General Debate 9 January 2012

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iMP

Will the Sea Shepherds be heading to Nelson soon, to save those whales? or is it just about playing pirates and confronting establishment (Occupy Antarctica).

Bunch of bucolic sea cowboys who deserve to be taken to Japan, tried, and suffer the consequences of boarding a vessel
for the fourth time.
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January 9, 2012 8:14am
Dave Mann

I wonder if Michael Laws will be back on the radio this morning….?
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January 9, 2012 8:17am
iMP

Happy to take Aust donations and call their ship “Steve Irwin,” but refuse to pay Aust gst on Aust fuel they take on board.
“Sorry Paul Watson (aka Cptn Balbossa), you now want help from whom?…the Aust. taxpayers and govt.?” Yeah Right!
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January 9, 2012 8:19am
Scott Chris

The GOP continues to consume itself:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/09/us/politics/romney-is-the-main-target-in-a-caustic-gop-debate.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss&src=igw

Summed up quite well in the reply Huntsman gave to Romney who had criticized him for serving as Obama’s Ambassador to China:

“This nation is divided,” Mr. Huntsman said, shaking his head, “because of attitudes like that.”

I’m rootin’ for Huntsman. Best lookin’ guy at least.
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January 9, 2012 8:23am
Manolo

Quite the contrary, Scott.

The intensity and heat of the GOP primary process will produce the best candidate, one with good chances of defeating the anti-American president, the Messiah.
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January 9, 2012 8:28am
iMP

Watch Newt come out hard and spend lots of $ on negative ads against Romney this week in New Hampshire.
Newt needs a good win in NH (either a win or within striking distance of Romney. He also needs to ascend above his good mate Santorum.

Newt is 63. He should go to Santorum (52 i think) and say, we’re splitting the vote, Romney will win by default, let’s form a ticket. I’ll be the candidate 2012 you be my VP, then in 2016 I’ll step down and back you as the Nominee and be the VP. Experience + Youth.
Their only chance.

If Ron paul goes Independent, Obama is the next president.
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January 9, 2012 8:34am
Keeping Stock

@ Dave Mann; that’s what RadioWorks has been advertising.
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January 9, 2012 8:39am
Longknives

And the award for tackiest headline and most unnecessary article of 2012 (so far) goes to the Herald-

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10777504
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January 9, 2012 9:12am
MT_Tinman

iMP (430) Says:
January 9th, 2012 at 8:14 am
Will the Sea Shepherds be heading to Nelson soon, to save those whales? or is it just about playing pirates and confronting establishment (Occupy Antarctica).

Bunch of bucolic sea cowboys who deserve to be taken to Japan, tried, and suffer the consequences of boarding a vessel
for the fourth time.

I agree except they should make the bastards walk to Japan.
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January 9, 2012 9:16am
Other_Andy

I know some people are still reading the NYT editorials, but quoting them…?
Here is a movie they should see.

LFM Review on “Page One, The New York Times & Modern Media Bias”

At the Libertas film blog, David Ross reviews the recent documentary Page One: Inside the New York Times.

The postmodern Times is a cavalcade of inaccuracy, omission, myopia, flagrant political bias, outrageously lousy writing, latent snobbery, and superficial urban sophistication. All the shallowness of the modern elite university has come home to roost at the Times.

http://www.libertasfilmmagazine.com/lfm-review-page-one-the-new-york-times-modern-media-bias/
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January 9, 2012 9:32am
eszett

The intensity and heat of the GOP primary process will produce the best candidate, one with good chances of defeating the anti-American president, the Messiah.

Really, Manolo? Who are you putting your money on, then? Are you secretly a Mitt Romney fan? Or are you more of a Santorum man?

BTW, I love to google Santorum, just cracks me up every time. But then again, I am easily amused
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January 9, 2012 9:45am
Scott Chris

Andy, a paper’s bias doesn’t matter. Critical thought does. I latched on to that particular story because it reinforces my belief that the US political culture has gone from sour to rotten.

Jon Stewart and John Oliver illustrate this beautifully in this pisstake of the attempted appointment of the consumer financial protection chief:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-january-5-2012/commission–impossible—consumer-financial-protection-bureau-chief-appointment
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January 9, 2012 9:45am
Manolo

In the best tradition of Chardonnay socialists and defenders of the poor: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2083827/The-12m-tax-mystery-Tony-Blairs-earnings-soar-42–pays-315-000-HMRC.html
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January 9, 2012 9:53am
bhudson

@eszett,

I think Manolo will be a Ron Paul supporter
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January 9, 2012 9:57am
eszett

@bhudson

but Ron Paul doesn’t have a snowballs chance in hell of winning this the nomination. Thus he can’t be the best candidate (zccording to Manolo’s statement).

But I agree, he would be the best fit for Manolo. He does have a certain eccentric charm.
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January 9, 2012 10:15am
Manolo

He does have a certain eccentric charm.

I feel flattered and honoured by the compliment. 🙂

True, Ron Paul has no real chance of getting the nomination. There is an air of inevitability around Romney, but there are a few more hurdles (primaries) to clear. May the best man, win.
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January 9, 2012 10:20am
Other_Andy

Longknives Says:

“And the award for tackiest headline and most unnecessary article of 2012 (so far) goes to the Herald”

Emilia Wade’s attempt at ‘cutting-edge’ journalism resulting in a massive fail on several levels.

“And the award for the most absurd letter to the editor of 2012 (so far) also goes to the Herald”

Read Errol Anderson’s letter in the Herald today.
I won’t go into his ridiculous statement in the first part of his letter which is easily proven to be nonsensical. But even if you take the first part at face-value, the last part of the letter, where he misses the glaringly obvious difference when comparing Earth and Venus, is so absurd that I am wondering how this letter got past any, supposedly, half-educated editor.
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January 9, 2012 10:22am
Monique Watson

A statement by the American Academy of Pediatrics about the importance of the early childhood years.

http://nowoccupy.blogspot.com/2012/01/inequity-today-pt-1-american-academy-of.html

Woo hoo it’s election season over here. iIm a resident of San francisco now. Have I had my eyes opened. I thought America was a bad nasty place, and we in Godzone were the privileged ones. I thought the USA was polluted to shit and full of awful bullies. Turns out it was the socialist brainwashing. Now I’m a Yankeewi and the sooner I become a US citizen the better. Of course I love NZ and want to see better outcomes back home but currently NZ really is a nasty small-minded abusive child-killing hole of a place.
With bad roads.
They know how to build roads here.

Have a nice day.
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January 9, 2012 10:27am
Manolo

Congratulations, Monique.
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January 9, 2012 10:29am
Scott Chris

Presumably Monique is in one of the gated communities.

Mind you, most people’s world view is formed by what is immediately around them. That’s why a disproportionate number of doctors commit suicide. Cause the world is full of sick and complaining people.
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January 9, 2012 11:00am
Chuck Bird

Darrell Turner: Nudists folk-devils for moral panic
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10777482

I see an apologist for the perverts as Ladies Bay has been given a right of response. I am not a naturist but have no problem with genuine naturists. This guy is claiming to be an expert on the subject but his views are not only contrary to the local residents but genuine naturists as well. I have made brief quote from two web sites as well as the Herald.

What do the liberals on this blog think the locals should do – surrender a local beach to perverted, deviate and criminal behaviour?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10777231

“When I was 14 and my sister 18, we went to Ladies Bay for an afternoon swim and were followed up the stairway and along Cliff Rd by a man with an erection,” she said. “It was quite a lesson … and we have never gone back.”

http://www.freebeaches.org.nz/auckland.htm

Ladies Bay

Next to St Leonards on the North Shore, Ladies Bay used to be probably the most popular of the Auckland urban options. (Despite a council-built viewing platform over the beach, now much shortened.) Of great concern to genuine Naturists is the serious, and warranted; reputation for bad behaviour there, due to the combination of an aggressive local person promoting the place as ‘adult'(!) and inadequate policing of this person’s activity over the last few years. No longer recommended!

http://www.letsgetnaked.co.nz/#/nude-beach-ladies-bay/4543354554

Review 4
By kylie_nz in January 2011

I’m new to nude beaches. Ladies Bay was the third I’ve been to and I must say I felt quite uncomfortable. I went with a friend; we’re both young and female. There was one man who was obviously there for the wrong reasons; his staring made us so uncomfortable we covered up. By the end of the hour 5 other older men had sat themselves around us. This beach is nice and close but I found the staring very uncomfortable. If you’re older and male I’d say you’d have less problems!
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January 9, 2012 11:30am
reid

For those who have forgotten history, so they remember when it repeats, which it will do, with Iran:

http://tv.globalresearch.ca/2012/01/faking-it-how-media-manipulates-world-war
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January 9, 2012 11:58am
Scott Chris

Is simple maths true?

Let X = 0.99recurring
then 10X = 9.99recurring
so 10X – X = 9.99recurring – 0.99recurring = 9
so if 10X – X = 9, then X = 1.

so 1 = 0.99recurring
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January 9, 2012 2:47pm
reid

Did Psychopaths Take Over Wall Street?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-03/did-psychopaths-take-over-wall-street-asylum-commentary-by-william-cohan.html
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January 9, 2012 3:10pm
XChequer

For all you trendy staffers, pollies and pro’s out there, check this out:

http://thenzhomeoffice.blogspot.com/2012/01/now-this-is-cool.html

I expect all of you to lead the way and have bought one by Christmas next year.
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January 9, 2012 4:09pm
Monique Watson

Yeah I was a bit sour grapes with my last comment. I’ve seen the world Scott Chris. In my last incarnation I was a booze-hag with zero parenting skills. Have you got a good joke Nasska?
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January 9, 2012 4:20pm
Scott Chris

Jus’ teasin’ Monique like you were. I like San Francisco, the little I’ve seen of it, and it sounds like you’re in a good spot. Really, I’m jealous.

Yeah, the States is bigger and shinier and 15 years into the future, but they don’t have any fantails so I’m staying put.
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January 9, 2012 4:36pm
cha

And the kid glove treatment of these animals continues.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/01/04/courtroom-fury-as-catholic-bishop-walks-free-just-hours-after-child-porn-sentencing/
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January 9, 2012 4:37pm
Other_Andy

@monique

Hmmm the Socialist Republic of Kalifornia, the home of three of the craziest politicians in the US, Maxine Waters, Barbara Boxer and ‘crazy eyes’ Nancy Pelosi.
Aren’t you lucky….

Lots of Kalifornian refugees moving to other states while new immigrants are flooding in,,,
The ones that are running might have the right idea.
Ready for some ‘new and improved taxes’?
(The People’s Republic owes $2,542 per person (compared with the national median of $1,066) in debt.)
And more bad news on the way……..
http://www.mybudget360.com/calpers-calstrs-ucrs-california-pension-state-local-government-debt-markets/
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January 9, 2012 5:00pm
reid

For those with an open mind:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ4a_Gu49SA&feature=related
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January 9, 2012 7:07pm
Griff

Unionized Brothel

Matt was attending a convention in auckland
and, as you would expect, decided to check out the local brothels.
When he got to the first one, he asked the Madame, “Is this a union
house?”

“No,” she replied, “I’m sorry it isn’t.”

“Well, if I pay you $100, what cut do the girls get?”

“The house gets $80, and the girls get $20.” Mightily offended at
such unfair dealings, the man stomped off in search of a more
equitable, hopefully unionized shop.

His search continued until finally he reached a brothel where the
Madame responded, “Why yes sir, this is a union house.”

The man asked, “And if I pay you $100, what cut do the girls get?”
The Madame replied’ ” the girls get $80, and the house gets $20.”

“That’s more like it!” the union man said. He looked around the room
and pointed to a stunning attractive blonde. “I’d like her for the
night.”

“I’m sure you would sir,” said the Madame, then, gesturing to an
obese seventy-five year old woman in the corner, “but Ethel here has
seniority.”
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January 9, 2012 7:57pm
nasska

Phillip fancied himself quite a ladies man, so when his cruise ship went down in a storm and he found himself stranded on a desert island with six women, he couldn’t believe his good fortune. They quickly agreed that each woman would have one night a week with the only man.
Phillip threw himself into the arrangement with gusto, working even on his day off, but as the weeks stretched into months, he found himself looking forward to that day of rest more and more eagerly.
One afternoon he was sitting on the beach and wishing for some more men to share his duties when he caught sight of a man waving from a life raft that was bobbing on the waves. Phillip swam out, pulled the raft to shore, and did a little jig of happiness. “You can’t believe how happy I am to see you,” he cried.
The new fellow eyed him up and down and cooed, “You’re a sight for sore eyes, too, you gorgeous thing.”
“Shit,” sighed Phillip, “there go my Sundays.”
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January 9, 2012 8:02pm
Griff

This is me

One day a fisherman was lying on a beautiful beach, with his fishing pole propped up in the sand and his solitary line cast out into the sparkling blue surf. He was enjoying the warmth of the afternoon sun and the prospect of catching a fish.

About that time, a businessman came walking down the beach, trying to relieve some of the stress of his workday. He noticed the fisherman sitting on the beach and decided to find out why this fisherman was fishing instead of working harder to make a living for himself and his family.

“You aren’t going to catch many fish that way,” said the businessman to the fisherman, “you should be working rather than lying on the beach!”
The fisherman looked up at the businessman, smiled and replied, “And what will my reward be?”

“Well, you can get bigger nets and catch more fish!” was the businessman’s answer.
“And then what will my reward be?” asked the fisherman, still smiling.

The businessman replied, “You will make money and you’ll be able to buy a boat, which will then result in larger catches of fish!”
“And then what will my reward be?” asked the fisherman again.

The businessman was beginning to get a little irritated with the fisherman’s questions. “You can buy a bigger boat, and hire some people to work for you!” he said.
“And then what will my reward be?” repeated the fisherman.

The businessman was getting angry. “Don’t you understand? You can build up a fleet of fishing boats, sail all over the world, and let all your employees catch fish for you!”
Once again the fisherman asked, “And then what will my reward be?”

The businessman was red with rage and shouted at the fisherman, “Don’t you understand that you can become so rich that you will never have to work for your living again! You can spend all the rest of your days sitting on this beach, looking at the sunset. You won’t have a care in the world!”

The fisherman, still smiling, looked up and said, “And what do you think I’m doing right now?”
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January 9, 2012 8:20pm
nasska

A very small white guy gets convicted of murdering his wife and is sentenced to spend the rest of his life in a maximum security prison. On his first day he is escorted to his cell where he meets his cellmate; a 400-pound black guy, covered in tattoos. The white guy is scared to death.

When the guards leave, the black guy says “you and I are going to get along just fine. But I just have one question to ask you: do you want to be the husband or the wife?”

The white guy thinks real quick and says “I want to be the husband.”

The black guy responds “that’s fine by me. Now why don’t you get down on your knees and suck your wife’s dick.”
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January 9, 2012 8:41pm
Griff

Why God Never Received Tenure at the University

Because he had only one major publication.
And it was in Hebrew.
And it had no cited references.
And it wasn’t published in a refereed journal or even submitted for peer review.
And some even doubt he wrote it himself.
It may be true that he created the world but what has he done since?
His cooperative efforts have been quite limited.
The scientific community has had a very rough time trying to replicate his results.
He never applied to the Ethics Board for permission to use human subjects.
When one experiment went awry, he tried to cover it up by drowning the subjects.
He rarely came to class, just told students to read the book.
He expelled his first two students for learning.
Although there were only ten requirements, most students failed his tests.
His office hours were infrequent and usually held on a mountain top.
When subjects didn’t behave as predicted, he often punished them, or just deleted them from the sample.
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January 9, 2012 8:47pm
nasska

This college student was very attracted to a charming and delightful classmate. She was bright, witty, good looking, and very friendly. She also was in a wheelchair because she’d lost both legs in an accident. This proved to be no real barrier, however; this was one formidable woman whether she had legs or not. The young man asked her out on a date and she accepted.
They had a wonderful evening together, and they were most attracted to one another. When he brought her home, one thing led to another in the seat of the car, but she stopped him just at a crucial moment and said, “Wait, I’ve got an idea that will make it better for both of us. See that totara tree over there? Let me hang from that lower branch while we do it.”
He was amazed not only at her upper body strength, but also at how good the sex was. Afterwards, he brought her wheelchair over and gently took her down and wheeled her up to the house. As he was preparing to go, however, he saw her father standing on the porch. “Young man, I want you to know that I saw everything you did with my daughter.”
“You did?”
“Yes. And, I want to thank you.”
“You do?”
“Yes. Every other guy she’s brought home has left her hanging in the tree.”
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January 9, 2012 8:57pm
labours a joke

“Went to the pub with my girlfriend last night. Locals were shouting
“pedophile!” and other names at me, just because my girlfriend is 21 and I’m
50. It completely spoiled our 10th anniversary.”
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