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February 17, 2012 8:00am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 17 February 2012

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Elaycee

Jeez. 100 comments in GD so far and 21 from Weihana. The latest reincarnation of the blog know all.

Tap tap tap…..

I’ll be real happy when he has to go to bed. 😀
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February 17, 2012 4:45pm
Longknives

These bloody criminals were on a crime spree in a stolen car with a loaded gun in the back seat…yet the bloody lunatic Children’s Commissioner is crying because Police ‘frightened them’? I don’t give a shit how old they are- pull this kind of stunt just about any other country in the World and you’ll end up with a bullet between the eyes…

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/6437716/Probe-into-police-conduct-in-youths-arrest
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February 17, 2012 4:53pm
RightNow

Longknives – my thoughts exactly. Old enough to do the crime, old enough to be apprehended with extreme prejudice.
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February 17, 2012 4:55pm
RF

Two armed burglars had a crime spree in the South Island several years ago. They were chased in their stolen jag to the Nelson area where armed Police had to road spike the vehicle. Those poor wee souls had glock pistols pointed at them when the car finally stopped and now according to Stuff the Children’s Commissioner has made a complaint to the Police Complaints Authority. FFS whats wrong with this country. I know one of their victims, an elderly widow and she still has nightmares.
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February 17, 2012 4:57pm
Wayne91

Longknives – you beat me to the punch

Yeah – they probably thought they were king dicks while they were on their crime spree with a loaded weapon , no regard for other people or thier property.

Hopefully the poor wee things were so “frightened” they never carry out that sort of crap again.
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February 17, 2012 4:58pm
Longknives

I see this ‘bleeding-hearts’ article has been updated to include ‘heartwrenching’ comment from the little scumbag’s mother (No doubt a DPB sucking parasite..)….For a bit of balance perhaps this journalist might have interviewed the aformentioned elderly victim??
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February 17, 2012 5:07pm
Bevan

I agree she has enough and is simply looking to complain rather than find solutions based on the options available to her.

I think that assessment is accurate, and unfortunately common among those in society with their hand always extended. Its lamentable that many in NZ resort to the ‘its too hard therefore I can’t succeed’ meme, instead of trying to think how they can make it work for themselves. It seems some society just want others to take their horse to the water for them.
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February 17, 2012 5:55pm
wreck1080

As I expected, bollard purposefully pushed up the Kiwi dollar today with his disgraceful speech.

I just don’t get why he did this, if anything we want the dollar to decline from the record highs it is currently pushing.
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February 17, 2012 6:05pm
Don the Kiwi

Scott Chris.
3.35 pm.
You need to get to know what you are talking about – you obviously haven’t got a bloody clue.

Its not only the Catholic church, but most protestant churches, evagelicals, jews and muslims.

Its a direct assualt on the American constitution relating to individual citizens rights.

Check it out, and then apologise for your stupidity.

And besides, contraception and abortion is a lifestyle choice, not a health issue.

Get a life.
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February 17, 2012 7:37pm
Manolo

The whanau will say these two savages are “good boys”: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10785984
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February 17, 2012 7:44pm
kowtow

If this government was serious about saving tax payers money, reducing deficits etc it would be getting rid of commissioners who can only bag white folk and/or defend young criminals.
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February 17, 2012 7:51pm
Viking2

I was puzled by the choice of words this “prostitue” lady used.
“I’m sort of tossed up because I think at least with that [prostitution], if someone is available to look after the kids, I could run off and do one client and then I’ll be fine.

the phrase and the use of the words indicates to me that this is nothing new but something done before and indeed may well be current.
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February 17, 2012 7:56pm
nasska

How a Government Department Works

Once upon a time the government decided to scrap all the
obsolete useless equipment they had bought over the years
& assembled it somewhere in South Auckland. Cabinet said
“Someone may steal some of it at night.” So they created a
night watchman position and hired a person for the job.

Then Cabinet said, “How does the guard do his job without
instruction?” So they created a planning department and hired two
people, one person to write the instructions, and one person to
do time studies.

Then Cabinet said, “How will we know the guard
is doing the tasks correctly?” So they created a Quality Control
department and hired two people. One to do the studies and
one to write the reports.

Then Cabinet said, “How are these people going to get paid?”
So they created the following positions, a timekeeper, and a
payroll officer, then hired two people.

Then Cabinet said, “Who will be accountable for all of these
people?” So they created an administrative section and hired
three people, an Administrative Officer, Assistant Administrative
Officer, and a Human Resources Manager.

Then Cabinet said, “We have had this command in operation for
one year and we are $418,000 over budget, we must cut back
overall cost.”

So they laid off the night security guard.
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February 17, 2012 8:01pm
Yvette

After Onan’s brother Er died, his father Judah told Onan to fulfill his duty as a brother-in-law to Tamar, by giving her offspring. However, when Onan had sex with Tamar, he disregarded a principle of Levirate marriage and he withdrew before climax, “spilling his seed on the ground”, since any child born would not legally be considered his heir. This he did several times, disregarding the principle of a Levirate union, and was accordingly sentenced to death by Yahweh for this wickedness. – Genesis 38:8-10

Spilling seed was collateral, the means to the end sin of selfishness or lack of compassion, but the mis-read text became central to the Roman Catholic Church’s teaching on contraception and masturbation, or any sexual act for non-procreational purposes.

In this the Catholic Church itself [and others] commit the same sin as Onan – a lack of compassion, but have extended it to plague untold millions.
SNAFU !
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February 17, 2012 8:18pm
Tauhei Notts

Yvette,
In a pub quiz several years ago a team called themselves the “Omniscient Onanists”
Know all wankers, the quiz master announced!
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February 17, 2012 8:29pm
nasska

…”central to the Roman Catholic Church’s teaching on contraception and masturbation, or any sexual act for non-procreational purposes.”……

I’m glad you cleared that up for us. As a young Catholic lad, Andrei went shopping. He bought some tissues & a tube of lube then started thinking to himself……

If, according to Catholics, masturbation is murder does buying tissues make it pre-meditated?
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February 17, 2012 8:29pm
Tauhei Notts

Nasska,
On that subject, and as this is General Debate I can mention it, there is a very good movie on Channel 25 tomorrow at 11.30 p.m. It is named “Room In Rome” and if Kiwibloggers dislike my taste in foreign movies I will never ever put another recommendation on this blog.
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February 17, 2012 8:37pm
nasska

Tauhei Notts

I’ll get someone in town to “tape” it.
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February 17, 2012 8:46pm
Yvette

Harry Potter on spilling seed –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0kJHQpvgB8
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February 17, 2012 9:18pm
nasska

Yvette

Great link.
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February 17, 2012 9:44pm
Scott Chris

Don the Kiwi

On the contrary. Religious institutions are not exempt from secular law. Catholic hospitals employ over 800,000 people in the United States, most of whom are not Catholic, and it is in their interests that this legislation is being implemented. Of course other religions object to this, but tom hunter brought up Catholics specifically and they are the most prominent challengers of this law.

What you don’t seem to understand is that providing insurance cover for contraception is a matter of public health, as 98% of American citizens will use contraception at one time or another and contraceptives, especially condoms are effective in preventing unwanted pregnancies and transmission of STDs.

This issue is no different from ensuring 12 year old girls receive the HPV vaccine which many a negligent parent is opposed to to the detriment of their child’s well being.
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February 17, 2012 10:58pm

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