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General Debate 22 May 2012

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Dime

Good point, have you checked out your neighbours yet?

You would not want to be living next to socialists or bible bashing morons.
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May 22, 2012 8:31pm
Johnboy

Or an ex-bus driver! 🙂
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May 22, 2012 8:32pm
Viking2

Is NZ getting more earthquakes?
By Ken Ring
May 7th, 2012

NZ has averaged 15,000 recorded earthquake events per year since first records began with the thousands of earthquakes in Christchurch in 1869-70.

So far, about 2 million earthquakes have been documented for NZ. They have not suddenly appeared. NZ gets the second greatest number of earthquakes in the world, behind Japan, which is why we are known as The Shaky Isles.

Nearly all countries have earthquakes but for followers of the news there is less appetite for historical analysis and more of an interest in records being broken.

Successive generations like to think they live in a time when history is being made. It may spoil our party to learn that in 1994 there were more Canterbury earthquakes than in the last 18 months. Yet that is fact.

The difficulty in amassing global earthquake data is that technological improvements change, replace and increase instrumentation. As more seismographs are installed, more earthquakes can be and have been located.

However, the number of larger earthquakes (magnitude 6.0 and greater) has stayed relatively constant. It is better to look at closer perigee years (moon closer to earth) and see if extreme weather has mainly occurred then, compared to lapse years between.

As Apollo astronauts found in 1969, when earth and moon get closer (perigee), there is more seismic activity on both.

The first week of September 2010 perigee was the second closest for the whole year. March 2011 saw the closest perigee for 17-19 years (according to how it is calculated), which accounted for extensive destruction in Japan and Christchurch during Feb/March 2011.

Averaging distances over a year gives years when the moon has been averagely closer compared to other years. Looking at the 112 years from 1900 to present, 2011 was the 4th closest moon-year.

All years in that top ten brought us unusually powerful earthquakes. In the 112 years, the order of 10 closest perigees has been 1905, 1918 , 1936, 2011, 1993, 1980, 1962, 2020, 1949, 1927 and 1931.

In August of 1904 a 7mag, the 15th biggest earthquake ever in NZ occurred in the Wairarapa, causing chimney-falling damage over the whole lower NI a week after a big 6mag earthquake in Hawke’s Bay.

November 1918 saw a 6.8mag earthquake, the 30th in the biggest-ever scale, in the far south. The other years have also brought us destructive events.

Prior to 2010, 1994 was the last-biggest previous earthquake year in Canterbury. At Arthur’s Pass on 18 June 1994 the 6.7M shake was the largest on NZ land since 1968.

More than 10,600 aftershocks were recorded in 32 days following that quake.

Altogether there were 12,000 earthquakes recorded in 1994 (vs 10,000 since Sept 2010).

Arthur’s Pass is only 80kms from the Christchurch CBD. Buildings swayed in Christchurch and many people fled into the streets. Media were not particularly interested because there was no loss of life, and today 1994’s activity is mostly forgotten.

Close to the 8th closest perigee year, 1947 saw large earthquakes in Canterbury, including a 7.1 magnitude earthquake in Poverty Bay on March 26 1947 generating a tsunami scare.

Another came in 17 May 1947, caused by another 7.1 magnitude earthquake in Tolaga Bay. And 1931 (11th closest perigee year), on 3 February was the Napier earthquake.

This type of number crunching can go on and on, and I will not bore the reader, but it puts into perspective 2011 as a perigee year. Whilst 2011 was the 4th closest perigee year in over a century, it is comforting that 2012 is only 57th, with 2013 a powerless 111th.

It means we have 2-3 years relative quiet, ample time to erect a new city, but contractors will have to get cracking because after 2014 seismic risks could creep back.

In the 110-year perigee-closeness list, 2014 lies at 62nd, 2015 at an untrustworthy 26th and 2016 an almost equally risky 29th.

So 2015-16 will again be close-moon years, with equivalents to these being 1997(27th) and 2002 (28th).

The bad news is that 1997 was a hugely active year for global earthquakes and between 2001-2003, NZ had four 6M-7M earthquakes – in May 2001 a 6.5M (62nd) in Raglan; in August 2001, a 7.1M (10th biggest-ever in NZ) just east of the North Island; and two months later a 6.3M (99th biggest-ever) in the same area.

And in August 2003 there was a 7M (21st biggest-ever) off Te Anau.

We can only look to what happened in the past to find a pattern. Earthquakes have always been part of our lives and it is time we realized that, just as they have been for many years in other countries on the Ring of Fire.

They have always been a threat in NZ and it is unwise to ignore them for too long.
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May 22, 2012 8:32pm
Griff

Dime could ask them if they ever done it against a tree
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May 22, 2012 8:33pm
dime

Bruv – not much chance of a lefty being my neighbour 🙂 i guess theres the off chance of ending up next to some idiot in a high paying public sector job. that would suck.

their wont be any teachers 🙂 unless they were smart enough to marry a man with a decent job
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May 22, 2012 8:35pm
Johnboy

Would that include male teachers too dime?
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May 22, 2012 8:36pm
philu

doing a crimp:..asking a woman if she has ever had sex up against a tree…(a practice hereafter known as crimping..)

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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May 22, 2012 8:37pm
Johnboy

What did you have for din-dins tonight Magpie?
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May 22, 2012 8:38pm
Steve (North Shore)

Viking2.

Unwise to ignore a lot of things, but I’m gonna read more about Ken Ring 🙂
btw when is the next big event?
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May 22, 2012 8:39pm
Griff

I as going to post doing a fletch
fletching= look it up for your self this is a public space and even I draw the line somewhere
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May 22, 2012 8:40pm
dime

johnboy – probably. the same dudes who read “timmy has two dads” to five year olds
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May 22, 2012 8:41pm
Johnboy

No it’s that I was worried you were moving to Kabul dime! 🙂
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May 22, 2012 8:43pm
Lucia Maria

Porn will make you impotent, Dime.
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May 22, 2012 8:45pm
Luc Hansen

hj (2,249) Says:

May 22nd, 2012 at 7:24 pm
Mombiot accuses the Left of genocide denial when done by opponents of the U.S and it’s allies.

Thanks for the heads up there, hj. I usually check out Monbiot regularly but I’ve obviously been remiss, lately. To fix that, I have subscribed to his email notification service.

But best of all, when I arrived at Monbiot’s place, I found this huge bunfight on genocide denial between Monbiot and one of my favourite truthtellers, Noam Chomsky. I’ve read through the correspondence between the two, and, on balance, while I see Monbiot’s point, Chomsky’s is pretty compelling. It seems to come down difference in audiences for a journalist and an academic, but I’ll do some research as time allows, just for my own edification.

@Dime: It shouldn’t be Phil getting stung for demerits. That honour should go to all you ex-school bullies who see an easy target (an honest man) and can’t resist the urge to kick him in the goolies, then scurry for the cover of demerits when he fights back. It’s not often I agree with Viking2, but he got it right earlier on tonight.

David Garrett is a prime example here. At the drop of a hat, he offers to call around to the homes of those whose comments he doesn’t like, and, of course, just has to feel the need to reassure the potential visitees of his peaceful intentions. Fuck, I’m sure the whole country would be ecstatic if DG made a fool of himself yet again That would hopefully be enough to cost him his practising certificate.

Finally, while at Monbiot’s site, I came across this little beauty of an article that should be required reading for the Mathew Hootens/David Garretts of this world:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/georgemonbiot/2012/jan/06/why-libertarians-must-deny-climage-change
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May 22, 2012 8:46pm
Boglio

From my observations over the past weeks this thread should be renamed “The life and Times of Philu”
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May 22, 2012 8:47pm
dime

“Porn will make you impotent, Dime.”

BAHAHAHA NO! Porn will diminish your appetite for women that will actually fuck you…

apart from that im in at least my 20th year as a porn enthusiast and no problems so far 🙂
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May 22, 2012 8:49pm
Johnboy

215 comments are not to be sniffed at Boglio! 🙂
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May 22, 2012 8:49pm
Viking2

or maybe philu slappers.
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May 22, 2012 8:50pm
dime

Luc you crazy jew hating bastard. An honest man goes to work and supports his children. he doesnt live with his hand out while sneering at the very people who provide for his child.
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May 22, 2012 8:50pm
Johnboy

Only 8 bucks for an Avigra too Lucia.

Bet you put more in the plate every Sunday! 🙂
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May 22, 2012 8:50pm
Harriet

Boglio @

That ain’t a life – it ain’t even an existance.
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May 22, 2012 8:51pm
Luc Hansen

Thanks for proving my point, Dime.

One day, I’m sure you will make some poor woman desperately unhappy.
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May 22, 2012 8:52pm
nasska

I went to a costume hire shop and asked for a Dracula outfit.

They then handed me over a Auckland Blues supporters jersey.

I said, “You must’ve misheard me. I said I wanted to look like a count.”
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May 22, 2012 8:53pm
Lucia Maria

Dime,

Ok then, what’s the longest time that you’ve ever been satisfied with one woman in the last 5 years?
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May 22, 2012 8:54pm
krazykiwi

Lucia, rounded up to the nearest minute? 🙂
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May 22, 2012 8:56pm
dime

luc – sorry i cant live up to your high standards. every chick wants a creepy nudist who weeps about that time his daddy touched him.

lucia – a good 4- 5 days id say
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May 22, 2012 8:56pm
Steve (North Shore)

“An honest man goes to work and supports his children. he doesnt live with his hand out while sneering at the very people who provide for his child.”

How will the resident drug fucked unit respond to that Dime?
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May 22, 2012 8:57pm
Johnboy

“One day, I’m sure you will make some poor woman desperately unhappy.”

Not as long as he keeps paying them! 🙂
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May 22, 2012 8:58pm
dime

johnboy – lol
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May 22, 2012 8:59pm
Lucia Maria

KK,

LOL!
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May 22, 2012 8:59pm
Griff

Luc
why whistle for wingnuts they will come sooner or later by their own accord
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May 22, 2012 9:01pm
Lucia Maria

Dime,

4 – 5 days, right. That’s the thing with pornography, you have trained your brain to basically look at and discard women. In real life, you could meet the most perfect, beautiful woman in the world and you’d be bored with her really quickly because of looking at porn.
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May 22, 2012 9:02pm
Johnboy

Hey that’s not fair.

Lucia has a bigger LOL than dime! 🙂
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May 22, 2012 9:02pm
Johnboy

Peter Davis never looked at porn then Lucia?
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May 22, 2012 9:03pm
big bruv

Dime

I think Lucia meant to ask you when was the last time you had sex with just one chick at a time.
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May 22, 2012 9:04pm
dime

I was once with the most perfect, beautiful woman.. them she dumped my ass and i turned into what you see before you now 🙁

group hug??

but seriously, im not a total fiend lol the last 4 years ive had 4 relationships that lasted 6 months or so. i tend to kick em to the curb just before xmas 😀
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May 22, 2012 9:05pm
Griff

A more pertinent question to dime would be
Have you aver satisfied a woman other than just paying her
I expect the real answer would be no
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May 22, 2012 9:07pm
dime

satisfy a woman? huh?
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May 22, 2012 9:09pm
Lucia Maria

Dime,

I can’t even tell if you are serious or not. But if you are, very few women will put up with their men looking at porn. Even if you aren’t married to them, you’re still cheating by doing it.
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May 22, 2012 9:13pm
dime

lucia – i think we live in two different worlds 🙂

ya know chicks watch porn too, right??
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May 22, 2012 9:15pm
RRM

Lucia –

My wife & I like watching porn together. It gives us ideas… 😛

I’ve just read your blog and it’s obvious that you think other people’s sex lives are your business. I find that attitude extraordinary, could you please explain?
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May 22, 2012 9:15pm
Lucia Maria

Johnboy,

Chances are, he probably looked at too much.
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May 22, 2012 9:15pm
David Garrett

Luc: OK, I am feeling masochistic…explain why you think Phil is “an honest man” ? Before you make a big you know what of yourself, I’d advise you to check his post at about 5pm and thereafter when he admitted disguising himself and getting a bus drivers licence in anothers name…probably about the same time as I got a passport in a dead childs name. (Phil has not shared whose identity said licence is in, and what identification he used to obtain it. Nor what he might have done with it since.)

But I digress….the Phool is “an honest man” why, exactly?

Lucia Maria: Is that really your name? As a survivor of the holy mother church myself, I feel your pain…No, Bro. Maurus never fiddled with me; he preferred to “go camping” with my friend Greg…
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May 22, 2012 9:16pm
Pauleastbay

Cheating whom?

Lucia

You make the water woman appear to be a bastion of sanity and reason.

What people watch whether they are alone or with some one is absolutely none of your business, none whatsoever.
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May 22, 2012 9:16pm
Lucia Maria

RRM,

Other people’s sex lives influence the society we live in, which my children are growing up in and being exposed to.

Don’t tell me you look at porn, too?
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May 22, 2012 9:16pm
Lucia Maria

Dime,

Very few women look at porn in comparison to men.

Did you know, most of those women in pornography only last three months or so before they need to stop because of serious damage to their bodies, and quite often dangerous infections in their mouths and eyes?
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May 22, 2012 9:19pm
dime

lucia – news flash. if youre kids are over about 12 they are porn enthusiasts 🙂 thats if they are boys.

if they are girls… well brace for the first time they bring a dime home 🙂
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May 22, 2012 9:19pm
Johnboy

I look at porn too Lucia. 🙂

http://www.care2.com/c2c/photos/view/159/684334587/blasphamy_and_the_wonder_bra/sheep.jpg.html
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May 22, 2012 9:19pm
krazykiwi

“Good evening New Zealand. Welcome to predilection chat. With us tonight we have phil, dime and luc. So let’s kick right into it. Drugged sex with jewish welfare cheats. What’s it all about? Anyone?”
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May 22, 2012 9:20pm
Lucia Maria

Paul,

Adultery starts in the heart and mind. If you are looking at other women and lusting after them, you are cheating on your wife.
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May 22, 2012 9:21pm
RRM

Lucia;

Oh I know….

I hear some young ladies are wearing skirts that finish above the ankle these days. Where will it all end eh?
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May 22, 2012 9:22pm
Johnboy

Jeeze. There’s that KK again, trying to beat me to 8000 comments! 🙂
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May 22, 2012 9:22pm
Johnboy

Dead heat! 🙂
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May 22, 2012 9:23pm
Luc Hansen

For the same reason I rate you as an honest man, David. His sins were a long time ago. He’s going straight and I think he should be encouraged in his endeavours.

Why don’t you, as a lawyer (an upstanding member of society?) try engaging Phil on issues, in a reasonable manner – you know, set an example – instead of encouraging the lowlifes sho get their jollies off with anonymous abuse?

While talking about demerits, I see I’m on thirty points. How did that happen? I bet DPF didn’t like me owning him somewhere on the facts of the matter.

Like when I changed his motto to “fomenting wilful ignorance…”
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May 22, 2012 9:24pm
nasska

krazykiwi

Surely we can find a representative from the Catholics to give the boy botherers a chance to have an imput?
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May 22, 2012 9:24pm
Leaping Jimmy

Chances are, he probably looked at too much.

Well if you were Peter, with a wife like that, you’d have to be looking at something other than your wife, wouldn’t you. (Well, I know I would.)

In fact personally, were I Peter, I would have used my medical contacts to get me some really good stuff which made me not recall anything at all as to what happened for hours after, whenever “she” got “that look.”

Perhaps that’s why he never seemed too upset about things.

But seriously, all Lucia is saying I think, is that porn is extremely enervating. Who can argue with that? Of course it is. Der.
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May 22, 2012 9:25pm
krazykiwi

JB, I will graciously conceed the lead. No doubt the sheep thank me for the safety afforded them by your ernest keyboard efforts
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May 22, 2012 9:25pm
David Garrett

Lucia: You poor damaged woman….you are married are you? Every sex act “an opportunity for procreation” or whatever they used to say I hope? And Mr Maria, he a product of the sadly misnamed “Christian” Brothers is he, or the now virtually defunct Marists?
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May 22, 2012 9:25pm
Pauleastbay

Christ you utter drivel Lucia, now I rate myself on many fronts but I can assure you my sex life is not influencing society one iota. Not even on my best good day could I lay claim to that,

Anyway I thought a bit of hetro porn veiwing might stop so many catching life long homosexuality

As I have never committed adultery, again you prove you know fuck all, I am really scared though that you’re a school teacher – terrified,

Night night- it too much like pulling wings off flies dealing with a moonbat like yourself
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May 22, 2012 9:26pm
Johnboy

But you would have a be pretty matey with a bloody discreet doctor for that sort of stuff Jimmy surely?
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May 22, 2012 9:27pm
Johnboy

“but I can assure you my sex life is not influencing society one iota.”

You poor old bastard PEB!

Just can’t ring any midnight bells anymore eh? 🙂
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May 22, 2012 9:28pm
Griff

Lucia
not all porn stars are burnt out after three months
not all are destroyed by the industry
I would suggest you look into this woman
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_Hartley

the rest of us will look at her 😀
http://www.nina.com/
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May 22, 2012 9:31pm
David Garrett

Luc: I will give you the benefit of the doubt…I have tried numerous times – God knows I have tried! – to engage Phil in a reasonable fashion…as anyone here will tell you, his invariable response is to immediatley spit shit of various kinds, usually bringing up “the dead baby” … So when he revealed today – with some pride – that he had used unspecfiied false ID and a disguise to obtain a drivers licence in another person’s name, I admit..I became a little overheated.

But you still haven’t explained what it is about his parasitic existence that makes him “an honest man” in your view….Please do enlighten me…
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May 22, 2012 9:32pm
Leaping Jimmy

Well if you were Peter surely you’d know a few. I mean I’m just not sure the usual coke/heroin/speed/meth cocktails would be powerful enough to do it, that’s all.

Let’s face it. We’re looking at serious trauma here.
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May 22, 2012 9:34pm
RRM

There’s a stranger in my bed,
There’s a pounding in my head
Glitter all over the room
Pink flamingos in the pool
I smell like a minibar
DJ’s passed out in the yard
Barbie’s on the barbeque
This a hickey or a bruise?

Pictures of last night
Ended up online
I’m screwed
Oh well
It’s a blacked out blur
But I’m pretty sure
It ruled
Damn!

Last Friday night
Yeah we danced on tabletops
And we took too many shots
Think we kissed but I forgot
Last Friday night
Yeah we maxed our credit cards
And got kicked out of the bar
So we hit the boulevard
Last Friday night
We went streaking in the park
Skinny dipping in the dark
Then had a menage a trois
Last Friday night
Yeah I think we broke the law
Always say we’re gonna stop op, whoa
This Friday night
Do it all again
This Friday night
Do it all again
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May 22, 2012 9:34pm
Pauleastbay

I do believe I have cheated with Katy Perry
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May 22, 2012 9:37pm
David Garrett

I think she is off saying a quiet rosary praying for all of us…

the older commenters on here will remember another “catholic teacher” called Pat Bartlett…for you younger souls, she made a career out of going into movies which she knew she was going to find depraved and disgusting, and then complaining about them. Of course she had to sit right through to the end of all of them so she could rate JUST how disgusting and depraved each of them was…

Thankfully Pat went to her eternal rest well before the internet….
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May 22, 2012 9:39pm
RRM

She’s a bit tidier than Nina Hartley… IMO
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May 22, 2012 9:40pm
Leaping Jimmy

Just an observation but I think society has come a long way and not in a good way, that an ordinary weeknight general group discussion has quickly degenerated into a general group mock and denigration of a religious woman who expresses aversion to porn.

What did she say that was so very terrible?

You might want to review and ask yourself that.

Of course if you think it’s a good thing we men feel free to say things like this because it’s our “wight” to do so, then I think you should check yourself into somewhere because you’ve lost the definition of “man” somewhere along the line, and you need help to find “him” again.

..
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May 22, 2012 9:40pm
David Garrett

PEB: You have lusted in your heart? Ten hail mary’s and a glory be….

LJ: That’s not all the intefering busybody does…when my marriage broke up last year she presumed to tell me, having never met me, that I was a terrible sinner ….none of her or anyone else fucking business…
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May 22, 2012 9:40pm
Johnboy

Quite so David. It always has amazed me how the censors are never corrupted by all that filthy shit that would totally deprave the rest of us!

We are so lucky to have such folks as them looking after our morals! 🙂
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May 22, 2012 9:43pm
dime

hell ive cheated 3 times today hahaha
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May 22, 2012 9:44pm
Johnboy

Is your left hand upset dime?
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May 22, 2012 9:45pm
dime

i use two hands
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May 22, 2012 9:46pm
Griff

ordinary weeknight general group discussion

Thats KB GD after dark?

😆
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May 22, 2012 9:46pm
Pauleastbay

Well Reid, some just set themselves up to be mocked, I call it hair shirt syndrome. I’m sure Ms Maria will tuck herself in tonight with the arrogance of the professional busy body convinced that her unsubstantiated rambling will have made us take a good look at our selves and become intolerant arseholes (I aready am but in a nice way)
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May 22, 2012 9:49pm
David Garrett

PEB: Hairshirt….not you too? Which order?
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May 22, 2012 9:55pm
Leaping Jimmy

Well Paul as a person I’d certainly love to be and naturally used to be, an intolerant a-hole all the time, but there’s this silly forgiveness thing going on with we Christians. It’s most inconvenient. We’re not even allowed to do any smiting.

You have no idea how frustrating this can be. Why do you think we came up with all the war songs like ‘Onward Christian Soldiers?’
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May 22, 2012 9:55pm
bereal

Hey Luc,
On one hand we have sumwun who looks at pornography.

On the other hand, we have a self proclaimed nudist such as yourself, happy to
declare that the attraction nudism has for them is, to quote you Luc,
“the eye candy”

Now which one is the sick puppy Luc ?
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May 22, 2012 9:56pm
Griff

RWB
I would refer you to the vote on the left of the home page DPF is after all on the liberal side of the fence
all views are allowed to be promulgated
And the censorship on this blog seems to be wielded lightly
However there is a majority of liberal right views among the readership this is reflected in the reception that some receive
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May 22, 2012 10:00pm
bereal

And Luc,
Obviously a sicko that puts in all that effort to join a nudist club and attend their get togethers
puts in much more effort than the bloke that tunes into the porn on the internet.

Now i wouldn’t even comment on the ones that take their kids along to their nudist meetings.

And i certainly wouldn’t comment on those who attend only because of the previously mentioned sickos.
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May 22, 2012 10:08pm
bhudson

one of my favourite truthtellers, Noam Chomsky

Oh that says so much about you Luc
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May 22, 2012 10:11pm
David Garrett

Still waiting for you to tell me why Phool is an “honest man” Luc…especially given his revelations today that he is a so far undetected criminal…
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May 22, 2012 10:24pm
BillODrees

POL 0. Union 1
Talleys 0. Union 1
Natz. 0. Union 1
Self interest 0. Collective Interest 1
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May 22, 2012 10:35pm
Longknives

I just got home from work (yes WORK Philu..fancy that?)
I see I got called a “snivelling lowlife”..then I see that David Garrett came out swinging into my defence! This is bloody brilliant!
Then Philu claimed to be a champion bus driver, before he admitted to some kind of weird identity theft ( which bit him on his bludging arse).
Naturally he then threatened everyone here with legal acton in the pissy Small Claims Court…even more brilliant! (Bring it on I say- I doubt any WINZ funded lawyers would foot it with mine..)
Things went astray for a while but then Lucia Maria came on and started ranting about the evils of sex (in particular pornography)…naturally raising the ire of resident mad rooter Dime! Oh I’m going to come out and say it…

Best Episode Ever!
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May 22, 2012 10:41pm
slijmbal

@Long

wouldn’t call it debate though. More a bitching session.
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May 22, 2012 10:43pm
slijmbal

though finishing on an utterly bad taste note

“If porn is so bad then why are there so many nuns in them?”
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May 22, 2012 11:44pm
philu

“..he then threatened everyone here with legal acton in the pissy Small Claims Court…even more brilliant! (Bring it on I say- I doubt any WINZ funded lawyers would foot it with mine..)..”

well..y’see..that’s the thing..there are no lawyers…

..just you..me..and the evidence..

..are you up for that..?

(and..’:.. the pissy Small Claims Court..’

from memory the maximum is 12 grand for the slander…and 12 grand max for hurt/damage caused…

..are you up for that..?

..do you wanna go first..?

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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May 23, 2012 8:01am
thedavincimode

Idiot.
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May 23, 2012 8:21am
graham

Succinct.
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May 23, 2012 8:23am
philu

or would you rather go first..?

i’m easy about what order you go in..

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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May 23, 2012 8:24am
thedavincimode

That’s because you don’t do anything all day you lazy little prick.
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