oh…and the people at WINZ were most interested in Phools bus drivers licence.

Expect much more on this one….
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May 28, 2012 7:18pm
bereal

Lucia Maria @7.05

Are you starting to see what i was getting at ?

You answered a shithead in good faith, and he dissmissed you and
he shat on you @ 7.11 for being so stupid.

Did anyone ever tell you how good it feels when you stop knocking your head into a brick wall ?
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May 28, 2012 7:19pm
Lucia Maria

He was obviously having you on, Johnboy. That’s if he was referring to the wine during the Mass. If it was outside of the Mass, then anything goes.

Strawman, huh, Phil? Ok, if you say so.
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May 28, 2012 7:20pm
bereal

You talk ABOUT a piece of shit.

You don’t talk TO a piece of shit.

When you talk to a piece of shit as an equal, ….well…..?

Why would you do that ?
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May 28, 2012 7:22pm
philu

‘..Lots of salt to keep the blood pressure up..’

salt yes..but just a pinch..you still get the taste/flavour..and a 120 over 70 blood pressure…

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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May 28, 2012 7:22pm
Lucia Maria

Bereal, I’ve known Phil for years. 🙂 I do know what I’m getting myself into when I talk to him.
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May 28, 2012 7:24pm
Lucia Maria

Nasska,

Ok, I stand corrected.

However, my experience with people who smoke dope is that they are not there in their bodies. It’s weird, really. Something I noticed when I was an Alexander teacher. I can’t really explain it better than that.

At least alcohol wears off a lot faster than that.
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May 28, 2012 7:26pm
labours a joke

aww phhool ya such a toool…mmmm I had lambs fry and bacon for dinner with tripe and onions..heaven.
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May 28, 2012 7:26pm
Johnboy

Phils bus. 🙂

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmEEnWEaeRk
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May 28, 2012 7:27pm
philu

lucia..i don’t accept yr belief system…

..how can a supposed quote from your belief system have any relevance for/to me…?

phillip ure @whoar.co.nz
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May 28, 2012 7:27pm
Johnboy

Lucia is a missionary Beryl.

Let her do her stuff! 🙂
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May 28, 2012 7:32pm
Johnboy

Every Phill she saves is 5000 less Hail Mary’s! 🙂
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May 28, 2012 7:33pm
Steve (North Shore)

Johnboy @7.27

Most of them look like Phillip Ure, all total losers.
Never seen him? just Google Phillip Ure, the very first image shows the POS
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May 28, 2012 7:34pm
Steve (North Shore)

Now the POS will start crying about his departed dog. Once it’s in the Google cache it’s there forever Phool
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May 28, 2012 7:39pm
Northland Wahine

Shiptons parole conditions are making his life difficult. By all means, feel free to return to prison and complete your sentence.(finally manages to post in the right thread!)
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May 28, 2012 7:45pm
Johnboy

One should never victimise a man who is nice to dogs and can’t afford shoes Steve.
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May 28, 2012 7:50pm
Johnboy

Funnily enough he bears a striking resemblance to Johnboy! 🙂

Weird that! 🙂
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May 28, 2012 7:52pm
HB

http://www.hawkesbaytoday.co.nz/news/hbs-new-top-cop-a-woman/1395824/

This ‘rationalisation’ of the police in Hastings and Napier in conjunction with the instruction to arrest 13% less people is a real slap in the face for the people of Hawkes Bay.
It is a big lie that only two police will be affected by this.
“and alternatives are being considered for the two officers affected,” – actually I know for a fact that many more police than this will be affected.

I guess the instruction to arrest 13% less people (and let people who have committed a crime off with a ‘stern warning’) means the stats will look good. ‘Look everyone! The crime rates in Hawkes Bay are down! The amalgamation has been great progress for Hawkes Bay!”
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May 28, 2012 7:56pm
Steve (North Shore)

Very weird 🙂 You could send him some old working boots Johnboy
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May 28, 2012 7:56pm
Johnboy

I always think our Police look very businesslike dressed in feathers HB! 🙂
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May 28, 2012 7:58pm
philu

i don’t have a beard any more..and my hair is a bit longer/rougher….

..so i don’t really look like that any more..

…shave off yr beard jb..if you have had it for awhile..

..it is a blast…enjoy the change/difference..

..and you can always grow it back..

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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May 28, 2012 7:59pm
Luc Hansen

Dime

Your maths don’t really stack up. 1.5 gms/kg of lean body mass of protein equates, for you to roughly 115g of pure protein per day. A steak is roughly 30-40 percent protein, so just one 150g steak gives you 45-60gms. Add breakfast, morning tea, lunch (probably a similar amount of protein), those stupid shakes, cereal and plant protein, and I think you will find you are far in excess the formula, especially given that you are a reasonably big boy with a healthy appetite.

Most of us overestimate the amount of protein needed. When I first calculated the amount I needed to gain lean body mass I actually cut down the protein I was eating. With training, my weight went up, my fat went down and good muscle developed. No shakes or gimmicks needed – although I swore by my after workout Kilkenny at the bar next foor.
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May 28, 2012 8:00pm
nasska

A cockie’s son from outback Australia goes off to university. As these things go, halfway through the semester he has foolishly squandered all of his money. So he calls home. “Dad,” he says, “you won’t believe what modern education is developing. They actually have a program here in Brisbane that will teach our dog Ol’ Blue how to talk.”
“That’s amazing!” his Dad says. “How do I get Ol’ Blue in that program?”
“Just send him down here with $2,000,” the young Jackaroo says, “I’ll get him in the course.”
So … his father sends the dog and $2,000.

About two-thirds through the semester, the money again runs out. The boy calls home.
“So how’s Ol’ Blue doing, son?” his father wants to know.
“Awesome! Dad, he’s talking up a storm. But you just won’t believe this. They’ve had such good results with talking, they’ve begun to teach the animals how to read.”
“Read?!” exclaims his father. “No kidding! How do we get Ol’ Blue in that program?”
“Just send $4,500. I’ll get him in the class.”

The money promptly arrives. But our hero has a problem. At the end of the year, his father will find out the dog can neither talk nor read. So he shoots the dog. When he arrives home at the end of the year, his father is all excited.

“Where’s Ol’ Blue? I just can’t wait to talk with him, and see him read something!”
“Dad,” the boy says, “I have some grim news. Yesterday morning, just before we left to drive home, Ol’ Blue was in the living room, kicked back in the recliner, reading the Wall Street Journal. Then he suddenly turned to me and asked, ‘So, is your daddy still messing around with that little redhead barmaid at the pub?'”

The father groans and whispers, “I hope you shot that bastard before he talks to your Mother!”
“I sure did, Dad!”
“That’s my boy!”
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May 28, 2012 8:00pm
Johnboy

I was once told that I had a long lost twin brother.

I believe now that mum lost him on purpose! 🙂
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May 28, 2012 8:00pm
nasska

Ah! May 28th. Tonight’s the night Luc gets his leg over.

He’s ginger and it’s his fortnightly cycle club meeting.
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May 28, 2012 8:08pm
krazykiwi

I’m picking a Greek exit from the Euro this weekend. The rather large task of attempting to re-capitalise the Greek banks needs time, and a weekend in which little NZ’s trading day doesn’t start on Monday gives an extra 2 hours over most weekend. We’ll see ….
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May 28, 2012 8:13pm
Steve (North Shore)

She should have shot him Johnboy 🙁
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May 28, 2012 8:15pm
Luc Hansen

I had a bit of a chat to rodney Hide through his weekend column – my comment is on page 5 of the list.

This was his reply:

Luc Hansen: I am still getting a feel for the column. I do more economics over at the National Business Review each week if you are interested. I like a good natural environment and I favour mining and oil exploration. Yes. I am totally opposed to the ETS and have long concluded that human-induced global warming is bunk. I think Richard Treadgold is great.

What I find interesting about Rodney’s take on things is the absolutism present in so many of his stances. For example, I had complained that Rodney painted all Kiwis as anti-mining and anti-oil exploitation. Some are, but most take a more nuanced view. But there is nothing in Rodney’s comment on that matter that recognises that mining and oil exploitation do serious damage to the environment, and that therefore, unless you commit to wholesale environmental destruction, there must be a trade off arrived at. Surely this is the art of politics and maybe that’s why Rodney is no longer in the game?

And his statement on climate change takes his natural bent towards absolutism to it’s logical, risible conclusion. He says, basically, the science is “bunk”.

Which part of it?

Does he deny we know the make up of the gases of the atmosphere to the millionth degree?

Does he deny the greenhouse effect, discovered about 150 years ago, that keeps out planet warm enough for humans to thrive?

Does he deny that every litre of petrol deposits 3.5kgs of carbon into the atmosphere?

etc etc

This is what I think his and the far-right’s problem with climate change really is. It means the greenies were right all along and we can’t deny it any longer. We are destroying the very planetary environment that nurtured us.

Worst of all, the solution is collective action.

For those mad buggers on the right, that’s the end of the discussion.

And I won’t take up his request for me to spend 10 bucks a week on reading his NBR column. It’s just difficult to take him seriously.
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May 28, 2012 8:18pm
Luc Hansen

Ah! May 28th. Tonight’s the night Luc gets his leg over again thank you, Nasska.

And thanks for the reminder: it’s birthday No 40 for son No 1. I better give him a call.
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May 28, 2012 8:21pm
Johnboy

I’ve been afraid to shave my beard Phil in case my weak chin should be laughed at by other rural folks. Besides that the slimy streaks of lanolin may betray me.

How did you cope with the foolish laughter that going bareback invoked from your one or two friends?
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May 28, 2012 8:22pm
krazykiwi

It’s just difficult to take [Ridney Hide] seriously.

Fair enough Luc. Although he’ll certainly have more people willing to pay for his insights than for yours. I imagine you’re right up there with phil on the insights and news aggregation earnings.
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May 28, 2012 8:22pm
Johnboy

It’s not “aggregation” KK it’s “agglomeration” combining little bits of crap into huge piles of shit! 🙂
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May 28, 2012 8:25pm
nasska

Luc

…”Luc gets his leg over again thank you, Nasska”…..

Good God man…….surely you’re not yet so decrepit that you’re unable to do the job properly the first time!
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May 28, 2012 8:32pm
Griff

This time of the year gives me night mares
I have co habited with three woman in my life
Their birthdays are the 26 27 and 28 of may
Every time I get the birthdays wrong it costs
3xflowers 1dinner and no sex for weeks
bloody Gemini’s
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May 28, 2012 8:32pm
Pauleastbay

Jesus Griff

I hope there are no mothers or sisters in your list, that would be a bit tres Christchurch for most of us
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May 28, 2012 8:34pm
krazykiwi

JB – I understand. At 5am phil is up, full of shit, and with nowhere to go. After 3 meaningless hours of constipated abuse of whoar’s keyboard full-stop, the Kiwiblog GD is posted, and the literary laxatives kick in.
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May 28, 2012 8:35pm
Johnboy

Do you still, how shall I say, indulge in the menage au quatre Griff?

If so I am interested in comparing notes.

Purely from a scientific point of view you understand! 🙂
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May 28, 2012 8:38pm
Johnboy

And oh the relief KK!! 🙂
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May 28, 2012 8:39pm
Pauleastbay

JB

I think we should establish whether there are any blood relatives involved prior to your question
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May 28, 2012 8:41pm
nasska

Pauleastbay

In rural NZ we prefer to call the practise, “line breeding”.
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May 28, 2012 8:43pm
Griff

If you saw my sister, loverly lady she is you would reconsider that statement
she is past the proverbial roll it in flower by a large and I do mean large margin
I would suggest that you insinuation is not physically possible
and as I was born in ChCh does it show that much even after forty years as a jafa?
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May 28, 2012 8:47pm
philu

that being three geminis…that is actually at least six different woman..

..and i hafta say..

..you are a tiger for punishment..aren’t you..?

..one gemini in a lifetime is usually more than enough for most…

..phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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May 28, 2012 8:47pm
nasska

In fact it has been going on in Coastal Wairarapa for over 150 years. The downside is a lot of webbing between fingers & toes…..also a tendency to dimwittedness but I understand that practise is now limited to marriage between cousins.
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May 28, 2012 8:47pm
Pauleastbay

As they Griff

You can take the boy out of Christchurch but you can’t take the ……….
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