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May 20, 2012 8:00am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 20 May 2012

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Harriet

Scott Chris @

“…Fact is….Why should they be denied it because of another group in society’s wish to keep the brand exclusive. That group doesn’t own the marriage brand, society as a whole owns it…”

Fact is….society doesn’t own it…..but recognises it.And the court of public opinion is much differant to the court of law and the court of public polling.-

Marriage is not only a Legal Act of a ‘bond between one man and one woman’. But also a ‘bond between that man and that woman and the children that may come from that bond.’ Legal and otherwise !

Statistics and evidence on everything to do with child welfare – be it education, health or that outdated cliche ‘general well being’ tell us that children from Marriages HAVE ALWAYS THROUGHOUT HISTORY feared better than those that haven’t been raised in one.

Gays themselves recognise that fact and they as members of society then also recognise the benefits of what Marriage means to society and it’s future.

No one is excluding gays from being part of a modern society, by acknowledging their existance in Law and Civil Unions allows them a place in society to form a mature recognition of what the institution of Marriage is in society and what it does.Like it has always done.Like it should do : caring for children.

But then maybe gays just want the next ‘brand’ Scott Chris !
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May 20, 2012 10:25pm
Harriet

Scott Chris @

Gays fronting up to this debate have so far been – piss weak.
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May 20, 2012 10:28pm
Griff

The standpoint of those that seek to ban homosexual marriage seems to be based on to things
1 an abhorrence of anal sex
2 Cristian tradition
All other arguments are merely justification rather than based on any reality
its 2012 and if they so desire homos can rent a women to have a baby or use artificial insemination to have a child
Joseph and Mary according to Cristian tradition were a married couple that brought up a child that was artificially inseminated
Why could not tom and dick or sue and Lucy do the same
Culture can and has changed. In the period Since the church controlled life we have evolved into a fairer and less dogmatic society
long may that change continue
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May 20, 2012 10:51pm
bereal

Hey Harriet

Think about his feelings.

After all, Scott Chris has had to carry the burden on his todd tonight.

Don’t be too tough on him.
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May 20, 2012 10:55pm
bereal

and Griff @ 10.51
Very wise and sage counsel mate.
Pity about the spelling and comprehension, otherwise 3 out of 10
Much improved on your usual effort.
Well done.
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May 20, 2012 11:03pm
Viking2

Mr de Bres said Mr Crimp’s comments were absolutely appalling and were not at all representative of New Zealanders as suggested by the Invercargill businessman.

“We’re all looking around for the so-called New Zealanders he’s talking about.”

Still with his head under his desk then.

I see that pratt Banks has run away as well. Fair weather friend to his big donators. What else would we expect from a prick like him?
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