General Debate 20 February 2012

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Put it away

Just to annoy people who think it means something…
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February 20, 2012 8:19am
immigant

GAHHHHH!!!!
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February 20, 2012 8:26am
Yvette

TV3 political poll
And popularity for Prime Minister Key is ‘waning’, ‘the lowest rating for him ever’ but do they actually give a previous figure so we can judge for ourselves? No.
So is he down 10%, 5%, there isn’t a clue. Just that they tell you ‘it is a bad start to the year’.

Similarly, Shearer debuts well, but no actual comparison by saying how much more he is on, than what Goff was.

Why not show the actual figures, that is what a poll is about.
That Key suffers from backfiring asset sales policy and trying to sell New Zealand farms to the Chinese would appear to be just assumptions too.
Most of yesterday’s comments about television news, TV3 in particular, seemed to rate it as merde – last evening’s poll presentation : QED.
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February 20, 2012 8:49am
Pete George

Another delusion?

The Green Party is confident its increased vote is stable and not the result of Labour’s unpopularity.

Co-leader Metiria Turei said the party would be looking to grow its support base at the 2014 election and did not expect to lose ground to other left-wing parties.

“We are not the benefactors of Labour or National voters shifting to the Greens. We are our own political force that generates support in our own right.”

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/6446407/Increased-vote-stable-Greens

No support level in politics is stable, neither is it unrelated to the support of other parties. Grens have been there too long to excuse this as naive. One sure way to prove that is to keep displaying smug arrogance and to believe you have earned and deserve all the support you get.
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February 20, 2012 9:08am
RightNow

Stephen Fry comments on the state of NZ’s broadband:
“Rise up, Kiwis and demand better? You wouldn’t allow crap roads with pot holes and single file…”

ROFL – he clearly hasn’t driven on our roads much.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/technology/news/article.cfm?c_id=5&objectid=10786729
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February 20, 2012 10:15am
Viking2

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10786647
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February 20, 2012 10:20am
Manolo

The UK plumbing new depths: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2103314/Government-spy-programme-monitor-phone-text-email.html
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February 20, 2012 10:35am
Manolo

Excellent article courtesy of Lindsay Mitchell: http://lindsaymitchell.blogspot.co.nz/2012/02/doomed-to-build-more-prisons.html
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February 20, 2012 10:37am
Paulus

Vote Labour get Greens in 2014.
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February 20, 2012 11:22am
grumpyoldhori

Bloody hell, a dumb pakeha gets a slap on the risk for trying to take 663KG of made up ANFO explosive on a passenger ferry which is bloody dangerous.
His dumb lawyer spouts off that there was little danger, where the fuck do these lawyers get their information ?

Jesus wept, dumb cow spouts that no detonators were with the cargo.
Yep, no load of Ammonium Nitrate has ever exploded without using a detonator, tui

http://www.utexas.edu/utpress/excerpts/exstetex.html
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February 20, 2012 12:21pm
Griff

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/6448306/Iwi-claims-Crafar-farm

The controversial Crafar farms sale took another twist today when a group of local iwi moved on to a Benneydale farm and called for their ”ancestral land” to be returned.

WTF
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February 20, 2012 12:47pm
minto57

Fran Wild now thinks she is in parliament taking patsy questions and avoiding answers.
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February 20, 2012 1:03pm
Manolo

How can a savage like this be granted bail? http://www.nzherald.co.nz/crime/news/article.cfm?c_id=30&objectid=10786745
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February 20, 2012 1:28pm
Rat

DPF commented on the Broadband debacle yet ? or is he waiting for official word from Camp Propoganda ?
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February 20, 2012 2:14pm
F E Smith

grumpy,

you are trolling again.
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February 20, 2012 2:23pm
RightNow

Rat, what is the ‘broadband debacle’? I can get as much as bandwidth as I want to pay for. There’s no debacle – just people who want fast internet for less than it costs.
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February 20, 2012 2:53pm
immigant

I wonder how long it will be untill this great idea is destroyed by government beurocracy and professional complainers.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/6443328/Gourmet-school-grub-is-delivered-to-order
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February 20, 2012 4:14pm
plebe

WOW i wonder why Mr Farrar has not done a major on this .FOLKS checkout your life insurance policies when you go into hospital.
Under our jovial PM John Key,86 NEW ZEALANDERS died after entering our RUN DOWN (lets sack the nurses and doctors)
hospital system .THATS RIGHT fellow NZrs,86 people died from our shitty health service There were 344 +preventable mishaps .With Key in charge of our SICK country and his everything must pay its way (MONEY MARKET) outlook and after everything has been sold ,the VERY CHEAP yak herders he employs from mongolia to be nurses and doctors will fit in aright. REMEMBER 86 dead,one could have been someone close to youright john boy.
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February 20, 2012 4:59pm
RightNow

plebe – are you claiming that no preventable hospital deaths or mishaps happened between 1999 and 2008?
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February 20, 2012 5:05pm
plebe

Godsake, in our dying country every thing is compared to this or that year,which damn troughing party was in power who gives a rats stuff, 86 damn NZrs died LAST YEAR Righty,86 people with their futures ahead of them families loves hopes.
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February 20, 2012 5:25pm
reid

AGW propaganda takes an astute turn. For example:

Oreskes is co-author, with Erik Conway, of Merchants of Doubt, an investigation into the links between corporate business interests and campaigns in the US aimed at blocking the introduction of environmental and medical measures such as bans on smoking and the use of DDT, laws to limit acid rain, legislation to end the depletion of ozone in the atmosphere and attempts to curb carbon dioxide emissions.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/feb/19/science-scepticism-usdomesticpolicy
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February 20, 2012 6:35pm
reid

Ruthless social workers in UK force parents/children to flee to Ireland whose own social workers are aghast at their counterpart’s behaviour.

This is what WE are heading for, I hope you know. Sometime in the not too distant future maybe ten, twenty years, OUR CYFS workers are going to be just as zealous and self-righteous and authoritarian (because they’re “saving” the children). And some of us are going to flee to Australia. You wait. You can see it in their eyes. Just waiting for it, to be allowed finally, to teach those bastards a lesson.
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February 20, 2012 6:51pm
reid

March 8: the end of the interweb. Pour Johnboy 🙂

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2102856/Will-FBI-shut-Internet-March-8-virus-concerns.html#ixzz1mmoZcW5a
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February 20, 2012 6:55pm
nasska

A couple, both 62, went to a sex therapist’s office.
The doctor asked, “What can I do for you?”

The man said, “Will you watch us have sexual intercourse?”

The doctor looked puzzled, but agreed. The doctor examined them
and then directed them to disrobe and go at it.

When the couple finished, the doctor re-examined them and upon
completion he advised the couple, “There’s nothing wrong with the
way you have intercourse.” He then charged them $42.

This happened several weeks in a row. The couple would make an
appointment, have intercourse with no apparent problems, get
dressed, pay the doctor, and then leave.

Finally after almost two months of this routine, the doctor
asked, “Just exactly what are you trying to find out?”

The old man said, “Oh, we’re not trying to find out anything.
She’s married and we can’t go to her house. I’m married, so we
can’t go to my house. The Copthorne charges $160. The Hilton
charges $178. So, we do it here for $42 and I get $28 back from
Southern Cross.
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February 20, 2012 8:00pm
reid

The old man said…

I guess when you get old doing stuff in front of the doctor becomes more and more comfortable, one imagines.
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February 20, 2012 8:05pm
nasska

…”I guess when you get old doing stuff in front of the doctor becomes more and more comfortable”……

Personally, I think it would push my comfort level to the extreme…..mind you, different strokes for different folks. I’ve met people who are so parsimonious that they’d do it at a railway station in rush hour to save money.
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February 20, 2012 8:22pm
Griff

A Texan walks into a pub in Ireland and clears his voice to the crowd of drinkers. He says, “I hear you Irish are a bunch of hard drinkers. I’ll give $500 American dollars to anybody in here who can drink 10 pints of Guinness back-to-back.”

The room is quiet, and no one takes up the Texan’s offer. One man even leaves.

Thirty minutes later the same gentleman who left shows back up and taps the Texan on the shoulder. “Is your bet still good?” asks the Irishman.

The Texan says yes and asks the bartender to line up 10 pints of Guinness. Immediately the Irishman tears into all 10 of the pint glasses, drinking them all back-to-back.

The other pub patrons cheer as the Texan sits in amazement. The Texan gives the Irishman the $500 and says, “If ya don’t mind me askin’, where did you go for that 30 minutes you were gone?”

The Irishman replies, “Oh… I had to go to the pub down the street to see if I could do it first.”
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February 20, 2012 8:40pm
nasska

A guy goes into a pub and asks for “2 whiskeys, one for me and one for my mate”The landlord says “is your mate coming in later?” The man says “No, he is in my pocket” and pulls out a perfect little 6″ high man.”He can”t drink whiskey” says the landlord.”Yes he can” says the guy and the tiny man drinks the glass of whiskey.”He can”t even walk” says the landlord. The guy tells the little man to walk and he walks up and down on top of the bar.He can”t even talk” says the landlord.”Yes he can” says the guy.He says to the little man “Tell him about the time you called that witch doctor a wanker”.
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February 20, 2012 8:44pm
Griff

My god! What happened to you?” the bartender asked Kelly as he hobbled in on a crutch, one arm in a cast.

“I got in a tiff with Riley.”

“Riley? He’s just a wee fellow,” the barkeep said surprised.

“He must have had something in his hand.”

“That he did,” Kelly said. “A shovel it was.”

“Dear Lord. Didn’t you have anything in your hand?”

“Aye, that I did–Mrs. Riley’s left breast.” Kelly said. “And a beautiful thing it was, but not much use in a fight!”
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February 20, 2012 8:49pm
nasska

The Murphys are giving their first dinner party in their posh new house. Once most of the guests have left, Mrs. Murphy asks her neighbour if she did everything correctly.

“It was perfect,” says the neighbour, “well almost: there were no sugar tongs.”

“Sugar tongs?”

“Well,” says the neighbour, “when the men go to the toilet, very few of them wash their hands after handling their you-know-whats, and then they use their fingers to take sugar lumps from the bowl for their coffee. That’s why you need sugar tongs.”

Mrs. Murphy takes this advice to heart and after her next dinner party she asks her neighbour once again if she did everything correctly.

“It was perfect again,” says the neighbour, “but why didn’t you follow my advice about the sugar tongs?”

“I did,” says Mrs. Murphy, “I hung them up right beside the toilet.”
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February 20, 2012 8:58pm
Manolo

Words written 38 years ago, but very applicable to today’s New Zealand. They couldn’t be a better description of Key’s Labour lite government:
“If a Tory does not believe that private property is one of the main bulwarks of individual freedom, then he had better become a socialist and have done with it. Indeed one of the reasons of our electoral failure is that people believe too many Conservatives have become socialists already.

There is a widespread feeling that the Conservative party has not defended the ideals explicitly and toughly enough, so the country is set on a course towards inevitable socialist mediocrity.

Why should anyone support a party that seems to have the courage of no convictions?
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February 20, 2012 9:08pm
nasska

Manolo

As long as a party requires about 50% of the vote to sit on the Treasury benches we might as well get used to watered down policies from National. There are simply not enough voters prepared to consider what is right for the country rather than what lines their pockets.
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February 20, 2012 9:24pm
Griff

Will we have to wait in till national implodes under the toxicity of successive governments before we get some sort of choice on the right?
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February 20, 2012 9:27pm
Griff

Not the tui ads

Auckland group Feminist Action has launched a campaign to get Tui to withdraw sexist beer ads featuring its all-female brewery.
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February 20, 2012 10:07pm

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