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Griff

Be real
the most effective cure is owning a large brown boxer dog that is trained to attack strange cats on sight
As an added bonus the dog also works for trick or treaters, Jehovah Witnesses, politicians and Mormons
Of course the dog is so silly he would not know wot to do if he actually caught one. 🙂
Last boxer was better he did know wot to do with night time shopping Maori.He gave two or three loverly bite shaped tattoos 😆
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April 29, 2012 8:00pm
Viking2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xwXq9SeBi9k
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April 29, 2012 8:04pm
Leaping Jimmy

Gordon Bennett….the old “bottles of water deter cats/dogs” thing??? so last century…

OK Dave, in person I’d recommend a cattle prod to Beryl but I’m not allowed to say that because everything these days thanks to you bloody poofy politicians is so namby fucking pamby we can’t even electrocute animals without the whole woolly woofter lefty brigade getting up in arms and issuing prosecution notices all over the place, hence my water-bottle suggestion.

And since you were a politician at some stage then by definition and implication and law even, this is in fact, ALL YOUR FAULT. Period.

Normally I wouldn’t have mentioned all of that but you made me with your 7:50. So it’s still all your fault, although I know I could have emailed you with this, so perhaps it’s 1% my fault and 99% your fault.
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April 29, 2012 8:10pm
eszett

Fletch (2,614) Says:
April 29th, 2012 at 5:24 pm

This is what happens when you get the ignorant to teach an anti-bullying programme – he ends up bullying Christian high school students.

Yeah right. You can use the bible as a justification to bully young people, but when someone calls your bible bullshit, you walk out? Really? Very rich of you to call Dan Savage ignorant, Fletch,

When people stop putting up with christian bullying which they had too endure for centuries, suddenly the poor christians become the “bullied”. It’s exposes how truly ridiculous your positions are.

Questioning your twisted moral opinions based on some obscure writing by some backward goat-herders two millennia ago is not bullying. Especially not if you justify your own bullying and discrimination based on that obscure writing.

It’s merely ending the undeserved privilege, that you have had for such a long time, of not having to justify your positions with thinking and reason.

Good to hear in the video the cheering of most students.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alXxsKLVofM&feature=related

Mr Savage’s keynote address was presented in a large lecture hall for thousands of people.

‘People often say that they can’t help with the anti-gay bullying acts because it says right there in Leviticus, it says right there in Timothy, it says right there in Romans, that being gay is wrong,’ Mr Savage said. ‘We can learn to ignore the bullshit in the Bible and what it says about gay people.’

He compared dogmatic acceptance of anti-gay teachings equivalent to adhering to verses about slavery and eating shellfish, two issues that have been reinterpreted in modern day. Many people in the audience met his statements with applause, but some Christians did not appreciate Mr Savage’s comparison and walked out.

Great journalistic teaching as well, when they teach you to walk away when you hear something that offends you!
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April 29, 2012 8:11pm
philu

twitchy-jim/reid..

do you have a rapture-pack..?

if not..why not..

if so..what is in it..?

and why..?

and do you include clean underwear..?

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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April 29, 2012 8:12pm
Yvette

Bill Mather [New Rules April 27] is amazed the US Supreme Court allowed Mitt Romney’s team to get a $10 million “anonymous” donation.
“For all we know,” Mather jests “it came from Vladimir Putin, or Mel Gibson, or Kim Dotcom !” – audience applause and laughter.

They haven’t heard, have they?
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April 29, 2012 8:13pm
nasska

I was given one of those 2012 prophecy books for Christmas. It was the usual bullshit:

The world will end
Jesus Christ will return
Aliens will land
The Hurricanes will win the 2012 Super 15 competition.
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April 29, 2012 8:15pm
Luc Hansen

Yvette

You listen to Bill Maher!!!

At least, I presume you listen to the iTunes audio – HBO won’t even let me buy the video. Which reminds me, I must email Sky about that – I believe they holds the rights to HBO shows here and that is why we can’t buy the ones they don’t show.

But I will now read your posts with new respect.
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April 29, 2012 8:18pm
Viking2

A little kid, crying, can’t find his mother in the supermarket.

The store attendant says ‘Well, what does your mummy look like?’

The kid says, ‘I don’t know.’

http://screencast.com/t/syoKyUixw
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April 29, 2012 8:24pm
Leaping Jimmy

twitchy-jim/reid..do you have a rapture-pack..?

phil, Proverbs was made for you, my ~~ignorant and arrogant hence foolish~~ friend

10:18 The wise in heart will receive commandments: but a prating fool shall fall.

12:15 The way of a fool [is] right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel [is] wise

14:16 A wise [man] feareth, and departeth from evil: but the fool rageth, and is confident.

17:10 A reproof entereth more into a wise man than an hundred stripes into a fool.

17:28 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: [and] he that shutteth his lips [is esteemed] a man of understanding.

26:12 Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? [there is] more hope of a fool than of him.

29:11 A fool uttereth all his mind: but a wise [man] keepeth it in till afterwards.

The thing about the Bible phil is its full of layers – meanings within meanings. Every single word of every single sentence in the entire Bible has multiple layers of meaning, even the geneology records, believe it or not. The layer I’m personally on in my own journey at the moment re: the proverbs is understanding precisely how profoundly flawed and incorrect and misdirected King Solomon was in the Book of Proverbs in terms of what he was doing when it was being put together vs what it says. It’s not my main area of current interest just one of the peripheral ones. Christianity is a fascinating journey phil, only fools never begin it.

Does it never occur to you for example to wonder why great minds throughout history have devoted their whole lives to this field? People who dismiss it as mere “God bothering” never cease to astound me, in their stupidity. Quite frankly they sadden me too, but I never mention that aspect of it, since I know they would look at that as mere condescension, which it is, from their frame of reference. But I don’t come from their frame of reference so I don’t worry about what they might think, about that.
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April 29, 2012 8:34pm
Leaping Jimmy

P.S. No, I don’t have a “rapture pack,” whatever you in your hallucination might imagine that to be.
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April 29, 2012 8:38pm
nasska

LJ

Let me know when you make a start on delayering ‘Revelations’. As you know, religion doesn’t count for much in my life but I admit to a certain fascination with the last Book. It is sufficiently cryptic to make ones brain hurt when reading it.

I’ll have leave it to you to bring me up to speed.
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April 29, 2012 8:46pm
nasska

All Hurricanes games will, from now on, be shown on the SKY Gay Adult Channel. A spokesman said:

“Watching 15 arseholes get hammered for 90 minutes was not considered appropriate for prime time TV.”
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April 29, 2012 8:52pm
Griff

I believe that philu is referring to the strain of Cristian god bothers that believe that the end is nigh and have prepared a grab bag for such a civil defense emergency.
Mind you that would seem a little strange under such a scenario wot would you take?He knows who you are so no ID required. Maybe some sweeties to suck while you wait at the gates for st peter or the local bureaucracy to deal with your case. A role of pooh paper cause you now they always have shit ones in public places

I did read some were that a towel helps as well
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April 29, 2012 8:55pm
eszett

Christianity is a fascinating journey phil, only fools never begin it.

And only bigger fools never leave it.
I too was a Christian until a) I read the Bible and b) starting thinking for myself.
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April 29, 2012 9:00pm
Leaping Jimmy

I too was a Christian until a) I read the Bible and b) starting thinking for myself.

eszett if you ever thought you couldn’t do both at the same time, I know, not think but know, you are not looking at Christianity as I know, not think, it to be.

Some people get influenced in their view of Christianity by whatever it is the humans who happen to be around them at the time think its all about.

As you know, I hope, since you say you used to be a Christian, that sometimes whatever the humans say about it has nothing whatsoever to do with whatever it is that you and God truly in fact have going on deep inside and I just hope you’re giving that relationship the opportunity it needs.
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April 29, 2012 9:11pm
nasska

Griff

I reckon that the best strategy for you & me is for us to wait until the reception committee are fitting LJ & krazykiwi out with their harps & clouds.

While they’re distracted we can pick the lock on the back door.
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April 29, 2012 9:12pm
Yvette

Leaping Jimmy –
In your unlayering, Peter, when he first denied Jesus after his capture, was in the company of another disciple. Who?
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April 29, 2012 9:13pm
Leaping Jimmy

I’ll have leave it to you to bring me up to speed.

Try reading Romans as well nasska.

Fully understanding that book is a serious task at least equivalent to Revelations.

Why don’t you just ask the Lord, seriously, with true heart and soul and without smirking, to lead you to you the best possible explanation on Revelations, and believe that such will come to pass. That’s all you have to do. It’s not very difficult, is it.
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April 29, 2012 9:22pm
Fletch

eszett, this is that same Dan Savage who came up with the term “Santorum” for google, and who joined a political campaign of someone he disliked, and tried to give the flu to everyone by licking doorknobs, coffee cups, etc etc…

I went from doorknob to doorknob. They were filthy, no doubt, but there wasn’t time to find a rag to spit on. My immune system wasn’t all it should be—I was in the grip of the worst flu I had ever had—but I was on a mission. If for some reason I didn’t manage to get a pen from my mouth to Gary’s hands, I wanted to seed his office with germs, get as many of his people sick as I could, and hopefully one of them would infect the candidate.

So, much as it pains me to confirm a hateful stereotype of gay men—we will put anything in our mouths— I started licking doorknobs. The front door, office doors, even a bathroom door. When that was done, I started in on the staplers, phones and computer keyboards. Then I stood in the kitchen and licked the rims of all the clean coffee cups drying in the rack.

What a piece of ~~shit~~ work. He is being condemned by conservative gays even.

Jimmy LaSalvia, executive director of GOProud, called those statements “outrageous” and demanded an apology.
“Dan Savage should apologize for his comments and should apologize to the high school students in attendance whom he called ‘pansy-asses,’” continued LaSalvia. “It is ironic that someone whose claim to fame is fighting bullying would resort to bullying tactics in attacking high school students who were offended by his outrageous remarks.”
LaSalvia said people of faith should be treated with respect.

“Dan Savage’s outrageous anti-Christian tirade hurts – not helps – the fight for gay rights in this country,” LaSalvia said in a statement. “There is nothing incompatible between being a Christian and believing that all people should be treated equally, and Dan Savage’s attacks on Christianity only fuel those on the extremist fringe who oppose gay rights.”
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April 29, 2012 9:24pm
nasska

LJ

…”with true heart and soul”…..

Mission impossible…..the belief isn’t there.
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April 29, 2012 9:25pm
Fletch

ps…

Good to hear in the video the cheering of most students.

Ahh the unwashed masses who have been brainwashed by liberal professors.
I feel sorry for the next generation.
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April 29, 2012 9:27pm
Keeping Stock

@ Yvette – that’s going to be one of my questions to Peter one day. Like him I’m impulsive and sometimes say things before engaging the brain. It’s going to be cool to have an eternity to get to know him!
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April 29, 2012 9:28pm
Leaping Jimmy

Yvette yes I think he was, but I forget who, perhaps you can tell me and why do you ask?
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April 29, 2012 9:30pm
philu

will you have dinosaurs there..?

will you be able to ride them..?

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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April 29, 2012 9:32pm
Griff

I think id nip round the back looking for some of those 53 virgins.
Mind you that profit of the “one true god” tm did have a thing for goats.
I could never work out the lion lays down with the sheep thing
Seems that in this world interspecies copulation is somwot frowned upon.
It traumatized my childhood. Sunday school and that picture of the perverted lion and sheep.
Do you think acc could help with counseling?
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April 29, 2012 9:32pm
nasska

Keeping Stock

But what if you blot your copybook between now & departure date? You could end up chatting to one of Satan’s offsiders while undergoing a spot of roasting.

Back on your knees.
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April 29, 2012 9:34pm
big bruv

Phool

How is the job hunting going?
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April 29, 2012 9:35pm
philu

what if the rapture came when you were having a wank..?

would you be forever frozen .. in-hand..?

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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April 29, 2012 9:38pm
philu

don’t such practical questions/aspects trouble you..?

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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April 29, 2012 9:44pm
nasska

BB

How could you mention work to the man on the Sabbath of all days?

You Philistine!
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April 29, 2012 9:44pm
Nookin

Nasska

Sabbath was yesterday, was it not?
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April 29, 2012 9:50pm
Griff

You have it wrong all you have to do is send ten dollars to the church of the bleeding hart located somewhere in los Angles California and next week they will say your prayer on the radio and all your dreams will come true 🙂
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVEdYYMlOJ4

Except not the sheep and the Lion thats just wrong..
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April 29, 2012 9:52pm
big bruv

nasska

Well in the last couple of weeks I have been on a mission to help my old pal Phool. I have sent him lot’s of links to the trade me and seek websites, on those sites are hundreds of minimum wage jobs that Phool could be applying for.
I do this because I know that Phool does not have the internet at home, he is at the library using the rate payer funded internet (I never did find out what Auckland library is open 24 hours) and I did not want poor old Phool to waste bandwidth seeking out job sites.

See nasska, I really am a generous and good bastard.

Now…I am off to help my other good pal D4J.
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April 29, 2012 9:53pm
nasska

Nookin

Buggered if I know. The Concise Collins Dictionary holds thus:

1) The seventh day of the week, Saturday, Devoted to worship & rest from
work in Judaism & certain Christian Churches.

2) Sunday: observed by Christians as the day of worship & rest.

Mind you I don’t think the man in question had job seeking very high up on
his to do list yesterday either.
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April 29, 2012 10:06pm
Nostalgia-NZ

Your chance to be a good guy was when that union man pushed you in the chest in the meat works big bruv, a more immediate moment, 3 knives at the hip – than decades later calling out insults, I’m sure you’ll agree.
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April 29, 2012 10:06pm
Leaping Jimmy

philu (11,646) Says:
April 29th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
what if the rapture came when you were having a wank..?

would you be forever frozen .. in-hand..?

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz

philu (11,646) Says:
April 29th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
don’t such practical questions/aspects trouble you..?

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz

No not at all ~~phil~~ fool. You see this is the rather elementary distinction between spiritual and physical which the Bible makes terribly obvious in fact its so obvious to my own mind personally I rather think it’s designed.
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April 29, 2012 10:09pm
big bruv

Nostalgia-NZ

1. It was not at the meat works, it was a suburban butcher shop
2. I am not sure how asking Phool if he has found work yet can be construed as an insult, can you enlighten me please?
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April 29, 2012 10:19pm
Leaping Jimmy

Yes I wish the delete function was still available, that 10:09 doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.
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April 29, 2012 10:23pm
eszett

Fletch (2,616) Says:
April 29th, 2012 at 9:24 pm

eszett, this is that same Dan Savage who came up with the term “Santorum” for google, and who joined a political campaign of someone he disliked, and tried to give the flu to everyone by licking doorknobs, coffee cups, etc etc…

Yep, that’s the one.

And you are quite good at twisting the facts.

Firstly it’s not Dan Savage who came up with the definition, but one of his readers.
He then googlebombed Santorum.

And why? Because he didn’t like him? Aren’t you omitting some important facts here, Fletch? Did Santorum not openly and publicly compare homosexuality to “man on child” and “man on dog”?

A fair response if you ask me to a politician prominently promoting bigotry and ignorance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_%22santorum%22_neologism

Who is the piece of shit here now. Fletch?

Again, you guys just can’t deal with people who stand up to you.

Ahh the unwashed masses who have been brainwashed by liberal professors.
I feel sorry for the next generation.

Says the guy who applauds the brainwashing of children with religious nonsense.

No, those guys have learned to think for themselves and make up their own minds.

If anything, one needs to feel sorry for those who are brainwashed to stand up and leave and stick their heads in the sand every time someone challenges them.
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April 29, 2012 10:33pm
nasska

LJ

Well, you can take comfort from the fact that it was a fairly hard subject
to explain at the best of times & at least you gave it a shot.

Did you know if you rearrange the letters in ‘religion’ it spells ‘ngoiilre’…

Yeah, still makes absolutely fuck all sense..
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April 29, 2012 10:34pm
eszett

As you know, I hope, since you say you used to be a Christian, that sometimes whatever the humans say about it has nothing whatsoever to do with whatever it is that you and God truly in fact have going on deep inside and I just hope you’re giving that relationship the opportunity it needs.

Don’t you worry, Jimmy, I am giving god a chance at our relationship as much as I am giving Santa and the Easter Bunny at the relationship we used to have. And boy, what a deep relationship did we use to have.

Funny how it came all to an end with all three in very quick succession

Don’t get too hung up about me having been a Christian, it certainly wasn’t by choice. I was brought up in a very catholic environment and was being indoctrinated early on. Thankfully I inherited analytical and critical thinking and made use of it. Proud to say that I never made it to first communion.
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April 29, 2012 10:49pm
bereal

on and on they dance

they never tire, they strive to outdo themselves for their master.
Which one can demean himself more.

on and on, day after day,
from morning till night,

the philu drongs dance on.
See them dance, drong after drong,

the fuken idiots.

Which drong will be first to suck his tit tomorrow ?

Which drong will have the honour ?
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April 29, 2012 11:16pm
krazykiwi

Says the guy who applauds the brainwashing of children with religious nonsense.

Clearly to avoid the stinging accusation of brainwashing, every parent should raise their kids to believe what you do.
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April 29, 2012 11:18pm
bereal

Only one drong can have the ultimate honour each day,
first to suck his tit.

Then that drong will be rewarded beyond his wildest dreams.

philu will shit on him.

which drong will claim the prize ?
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April 29, 2012 11:24pm
eszett

krazykiwi (7,795) Says:
April 29th, 2012 at 11:18 pm

Says the guy who applauds the brainwashing of children with religious nonsense.

Clearly to avoid the stinging accusation of brainwashing, every parent should raise their kids to believe what you do.

Every parent should raise their children to have an open mind, be inquisitive, learn and think for themselves.
If they don’t, then hopefully the schools will do that for them.

Of course, some think that’s a bad thing.
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April 29, 2012 11:39pm
Viking2

eszett (1,169) Says:
April 29th, 2012 at 11:39 pm

krazykiwi (7,795) Says:
April 29th, 2012 at 11:18 pm

Says the guy who applauds the brainwashing of children with religious nonsense.

Clearly to avoid the stinging accusation of brainwashing, every parent should raise their kids to believe what you do.

Every parent should raise their children to have an open mind, be inquisitive, learn and think for themselves.
If they don’t, then hopefully the schools will do that for them.

Of course, some think that’s a bad thing.

Where ever did you get the idea that schools taught people to be open minded and inquisitive? If teachers were that then they wouldn’t be school teachers.
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April 30, 2012 7:10am
Viking2

So, who is going to be sacked and sued for libel now.This putfit should be cleaned out from the top. Right at the top. Dishonest, bullying etc etc. Customers would not be tollerate this in any private organization.

Recording at odds with ACC extortion allegations
PHIL KITCHIN
Last updated 05:00 30/04/2012

A recording of a critical meeting between senior ACC managers and the whistleblower who exposed a massive privacy breach reveals the corporation misled its minister and the public.

The corporation has alleged that client Bronwyn Pullar threatened at the meeting to go to the media unless she was given a guaranteed two-year benefit.

However, a recording of a key meeting in December between Ms Pullar, her support person Michelle Boag – a senior National Party figure – and two ACC managers is at odds with the corporation’s claims that were included in a report ordered by ACC Minister Judith Collins.

The ACC was given a transcript of the meeting more than three weeks ago, but has refused to correct its report.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/6826982/Recording-at-odds-with-ACC-extortion-allegations

Oh dear. Time for heads to roll.
eh Ms Collins
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April 30, 2012 7:14am
eszett

Where ever did you get the idea that schools taught people to be open minded and inquisitive? If teachers were that then they wouldn’t be school teachers.

From a radical left wing organisation controlled by the teachers union called OECD:

Funny that NZ is right up the in science and math, and NZ being constantly in the top rankings in bang-for-buck stats regarding education.

http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/34/60/46619703.pdf

The teachers seem to be doing something right.
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April 30, 2012 7:49am
UpandComer

harriet. You are a ge(nus)nius. That was funny as hell.
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