General Debate 19 April 2012

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mikenmild

I mentioned this in GD yesterday:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/6764522/Ex-RSA-head-wore-medals-he-wasn-t-entitled-to
Apparently this is very common in the US, less so in Australia, but I’m not aware of many cases here.
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April 19, 2012 8:11am
philu

i have in the past criticised the performances of metiria turei in the media..(awkwardness/unease..)

..but she kicked arse on backbenches last night..

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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April 19, 2012 8:23am
krazykiwi

The slow threadwreck begins …
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April 19, 2012 8:28am
Murray

Well theres the way to start the day, phucked up phil phantasing about getting spanked by turei.
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April 19, 2012 8:31am
Keeping Stock

Phil’s assessment of last night’s Backbenchers contrasts strongly with Deborah Coddington’s:

Disgusting personal attack on Katrina Shanks by Metiria Turei tonight on Backbenchers! Shanks handled it with amazing dignity. I would have walked out. Worst sexist attack I’ve seen outside the House.

Now; who shall I believe?
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April 19, 2012 8:34am
Pete George

In a column in DScene Turei talked up Greens as one of two major opposition parties on the basis of a very good election result and a single (Morgan) poll spike. And along similar lines to running tweet exchange with Patrick Gower recently she lambasts National, and laments National not playing ball with Greens.

Greens have figured out how to do some things very well, but how to take an active part in Government isn’t one of them. Maybe Turei could start a covert campaign of putting amendment stickers over National bills.
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April 19, 2012 8:41am
flipper

Philu and Keeping stock….

You folks are tigers for punishment. This programme (back benchers) is low grade pap. Politicotainment?
Watched the programme once and decided it is nothing more than an ego trip for self-important, half-educated, TV jerks.

Have a nice day!
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April 19, 2012 8:42am
philu

i viewed tureis’ performance as cheering confirmation of the tearing off of those memorandum-of-understanding bandages over the mouths of green leaders..for so long..

..and the emergence of the green party most of us want…one that will hold the ruling party to close account..

..and turei did not attack shanks personally…she attacked the inhuman/rand-ite policies of this nact-govt…

..citing galloping/widespread poverty..and all the ills that engenders..

..and how nact/key just ‘don’t care’…

..and how fixing these poverty-ills is just a matter of priorities..(i.e..$1.8 billion payout to the elites/1% from sth canterbury finance..)

..and yes..shanks was rocked back on her heels..

..and i am hoping this is just a taste of how the greens will now take it to nact/key..

..(and whatever coddington said/says..?..snigger/snort!!..’coddington’..?..really..?..that’s the best you’ve got..?)

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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April 19, 2012 8:43am
Keeping Stock

It’s rather ironic to see Winston Peters bleating about National “cuddling up to its buddies and selling off our laws to the highest bidder” given his past links to the racing industry, the funding and tax breaks that he won for them, and the donations that flowed NZ First’s way.

http://keepingstock.blogspot.co.nz/2012/04/ironic-quote-of-day-19-april-2012.html
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April 19, 2012 8:50am
philu

so..pete george…about yr leader dunne-the-whore..?

how is his polling going..?

..any ‘spikes’ evident..?

..what is the party called now..?

..aren’t you overdue for another name change..?

..(seeing as he is a solo act…you could go for irony..and call it ‘the for all party’..

..(that rolls off the tongue..eh..?)

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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April 19, 2012 8:50am
Keeping Stock

@ Phil; the Morgan poll spike is going to be the peak for the Greens once the public at large gets to see Turei unleashed. Couple that with a Green MP effectively saying yesterday that wilful destruction of private property was OK if the government didn’t pass the laws you wanted them to, and the real, hard-left agenda of the Greens soon becomes apparent. The public will quickly tire of Russel Norman trying hard to ignore his socialist roots to present as a moderate, or of Gareth Hughes travelling up and down the country on their taxes proferring an expert opinion on everything.

The only reason that the Greens are polling so high is because the Labour Party is so inept.

PS: Have you ever been to Ethiopia? Go and spend a few days (and nights) on the streets and in the slums in Addis Ababa, and you’ll quickly change your opinion on what constitutes poverty. On a global scale, there is precious little poverty in New Zealand, where “poverty” is measured on whether you have the latest TV, broadband internet (famously described by Hughes as “a fundamental human right”) or whether your Sky subscription is up to date.
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April 19, 2012 9:00am
philu

k.s..no..the public are fast tiring of the stench from the crony-capitalism of this govt..

..their open-handeness/genorosity to the richest…

..and their uriah heep handwringing at any suggestion of helping the poorest..

..they are a government of fucken class-thieves..concentrating on their task of common-wealth-transfer to the 1%..

(..the ‘deserving ones’..eh..?..not like those feckless/undeserving poor..eh..?)

..one manifesting the vile randite politics key/most of this nact govt cleave to..

p.s..have you ever been to port moresby..?..(not a theoretical question..i have..)

..there you will see the destination of yr rightwing/fuck-the-poor policies..

(barbed-wire/broken glass topped walls/armed-guards surrounding the houses of the ‘haves’..

..while the streets are owned by roaming gangs of the desperately poor..)

..have you actually been to ethiopia..?..or are you just also orifice-plucking..?..playing a card..?

..and do you really believe the canard that a sky ariel on a house confirms a current sky subscription..?

..are you that simplistic/unthinking..?

..what you clearly are..going on yr sneering at the poorest/ignoring of re-emergance of 3rd world disease stats..

..is ‘uncaring’..

..and that is the/yr rand-ite beliefs boiled down to one word..eh..?

…’uncaring’…

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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April 19, 2012 9:25am
Fletch

The latest “so bad it’s good” viral music video. Not sure if they’re being serious or not…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__HeE6NWmDE

“Hot girls, we have problems too.
We’re just like you,
Except we’re hot..”

I think I know people like this… 😆
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April 19, 2012 9:39am
philu

and while on the subject of rand…funny story..!

..one of the main themes of her vile (and as it turns out ‘pretend’) worldview..

.(.as you followers of her know).was her demonising of any who received any form of state-support..

..those she called ‘the leeches’..eh..?

..and how all the rewards from any enterprise/economic-system should go to those craggy/windblown industrial/corporate ‘heros’…

.the ‘creators’ of wealth..eh..?

..well..here is the funny story..(that many of you/her followers probably don’t know..)

..for the last decades of her life…rand drew down heavily on all forms of state-support..

..in her own words/judgements..she became a ‘super-leech’…

..she just did it under another name..eh..?

..didn’t want to sully the brand i guess..

..and a marxian equivalent..would be hearing that marx prepared for his retirement years by setting up/running sweatshops..eh..?

..this is the utterly bankrupt-ideology key/nact follow..

..rand is the one that key proudly boasts to have read/liked..

..(that and john grisham..if the outcomes for us/our country weren’t so dire..it’d be funny…

..the fact that the basis of the political beliefs of our prime minister..is that utter ‘fake’..ayn rand..and john grisham..)

..here is all the rand you will need:..

http://whoar.co.nz/?s=ayn+rand

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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April 19, 2012 9:42am
Fletch

Link to Google Maps showing birds-eye view of high school in Allentown, PA that looks like Millenium Falcon.

http://x.co/jSv7

Guess the planner was a Star Wars fan 🙂
“She may not look like much, kid, but she’s got it where it counts…”
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April 19, 2012 9:47am
Longknives

Speaking of Star Wars- look like it’s sex with C-3PO in the future….
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/6766294/Robot-prostitutes-the-future-of-sex-tourism
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April 19, 2012 9:53am
Leaping Jimmy

Quite an interesting article.

Sino-US wargames organised by think-tanks on both sides with Defence and State depts also involved, objective being to defuse possibility of military escalation arising from a cyber attack.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/apr/16/us-china-cyber-war-games

I wish we had think tanks like this in NZ.
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April 19, 2012 10:12am
flipper

CHANGE OF THREAD.

Wouldn’t it be fun if granny Herald ran this line, quoting either W.English or D.Parker?

…..

Hockey blasts attitude of ‘entitlement’

Michelle Grattan
April 19, 2012

SHADOW treasurer Joe Hockey has condemned systems of ”universal entitlement” in Western democracies, contrasting this attitude with the concept of ”filial piety” thriving across Asia where people get what they work for and families look after their own.

Speaking in London, Mr Hockey said that by Western standards the highly constrained public safety net in Hong Kong and other Asian places might seem brutal ”but it works and it is financially sustainable”.

”Contrast this with what we find in Europe, the United Kingdom and the United States. All of them have enormous entitlement systems spanning education, health, income support, retirement benefits, unemployment benefits.”

Government revenues fell far short of meeting the cost and the difference had to be made up by borrowing.

While he was less critical of Australia, saying that over the years there had been some key decisions to reduce spending, Mr Hockey said it still had ”a lot of spending by government which many voters see as their entitlement”.

He said a lower level of entitlement meant countries were free to allow business and individuals to be successful. ”It reduces taxation, meaning individuals spend less of their time working for the state, and more of their time working for themselves and their family.”

Both sides of the Western political spectrum were to blame for the entitlement mentality. Socialist governments had created a huge array of entitlements, and conservative governments had promised to fix the problem but just trimmed round the edges.

”Perhaps the real problem is the exuberant excesses of politicians who do not seem to understand or care about the fact that, like a household, a nation needs to balance its budget over time,” he said.

But now ”the age of unlimited and unfunded entitlement to government services and income support is over”, he said. ”We are now in an era where leaders are much more wary about credit risk.”

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/hockey-blasts-attitude-of-entitlement-20120418-1x7zs.html#ixzz1sQuzQ62P
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April 19, 2012 10:23am
mister nui

I know we’re poorly served by the media in this country and most of the scribes masquerading as journalists are downright thick, but, can anyone tell me when Boeing started building A330’s?

In February Garuda ordered 230 new aircraft from Boeing in a $US22.4 billion deal which includes 11 new A330 wide-body jets.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/6752124/Direct-flights-to-Indonesia-to-resume
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April 19, 2012 10:36am
kowtow

pg @841 “greens have figured out how to do some things pretty well” No I don’t think so, the greens have an environmentalist/leftist media on their side so get a hugely disproportionate amount of coverage they don’t deserve.

leaping jimmy @1012
just another opportunity for the comrades to steal American technology. I’d bet the military were forced into it by the State Department.
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April 19, 2012 10:46am
Elaycee

misternui says: “I know we’re poorly served by the media in this country and most of the scribes masquerading as journalists are downright thick…..”

Yup – the ‘journalist’ who penned this story (Danya Levy) is just another from the production line of airheads who doesn’t let facts get in the way of their own fantasy version of events.

I note she is also a political reporter for Fairfax…. quelle surprise! 😀
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April 19, 2012 10:54am
krazykiwi

Excellent news from Andrew Bolt:

The Arts are Warming to Climate [change] Scepticism .

Here’s proof the climate really is changing. The Melbourne Theatre Company is putting on a play next month with a global warming sceptic as the hero. Swear to God. Even artists are now serving the Greens – up on a plate.
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April 19, 2012 10:55am
philu

another rand funny-story..!

..much as her acolyte key enjoys the low-end of culture..(grisham..’the biggest loser’..(!)..)

..rand had similar tastes.

..her favourite tv show..?…’charlies’ angels’..

..’nuff said..?

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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April 19, 2012 11:05am
graham

philu:

You seem to have a huge interest in Rand.

Is this like that story you reported a week ago? About people denouncing homosexuals, because they have secret repressed homosexual tendancies?

Are you really a Rand disciple?
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April 19, 2012 11:09am
philu

no..i just recognised how important it is to understand who the right wing worships/follows…

..i have a ‘huge interest’ in the motivations/beliefs of our political leaders..

..and to make sure people know just how morally bankrupt those beliefs/that ‘objectivist’ philosophy is..

..and what that tells us/explain about how/why our current political leaders just ‘don’t care’ about the human costs of/from their twisted/economic-class-ridden beliefs/policies..

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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April 19, 2012 11:16am
graham

If you have a huge interest in the motivations of our political leaders, then you must realise just how bereft of morals some of Helen Clark’s decisions were …

… and how the Greens follow their own “morals”, but the problem is that their “morals” are driven by different values and are utterly blind to the impact their decisions and policies have – as long as they follow their particular and very specific moral compass, they (to use your own prase) just don’t care about the human costs.
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April 19, 2012 11:56am
Leaping Jimmy

Something for all those fools who think Iran would be easy just like Iraq was. It won’t be. Quite apart from all the bombings in all the Western capitals which would occur (costing thousands of innocent lives [white not raghead lives so they’re worth more, aren’t they] – for what? – which some people would no doubt blame on Iran – fucken d’oh, why not blame the western politicians for it since they’re the ones who would have started it, wouldn’t they…), both Russia and China will become involved as well, causing who knows what consequences in respect of the US
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-04-09/news/31311454_1_russian-defense-ministry-military-action-dmitry-rogozin

just another opportunity for the comrades to steal American technology. I’d bet the military were forced into it by the State Department.

kowtow I bet you’re wrong. The military does not get forced into those sorts of things by State when something as important as technology security is at stake. It was the military who prevented Bush from striking Iran and forced Bush to implement a no-overflight policy for Israeli jets which is why Israel and US tried to get a base in Georgia which is why Putin invaded it in 2008 and the military did all that because it knew that if Iran was hit then all its Iraq supply lines would be cut and all the marines on the ground in Iraq would be lost. I’m not interested in discussing those incidents they’re ancient history I only raise them as an example to illustrate the US military is not without its own sources when it comes to the power centres in Washington.

Anyway, how could US technology possibly be compromised by such an exercise? I mean duh. What do you think happens in these things anyway? It was an exercise to expose patterns of decision making so both sides could understand how each other thinks under known variables. That’s all it was. How could US technology possibly be exposed, in that?
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April 19, 2012 12:02pm
graham

Actually, the more I think about it, the more ironic I find it that philu talks about “our current political leaders just ‘don’t care’ about the human costs …”

Since when have you ever cared about the wider impacts to your own community of the decisions you make?
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April 19, 2012 12:08pm
Viking2

LATEST: A 95-year old (NZ CITIZEN) and WAR VETERAN was allegedly stabbed in the head by his neighbour in his own house last night.

Albert Chant is recovering in Auckland City Hospital this morning after surgery.

Court documents show his neighbour, Jacob Komene, 20, is due to appear in court this morning on charges relating to the alleged stabbing.

Perhaps Komene should be sent to war in Afghanistan for 6 years as punishment.
I would vote for that.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/6771274/95-year-old-Auckland-man-stabbed-in-head
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April 19, 2012 12:15pm
Leaping Jimmy

graham the Gweens are handicapped not just morally but also mentally: i.e. they’re thick.

They constantly pick issues where as time goes by they’re proven wrong, again and again and again. e.g. AGW – wrong. Peak Oil – wrong. Fracking – wrong.

You name it, they’re wrong.

The only reason they survive is there’s a section in the population who’s even dumber than they are. Personally I don’t think it’s any coincidence that as the education system has been dumbed down (by the lefties) the far left vote has been growing and guess what – most of the far left voters are young: i.e. the people recently graduated from the dumbed down system.

Tragic isn’t it. Also evil, but mostly tragic.
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April 19, 2012 12:17pm
big bruv

The female co leader of the Gweens really is a nasty, fat and ugly chick.
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April 19, 2012 12:18pm
Viking2

Bruv. they breed as well.Unfortunately.
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April 19, 2012 12:30pm
Leaping Jimmy

Keep an eye out for the full file mentioned in this story: – The Middle Eastern Games by Vladimir Vinogradov. The article says it’s to be published in a Moscow journal but I can’t find it but if it’s true, then it points to high level geopolitical manipulation of the kind one can normally only infer. Kissinger as everyone should know is one of the key players and remains so to this day (e.g. he’s Sarah Palin’s programmer).

http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-history-strategy/161178-what-really-happened-yom-kippur-war.html

It’s the usual story though:

Vinogradov takes a leaf from Sherlock Holmes who said: when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. He writes: These questions can’t be answered if Sadat is to be considered a true patriot of Egypt. But they can be answered in full, if we consider a possibility of collusion between Sadat, the US and Israeli leadership…

Same with 911 – logic, not emotion, leads to the truth.
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April 19, 2012 12:34pm
tknorriss

“The female co leader of the Gweens really is a nasty, fat and ugly chick.”

Yeah. If you’re already a fat, ugly chick, the last thing you can afford to be is nasty.
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April 19, 2012 12:34pm
Viking2

Collins ‘not satisfied’ with ACC
By Claire Trevett
9:20 AM Thursday Apr 19, 2012

ACC minister Judith Collins has told an employers group that ACC needs to rebuild public trust and had fallen short in protecting privacy after a realm of controversies and complaints about it.

MS Collins also implied ACC had gone too far in deciding cases were entitled to compensation, saying while it should not be seen as a “soft touch” it should follow a fair process.

“We would like to see a renewed focus in ACC towards a rebalance of the broader responsibilities it has to all New Zealanders. It must ensure entitlements are delivered transparently and fairly to those who need them.”

Well said Ms Collins and if you deliver on that ACC wil be a much better organization.
You will of course have to fire the top management as they are so entrenched with the adversarial attitude towards their funders and customers that they will never change. They will revert to norm the moment the heat goes off.
Fire them from Chairman down. He, after all has been in charge of this rotten ship and therefore should take responsibility for its bad attitudes.
Put Ms Pullar in charge of the customer function. Get that bit right and the rest will work.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10799984
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April 19, 2012 12:35pm
Nookin

I guess this explains a great deal. Hat tip: Whale.

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/04/is-veganism-healthy.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+andrewsullivan%2FrApM+%28The+Daily+Dish%29
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April 19, 2012 12:46pm
wreck1080

For Shearer to complain about the low wage NZ economy is a hoot!

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10800017

One of Labours main goals at the beginning of their 9 year reign of destruction was to ramp up NZ’s economy and catch up with Aussie by using green technologies.

Given that labour had 9 years to achieve this goal I don’t think Shearer has the right to criticize.

Mind you , John Key also had lofty economic goals that are looking like failing too.
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April 19, 2012 1:17pm
Leaping Jimmy

Wait a second V2. Firstly, the privacy aspects having nothing whatsoever to do with the decision making over entitlement or otherwise. The two are totally separate things requiring totally separate solutions.

Secondly, it was National in its first term under Nick Smith who directed ACC to harden up on its entitlement processes in order to save money, so it’s pretty fucking rich for Collins to criticise it on those grounds now.

Thirdly, it’s unclear from the report on what Collins said as to whether Collins is saying ACC are too soft or too hard or even whether she’s saying something else. All that’s clear is she’s saying something needs to change. But what that something is, is not clear.

Fourthly, Pullar is a PR spin specialist who would I guarantee have no fucking idea of operations management at all so why would she be good at improving customer service operations? Her actions throughout this whole episode in stepping outside the process to engage her political mates in order to get herself special treatment above and beyond what any other customer gets, disqualifies her in my view from any special treatment at all. She should be put at the back of the queue and told to wait her turn. The amount of time and effort she has caused ACC to waste on her case is monumental. Fact is the bloody politicians caused this bullshit in the first place by getting involved. I mean, why the fuck did Smith write that letter? What a dumbo. He shot himself in the foot. Then the board chairman or deputy got involved as well. WTF? Pullar was a fucking customer FFS. Nothing more. Does this mean that every customer can write to the Board Chair and request their involvement and if not, why not? That’s what they’ve done. (And Board is a political appointment, so I lump them in with politicians in terms of responsibility for this shit).

The only fuckup ACC is responsible for and it is a massive one admittedly, is the sending of other people’s details to other customers. I mean der. That is a problem. But everything else in this saga has been caused by political (including board) interference and those are the people and those are the only people who need to suffer here. Including Pullar who started it all, by being sent to the back of the queue, where her claim is considered in due course, when ACC can get around to it.
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April 19, 2012 1:18pm
DJP6-25

krazykiwi 10:55 am. Good, I hope it’s the start of a trend.

cheers

David Prosser
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April 19, 2012 2:10pm
krazykiwi

Austrian village F—ing to vote on name change

The Austrian village of F—ing is to vote on a name change in an attempt to escape the constant ridicule and attention the name attracts the hamlet.

The 104 residents of the village will cast their votes later this week on whether to alter the name.

“People are now willing to discuss changes to the spelling of the name,” Franz Meindl, the village’s mayor, said in a television interview. “But first all F—ingers have to agree on whether want to change it or not.”

For centuries the tiny village in northern Austria lived life in happy obscurity, but life changed when US troops, stationed in the area at the end of the Second World War, discovered it, and since then the village’s name has been a constant source of amusement for tourists and irritation for locals.

At least 13 £250 road signs bearing the village’s name have been stolen, and the sight of semi-naked women posing for photographs beside signs has become a common sight. One local business woman, exasperated with people stealing her sign has taken to adding another “g” in the hope it will deter thieves

I wonder how much swearing there’ll be at this village vote 😀
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April 19, 2012 2:26pm
Longknives

Just saw this- Christ on a bike that’s ugly!!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2130993/Meet-Nelson-baby-parrot-ugliest-bird-world.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
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April 19, 2012 2:51pm
Pete George

At a glance David Shearer’s latest speech is very disappointing, even if I’ve only been faintly optimistic.

It’s titled “A country that works for you”, maybe he means something different but if the country does all our work we don’t need to do any?

His penultimate paragraph talks about “which of the 26 toilets they might use tomorrow”.

Then he closes with “But if you think we can do better, let’s get going.”

Really. I’d flush his speech writer down one of those dunnies. More on my Shearer despair.”
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April 19, 2012 2:53pm
bereal

Pete George @ 2.53

That was one of your best posts for a long time.

All sorts would agree with your final sentence.
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April 19, 2012 3:58pm
Leaping Jimmy

Really good WWII colour photos.

http://pavel-kosenko.livejournal.com/303194.html?thread=22669914

You know how the History and Discovery channels shows endless WWII docos? Sometimes I wonder whether they’d still be shown to us in the vast quantity they are, if they all looked as real as these photos, making us subconsciously realise that the 60 million people who died really were flesh and blood people just like us and not just black and white pictures which inure us to the reality of the real and actual horror.

Speaking of which, Shearer’s speech Pete, I quite agree. I tire of the politics of envy of which it simply drips. I wish Key would grow some balls and take on people like Shearer, grab him by the tie and shove him against the wall and ask the fucking little wimp just precisely how the fuck the country is supposed to prosper under his formula which appears to involve nothing productive or new whatsoever. I really, really, really wish that would really happen. Then I wish Key would end it by giving him a hard knee in the crotch and walk away, while Shearer just lay in a foetal position grabbing his balls like the little girl he really is. Hulun would have done that, if she were Key. And apparently, some people reckon she was the best PM NZ ever had, so I don’t know why Key doesn’t do it.

BTW, DPF, I get really sick of WordPress’s attempted corrections based on US spelling. Any chance of setting it for proper English, not the US version? e.g. fetal vs foetal.
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April 19, 2012 3:59pm
bereal

graham @ 11.09 , and onwards….

How long have you loved it as you bend over and have it shoved up you by a piece of shit who laughs at you ?

Now there are a few correspondents that love it up them, and have sucked it up for some time, unable to help themselves
for reasons best known to themselves.

Why do YOU choose to join them ?
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April 19, 2012 4:42pm
Pete George

I’d hoped Shearer really would make a difference for Labour but so far he doesn’t seem to be any better than Goff, and maybe even more under the control of whoever keeps coming up with their astonishingly bad strategies.

Clare Curran is steaming more than Josephine ever did, about the announcement by Kiwirail to try and sell Hillside Workshops. She’s right, it’s a sort of asset sale, but very diffeent to the government selling a whole SOE and using the proceeds for something else.

Kiwirail want’s to sell one of it’s own business units and use the proceeds for itself.

Curran should ask whoever re-nationalised Kiwirail what conditions it operates under regarding sales of part of it’s operation.
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April 19, 2012 4:43pm
nasska

LJ

….”BTW, DPF, I get really sick of WordPress’s attempted corrections based on US spelling. Any chance of setting it for proper English, not the US version? e.g. fetal vs foetal.”…..

Seconded!
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April 19, 2012 4:54pm
Lee01

The Christchurch Press lied. Again.

Why is it that whenever the Press reports on the Anglican Church they either get the facts totally wrong, or they lie?

From the AC, Christchurch Diocese:

“No ratepayers’ money is being sought for building the Transitional Cathedral. The Diocese of Christchurch has approved $4 million from insurance monies. Final detailed costings are being undertaken at the moment, and the build budget will be strictly controlled. The Cathedral is not seeking and will not seek any funding from the Christchurch City Council [CCC] to pay for the building of the Transitional Cathedral.”
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April 19, 2012 4:56pm
philu

why exactly do they need a fucken ‘transitional’ cathedral..?

..the anglican church cd barely muster a rugby team in most churches..

..i repeat..why the fuck do they need a ‘transitional’ cathedral…?

..useless fucken monuments to peoples’ insecurities/fears…

..phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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April 19, 2012 4:59pm
bereal

Now i don’t know how loud David Benson-Pope yelled out as he won the prize for the Heavyist weight hung from
a pin thru his scrote at the deviants club in Dunedin.

But i hear Clare can scream up a good storm as she bends over to break her duck …..

Keep up the good work Dunedin South,,,,

( just to be nasty,, was all that screaming because she nearly came, or was it because it was just the
first bit she had ever had in her hole life? )
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April 19, 2012 5:05pm
Lee01

“the anglican church cd barely muster a rugby team in most churches”

Untrue, and ignorant.

“i repeat..why the fuck do they need a ‘transitional’ cathedral”

A cathedral is not an optional extra, it is essential to the Episcopal structure of the Church. The Cathedral is the seat of the Bishop.

“useless fucken monuments to peoples’ insecurities/fears”

No, they are places for people to worship God.

I repeat, what have YOU done for the struggling and the homeless of Christchurch?

NOTHING.
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April 19, 2012 5:09pm
thedavincimode

beryl

You really must stop using Brasso instead of Bailey’s. It might be cheaper but the medium to long term health effects are becoming increasingly apparent.
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April 19, 2012 5:12pm
bereal

Sorry thedavincimode,
didn’t know you were from Dunedin.

Very touchy down there it seems.

Oh no,,, don’t tell you you are still pissed off cause you only came second ?
That bastard DBP.
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April 19, 2012 5:17pm
philu

“..I repeat, what have YOU done for the struggling and the homeless of Christchurch?..”

and what the fuck does a multi-million dollar ‘transitional’-cathedral do ‘for the struggling and the homeless of Christchurch?..”..?

..pray tell..?

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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April 19, 2012 5:56pm
philu

and interesting how lee on the norway thread reveals himself as one of the most bigoted/hate-filled of ‘the christians’…

..and here he is defending this monument to folly…

..phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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April 19, 2012 5:59pm
bereal

Some will never learn, how sad.

Some mugs can never win, they are too nice and do not understand
that they are dealing with a cunning piece of shit that has devoted a lifetime to nothing else
except being a smart arse .
When will some mugs figure it out that by engaging with a piece of shit they can never win.
With genuine good intentions all they do is feed the piece of shit.

It’s so sad when you see a well meaning mug ask a genuine question to a POS and the
POS answeres it with just another question.

You gotta ask. When will the mug wake up ?

Course the smart arse piece of shits whole existence depends upon the penny never drops for the mug.
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April 19, 2012 6:10pm
wat dabney

“The revolutionary calculator that shows the answer only when you also enter a suitable mental estimate.”

http://qamacalculator.com/qama/
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April 19, 2012 6:25pm
Viking2

Leaping Jimmy (10,358) Says:
April 19th, 2012 at 1:18 pm

You have clearly been asleep and unobservant for a number of weeks or even years. ACC have been appallingly bad for a longtime. Smith made them wortse yes and appointed people who made the problem worse.

Pullar has a long record of customer service work. Check it out for yourself.
The Privacy iussue is a failure of Board and Management. The board are responsible for policy and funding. Fail.
The management are responsible for the operation of the systems and management of the people and systems. Fail
Board fail Management fail.
Time for better.

The only ethos any insurance outfit ever has is how to minimze what it pays. So if the ” insurance” factor rules then the customer and the funder are rooted by every insurance man on this planet. Why ACC is disfunctional
No Clear Mandate for the customer.
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April 19, 2012 6:51pm
Steve

Longknives @ 2.51pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2130993/Meet-Nelson-baby-parrot-ugliest-bird-world.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

That is not a parrot, it is Whore on a good day, and he is a Magpie
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April 19, 2012 7:16pm
joana

An AFL ”cultural ambassador ” is demanding that there be prayer rooms at every venue. Winds of Jihad.
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April 19, 2012 7:19pm
nasska

A scientist from Texas A&M University has invented a bra
that keeps women’s breasts from jiggling and prevents the
nipples from pushing through the fabric when there is a
cold draft.

After a news conference announcing the invention, the scientist
was taken outside by a large group of men and had the
shit kicked out of him. He is not expected to recover.
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April 19, 2012 8:01pm
adze

(Post moved here once I realised I wasn’t in GD…)

It’s not often that a crime report makes me chuckle:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/6776118/Man-accused-of-assaulting-with-coconut

Fairfield man Ethan Stockman, 18, appeared in Hamilton District Court today accused of assaulting another man in January, using a coconut as a weapon.
His bail conditions dictate he was not to have any contact with the complainant.

Yes, I imagine he’d be a little coconut shy.
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April 19, 2012 9:39pm
graham

bereal at 4:42 pm:

How much time do you spend on this site, compared to me? And how often do you get your ass handed to you on a plate, compared to me?

I think you have the addiction problem, not me. I am actually trying (unsuccessfully it seems) to avoid baiting philu, although not for the reasons you think. Whereas you seem to go out of your way to be contrary …
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April 19, 2012 9:45pm
graham

… Meh, who cares. Off to bed, work tomorrow.

Feel free to carry on being as obnoxious as you can, bereal. Maybe I’ll check it out tomorrow.

Maybe not.
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April 19, 2012 9:49pm
Viking2

Sobbering Reading before you get married.

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“Did you know you were making a mistake as you were walking down the aisle?” This was the question Jennifer Gauvain and Anne Milford asked 1000 women as research for their book How Not to Marry the Wrong Man.

A staggering 30 per cent of respondents said yes, they did know. But, they did it anyway.

Gauvain, a licensed clinical social worker, wrote about it in this blog for the Huffington Post. Perhaps unsurprisingly, given divorce rates in the US are around 40 per cent – versus about one third in New Zealand and Australia – it caused an uproar.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/love-sex/6774107/Why-women-marry-the-wrong-men
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