General Debate 19 March 2012

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East Wellington Superhero

The rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain.

In Auckland now, it just falls everywhere. Goodbye summer. We never really had a chance.
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March 19, 2012 8:05am
East Wellington Superhero

I see Brian Edwards is having a bit of a sooky sook. Boo-hoo. Get a life.
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March 19, 2012 8:07am
Pete George

An interesting view of the New Zealand political spectrum:

The paranoid style in left-wing New Zealand politics

…Key can talk about being ‘non ideological’, ‘whatever works’, etc – but all of his policies are standard, right-wing ideology (none of which show any signs of working, as yet)…

…Just to set down my own views on positioning yet again: Labour doesn’t need to move to the center, because Labour is the center…

I guess political leanings are relative to the leaning of the view, but I suspect there will be a few in Labour’s union faction in particular that wouldn’t claim to be ‘centre’.

And more than a few here who would scoff at National’s supposed degree of rightness.
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March 19, 2012 8:12am
Scott Chris

Obama Tries Again To End Oil Subsidies

Industry officials and many Republicans in Congress have argued that cutting the tax breaks would lead to higher petrol prices, raising costs on oil companies and affecting their investments in exploration and production.

So much for Republicans believing in a free market. Mind you, the vote didn’t pass when Democrats held the majority either. Seems everyone is in the lobbyists pocket.
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March 19, 2012 8:26am
hmmokrightitis

Pete, Key’s ideaology is as right wing as my nana. And she had Mickey Savage (The real one, not the broken arsed sorry excuse for a lawyer) staring down from her mantlepiece. For eg, middle class welfare. Yes, he would cop a slaying from the vast majority of NZ’ers who feel entitled to it, but grow a pair. We cant afford it. Stop reprocessing our taxes, tax us less, FFS, stop the redistribution.

The idealogical left will seek to claim the hallowed “middle ground”, becuase they know to own it is to hold power. They are as middle ground as my left nut. And thats left.
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March 19, 2012 8:34am
Manolo

Key is not a right winger at all. In the colour spectrum he’s as pink as a rose, well to the side of red.
Proof of the decline and transformation of the once proud National Party, nowadays home of appeasers, warmists and spineless yes-men.
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March 19, 2012 8:46am
tom hunter

It would be good if a debate could be had about “energy subsidies”, especially those ones that try to prop up hopeless alternative energy companies. People might even find out what was defined as an “energy subsidy” and who exactly is affected: here’s a hint: it’s not Exxon Mobil and the other biggies, let alone the state oil outfits that own something like 93% of global oil reserves).

But before that debate happens we would have to have people who don’t rely on brain-dead local NZ rags who simply repeat the editorial headline soundbites of basic US election-year wedge politics played by a Presidential candidate.
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March 19, 2012 8:57am
hj

Herman Daly:
“There are two dogmas that neoclassical economists must never publicly doubt lest they be defrocked by their professional priesthood: first, that growth in GDP is always good and is the solution to most problems; second, that free international trade is mutually beneficial thanks to the growth-promoting principle of comparative advantage. These two cracked pillars “support” nearly all the policy advice given by mainstream economists to governments.

Even such a clear thinker as Paul Krugman never allows his usually admirable New York Times column to question these most sacred of all tenets. And yet in less than 1,000 words the two dogmas can easily be shown to be wrong by just looking at observable facts and the first principles of classical economics. Pause, and calmly consider the following:
http://steadystate.org/growth-and-free-trade-brain-dead-dogmas-still-kicking-hard/
http://dalynews.org/learn/blog/
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March 19, 2012 9:01am
kowtow

Campaign against hydrolic fracturing ?

Last Sunday TV1 did a piece on it, yesterday it was TV3’s turn followed up with an interview of Gareth Hughes this morning.

Don’t they want NZ to be a wealthy country?
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March 19, 2012 9:02am
hj

Sociological explanations for climate change denial
http://www.energybulletin.net/stories/2012-03-17/sociological-explanations-climate-change-denial
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March 19, 2012 9:08am
rouppe

It seems the spoils of war are going to the Chinese and the Indians.

Easy solution. Pull out overnight. Then all the angry men will need a new enemy on which to direct their anger… They don’t care who
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March 19, 2012 9:10am
Paulus

A huge problem appears to have occurred in London on the leadup to the Olympic Games.

De Coubertin (a Frenchman) in the Charter said that the Official Languages of the Games shall be English and French.
Now the Frencies are up in arms that the street signs etc and all Olympic publications are not yet printed in French, and they should be – so.

Understand that the have been told to get stuffed. Its 960 years since Britain was invaded – so there.
Vive La France.
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March 19, 2012 9:10am
nasska

Who can personally remember a National government that didn’t include at least a shade of pink around the edges? For all the moaning & bitching on this & other forums, if National returned to its policies of circa 1920 we would be guaranteed Labour/Green/Hone’s Haters governments for the rest of time or at least until bankruptcy.

The electorate has moved to the left. Those who rubbish JK for competing for the centre ground ignore the fact that such high ideals would doom the political right to perpetual opposition.

Better pragmatic National policies than embittered socialists headed by an endless line up of clones of Dear Leader.
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March 19, 2012 9:11am
iMP

Not allowed to salmon farm, not allowed to wind farm, not allowed to accept foreign millions to develop rundown empty dairy farms, not allowed to mine. What is wrong with us? Are we allergic to change? Note to self, enrol in local CPIT basket weaving course…
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March 19, 2012 9:14am
Keeping Stock

@ EWS – I take a different view over Edwards’ spat with Labour. He is a former Labour candidate, a long-time provider of services to the party, and a personal friend of Helen Clark. His departure from Labour would be a blow to the party, and to Shearer’s leadership in particular, as it would merely reopen all the wounds that supposedly healed in December.

http://keepingstock.blogspot.co.nz/2012/03/shearers-first-casualty.html
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March 19, 2012 9:28am
Pete George

John Armstrong makes an interesting comparison in Stop being ‘Mr Wiffly-Woffly’

Soon New Zealanders must choose between an action man with little vision and a vision man with little action. Let’s hope both can up their game in the next few months.

Others are talking up the similarities between the two. The pragmatic twins? Or is pragmatism just talk?
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March 19, 2012 9:31am
Pete George

@Keeping Stock – Edwards leaving might be a blow to old Labour, there’s still a few clinging to old idealistic ideologies like him.

But I think the political world is evolving into the age of pragmatists. This may well have been started by Lange/Douglas, practiced across the centre by Peter Dunne for some time, touched on by Clarke/Cullen (until they swung to buy votes), taken to a new level by John Key and now embraced (in words anyway) in his own way by David Shearer.

Old lefties seem unable to adapt to the 21st century, so they choose to jump ship instead.
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March 19, 2012 9:55am
tom hunter

@Keeping Stock

Interesting and I shall read the whole Edwards piece. But here’s the thing that struck me your comment that …

[Edwards was] a close personal friend, advisor and biographer of Helen Clark

… and his comments in the section you quoted:

Tony Blair’s ‘third way’, a significant influence on the Fifth Labour Government, was really just a watered down version of Douglas’s ‘trickle-down’ economics. The ‘third way’ was, by definition, a ‘middle-way’, neither one thing nor the other and ill-suited to political idealism of any stripe – a Clayton’s political philosophy.

Well who were these people who allowed this to happen? Why none other than Helen Clark (and Michael Cullen and Heather Simpson). Is Edwards only awake to this now? What else – aside from blind, partisan loyalty and perhaps personal loyalty to Clark – could have kept him from this revelation that has now only come with the ascension of Shearer?

Frankly it seems incoherent and the heart of that incoherence is the stubborn refusal of ‘socialists’ like Edwards to accept that the practical implementations of social democracy in the West are increasingly failing in the 21st century. He’s hardly the only one of course.
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March 19, 2012 9:58am
kowtow

rouppe

Once NATO pulls out the place will go to shit again and Pakistan will be back in charge ( of the Pushtun regions anyway).That means Chinese investment should be safe, Indian ,not so much.
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March 19, 2012 10:13am
Chuck Bird

It is good to see the Herald has picked up this issue. It will be interesting to see the comments in the Herald.

Editorial: Law needs to catch up with HIV ruling
5:30 AM Monday Mar 19, 2012

The law is generous to people with HIV who do not tell a sexual partner
they have the virus. They have no obligation to inform their partner as
long as they practise “safe sex”. It is only if they do not protect the
unwitting partner to that extent that their failure to disclose their
condition becomes a criminal offence, though not as serious an offence
as it really is. Thanks to a court ruling last week, the offence will
now be regarded more seriously – but only for the purposes of accident
compensation.

Fro rest of article

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10793001
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March 19, 2012 10:18am
Scott Chris

It would be good if a debate could be had about “energy subsidies”

Well the simple answer is that there is a moral imperative to incentivise the use of sustainable energy fuels as opposed to the moral imperative to disincentivise the use of fossil fuels.

But on the face of it, the Republican argument that a removal of the subsidies will lead to higher oil prices is facile nonsense. Like milk, the price of oil is set by international demand and speculation so any subsidy an American oil company receives goes straight into their pockets.
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March 19, 2012 10:50am
Letterman

Bankrupt builder got more than he bargained for when he ripped off a Blogger:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/digital-living/6593847/The-battle-to-scrub-online-smears

Key quote:

For one Auckland blogger that’s exactly the point. He wants the world to know everything there is to know about a man who owes him money over a failed building project.

Google the man’s name and the first seven results lead you to the blog. In fact it’s named after him. Addresses, names, number plates, photos, past criminal convictions, names of criminals he’s involved with that have name suppression, current employers – it’s all there. The blogger, whom the Star-Times has decided not to name, said he could provide evidence for all of the claims he’s made, including ones involving Child Youth and Family. He said “truth and honest opinion are absolute defences” against defamation.
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March 19, 2012 12:38pm
Letterman

The Blogger? Me.

http://www.grantnormanking.com

The reason? here:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10778843
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March 19, 2012 12:40pm
Letterman

And if that wasn’t enough, Grant King is a convicted sex offender to boot:

http://www.safenz.org.nz/sxdb/kinggrant.htm
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March 19, 2012 12:48pm
Fletch

Obama signed an executive order yesterday which some say is “totalitarian” and nationalizes everything.
Here’s what Pamela Geller said about it –

It calls for a draft, but not just a draft. A civilian draft, of “persons of outstanding experience or ability” without compensation. If they think they need you, they can compel you to work for the government for nothing.

They can, under this order, restrict civilian travel by any mode, including (probably) foot travel. They can ration food. They can restrict water usage, even from private wells. They can ration any and all drugs, including OTC and vitamins. They can collectivize farms. They can take over all energy production, including home solar units.
It also allows for drafting civilians. If they have need of your skills, they can compel you to work for no compensation.

All this not in a time of war, but in time of “National Emergency” (several EO national emergency states already in place) or even in Peacetime.

http://bit.ly/w8hylS

The original document is on the whitehouse site here – http://1.usa.gov/yWRCcF

I’m not too sure how to interpret it myself (not being the lawyerly type), so I’m not sure if people are just getting too excited by it. If it is what they so though, Obama is doing the power grab in a big way. One of the commentators at Atlas says –

Authorization for the Obamacare monstrosity to takeover the healthcare system completely.. Now the Supremes will be forced to decide that Obamacare is Constitutional because Obama has made HHS essential to the defense of the nation.

There is precedent for this sort of Commerce Clause hammering of the Constitution..

Wickard v. Filburn 1942

That decision was made during war at a time when no Justice would want to be seen as interfering with America’s ability to wage Total War..

Obama has just made Obamacare and it’s HHS ‘necessary’ for the defense of the nation.
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March 19, 2012 1:35pm
Fletch

So yeh, the maker of the KONY 2012 viral video apparently has been hospitalized after being seen running around in the streets naked and masturbating.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/kony-filmmaker-naked-masturbating-in-street-20120317-1vbv8.html

Not too sure what to say about that….
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March 19, 2012 1:47pm
cha

# Fletch

BoingBoing details the people behind the Kony video and the invisible children ~~scam~~ charity.

http://boingboing.net/tag/invisible-children
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March 19, 2012 2:18pm
Pete George

Leterman – sounds fair enough if yuo stick to facts, you may not get your money back but you might help others avoid getting ripped off by the same guy.
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March 19, 2012 2:36pm
Sonny Blount

All of the following companies have received some of $30 billion dollars given to Green start ups given out by Obamas enegy secretary Stephen Chu:

Bankrupt:

Beacon Power
Evergreen Solar
SpectraWatt
Eastern Energy
Solyndra

Massive layoffs:
National Renewable Energy Laboratory
Fisker Automotive
Abound Energy

12 further companies which received a total of $6.5 billion from the Department of Energy face severe financial issues.
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March 19, 2012 2:37pm
scanner

Modified to suit NZ but true none the less –

Give a man a fish and he eats for a day… Give a man a WINZ cheque, food stamps, free housing, free tuition, free medical services, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, some Air Jordan’s and promise him that anybody who works will be taxed up-the-yazoo to pay for it all…and he’ll vote Labour for a lifetime.
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March 19, 2012 2:50pm
bereal

Is there anyone left in society that truly believes that a person who is aware
that they are HIV positive does not have an obligation to inform their sexual partner beforehand ?

Regardless of if it’s intended to be protected or otherwise sex
and allow the partner to make the call.

The only group who seem to see that that answer to that question is not obvious are homosexuals.

How sick is that ?

Is there an element of, “well i got it, it’s your fault if you got it too, why didn’t you ask ?”
You gotta love these homos.
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March 19, 2012 4:06pm
bereal

Speaking of homosexuals.

Don’t get me wrong. Some of my best friends are homos, but.

I remember some years ago when Daryl Gates, ex police chief of Los Angeles was visiting NZ and was questioned on the subject.

He stated, “There are three things I can tell you about male homosexuals.

The most promiscuous animal on earth is the male homosexual.
The male homosexual has up to a thousand contacts a year.
And thirdly, there is an element amongst male homosexuals who derive their their ultimate gratification
from corrupting a youth.

Any homos like to argue with that ?
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March 19, 2012 4:24pm
wreck1080

Our regional council just announced a 12.5% rates increase, followed by 2 years of 8.5% increases.

This calculates to a 32% increase in just 3 years.

You think I’m joking, here is the news….

http://sunlive.co.nz/news/23205-council-proposes-rates-rise.html

Thieves, and bloody thieves.
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March 19, 2012 4:29pm
barry

well wreck1080 – either give them a dose of 1080 or vote the idiots out.
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March 19, 2012 4:50pm
dc

Housing boom panto: “Oh no it isn’t” (English: Another housing boom unlikely). “Oh yes it is” (PM predicts housing boom). Funny, but also sad in that their housing policy is so neglected that the PM doesn’t pay any attention to his finance minister’s statements about it.
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March 19, 2012 4:56pm
Pauleastbay

iMP (503) Says:

March 19th, 2012 at 9:14 am
Not allowed to salmon farm, not allowed to wind farm, not allowed to accept foreign millions to develop rundown empty dairy farms, not allowed to mine. What is wrong with us?

I belive we have allowed anyone who has any sort of positive view to be yelled down by a miniscule minority of 12 who have the media reporting every unchecked fact that is spouted.

Everyday I am amazed and astounded because I meet people who quote “facts” at me because itt was on the “news” and therefore a fact, when a quick flick around blogs of all hues shows that what is served up at 6.00 pm is utter crap.

Bread and circus’s was a sophisticated political ploy along side what is spawned by our television as news.
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March 19, 2012 5:49pm
bereal

Where are the homos ?

Did you see @ 4’06 and 4.24

Have i got it wrong ?

Surely there is at least one homo who can stand up for herself.
Where is she ?
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March 19, 2012 6:56pm
David Garrett

bereal, you are a very naughty boy…
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March 19, 2012 7:00pm
bereal

All bullshiting aside.

Is there any right thinking New Zealander who would hold that it is OK not to tell your sex partner
that you are HIV positive ?

Seems like the only argument from the other side comes from the homo brigade.

And even these sickko homos are not prepared to try to justify their there sick position.

Otherwise…..

What is the justification for not telling your sexual partner that you are a sick puppy that is
already HIV positive ?

If there is no problem, why is it a problem to declare……………?
C’mon u homos.
Justify your position……………
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March 19, 2012 7:19pm
David Garrett

Well, I am most definitely not “a homo” bereal, but I am prepared to support you…there can be absolutely no justification for not telling your partner you have HIV…

I remember when AIDS first surfaced in the early 80’s..back when it was literally a death sentence, the only question was how long you were on death row…the AIDS foundation fought (successfully) tooth and nail to NOT have HIV made a notifiable disease…which completely defies logic…if a doctor is consulted by a person with TB the doctor is obliged to report than person to the authoraties, and if necessary the person will be compulsorily treated because of the risk to society…but there is no such obligation on the doctor who is consulted by an HIV positive person, even if he/she is – say – a prostitute, and readily admits to having unprotected sex with clients….I see absolutely no logic in that…
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March 19, 2012 7:49pm
nasska

Doug meets Bill at the bar for their usual after work
drink. Bill is sitting there looking somewhat depressed.
Doug asks, “What’s wrong pal?”

Bill replies, “Well, I finally succeeded in talking my
girlfriend in to a threesome.”

“Wow, lucky you. But why the long face?” Doug
remarks.

Bill sighs and says, “Yeah, well, as the threesome
entered into its second hour of hot and heavy action,
it dawned on me that I really should have specified
that I wanted to be one of the three.”
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March 19, 2012 8:02pm
Griff

Oil Change instructions for Women:

1) Pull up to Jiffy Lube when the mileage reaches 3000 miles since the last oil change.. 2) Drink a cup of coffee 3) 15 minutes later, write a check and leave with a properly maintained vehicle.

Money spent: Oil Change: $20.00 Coffee: $1.00 Total: $21.00

Oil Change instructions for Men :

1) Wait until Saturday, drive to auto parts store and buy a case of oil, filter, kitty litter, hand cleaner and a scented tree, write a check for $50.00. 2) Stop by 7/11 and buy a case of beer, write a check for $20, drive home. 3) Open a beer and drink it. 4) Jack car up. Spend 30 minutes looking for jack stands. 5) Find jack stands under kid’s pedal car. 6) In frustration, open another beer and drink it. 7) Place drain pan under engine. 8) Look for 9/16 box end wrench. 9) Give up and use crescent wrench. 10) Unscrew drain plug. 11) Drop drain plug in pan of hot oil: splash hot oil on you in process. Cuss.. 12) Crawl out from under car to wipe hot oil off of face and arms.Throw kitty litter on spilled oil. 13) Have another beer while watching oil drain. 14) Spend 30 minutes looking for oil filter wrench. 15) Give up; crawl under car and hammer a screwdriver through oil filter and twist off. 16) Crawl out from under car with dripping oil filter splashing oil everywhere from holes. Cleverly hide old oil filter among trash in trash can to avoid environmental penalties. Drink a beer. 17) Install new oil filter making sure to apply a thin coat of oil to gasket surface. 18) Dump first quart of fresh oil into engine. 19) Remember drain plug from step 11. 20) Hurry to find drain plug in drain pan. 21) Drink beer. 22) Discover that first quart of fresh oil is now on the floor. Throw kitty litter on oil spill. 23) Get drain plug back in with only a minor spill. Drink beer. 24) Crawl under car getting kitty litter into eyes. Wipe eyes with oily rag used to clean drain plug. Slip with stupid crescent wrench tightening drain plug and bang knuckles on frame removing any excess skin between knuckles and frame. 25) Begin cussing fit. 26) Throw stupid crescent wrench. 27) Cuss for additional 5 minutes because wrench hit bowling trophy. 28) Beer. 29) Clean up hands and bandage as required to stop blood flow. 30) Beer. 31) Dump in five fresh quarts of oil. 32) Beer. 33) Lower car from jack stands.. 34) Move car back to apply more kitty litter to fresh oil spilled during any missed steps. 35) Beer. 36) Test drive car. 37) Get pulled over: arrested for driving under the influence. 38) Car gets impounded. 39) Call loving wife, make bail. 40) 12 hours later, get car from impound yard.

Money spent: Parts: $50.00 DUI: $2500.00 Impound fee: $75.00 Bail: $1500.00 Beer: $20.00 Total: $4,145.00 But you know the job was done right!
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March 19, 2012 8:29pm
nasska

Two old men are sat on a bench at the park. An attractive, young, fit girl runs past in a sports bra and a tiny pair of shorts. One of the men smiles and this brings the girl over.

“Why are you staring at me and grinning, you pervert?” she says.

The old man sweetly replies “My dear I’m not smiling at you, I’m smiling at the thought that no matter how bad the world gets, there will always be young, pretty girls in the summer to cheer up a lonely old man”

The girl replies “awwwww you sweet old man” leans in and gives him a kiss on the cheek and jogs on.

The old man turns to his friend and says “2 – nil motherfucker, your turn”.
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March 19, 2012 8:47pm
Griff

Robbers entered a woman’s house, forcefully robbed her of expensive Jewels in her presence and ran away.

Friends gathered at her home and started expressing sympathies,
“Well thank God they did not rob you of your feminine dignity.”

The woman yelled angrily, “You idiots what do you think how I got all those jewels? By selling my feminine dignity.”
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March 19, 2012 8:51pm
Chuck Bird

eszett, must be cruising at a public bog.

What really pisses me off is that the AIDS foundation gets so much government funding to put out misinformation. The first priority should be to reduce the incidence of HIV in NZ.

If that was a priority what did they lobby so hard opposing the screening migrants for HIV? The only reason I can think of for them taking that position was so the the incidence of heterosexual HIV would increase so the could say more often HIV is not just a gay disease.

Does anyone think the AIDS Foundation should continue to get government funding?
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March 19, 2012 8:53pm
nasska

Griff

You mentioned last night that your broadband connection was less than perfect because of rain. Is it a wireless feed & if so how badly does wind/rain affect it?

Our local copper wiring is rotten & an optimist would describe my connection as unstable. I may have a chance to go wireless but it seems pointless if it doesn’t offer an improvement.
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March 19, 2012 8:54pm
Griff

I am on vodaphone mobile broad band. Its $50 for 2G and $10 for another 2G at present
I am out in the boondocks,langs beach, My mobile broadband is marginal at the best of times out here I sometimes don’t get a phone signal due to atmospherics. Even in town the bandwidth is to small it stops or slows right down at 8- 9 am as people get to work and again from 3:30 -6pm as students etc get home
Apparently telecom is better
I also use a old cell phone rather than a vodem as the reception is more reliable
I think you are talking of a different system than mobile broadband .
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I only use it cause i have not figured out how to get copper wire to a swing mooring yet. 🙂
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March 19, 2012 9:19pm
David Garrett

Chuck: That’s a pretty heavy accusation…but it has to be said that it would suit their position very well if there were more hetero cases…And NO..they shouldnt get government funding…SST doesnt…
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March 19, 2012 9:20pm
Griff

An IT services company had a policy of hiring ONLY MARRIED men.

Concerned about this, a local Woman’s Liberation Front Leader called on the CEO. She asked, “Why is it you limit your employees to married men? Do you consider us women are Weak, Dumb, Tantrum throwers or Bossy?”

“Not at all, Ma’am,” the CEO replied. “It is ONLY because our policy is to hire staff :-
-Who are used to obeying orders without questioning,
-Who are accustomed to being bossed over,
-Know how to keep quiet
-Put up with anything when I yell at them.

Men have these qualities so our policy is “GENTLEMEN ONLY LADIES FORBIDDEN”
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March 19, 2012 9:27pm
nasska

Griff

….”I only use it cause i have not figured out how to get copper wire to a swing mooring yet.”…..

Difficult…yes, but much easier than to getting Telecom to replace or repair a rotten cable. I should have really fast ADSL as although I live in the sticks I’m only about 800 metres from a ‘green cabinet’. Fat hope……the copper connection from there to the house is stuffed.

Ring faults & they swear on their mothers’ graves that the line is in perfect order. Mind you this comes from people for whom Punjabi is their first language & I suspect that they are paid a bonus to frustrate any complaint that may cause Telecom to spend more than $25 per district per year on maintenance.

If it isn’t a fault then my neighbours further up the valley must be HD porn addicts.
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March 19, 2012 9:43pm
bereal

Where are the bum bandits ?
c’mon girls.

Why is it OK to not tell the bloke you are bumming that you are HIV positive ?
That is a really good joke eh !

Oh, it’s because he is asking for it ? (begging for it )

When it cums down to it , these bum bandits can’t get it up, right ?

OK poofters, when you are taking up the chook, you would rather not know, right ?

There must be one bum bandit or one of their mates prepared to argue why we need to keep it secret.

Can even one poofter stand up ?
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March 19, 2012 9:50pm
Griff

The local DOC warden in a small town in northland had arrested Rangi for killing and eating a wheka. The man went before a judge to plead his case. After pleading guilty, but with an explanation, the judge asked him why he did it.

“I was just trying to feed my hungry family,” Rangi told the judge, “and I’ve never done anything like that before.”

The judge, being a family man himself, had a soft heart and agreed to let Rangi go free, since he was only trying to feed his starving family and it was his first and only offense.

“Before you go, though, I want to ask you a question,” the judge quipped, “What does Egret taste like?”

“Well your Honor,”Rangi told him, “Its not as tender as Kiwi but its has more meat than black robin
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nasska
Ive had a similar experience with a power company The ripple controller went on the power meter. It was four visits plus a total rewire of the hot water cylinder before they had to admit it was their fault not ours As I had told them right from the start. Do you have any sprear ark plans the rain is getting a little persistent up here
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March 19, 2012 9:58pm
bereal

What about you, Scott Chris ?
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March 19, 2012 10:02pm
bereal

Even Viking2 is quiet on this one ,
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March 19, 2012 10:03pm
bereal

Maybe FE Smith could give us some insight into the legality of bumming sumone without telling them you are HIV positive.
This is one subject that some hands on experience from FES would be appreciated.
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March 19, 2012 10:07pm
lilman

Can tell you where the poofters are!!!!!!!!!!!!
They are still at training,God they Warriors played like women on the last day of their period.
Also the gaul of those fucken tv commentators saying each player was amazing and talented and staunch,the only thing they forgot to say was they were USELESS.
Owned for 80 minutes.
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March 19, 2012 10:09pm
nasska

Griff

No. I sold the last set of I had in the interests of frugality (plus the fact that I reside 270metres ASL). Mind you its getting a bit damp down this way too. It’s from the SE though so it will be cold but relatively light rainfall.

What has me concerned although is the way the soil temperature is dropping like a stone. Great summer but an early winter is going to make the feed situation tighter sooner.
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March 19, 2012 10:09pm
lilman

Warriors ,bullshit outfit.
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March 19, 2012 10:26pm
bereal

lilman
course you are right but.
Didn’t Manu look cool with all his new hair ?

He didn’t look like a faggot at all.

Well, not much of a faggot really.

Yeah. he looked like a faggot.
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March 19, 2012 10:34pm
lilman

Manu needs a trip to the dentist and a hair cut.
He was a fag alright.
But the commentators were full of it,sickophants ,
the things you see when you dont have a gun,
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March 19, 2012 11:02pm
Viking2

Well you the country is fucked up when this happens.
Planes diverted from Auckland to WWWWWWWWWWellington because of the wind.

Planes diverted due to wind

Monday, 19, Mar, 2012 5:01PM

Two planes have been diverted away from Auckland due to crosswinds.

A spokesman from Auckland Airport says one plane was diverted to Wellington, but it’s not know where the second one went to.

He says they’re both Air New Zealand flights and it was the airline’s call to divert them.
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March 19, 2012 11:06pm
Viking2

wreck1080 (2,084) Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 4:29 pm

Our regional council just announced a 12.5% rates increase, followed by 2 years of 8.5% increases.

This calculates to a 32% increase in just 3 years.

You think I’m joking, here is the news….

http://sunlive.co.nz/news/23205-council-proposes-rates-rise.html

Thieves, and bloody thieves.

That’s on top of big increases already. 7-8 years ago the EBOP never charged us a bloody cent on our rates. And all the increase despite the cash that they get from POTga.
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March 19, 2012 11:14pm
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Chuck Bird (2,043) Says:
March 19th, 2012 at 8:53 pm

eszett, must be cruising at a public bog.

You seem to know alot about these things, Chucky.
Maybe you should just give in to your secret desire one day and go have some fun there.
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