General Debate 17 April 2012

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philu

i say lots and lots of different things..

btw..whatever happened to that troll that specialised in dusky-skin-crime..?

..remember how every court report with a brown-named defendant would be eagerly/smugly posted..?

..whatever happened to that troll..?’

..what was their name..?

..isn’t fame fleeting..?

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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April 17, 2012 6:35pm
slijmbal

I see Bridgecrop director got a vaguely real sentence of 2 years.

Considering the known open sore that finance companies were in NZ this is a better outcome than I expected.

Shame the finance advisors who knew that it (and other finance companies) was a very risky investment don’t get to share a cell

On a side note – can someone provoke phil u to get banned – he’s ruining the bloody site
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April 17, 2012 6:45pm
Steve

Why don’t you slijmbal?

Nah don’t, just ignore the stupid drug crazed prick
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April 17, 2012 6:54pm
bereal

SGA @ 6.13

You need to come up to speed mate.
Did you miss my effort @ 10.47 today ?
Have you read any news in the last 20 years ?

You say you don’t see why the issue is unique to muslim immigrants.
Let me try and help you.

Couple of real simple questions for you, to try and help you get a grip.

Where in the western world has muslim immigration been successfull ? and.

If you had to hazard a guess, why would you think that muslim immigrants are
different than any other class of immigrants ?

Take a wild stab mate….

Two straight questions… don’t try and answer them by asking another question.

Just have a go. i’m trying to help you.
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April 17, 2012 6:57pm
SGA

@bereal

Sorry, I have trouble understanding what you or philu are on about. I usually just scroll over it to the next post (I only read this because of the SGA tag). Sorry, if I missed something important.
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April 17, 2012 7:04pm
thedavincimode

No probs. It’ll be stoned to the max shortly and the little bird brain system will crash.

Renewed and revitalised by its narcotic slumber, it will rise in the morn in its self-delusion like a colossal turd surfing the wave of taxpayer munificence. That might seem unfortunate on the one hand, but on the other it’s a constant reminder that no matter how badly each of us might occasionally fuck things up, the prospects of experiencing anything like the lazy little shit’s life of crushing failure are about zilch.
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April 17, 2012 7:08pm
Viking2

PEB install firefox. i.e. is a dog at the best of times and is to open to hacking.
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April 17, 2012 7:11pm
bereal

SGA

OK no probleemo , however thats a pity mate.
No need to apologise.
You can’t do it, we understand, no need to feel bad. But.

i posed two straight questions to you and you say you have trouble understanding….
Maybe if you got your Mum to read them to you it would help.

Have another read and then try real hard…..

c’mon mate don’t let yourself down.

Two straight questions……i’m not trying to trap you.

Man up…. have a go at answering…..even one of them.
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April 17, 2012 7:12pm
Viking2

Acc in trouble again.
Sure needs a clean out at the top.

The ACC plot sickens
Last month’s gloat over the ACC mess has gotten a lot more personal. ACC has written to Mum explaining that she is among the 6000 leaked claimants that Bronwyn Pullar sent to the media.

Mum is distraught that her private medical information and case notes have been looked at by Dagg knows who. The Privacy Commission has been in contact and she has lodged a formal complaint with Marie Schroff’s office.

When the Law Society rang Mum, they were very interested in Mum’s ACC correspondence as well. It seems Bronwyn Pullar isn’t the only person to receive other people’s personal medical information from ACC. They had sent Mum other claimants’ personal information amongst her own as well. It seems that a) ACC has a huge systemic issue with privacy, and b) even injured police officers have difficulty getting any fair go from ACC.

This ACC thing could easily change from a clusterfuck to a full-blown shit supernova.
Posted by Will de Cleene at 09:14
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April 17, 2012 7:13pm
mikenmild

I’ll answer them – they’ve been answered often before…
Immigration is a largely unstoppable force and generally very positive. Western European countries have benefited hugely from immigration, including Muslims.
Muslim immigrants are different from other immigrants in respect of their religion.
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April 17, 2012 7:15pm
Leaping Jimmy

On a side note – can someone provoke phil u to get banned – he’s ruining the bloody site

Actually slijmbal that’s a bloody good game idea. What fun. In between studiously ignoring phil, everyone on KB tries to subtly provoke him into making a comment similar to what got him banned last time. (I remember it vaguely but can’t be arsed looking for it, the usual keywords didn’t work and phil doesn’t interest me enough to keep looking…)

Rules appear to be: philu has to be fooled into making a really insulting comment directed at DPF (he doesn’t seem to like that). Otherwise it won’t work: i.e. insulting comments directed at the taunter won’t produce the goods.

That’s it, really.

So let the games commence. What say you phil? One day, one innocent day on GD, your guard down, just another topic, your plumery fully erect, just finished yet another vaporiser, a carefully chosen phrase… careful… look, over there… check … careful… another response, another vaporiser, a lefty meme, no recognition… something about vegans and girlies… careful, careful… he’ll spot us.. poor people… the unemployed… solo parents…

You see how much fun we’ll have? Just about as much fun phil as you have with us.

And we’ll get ya. One day, when you’re not looking, we’ll get ya phil. Then that’s it. Banned. Six months. Again. You idiot. Fell for it. Couldn’t resist it, could ya.

What fun.
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April 17, 2012 7:17pm
big bruv

Toad

Can you update the list of things the Greens want to ban?

I lost count at about 134.
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April 17, 2012 7:22pm
thedavincimode

Little Jim

“… your plumery fully erect …”

The mind boggles.
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April 17, 2012 7:24pm
thedavincimode

BB

#135 is rooting (unless its the economy).
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April 17, 2012 7:25pm
Leaping Jimmy

It seems that a) ACC has a huge systemic issue with privacy, and b) even injured police officers have difficulty getting any fair go from ACC…

This ACC thing could easily change from a clusterfuck to a full-blown shit supernova.

Firstly why should “injured police officers” be treated or are treated any differently from any other claimant? (Given we ALL pay for it, don’t we.)

Secondly: shit. Crikey. Criiiiiiikeeeey. Really? Surely not. Surely they haven’t got such a systemic problem they’ve been sending other people’s info out in the mail to other people. Surely. Fuck me, if they have. Seriously? You have to be joking. If so this goes beyond violating even basic corporate operations it’s like violating kindy level operations whereby Mary accidentally got Johnny’s note to take home which explained what a bad boy Johhny was that day for doing ‘x.’ I bet even Kindies have that sort of thing sorted by now but apparently ACC don’t?

Fark.

The mind boggles.

Yes tdm, I thought long and hard afore putting that imagery into the public domain but at the end of the day, this is war and ‘Know thy enemy’ as Tsn Tzu says…
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April 17, 2012 7:32pm
bereal

Good.

Now we are in business.

Mikenmild says, Western european countries have benefited hugely from muslim immigration.

Just to K.I.S.S.

Which country and how ?

Just one simple question.

And hey, mikenmild, maybe SGA could chime in to help answer that.
Seeing you are trying to help him/her out.
( he/she might be getting a clue if he has asked his/her Mum) Just joking about SGA

but i do rate you as having some clue so i look forward to your reply.
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April 17, 2012 7:37pm
toad

@big bruv 7:22 pm

I am not suggesting in my 6:30 pm comment that anything should be banned – just suggesting SkyCity should use the technology they already have to identify problem gamblers, rather than to encourage and enable them which is what they are currently using that technology for.
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April 17, 2012 7:45pm
thedavincimode

toady says:

“I am not suggesting in my 6:30 pm comment that anything should be banned –”

So why do you want to ban rooting (unless it’s the economy)?
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April 17, 2012 7:47pm
Other_Andy

“Western European countries have benefited hugely from immigration, including Muslims.”

Immigration comes at hefty price
http://vorige.nrc.nl/international/Features/article2514448.ece/Immigration_comes_at_hefty_price

This is from a highly respectable newspaper.
There are lots more ‘studies’ showing that immigration from ‘non-western’ countries has been very expensive and has not benefited the host countries. Big companies benefited in the 60s and 70s when they ‘imported’ 100s of thousands unskilled (And often illiterate) workers from third world countries to keep salaries down. The social costs are now mounting.
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April 17, 2012 7:48pm
Luc Hansen

David Garrett (1,345) Says:
April 17th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Someone here will know more than me on this…isnt one of the hallmarks of psycopathy an unalterable belief in ones superiority to others, even in the face of of overwhelming evidence that such a belief is entirely unjustified?

Is this post intended as some kind of confession by David Garrett? Or is it unintended irony from someone with such an unalterable belief in his own superiority that he stole the identity of a dead infant?

I don’t know the answer to that question.

One thing I do now know, though: Garrett, even for him, going by his post immediately prior to the one I have quoted here, is plumbing new depths.

Phil U may not be everyone’s cup of tea, and I find his writing style particularly irritating, but as regards Garrett, he is pretty much on the money.

DG, my advice is to seek treatment from the Phobic Trust.
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April 17, 2012 7:49pm
philu

why did reid become little jimmy..?

oh..hang on..dosen’t matter..eh..?

(that fleeting fame thing again..eh..?.)

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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April 17, 2012 7:50pm
toad

@thedavincimode 7:47 pm

In case you didn’t notice, the Greens supported the legalisation of prostitution. My recollection is that most of the MPs who wanted it to be banned were Nats.
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April 17, 2012 7:51pm
Steve

…when did whore become a phool…?
…ever since he became a drug addicted parasite…
…that’s when…
…now he teaches others. his son. to be a loser…
…no more meal ticket phool…
…get a job arsehole…
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April 17, 2012 7:59pm
big bruv

Toad

No, outright “banning” is not something the Greens would ever be so silly to state in public.

You have other ways, ways that enable you to do exactly what you want and yet still bullshit the public into thinking you are not banning another activity that the Greens do not agree with.

I can imagine that you would insist that Sky pay a “special levy” to cover the costs of idiots who have no self control when it comes to gambling. Of course the result of this “special levy” would be that Sky go out of business.
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April 17, 2012 8:01pm
Don the Kiwi

didn’t philu wet his pants and implode when he was called a meth cooker?

Maybe that’s how he funds his habit.
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April 17, 2012 8:02pm
Luc Hansen

Bereal

Mike may be having a well-deserved break, so I will put my oar in.

In countries where immigration was encouraged for economic reasons that were later found to be wanting (e.g. cheap labour as per our Polynesian experience) and those immigrants were then thrown onto the scrapheap of discrimination, marginalisation and miserly benefits, there will be entirely understandable and predictable problems, but, and this is my point, the fault does not lie with the immigrant population.

In countries where Muslims were not imported to be treated in such a manner, and the US is a very good example, they are as valuable as any other immigrant group, including the Europeans – although I’m sure the remaining indigenous population would object to ascribing value to the perpetrators of genocide.

Many immigrant populations encounter problems not of their own making. Their religion is not the problem. Often, our greed and self-interest is.
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April 17, 2012 8:02pm
Leaping Jimmy

the Greens supported the legalisation of prostitution

Yes of course you did. The Gweens really think it’s just terrific to have brothels operating right next to intermediate and high schools don’t you toad. Of course you do. It’s about human wights, isn’t it. And if the neighbours object, well they’re just wacist facist bastards aren’t they? Yes they are, according to Gween party pwinciples, appawently.

Just two questions toad.
1) How come you and your disgusting ilk didn’t tell people (i.e. the voters) at the time this would be the inevitable consequence of your legislation?
2) Has any Gween official or politician who used to own a house within a km of a suburban brothel sold it since your disgusting law was enacted and if so, why?

didn’t philu wet his pants and implode when he was called a meth cooker?

Thanks Don. Let’s just file that away for the “great game.” (Tee hee).
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April 17, 2012 8:05pm
nasska

To help writers with cramp, here are some suggestions to use instead of lengthy politically correct terms.

The term “ethnically-diverse-multicultural area” can now be deemed a “shit hole”

The term “anti-social-behaviour” is now simply known as “fun”.

And the term “mentally impaired” is now known as “Green”
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April 17, 2012 8:05pm
big bruv

David Garrett must be doing something right. He has managed to piss off both our resident parasite and our resident cheer leader for middle eastern terrorists.

Keep up the good work David G.
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April 17, 2012 8:05pm
Steve

Don,
We the TAXPAYERS fund the dropkick’s habit. All and everything available is exploited
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April 17, 2012 8:08pm
Luc Hansen

Actually BB, i’m not pissed off at DG.

If I was Christian, I would pray for the poor fellow.

But I’m not, so I will just hope he gets well soon.
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April 17, 2012 8:09pm
Luc Hansen

Steve, PhilU was recently interviewed on Jim Mora’s show, and he certainly did not present as a dropkick.

The tenor of your and others comments about Phil indicate just who are the real dropkicks on this site.

Were you bullied at school Steve? Is this all about Karma for that? Don’t you think you should let it go?
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April 17, 2012 8:15pm
Steve

Who is Jim Mora? another trendy leftie? Has his own show?
Fuck me, he is a RNZ star.

Leave it out Luc. Whore is shit and RNZ is shit
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April 17, 2012 8:21pm
philu

he has gone looking for his arse..that garrett..

it happens to him a lot/on a regular basis….

(i’ve hidden it..heh..!..)

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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April 17, 2012 8:22pm
Steve

Here is a copy and paste joke. Meatheads will not get it.

Doctors

(A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is

700,000.

(B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians

per year are 120,000.

(C) Accidental deaths per physician

is 0.171

Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of

Health and Human Services.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Now think about this:

Guns

(A) The number of gun owners in the U.S.

is 80,000,000.

(Yes, that’s 80 million)

(B) The number of accidental gun deaths

per year, all age groups,

is 1,500.

(C) The number of accidental deaths

per gun owner is 0.0000188

Statistics courtesy of FBI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

So, statistically, doctors are approximately

9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Remember, ‘Guns don’t kill people, doctors do.’

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN,

BUT

Almost everyone has at least one doctor.

This means you are over 9,000 times more likely to be killed by a doctor as by a gun owner!!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Please alert your friends to thisalarming threat.

We must ban doctors before this gets completely out of hand!!!!!

Out of concern for the public at large,

We withheld the statistics on lawyers

For fear the shock would cause

People to panic and seek medical attention!!!
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April 17, 2012 8:22pm
Elaycee

toad (6.30pm) says: “The irony is that the technology used for Premier Rewards could be used to identify and bar problem gamblers. But that’s not what SkyCity are using it for. They’re using it to create more problem gamblers.”

Repeated again at 7.35pm: “….SkyCity should use the technology they already have to identify problem gamblers, rather than to encourage and enable them which is what they are currently using that technology for.”

Written by someone who hasn’t got a clue how things really operate at Sky City.
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April 17, 2012 8:26pm
big bruv

Luc

He is fine mate, he is not an apologist for terrorists and he has contributed more to this Nation than most.
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April 17, 2012 8:29pm
philu

btw..there is a very funny comedy on prime @ 9.40..

it’s called ‘outnumbered’..

..and has good writers/a good script..

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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April 17, 2012 8:29pm
Steve

The job offers are there Phool. You can and should get a job.

But you are a lazy, useless scumbag; with a brain that has separation anxiety with the remaining two cells.
Shame on you areswipe
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April 17, 2012 8:32pm
wat dabney

“it’s about human wights, isn’t it.”

The Greens don’t give a toss about human rights, so I doubt that was their motive. But in fact human rights is the correct answer.
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April 17, 2012 8:37pm
Luc Hansen

BB

You have lost me there.

I don’t apologise for any terrorism. Not even Israel’s.

In my opinion, the worst thing DG did in his life was to return to NZ. His contribution to our nation has been overwhelmingly negative.
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April 17, 2012 8:49pm
Leaping Jimmy

Steve, PhilU was recently interviewed on Jim Mora’s show, and he certainly did not present as a dropkick.

Luc the issue is not whether phil is a dropkick the issue is whether he contributes his bit to society according to the best of his ability whether that bit be large or small but the critical thing is whether he tries to genuinely and does his best regardless of what the actual results are.

The consensus from years of observation here is that phil is very capable but contributes little which if he were handicapped would be fine but he’s not, even taking into account his years of addiction. The consensus here is that phil not only takes advantage of the system for no reason, he is proud of the fact he is getting away with doing that and he is arrogant about that.

So Luc while some of us here love fellow humans to bits, phil it would appear is one of those people who is the lowest of the low. He’s a person who would go up to a street person and steal their blanket or their meagre possessions from under them, he would dishonestly take a room from a young mother and her child in the middle of winter if she and he were competing for one, etc etc etc.

This is phil.

Hard to like, isn’t he.

That’s why we act like we do. Because there is no excuse for him to act as he does, that we can see. So if there is a reason, then pray tell. Otherwise, get out of the way because what the fuck is wrong with holding a parasite like phil to account, and he is a parasite, from everything he’s ever said. And if he’s not a parasite, then he needs to give us the real information he’s been holding back which makes him behave as he does. And will he do that? Well, will you, phil?
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April 17, 2012 8:49pm
Steve

Hear hear Jimmy
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April 17, 2012 8:54pm
Luc Hansen

reid

Your posts are as irritating as Phil”s and make even less sense.
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April 17, 2012 8:55pm
Steve

*******
those are rasberries Luc
Stick them where the global warming sun don’t shine
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April 17, 2012 8:59pm
philu

“..he would dishonestly take a room from a young mother and her child in the middle of winter ..”

whoar..!..i never realised i was that bad..

..(have you penned bodice-rippers..?..if not you show a certain talent fo that..you could call the little boy ‘jimmy’..eh..?..)

..thanks for the heads-up there..little jimmy..

..do you get a special strawman-award for that one..?

..you should..eh..?

it’s up there with (hic!) garretts’ claim from the other day…

..that i had killed my wife/the mother of my child….’by sticking a needle in her too far’..(!)

..you are as classy as each other…eh..?

..have you met yet..?..you and ‘hic!’..?

do you like to drink..?..every night..?

..hic! does..

..you could be his drunk-buddy..eh..?

..you could make up stories about me..

..sit and slur at each other..

..and then you could call the dob-in-line..

..that’s what he does..most nights…

..sip/slur/dob is how he rolls…

..pathetic really..when you think about it..

…but you and he..little jimmy..

..you have so much in common.

..eh..?

..you both hate me for starters..

..you do already have that common ground..eh?

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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April 17, 2012 9:08pm
Griff

Philu
Keeps you guys amused ” untold ”
Most of you see a certain consistency if the subjects that interest him.
He has an angle of approach to the world that is at odds to many here, yet makes some of the sheep think once and awhile 🙂
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April 17, 2012 9:09pm
wat dabney

New treatment for prostate cancer gives ‘perfect results’ for nine in ten men

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9206425/New-treatment-for-prostate-cancer-gives-perfect-results-for-nine-in-ten-men-research.html
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April 17, 2012 9:11pm
Leaping Jimmy

..you both hate me for starters..

I don’t hate anyone phil, it takes energy and its pointless. I just hold you in complete and utter contempt, for reasons I’ve already explained.

If you’d like me not to hold you in contempt, then start pulling your weight in society and stop being arrogant and proud of the fact that you get away with bludging off others. That’s all you have to do.

I don’t care if you do or you don’t, BTW, but if you wish me to change my view of you, then that’s what you need to do.

Most people don’t even need to be told not to behave like a bludging arrogant arsehole. Most people already know it as a matter of course, even those without education. What’s appalling is that you have education. So you don’t even have the angry thicko excuse that violent stupid twenty-something gang-bangers have who also, many of them, behave like you, for awhile. Until they grow up.

What’s appalling is, you have grown up. You are educated. You do have choices. And yet, you do nothing whatsoever, zero, to avail yourself of them. You’re quite happy for me and the other workers in this country to pay for you, for the rest of your miserable life, despite the plethora of alternative choices available to you were you simply to lift a finger. But you won’t.

That’s why you are contemptible phil, and why you always will be, to me. Talk to the hand, I’m not interested in conversing with you further.
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April 17, 2012 9:25pm
Griff

Who are you leaping jimmy to cast stones?
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April 17, 2012 9:34pm
philu

fuck..!..you’d be really boring in person…eh..?

do you really speak like that/as you write..?

..and a rather inflated sense of self-worth is clearly evident..

..it’s what empowers you to judge..eh..?

..are you a god-botherer/sky-pilot-fan … by any chance..?

..you do show/display many of the signs of that species..

..eh..?

(esp. that right to ‘judge others’ thang again..that you have going on..eh..?..)

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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April 17, 2012 9:36pm
Luc Hansen

oh dear, reid is getting excited again.

My friend, if you are an example of our education system at its best, we’re fucked! 🙂
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April 17, 2012 9:41pm
philu

“..I’m not interested in conversing with you further…”

you said that earlier..

..why not do as you say you will ..and just shut the fuck up..eh..?

..ya fucken moaning-millie..

..go talk to yr friend in the sky..

..y’know..!..the one that is keeping a ledger of yr life..

..and knows everything you do/say..eh..?

..you are such a sad/scared little man..

..aren’t you.. little jimmy reid..?

..phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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April 17, 2012 9:42pm
EverlastingFire

PhilU – What will you do when your ‘kid’ is too old you can no longer claim the dpb..eh..? Claim sickness benefit for being retarded or sit on the dole..eh..? Waiting for that super, can’t be far off..eh..?
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April 17, 2012 10:16pm
Luc Hansen

Jeez EF

Do you ever (pun intended) say anything remotely interesting?
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April 17, 2012 10:35pm
cha

Oh dear lordy, The Muslims Are Coming!
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April 17, 2012 10:41pm
bereal

Just checking before bed to see if either mikenmild or his mate SGA were up to
answer even one straight question.

Seems neither of them were up for it.

Now there is a huge suprise.

i can understand SGA, he confessed he lacked the intellect to understand the issue and
i guess his Mummy had already gone to bed and couldn’t explain it to him.

but mikenmild…well, just a bunch of woffle and PC bullshit hot air as usual.

G’nite all.
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April 17, 2012 10:55pm
Luc Hansen

Bereal

I answered your question.

The US, for starters. Five million Muslims, and a much, much lower offending rate than the rest.

I’ll take Muslims as neighbors anyway over Tea Party bigots like your good self.

Nitey nite…
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April 17, 2012 11:03pm
Viking2

Secret joyride exposed
By Amelia Wade
5:30 AM Wednesday Apr 18, 2012

A car impounded for alleged boy-racing was tracked half an hour later by a GPS system on a joyride, reaching speeds of 100km/h in a 50km/h zone.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10799668

seems that noone can be trusted and the police aid and abet the criminals.
would be funny if it wasn’t true.
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April 18, 2012 7:30am
Lee01

Mike claims:

“I’ll answer them – they’ve been answered often before…
Immigration is a largely unstoppable force and generally very positive. Western European countries have benefited hugely from immigration, including Muslims.”

Can you provide some facts to back up this factless assertion?
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