General Debate 19 February 2012

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nasska

A man and his wife are playing golf, the wife accidentally breaks a window in a nearby house with her golf ball. They go to the house to apologise. The front door is standing open and inside is a smashed lamp. A man appears, they start to apologise, but he silences them.

‘I am the genie of the magic lamp, and you have released me. I can grant three wishes. I will give one of the wishes to each of you, if you will allow me to have the third wish for myself.’

The husband says he wants a hundred thousand dollars every year of his life, and the genie grants it, adding he will have a long, happy and healthy life.

The wife says she wants a house in every capital city of the world, so she has somewhere comfortable to stay while traveling the world. the genie grants the wish, adding that the houses will be beautiful and safe from any harm.

Then it is the genie’s turn. He states that he finds the woman attractive and desirable, and he would live to spend the afternoon having sex with her.

The couple confer and decide it is a price they are willing to pay for the riches that the genie will bestow on them. He takes her upstairs and has passionate vigorous sex with her many times all afternoon, in every conceivable way, until finally the clock strikes five and they collapse exhausted back on the bed.

‘How old are you and your husband?’ asks the genie.

‘My husband is 32 and I am 30’ the wife replies.

‘Amazing! And you both still believe in genies and magic lamps at that age ….’
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February 19, 2012 8:00pm
Pauleastbay

conspiracy theory 1001

The Greens are going to have their latest moonbat Mojo Mathers spout the latest and greatest and the weird and wonderful ito the public domain

As soon as derision and scorn are piled upon her, the piler will be taken to task for picking on said moonbat because she’s deaf. Then the really stupid idea will get much more publicity than it would otherwise get.

Has this got legs Reid?
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February 19, 2012 8:15pm
cha

Talent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kPvciIdDZAE#!
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February 19, 2012 8:16pm
nasska

mikenmild

A true green is a tree hugger…..the extreme left policies of the NZ Green Parliamentary Party are relatively recent add-ons there to broaden its electorate base. Therefore the greens have a socialist bent….

The word socialist has a sufficiently vague enough meaning to include Social Democrats & Marxists……that is a broad enough church to include a few current MPs. They are easy to identify…….they all waffle about “workers’ wights” & espouse totalitarian ideals.

Generally their women have higher testosterone levels than their men.
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February 19, 2012 8:18pm
Pauleastbay

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Generally their women have higher testosterone levels than their men.

Which leads to quite innocuous comments like ” that women’s got a moustache”?

Other greens can then be identified by the howling and hand wringing when innocuous comments like that above are made.
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February 19, 2012 8:24pm
Griff

The 50 most brilliant, obnoxious, or delightfully sociopathic Facebook posts of 2011.
http://www.happyplace.com/13075/the-50-most-brilliant-obnoxious-or-delightfully-sociopathic-facebook-posts-of-2011/page/1
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February 19, 2012 8:24pm
reid

As soon as derision and scorn are piled upon her, the piler will be taken to task for picking on said moonbat because she’s deaf. Then the really stupid idea will get much more publicity than it would otherwise get.

Has this got legs Reid?

Well to a certain extent Paul yes, but to another extent, it doesn’t really work like that, with things like Mojo. It’s complicated, you see.

A true green is a tree hugger

If a tree hugger is hugging a tree and it falls and kills him or her, and there is no-one else around to hear the sound, does anyone care?
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February 19, 2012 8:28pm
bhudson

@mikey,

Greens=socialism. Socialism is a much misused term – not just on Kiwiblog. I don’t actually think there is a socialist in our parliament at the moment.

Correct. Socialism is characterised by comprehensive regulation by the state, with the state also owning the means of production. [You could argue social ownership’, of which state ownership is but one option, but let’s keep it simple.]

The Greens (and Labour) are all for comprehensive regulation by the state, but neither are arguing for state ownership of the means of production (the utility companies, one bank and an airline company aside.) No they are comfortable with the means of production being privately owned.

The combination of comprehensive state regulation and private ownership is not a characteristic of socialism.

It is, however, a combination characteristic of fascism…

Fascists advocate: a state-directed, regulated economy that is dedicated to the nation; the use and primacy of regulated private property and private enterprise contingent upon service to the nation or state; the use of state enterprise where private enterprise is failing or is inefficient; and autarky.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

(In this sense ‘autarky’ could be used as principle to exclude foreign investment.)

Food for thought
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February 19, 2012 8:28pm
nasska

“Doctor, I’m worried my body is changing with this testosterone treatment. I’m growing hair in very unusual places.”

“Don’t worry madam, it’s perfectly normal. Where are you growing this hair?”

“Around my balls.”
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February 19, 2012 8:31pm
nasska

reid

No.
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February 19, 2012 8:32pm
reid

Interesting hitherto unpublished Sir Isaac Newton papers available free online

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2101960/Revealed-esoteric-interests-Britains-greatest-scientist-Sir-Isaac-Newtons-occult-theological-writings-posted-online.html

The link in the article is wrong: this is it.

http://web.nli.org.il/sites/NLI/English/gallery/Humanities/Pages/newton.aspx
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February 19, 2012 8:37pm
Pauleastbay

My mate’s wife left him last Thursday; she said she was going out for
a pint of milk and never came back!

I asked him how he was coping and he
said ‘not bad, I’ve been getting used to the powdered stuff’
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February 19, 2012 8:37pm
calendar girl

MM 8.48am: “Like it or not, Waitangi Day is our national day, as it commemorates the founding of our nation.”
MM 9.43am: “I think Waitangi Day is our founding day, but it doesn’t mean it should necessarily be a day on which we celebrate our great country.”

Firstly, that’s a high level of inconsistency between two comment made less than an hour apart.

Secondly, your “like it or not” style of debate does little to promote your point of view, whatever that point of view may be.

Thirdly, whatever other NZers choose to do (that’s their freedom of choice, of course) I will never regard Waitangi Day as my national day. It has been hijacked, distorted and thrown on the national scrapheap in the sacred causes of Maori separatism and leftist politics. It has had little to do with me or mine for decades. We will now have nothing further to do with it.

Would that our country’s leaders might see the light and discontinue their attendance at Waitangi Day “celebrations”. Even activist journalists could then have a quiet summer day’s holiday.
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February 19, 2012 8:38pm
reid

The Murdoch thing gets worse and worse. Now at crisis levels. Crikey. C-R-I-K-E-Y. Criiiiiiiikyyyyyyyyyyyyy.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/feb/15/met-sun-public-officials

(Since Rupert’s an Aussie I know he appreciates the depth and wisdom behind my above advice.)
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February 19, 2012 8:48pm
nasska

A bloke got sacked from his part-time job as a Housie caller the other day….

Apparently “A meal for two with a terrible view” isn’t the best way to announce number 69.
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February 19, 2012 8:49pm
mikenmild

Well, I couldn’t care less if national leaders went to Waitangi each year or not.
But as for inconsistency, you missed the point: Waitangi Day is our national day but that does not oblige anyone to celebrate it as such.
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February 19, 2012 8:51pm
Scott Chris

nasska says:- “Your mistake is trying to draw a link between Liberalism & Socialism.”

Great. Well I hope you continue to draw that distinction. Like mikenmild says, there are very few socialists left these days.

Thing about Liberalism though is that it does require government intervention in order to uphold everyone’s rights.
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February 19, 2012 9:01pm
Griff

98% of us would like to celebrate our great nation with out the 2% jumping up and down like a bunch of stone age savages
Declaring Hunting season would make it better.
Or national tree a gween day. It would give my dog loads of fun to go on a gween hunt
We would not actually harm the gween when its up the tree
only when it comes down.
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February 19, 2012 9:01pm
nasska

Scott Chris

The difference between Socialists & Liberals is equal to that of chalk & cheese. A true Liberal wants for freedom of the individual & that automatically means less governance.

Socialists are totalitarian by nature. The individual is subservient to the State & whatever means & force are required to keep it that way will be used. They are horrible people who know better how to run our lives than you or me.
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February 19, 2012 9:12pm
mikenmild

I’m pretty sure the correct spelling for green is G-R-E-E-N.
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February 19, 2012 9:12pm
Griff

Gween =watermelon hence the need to add the w
green + watermelon = gween
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February 19, 2012 9:17pm
reid

Well, I couldn’t care less if national leaders went to Waitangi each year or not.

I’ve been thinking that if Key does attend Waitangi Marae next year then what he should do to make all the rest of us happy, is to have a historically authentic re-enactment of the Te Tiriti signing event replete with period costumes galore and all the colonial pomp we can possibly muster. Navy gun ships, the lot. Key could dress up and be Hobson, you see. Lockwood could be Bishop Williams. You get the picture.

Anyway, we could placate any resistance from Mana et al by offering them special jobs to organise the poi dancers and things like that, so I’m sure they’ll be pretty happy so what other problems are there?

I think it’s a great idea and if anyone disagrees with me, why, they just hate NZ which means they’re traitors.
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February 19, 2012 9:37pm
mikenmild

Thanks Griff, that’s really hilarious.
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February 19, 2012 9:43pm
Griff

You forget the Maori firsters reid
We could have a great big hangi and the maori firsters could volunteer to be the cook or the cooked. That would be returning to tribal ways so they will be happy to play
Very gween way to feed the multitude better than poaching shellfish or crays
and reid could use his super duper ray gun to heat the stones proving the link between modern technology and stone age methods
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February 19, 2012 9:52pm
Griff

THE paper trail connecting the climate change denial movement in Australia and the conservative US spin merchants the Heartland Institute.
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/web-leak-shows-trail-of-climate-sceptic-funding-20120217-1tegk.html

The Australian Climate Science Coalition, an offshoot of a conservative lobby group called the Australian Environment Foundation, received virtually all its funding from the International Climate Science Coalition, which has been financially supported by Heartland.

In 2010, the Australian group had an income of 50,920, and 46,343 of that came from the American Climate Science Coalition, an offshoot of the International Climate Science Coalition.

The coalition’s main activities seem to be writing letters to newspaper editors, ringing talk back radio programs and flooding websites with comments that attack climate change coverage.

When will we find out about our little nest of Denialists
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February 19, 2012 11:54pm
cha

http://www.ucsusa.org/news/press_release/scientists-emails-stolen-heartland-institute-1372.html
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February 20, 2012 12:26am
Griff

The Chicago-based Heartland Institute paid the New Zealand Climate Science Coalition grants of US$25,000 ($30,800) and US$45,000 in in 2007.

The coalition said on its website it had never had financial support from corporations, foundations or governments, and “99 per cent of all donations have come from private individuals in the United Kingdom, New Zealand, United States and Australia”.

Asked why the coalition did not disclose its funding from Heartland, Mr Leyland said the money came from private donors who “had no interest in climate change”.

Who is the anonymous doner at heartland??
Who funds “dissuading teachers in teaching science”
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February 20, 2012 1:09am
Viking2

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10786647
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