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April 13, 2012 12:15pm by David Farrar

Paid Parental Leave Pains

My column in the NZ Herald is titled “Paid Parental Leave Pains“.

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tvb

This is a blatant attempt to get an entitlement and the Lanour Party is ramping it up for all it is worth. There is room for compromise say another 6 weeks in election year.
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April 13, 2012 12:22pm
SalParadise

Hi DPF,

Good column. If the increase in PPL was to go ahead would you favour a universal approach?

[DPF: No. I would target it at those earning below the median wage]
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April 13, 2012 12:33pm
Pete George

An excellent column, although the “nearly half a billion” might be pushing the high end of the actual costs, without taking into account potential reduced costs elsewhere, such as paid child care.

I’d like to see this researched properly, where longer term benefits and costs can somehow be quantified, but that won’t be easy.

Would it be possible to tie implementation if this bill to when it could be afforded from surplus, which is projected for 2015-ish (not far after the bill would get through)?
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April 13, 2012 12:38pm
Rosa19

Hi DPF,

Can you plse post the references to the research you note in your article that says PPL improves social/health outcomes for parents/children, cheers
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April 13, 2012 12:43pm
Nick R

This is bad for David Shearer (snort).
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April 13, 2012 1:24pm
Paulus

At least Bill English has come out with a simple unequivical positive statement – NO WAY.
Almost statesman like !
National looked at it before the last election and ruled it out then on cost.
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April 13, 2012 1:26pm
Other_Andy

Oh goodie, more lollies.
I can think of at least half a dozen more policies that would be ‘beneficial’.

If the increase in PPL was to go ahead would you favour a universal approach?
DPF: No. I would target it at those earning below the median wage

With WWF, student allowances and other ‘entitlements’ those trying to get ahead and aiming to earn extra\above the median wage should consider their position. At some point the incentive to try and advance yourself will be gone.
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April 13, 2012 1:43pm
Richard29

I would not be surprised to see National u-turn on this one and end up supporting the bill in a different form. I can imagine this following a similar path to the anti-smacking law – it’s not good politics to come out swinging against Plunket and mums struggling with newborns. A big chunk of the centre ground that National has won was centrist women voters who supported Helen Clark.

I could see somebody like Jackie Blue sponsoring an amendment (similar to the Chester Borrows sponsored compromise amendment on the smacking bill) to manage the cost while maintaining the maternal health objectives of the policy by phasing it in over a longer period of time (or perhaps phasing out the payments so it phases out rather than going from $457 a week to nothing). This would proportionately benefit poor mums more which would be problematic for Labour.

Or perhaps even a Key/English solution unveiled at budget time to make it fiscally neutral through savings in an other area that deliver an ideological policy win for National. For instance, the Nats could say they will introduce interest on student loans at the rate of inflation once people start working full time and use the money to pay for PPL. It all goes into the consolidated account so it’s a bit of smoke and mirrors but the public doesn’t really care. But if managed well it would be very effective because if Labour opposes the solution then National get to paint them as hurting young mums to provide a subsidy to full time working professionals with a degree.
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April 13, 2012 2:27pm
david

Simple solution to this would be for the PPL to be changed so that it was available for months 6-12 following the birth of the baby. Think about it.

No extra cost
certainty of how much should be saved to cope for months 1-6

downside – a slapper on the dpb would get paid to stay at home while the shop assistant wouldn’t.
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April 13, 2012 2:37pm
seanmaitland

@Pete George – there are not offset costs to the government, especially not paid childcare – the childcare rebate is worth a little over $300 per year, which when compared to $328 per week (net) for 14 weeks is nothing.
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April 14, 2012 1:15am
Paulus

Why didn’t Labour during their 9 years do this when the accounts were in Surplus ?
This bill has been sitting for a number of years, awaiting its luck
Cullen had plenty of money to spend – he paid a billion for a Railway.
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