General Debate 9 April 2012

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nasska

First they came for the light bulbs
and I did not speak out
because I liked to sit in the dark.

Then they came for the plastic bags
and I did not speak out
because I already owned a cloth bag.

Then they came for the oil
and I did not speak out
because I did not drive a car.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to save me from the Enviro Nazis.
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April 9, 2012 8:01am
philu

http://whoar.co.nz/2012/still-tokin-after-all-these-years/

“…In a highly personal piece –

– a dad in his mid-50s asks why he shouldn’t carry on enjoying the occasional spliff..”

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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April 9, 2012 8:13am
Keeping Stock

The library is open early this morning Phil; and you were there late last night too; on Easter Sunday. I hope they’re not breaking any laws staying open so that you can use the interb=net that you don’t have at home

..eh..?
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April 9, 2012 8:16am
Scott Chris

We all know someone like this:

A high-flying Australian executive has lost his job after he called New Zealanders “retarded” and said women had “no place in business or politics”.

“You only take them to places like Gallipoli and the world cup of cricket so you don’t feel bad. Just like your retarded cousin goes to the movies,” he wrote.

“Women have no place in business or politics. They shouldn’t even be allowed to vote. And it’s all New Zealand’s fault, since 1893. Yea [sic] let’s let the women cook and vote. Great idea.”
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April 9, 2012 8:17am
Falafulu Fisi

If this momentum gets going then Obama is toast. This is the 2nd Republican to come out and express doubt about Obama’s birth certificate.

Obama Birth Certificate: Missouri Congresswoman Vicky Hartzler Expresses Doubt

Once there’s a Congressional investigation into this matter, then Obama is history. They will put this fraudster Obama in Guantanamo Bay detention camp when he is found guilty of fraud. I’m sure that the terrorist Abu Nidal in Quantuamo is looking forward to sharing a cell with Obama.
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April 9, 2012 8:23am
Chuck Bird

I would have thought we would have learned from the past experience of allowing migrants in without screening. It is not practical or reasonable to test tourists. However, it is mad not to test students who may be here for a couple of years for HIV. You would expect this under a Labour government but not a National one.

Easing of visa health tests could let infected in – experts

By Lincoln Tan
5:30 AM Monday Apr 9, 2012

Relaxing health screening requirements for international students could lead to people infected with HIV and hepatitis being granted visas to study here, medical experts say.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10797527
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April 9, 2012 8:27am
Pete George

Yep, looks like this clinches the birther debate:

“You know, I have a lot of doubts about all that. But I don’t know, I haven’t seen it,” Hartzler said. “I’m just at the same place you are on that. You read this, you read that. But I don’t understand why he didn’t show that right away. I mean, if someone asked for my birth certificate, I’d get my baby book and hand it out and say ‘Here it is,’ so I don’t know.”

How much more decisive could you get than that? Vicky Hartzler and Falafulu Fisi have nailed Obama. How can he prove he was born after this?
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April 9, 2012 8:30am
krazykiwi

FF – even if Obama was born in Hawaii, at best that makes him a US citizen. To be a Natural Born Citizen, ie eligible for presidency, he must have been born in the USA, to parents who were both US citizens. Barry’s father was Kenyan. LJ posted a good read on this here.
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April 9, 2012 8:35am
Falafulu Fisi

Left-winger PG masquerading as a right-winger, the electronic birth certificate form that Obama put out is the judge and jury. It makes you an idiot to dismiss it out of hand. Here you are as a warmist who dismisses the opinions of AGW skeptics, but blindly & willingly accepts Obama’s electronic form of his birth certificate as somehow authenticated?

The white house hasn’t come out to clarify the muli-layering of the birth certificate electronic form? They just kept quite & hope that it will go away. The second point is, if they say that the original BC long form was scanned using software X, Y, Z, blah, blah, blah, which explains the multi-layering, then they will be caught as a liar, because graphics experts in the US who are using the same software in their work will try to replicate it and see if the White-house claim can stand-up to scrutiny. In fact this has been done. Just watch many youtube videos of how some experts have replicated a manufactured electronic form of a birth certificate. Its easy done. The white house won’t name their software because to do so, they’re digging the hole much deeper. It’s better to be quiet about it.

Obama will be exposed as a fraudster because Republican-controlled Missouri House of Representatives, passed a bill requiring presidential candidates to present a birth certificate to the Missouri secretary of state to qualify for the ballot. Watch this closely because Obama is going to present a copy claimed to be original (except that it is brand new paper from last year).
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April 9, 2012 8:44am
eszett

Ah, yes , the birther nonsense continues.

*yawn*
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April 9, 2012 8:45am
Yvette

Falafulu Fisi, I follow your link and, below comments on the President’s birth, I see Donald Trump has not provided half the documentation that Obama has.
This is obviously something the US needs to sort out if they don’t want any bloody old foreigner becoming President.
Like Osama bin Laden
Oh ? – he’s dead, huh?
Have you seen a Death Certificate?
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April 9, 2012 8:46am
Other_Andy

A list of the most ~~self absorbed pathologically narcissistic~~ important people in New zealand.

NZ’s Twitter top 50

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10797520
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April 9, 2012 8:46am
Pete George

Left-winger PG masquerading as a right-winger,
dismiss it out of hand
Here you are as a warmist who dismisses the opinions of AGW skeptics
blindly & willingly accepts Obama’s electronic form of his birth certificate as somehow authenticated?

You’re wrong on all those, but otherwise your first paragraph isn’t too bad.

FF, can you explain how Obama’s birth was announced in Hawaii newspapers?
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April 9, 2012 8:49am
Falafulu Fisi

krazykiwi, I don’t care if he’s born in Hawii or Kenya. I support Ron Paul’s opinion on this when asked by CNN about Obama’s birth certificate. Ron Paul answered: His mother is American, therefore it makes him (Obama) automatically a US citizen. Ron Paul is quite correct there. I’m arguing whether he’s a citizen or not. He is a citizen because of his mother. What I’m arguing here is that he’s committing a fraud in the highest level. That’s my argument here. We should not be arguing about his citizenship. Obama is a US citizen (because of his mother irrelevant of where he was born), no doubt, but committing a fraud is competely different matter.
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April 9, 2012 8:52am
eszett

Oh no, PG, please don’t.
There is no reasoning with them. Logic and reason has long been abandoned by them, they live on a totally different planet.
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April 9, 2012 8:53am
Redbaiter

“A high-flying Australian executive has lost his job after he called New Zealanders “retarded” and said women had “no place in business or politics”.”

That’s what happens in these stinking Marxist gulags when one speaks outside the “approved” spectrum of speech.

..and the gullible Farrar and his hard left friends continue their campaign to attack internet anonymity.
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April 9, 2012 8:54am
mikenmild

Great, we’re already away with the birthers again…
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April 9, 2012 8:58am
Redbaiter

“FF, can you explain how Obama’s birth was announced in Hawaii newspapers?”

FFS- the only people who think this question is the big unanswerable are completely uninformed morons. There are at least three good explanations for the appearance of the ads.

Their appearance proves nothing.

I’d explain, except I long ago recognized the futility of arguing with retarded NZers and especially the uninformed knuckle dragging Marxist losers who dominate at Kiwiblog today.
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April 9, 2012 8:58am
Stamper

Ranui Rail death – I do not understand Auckland rail’s comments:

[The tragedy prompted anger from commuters who have long protested about a wide gap between the platform and trains at the station.]
Auckland Transport spokeswoman Sharon Hunter admitted the platform was built for freight trains and did not suit the needs of passengers getting on and off.
“It’s what we’ve had to put up with. We’ve bought trains that don’t match the platform width, we have an inconsistency in that respect,” she said.
The first three trains that would fit the platforms were not due to arrive until the end of next year and the roll out would not be complete until 2016.

Those comments just do not make sense; one modifies the odd man out [the station] so that it is like all other stations, and therefore compatible for the rolling stock.

If the new rolling stock due in 2016 fits the Ranui Station, they will by definition be different from all current rolling stock and wrong for all the other stations.
Duhhhhh – this seems dumb, and I suspect so are the other clowns running the passenger train service. eg. the “short station” built at Onehunga which needed more millions spent to get it long enough for the trains coming to it. Unbelievable incompetence; and no one is censured, we just get it added to our rates.
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April 9, 2012 9:00am
Pete George

There are at least three good explanations for the appearance of the ads.

1. The “in case the baby becomes president” conspiracy.
2. The Nigerian candidate conspiracy.
3. The unauthenticated newspaper records conspiracy.

I thought there was more than three?
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April 9, 2012 9:03am
Redbaiter

One of the reasons you’re always such a waste of time Pete is your compulsion to frame false arguments for your opponents and then demand that they defend them.

A childish gimmick, but apparently one you can never resist.
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April 9, 2012 9:08am
Falafulu Fisi

Pete George, there are lots of young beautiful American ladies who go to Tonga every year to teach (at primary & secondary school level) as part of the peace corps volunteer program. They taught there for a duration of 2 years mostly. Some got pregnant to local villagers during their time over there. Some ended up getting married with the fathers of their babies and returned to the US with them (husbands) but some just returned to the US without husbands (or as partners), but with their babies alone. Their babies are automatically US citizens even though they were born in Tonga. As I said above, the legitimacy of Obama’s US citizenship is not my argument here. It is the fraud that he (and his cohorts) had committed last year when he released an electronic form of his birth certificate, which it looked like its been doctored digitally.
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April 9, 2012 9:09am
mikenmild

Falafulu
You have been sucked in by another birther scam, that’s all, and find it believable because you don’t like Obama. He was born in Honolulu and is qualified to be elected President, was elected and probably will be re-elected. You may as well get used to it, because it’s not changing.
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April 9, 2012 9:14am
Pete George

Falafulu Fisi, if Obama produced video evidence of his birth in Hawaii, if there was a concrete monument of his birth, if Neil Armstrong’s first words on the moon were “this step is dedicated to Obama who was born in Hawaii”, the Redbirthers of this world would still claim Obama had been doctored digitally in the maternity suite.
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April 9, 2012 9:15am
SGA

@kk – “FF – even if Obama was born in Hawaii, at best that makes him a US citizen. To be a Natural Born Citizen, ie eligible for presidency, he must have been born in the USA, to parents who were both US citizens.”

I’ve explained this to you before kk, the exact parameters of “Natural Born Citizen” have never been legally defined.
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April 9, 2012 9:18am
philu

maybe fisi just needs a windmill to tilt at..?

..some do..

..redbaiter has his international communist conspiracy to keep him warm at nights..

..who are we to judge..?

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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April 9, 2012 9:24am
grumpyoldhori

Time to dump dual nationality except with countries that are HM’s Realms for Aus and NZ ?
One does wonder if the foaming at the mouth right wingers are loyal to NZ and only NZ.
An Aus MP ? which country does his loyalty lie with ?

http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=227332
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April 9, 2012 9:28am
Leaping Jimmy

Why does anyone approve of Obama? That’s the real question.

phil suggests: just look at the alternate. Sorry, not a reason.

Obama is a shocking POTUS. He is. Really bad. Awful.

Why are you guys defending him, in any way? Are you blind?
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April 9, 2012 9:31am
mikenmild

Ha grumpy, remember the Duynhoven case, when the MP acquired Dutch citizenship without realising it would make him ineligible to continue as an MP?
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April 9, 2012 9:31am
SalParadise

I can’t decide which is sadder. The idea the Barack Obama’s birth certificate is a fraud or the NZ Twitter top 50, one of whom appears to be a weather analyst.
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April 9, 2012 9:32am
Fletch

The tissue of lies that are Obama’s story are starting to come apart…

As investigators delve further into the background of Barack Obama, a disturbing picture is emerging of a man who is not who he claims to be. The information the public has been told concerning Obama is turning out to be false–fabrications and inventions of a man and an unseen force behind him that had clear ulterior motives for seeking the highest office in the land.

According to a special report issued by ‘the Blogging Professor,’ the Chicago Law School faculty hated Obama. The report states that Obama was unqualified, that he was never a ‘constitutional professor and scholar,’ and that he never served as editor of the Harvard Law Review while a student at the school.

The real truth is that Barack Obama was merely an ‘instructor’ at Chicago Law School, not a professor. Commonly, instructors are non-tenure-track teachers hired by colleges and universities to teach certain courses for a salary that is well below that of Associate Professors or full Professors.

In fact, it can be safely concluded that the claims of Barack Obama concerning his educational credentials and work history in higher education are a complete sham. The President of the United States is a complete fraud.

According to Doug Ross:

I spent some time with the highest tenured faculty member at Chicago Law a few months back, and he did not have many nice things to say about “Barry.” Obama applied for a position as an adjunct and wasn’t even considered. A few weeks later the law school got a phone call from the Board of Trustees telling them to find him an office, put him on the payroll, and give him a class to teach. The Board told him he didn’t have to be a member of the faculty, but they needed to give him a temporary position. He was never a professor and was hardly an adjunct.

The other professors hated him because he was lazy, unqualified, never attended any of the faculty meetings, and it was clear that the position was nothing more than a political stepping stool. According to my professor friend, he had the lowest intellectual capacity in the building. He also doubted whether he was legitimately an editor on the Harvard Law Review, because if he was, he would be the first and only editor of an Ivy League law review to never be published while in school (publication is or was a requirement).

BREAKING DEVELOPMENT–just as these disturbing facts come to light about Barack Obama, the White House is busy making deals with numerous ‘journalists,’ promising unprecedented access to the President in exchange for refraining from reporting certain information ‘they may discover.’

MORE – https://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-national/investigation-reveals-numerous-bogus-claims-on-obama-resume

Barrack Obama is turning out to be a creation – a true Manchurian Candidate.
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April 9, 2012 9:32am
mikenmild

LJ
Obama brings out a certain amount of visceral hatred, and a certain share of that finds it impossible that he should be President. Some go further to believe that there is no way he could be a legitimate president, and a tiny fringe persuade themselves (but nobody else) that this is so.
He is no better and no worse than most US presidents. Only time will allow a balanced account of his presidency and what he has contributed, negatively or positively. Calling him ‘awful’ is meaningless unless one is able to demonstrate what effect a Clinton or a McCain would have had.
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April 9, 2012 9:36am
Leaping Jimmy

Taxpayer money spent on family reunions: how come?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/6711592/Thousands-spent-on-whanau-gatherings

He is no better and no worse than most US presidents.

If you think that mm I don’t think you’ve been paying close attention. So far he’s fulfilled none of his promises to the voters and simply continued Bush 43’s agenda in terms of the financial destruction his bailouts have wrought and the continuation of the foreign occupations. None of this is within the democratic mindset yet for some reason, democrats aren’t up in arms. Is this because as bad as he is, he’s better than any republican? If so, isn’t that a sellout of principle?
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April 9, 2012 9:37am
Fletch

ps, according to the Western Center for Journalism site, Russia’s Putin knows Obama’s secrets and is blackmailing Obama, which is why Obama makes so many concessions to Russia. Not saying I subscribe to the theory, but it is a theory.

While the American media provide cover for the Constitutionally ineligible Barack Hussein Obama, Vladimir Putin and the nation of Russia are reaping a treasure trove of defense secrets and missile technology by threatening to reveal the true history of the Manchurian Candidate.
Obama has spent millions to prevent his personal story from being revealed to the American public. Records have been destroyed, information has been hidden, false claims have been advanced, potential whistle-blowers have been threatened and official documents have been forged. Enabled by a complicit media and the craven cowardice of political opponents, the most egregious felonies in the nation’s history have served to make the American people easy prey for the schemes of a dedicated Communist and committed enemy of our Constitutional Republic.
And those schemes have included the betrayal both of the United States and her allies.

* In 2009 Obama scrapped the long awaited missile defense system for Poland and the Czech Republic because Russia objected.
* He has refused to keep secret the technical data on the U.S Standard Missile-3, as called for in the 2012 defense authorization bill.
* Obama will not pledge to keep American missile technology from China, North Korea and Iran, as it would “…interfere with [his] constitutional authority to conduct foreign affairs…”
* Obama will provide Russia information on every Trident missile supplied to Great Britain as part of an arms control deal signed with Russian President Medvedev.
* Leaked cables show that the US will now provide Russia with ALL serial numbers of Trident missiles transferred to Britain.
* Obama proposes the United States CUT its nuclear arsenal by 80%, yet demands no reciprocity on the part of Russia or any of America’s enemies.
* Joe Miller, 2010 US Senate candidate from Alaska, reports that, under the guise of drawing a boundary, 7 Alaska-area islands and oil rich sea beds containing perhaps billions of barrels were given to Russia in an unannounced, secret deal by Obama’s State Department.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/forgerygate-blackmailed-by-putin-obama-betrays-united-states-and-her-allies/
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April 9, 2012 9:37am
Fletch

ps, the American Credit Rating has been downgraded again by Egan Jones, but the American media has been told to make it a non-story so as not to “shock people”

Credit rating agency Egan Jones (EJR) downgraded the United States Thursday on concern over the sustainability of public debt.

A shattering report from RIA, Novosti’s Washington D.C.bureau, appears to prove that the mainstream press in America has become nothing more than a propaganda arm of the Obama regime when during a White House news briefing this past week they were effectively ordered not to report on this past weeks credit rating cut of US government debt.

The Russian International News Agency (RIA Novosti) is a Russian state-owned news agency based in the capital Moscow whose clients include the presidential administration, Russian government, Federation Council, State Duma, leading ministries and government departments, administrations of Russian regions, representatives of Russian and foreign business communities, diplomatic missions, and public organizations.

The White House news briefing referred to in this report occurred this past Thursday (5 April) when Obama regime officials were queried about the latest shock downgrade of the United States credit rating stating that to the American people this critical event should be kept in the category of a “non-story” so as not to confuse and/or shock them.
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April 9, 2012 9:41am
Fletch

He is no better and no worse than most US presidents.

mikenmild, of course he is worse. Do you have your eyes closed?
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April 9, 2012 9:42am
mikenmild

‘not saying I subscribe to the theory’
Really? It is no crazier than the rest of the nonsense to which you subscribe.
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April 9, 2012 9:43am
philu

if that 50 tweets thing was a best-of..?

..good grief..!

..all the wit/insight/humour..

..of a tooth-extraction..

..i have a moribund twitter account..(with about three entries..untouched since forever..)

..and the idea of following the inanities of others’ lives makes me want to drive hot needles into something..

..i have more than enough inanities of my own to endure/be getting on with..

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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April 9, 2012 9:49am
grumpyoldhori

Leaping Jimmy support the Kenyan/Muslim fuck yes, any darkie who upsets that many septics on a regular basis is great in my eyes.

Trouble is those wimpy cracker mother fuckers don’t have the balls to toss him out of the White house, I’m sure the Secret Service would not shoot that many white septic mother fuckers.
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April 9, 2012 9:51am
Dean Papa

but in these modern times it shouldn’t really matter where someone is born?
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April 9, 2012 9:53am
TimG_Oz

Holy batnuts, GrumpyOldHori, when did you start reading the Jerusalem Post religiously? Especially with your views, its like you’re doing it just to make yourself even grumpier!
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April 9, 2012 9:55am
Leaping Jimmy

grumpy I thought you were more astute than to support one who stands so clearly against our own best interests. Some of the less astute here still don’t quite get it and still think along partisan political dimensions whereby left or right is the only determinant but I thought you had long ago transcended such narrow and foolish restrictions.
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April 9, 2012 9:59am
philu

(i’ll try a tweet..)

heh..!..small dog and (formerly) stray/wild kitten both love the porridge i make..

..and are both fanging into their plates..side by side..

..it’s kinda cute..

(is that what they do….?..)

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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April 9, 2012 10:03am
Fletch

Jimmy, you only need to go to bigjournalism.com a couple of days and see the stuff the Left is always trying to pull to see a clear trend. There is clearly a Left/Right ideology. The editing of the Trayvon Martin tapes by NBC to introduce a racist slant shows this (The NBC producer has since been fired).
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April 9, 2012 10:05am
thedavincimode

… back from leading the SEAL raid on the Somali pirates (in his mind) …
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April 9, 2012 10:07am
Don the Kiwi

Sean Hannity on Fox News is the boy – he’s exposing Obama big time.

Grumpy.
Herman Cain is a black man, and would have been 10 times the president Barry Obumma is.
However, he’s pulled out of the Republican nomination race – wasn’t cutting it. Very successful man though, and I would suggest that it was his ability – not his colour – that gained him his position.
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April 9, 2012 10:11am
philu

(this one is for excitable-jim..seeing as he asked..)

http://whoar.co.nz/2012/top-50-things-accomplished-by-president-barack-obama/

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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April 9, 2012 10:11am
Don the Kiwi

BTW. Grumpy.

Read or watched anything of Thomas Sowell lately?

There’s a great Black American who could teach many a politician and many a person a lot.
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April 9, 2012 10:13am
philu

(this is for don the kiwi..it’s the whoar cain-cache..)

http://whoar.co.nz/?s=herman+cain+

oh the laughs..!..the memories..!

..he was comedy-gold..

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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April 9, 2012 10:18am
Redbaiter

Don the Kiwi-

Note how Hermann Cain received 100 times the scrutiny that Barry Soetero aka Barack Obama has?

Because Hermann never brought into the Marxist vision, he was killed off by a hostile media, who are the front line fighters for the left.

We must wake up. The left have us in a pincer grip, and as they continue to lose the argument, you will see the oppression increase, and the guns come out.

There’s not one leftist commenting on this blog who has not demonstrated that he is sufficiently amoral and psychotic enough to become a mass murderer.

That is where this is all heading.
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April 9, 2012 10:19am
joana

Fletch,
What about Obama’s trip to Pakistan on another passport? What about his muslim backers?
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April 9, 2012 10:20am
Falafulu Fisi

Phil U & Pete George, you need to watch it again. Watch the bloody video.

Obama Birth Certificate Faked In Adobe Illustrator

If the birth certificate was scanned in as claimed by the white-house, then it should have been a single layer not multilayer. How hard for you to understand that fact? Are you guys somehow expert software developers or something? You evade debating the software issue that has been raised by many on the internet but fall back to your default position of, oh, it must be conspiracy. His multi-layered electronic birth certificate is downloadable from the White-househere.
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April 9, 2012 10:24am
eszett

There’s not one leftist commenting on this blog who has not demonstrated that he is sufficiently amoral and psychotic enough to become a mass murderer.

Wait, if all leftist become mass murders and approx. half the population are leftist, then there is only one right winger for each of them to kill, so they can’t become mass murders.

Bummer, dude!

Just doesn’t make sense.
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April 9, 2012 10:26am
krazykiwi

I’ve explained this to you before kk, the exact parameters of “Natural Born Citizen” have never been legally defined.

SGA, I suggest you research Minor v. Happersett (1874); U. S. v Wong Kim Ark (1898) [the court thoroughly discussed “natural born citizen” and Justice Gray cited Minor v. Happersett] and; Perkins v. Elg’s (1939).
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April 9, 2012 10:31am
philu

redbaiter…step..back..from..the..bong..

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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April 9, 2012 10:32am
philu

i’ll tell you what fisi..

you tell me how that birth announcement on the honolulu newspaper fits in with yr theory..

..and i’ll watch yr video..

..off ya go..

philip ure@whoar.co.nz
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April 9, 2012 10:34am
Redbaiter

If ever anyone was especially suited to the role of an ethically bankrupt psychotic collectivist jackbooted watch tower thug it would be you Ure.
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April 9, 2012 10:34am
Fletch

philu, anyone can put an announcement in a newspaper for a birth. It doesn’t have to be checked out by the paper. IN fact, announcements were made in the paper of births occurring outside the US.

In August, 1961, two announcements allegedly showing a “native” birth for Barack Obama were published in Hawaii’s two primary newspapers, the Sunday Advertiser and the Honolulu Star. For more than three years since Obama engaged his unvetted candidacy for the presidency, many of his supporters have mistakenly lauded these blurbish announcements as the “holy grail” of proof that he was born in the state of Hawaii.

However, a detailed investigation of the history and procedures used by Hawaii’s municipal health department, and its relationship with the newspapers, shows that not only was it a matter of official policy that Obama’s birth would have been announced in the paper regardless of where he was born, the information used to publish the announcements is not even confirmed through any eye-witness, medical authority or hospital representative in the state.

In 1961, the two newspapers shared the same address and facility for their publishing operations which means they received only one copy of the same vital records information from the Department of Health. Therefore, the format and content of information used in “vital event” public announcements, including births, deaths, divorces and marriage applications, were published identically by both papers, including any mistakes, omissions, order or context. No investigation was carried out by the papers’ editors to determine if the information provided by the DOH was actually accurate or, in the case of birth announcements, if the address published and provided by the registrant had any association with the geographic location of the actual birth. More than 1200 birth announcements between 1960 and 1965 were shown to contain Hawaiian addresses for registrants of births outside of the state of Hawaii, including more than three hundred in which the child was born outside of the United States.
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April 9, 2012 10:42am
philu

‘jackboots’..!.’jackboots’..!

‘hemp-vegan-sneakers’..!..please..!

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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April 9, 2012 10:42am
cha

The citizens of Sanford will be able to sleep well with a ~~an armed gang of white supremacists and neo-Nazis~~ civil rights group patrolling the streets.
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April 9, 2012 10:43am
Keeping Stock

Phillip Ure said

redbaiter…step..back..from..the..bong..

Pot; meet kettle..

..eh..?
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April 9, 2012 10:43am
thedavincimode

This is what happens when Pharmac excutes a pincer movement prescribing the use of generic anti-psychotic drugs in the front-line fight against psychosis.

The resident patients cower beneath their beds as the vaste knuckle-dragging army of leftist homo scum advance over the brow, guns blazing and manacles at the ready …

Only one man stands his ground ….

(to be continued)
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April 9, 2012 10:45am
eszett

FF,

do some reading. It’s been debunked left, right and centre. A simple google search will lead you to it.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/29/expert-says-obamas-birth-certificate-legit/

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/265767/pdf-layers-obamas-birth-certificate-nathan-goulding

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/birthcertificate.asp

It’s fucking boring!
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April 9, 2012 10:46am
Redbaiter

Wow, there the little Marxist scumbag Cha posting lies again.

Rushing to feverishly lap up extreme left bullshit from the mainstream media, there’s hardly ever a post he makes that isn’t so.
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April 9, 2012 10:46am
eszett

philu (11,137) Says:
April 9th, 2012 at 10:32 am

redbaiter…step..back..from..the..bong..

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz

No, Philu, quite the contrary, he needs to INHALE!
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April 9, 2012 10:47am
Redbaiter

Davinci, its slimy little Marxist cowards like you who have allowed the National Party to become just another socialist tool of oppression. Fuck off and work for Labour or the Greens. You’ve got no business placing yourself anywhere on the right.
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April 9, 2012 10:49am
thedavincimode

The first thing he should do is stop playing about here and get outside and do his lawns before he gets into trouble.
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April 9, 2012 10:49am
Leaping Jimmy

phil how ignorant thou art…

In 2011, Obama continued the destructive pattern he followed in years one and two. Throughout his tenure, he’s done what supporters thought impossible.

Across the board on domestic and foreign issues, he governed to the right of George Bush. He’s waged multiple imperial wars, plans others, looted the nation’s wealth, wrecked the economy, consigned growing millions to impoverishment without jobs, and institutionalized tyranny to target dissenters challenging political corruption, corporate crooks, or abuse of power lawlessness.

He also promotes regime change in Syria, Iran, Venezuela, Lebanon, and other independent states. In addition, he targets Russia’s military strength and China’s growing economic might. At the same time, he supports ruthless, corrupt tyrants.

Moreover, he authorized indefinitely detaining anyone called a national security threat without charge (including US citizens). He continues Bush’s rendition and torture policies, authorized killing US citizens abroad, (like Anwar Al-Awaki for opposing America’s belligerency), and deployed Special Forces death squads covertly to 120 or more countries.

Notably, he destroyed hard won labor rights, wants education commodified and made another business profit center, and wages war on whistleblowers, dissenters, Muslims, Latino immigrants, and environmental and animal rights activists called terrorists.

Throughout his tenure, he’s governed lawlessly for the monied interests that own him. He hasn’t disappointed at the expense of core constituents and others deserving better.

Tell he hasn’t done all of this and more phil. And you, a pwogwessive, supports him in this? Really? You ARE a pwogwessive, aren’t you phil? Yes you are. We know you’re proud of that label. So this is what pwogwessives stand for? Well I never. And all of you guys in the Gweens and Wussel and everyone, are ALL liking all of this, aren’t you. Crikey.

http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2010/05/27/washington-insider-obama-member-of-chicago-gay-mans-club/

http://outing-barry-stevenson.blogspot.co.nz/2011/10/winning-white-house-in-grand-style.html

http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2011/11/28/the-obama-doctrine-imperialism-masked-humanitarian-interventionism.html

http://theulstermanreport.com/2011/11/30/white-house-insider-there-is-a-very-uneasy-peace-between-president-obama-and-the-american-military/
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April 9, 2012 10:50am
thedavincimode

Like I said Russell, you better get out and do the lawns or no you know what this month!
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April 9, 2012 10:52am
philu

so..fletch…this ‘chosen-one”/manchurian-candidate from birth..was born in kenya…

..and at the time of his birth…those who had chosen him had the conspiratorial-foresight to claim in the hawaai press that he was born there..thus qualifying him for the presidency..?

..have i got that right..?

..one question for you..

..if these conspirators (any idea who they are/were/b/t/w//and their motives..?..and why him..?.and how id they know that he was ‘the chosen-one)..if they had the organisational clout to do all that..

..and knew of his upcoming birth..

..why didn’t they just bring the mother to america/hawaai..?

..and avoid all those complications to their fiendish-plan..?

..hate to bring logic into all this..but..y’know..!

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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April 9, 2012 10:52am
Redbaiter

Ever wonder why John Key is such a useless left wing drop kick? He’s advised by a coterie of limp dicked commie “media minders” like thedavincimode.
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April 9, 2012 10:53am
thedavincimode

Trade a bit slow at redneckbaptistnutter.co.nz Russ?

How come you’re back? I missed you. Will we see your little trouser chum KrisK shortly?
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April 9, 2012 10:55am
philu

excitable-jim..you post links to four far-right-loony blogs..

..the first of which promises an expose of how a member of obamas’ team is ‘gay’..?

…you’r just ringing my bell..aren’t ya..?..taking the piss..?

..yeah right..i’ll click on them…

..i don’t need to..we already have you and redbaiter as our local far-right carpet-chewers..

..with fletch representing the old testament rapturists..

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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April 9, 2012 10:58am
Redbaiter

Don’t worry Davinci, you’ll no doubt soon find some reason to run off whining to mummy Farrar like you did last time I reduced you to bleeding pulp, you gutless little commie dickie licker.
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April 9, 2012 10:58am
nasska

Time to send out for popcorn…Davinci has hit form again!
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April 9, 2012 10:59am
Redbaiter

Nasska- another dull brained drongo that makes it so easy to stay away from Kiwiblog.
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April 9, 2012 11:01am
eszett

popcorn, yeah!
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April 9, 2012 11:01am
thedavincimode

You really wish I had don’t you, you poor old thing.

How come your counter got re-set to zero? Did you tell him to shove it and then come snivelling back?

“Nasska … makes it so easy to stay away from Kiwiblog.

But not for you eh ‘baiter. 🙂
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April 9, 2012 11:02am
krazykiwi

Request-an-insult time. Pick me me me me 🙂
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April 9, 2012 11:03am
Fletch

philu,

Probably nothing to do with the “chosen one” at that time…

It could be as simple as his mother wanting him to benefit from having US Citizenship, since she was an American.
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April 9, 2012 11:04am
Other_Andy

@cha

Nothing better than some race-baiting by the MSM to fan the flames and trying to foment riots they can then cover.
The usual suspects (Jackson, Sharpton etc) and Obama desperately want this to be a ‘race’ issue.

Victor Davis Hanson has a good article on this.
From the Trayvon Martin Tragedy to a National Travesty

http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/from-the-trayvon-martin-tragedy-to-a-national-travesty/?singlepage=true

The MSM is trying very hard to keep it going, twisting and turning and doctoring ‘evidence’.
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April 9, 2012 11:06am
thedavincimode

kk

You already are insulted. The mere fact of being here means that you are leftist knuckle-dragging homo limp-dick commie scum.

Please don’t feel left out.
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April 9, 2012 11:08am
cha

Yeah O_A, describing an armed mob of neo-nazis as a civil rights group makes it a race issue?.
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April 9, 2012 11:11am
Redbaiter

Like every other yellow piece of Marxist shit, the more truth Davinci is forced to face, the more frantic and desperate his attempts at ridicule become.
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April 9, 2012 11:13am
Redbaiter

Piss off Cha, go back to your daily reading of Das Kapital and STFU.

http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/04/sanford-fl-police-deny-any-indication-of-neo-nazis-patrolling/
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April 9, 2012 11:15am
grumpyoldhori

Don the Kiwi who the fuck cares if thick septics are black white or fucking purple.
As long as the thick bible bashing arseholes stay the fuck out of NZ.
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April 9, 2012 11:16am
thedavincimode

Come on, you can do better than that you old pussy cat.

If there’s no trade at redneckbaptistnutter.co.nz, why don’t you amalgamate with the lazy magpie. It would be far more cost-effective to have one site that nobody visits rather than two.
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April 9, 2012 11:17am
thedavincimode

grumpy

“As long as the thick bible bashing arseholes stay the fuck out of NZ.”

Whoops. Too late.
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April 9, 2012 11:18am
philu

is it still a full-moon..?

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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April 9, 2012 11:19am
krazykiwi

Redbaiter – You come back spitting in our faces, insulting your/our host. You are nasty and vile. Go away.
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April 9, 2012 11:20am
Redbaiter

Davinci is one of those who thinks Key should be a Marxist in order to remain popular with his yellow media friends. Its why the Nats are impotent losers.
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April 9, 2012 11:21am
cha

Yeah RB, my bad. It’s only a white rights group.
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April 9, 2012 11:22am
Redbaiter

Key is done next election. Well done Davinci and others. (not that he was ever worth a pinch of goat shit anyway)
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April 9, 2012 11:22am
thedavincimode

Silly magpie. Its always full moon between the m’baiter’s ears.
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April 9, 2012 11:23am
Leaping Jimmy

..the first of which promises an expose of how a member of obamas’ team is ‘gay’..?

No that’s Obama himself phil. That’s right. Your hero’s gay. Which is fine. If he’d admit it. But he doesn’t want to. Apparently he likes old white guys to suck him off. Makes him feel powerful. That about fits his personality.

And you like him. You liked Hulun too, didn’t you. I suppose you also liked Blair.

Your discernment is appalling phil. Perhaps if you weren’t so blinded by ideology but then again, you are a lefty, aren’t you…
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April 9, 2012 11:25am
thedavincimode

“Apparently he likes old white guys to suck him off.”

LOL. There ya go ‘baiter …
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April 9, 2012 11:26am
philu

red..is ‘STFU.’ a new leftist publication..?

..if not..it’s a good name for one…

and does d.v. really work with/for the manchurian candidate for the global neo-lib conspiracy to turn new zealand into a bolt-hole for those global-elites..?

..(that’s why no capital gains tax..)

..ew..!..eh..?..(do you have a soul-for-sale t-shirt..?..)

..i wonder if he got to go to the briefings key used to get from that conspiracy-financing english lord..?

..on the tarmac at wellington airport…

(‘secure’/regularly swept..the plane..ya see..they could talk freely/openly..eh..?..that candidate…and his master..?..)

.did you get to go to those..?..d.v..?

..if not..did you ever wonder just what that was all about…?

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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April 9, 2012 11:27am
Redbaiter

As I said above Davinci- just more frantic and more desperate.

I should have included pathetic.

(‘Bout time you went whining to Farrar again isn’t it?)
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April 9, 2012 11:29am
eszett

So, let me see, Obama is a gay, muslim, non-american, kenyan, marxist, racist, radical, anti-american, harvard-educated elitist, drug addict, terrorist president who can’t use photoshop properly to fake his birth certificate.

Did I cover everything?
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April 9, 2012 11:31am
thedavincimode

You, candle light, soft music … Obama …
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