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Pete George

The ODT reports on more death threats against euthanasia campaigner Sean Davison, this time via a brick thrown through his window:
“Leave Gods [sic] laws or be struck down dead”.

This follows a letter which said:
“An eye 4 an eye. A tooth 4 a tooth. A life 4 a life. U mother killer”.

Another example of an extreme non-christian Christian approach to someone you disagree with.

http://yourdunedin.org/2012/01/16/death-threat-disgrace/

There’s obvious pros and cons to euthanasia, as have been debated here recently. Death threats are not a sound argument.
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January 16, 2012 8:07am
Manolo

A despot mocks the opposition: http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/13/russian-ad-compares-putin-foe-with-hitler/?hp
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January 16, 2012 8:13am
joana

”There is obvious pros and cons to euthanasia ” ..well I suppose it depends on who is being euthanised..and whether it is voluntary or not. Why come to NZ to do this ? So many foreigners with so little regard for our laws..Who didn’t know FGM was
happening here? As I have said previously , the woman in the above case was supposed to be a doctor..She had stopped eating but didn’t seem to know she was likely to keep living as long as she kept drinking.
I don’t approve of attacks on this guy but I don’t approve of him either. He got off very lightly for breaking the law in this country but then foreigners often do. The wackjob who went bersek in the CYF’s office in Papanui is out on bail. If he were Maori , he would have been remanded in custody. The police want him to pay for the cost of cleaning up his blood.. The Labour Dept in CHCH is not investigating an accident at a circus because the circus is Chinese…etc etc etc…
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January 16, 2012 8:28am
Other_Andy

Another Greenpeace Fail

For years, researchers have seen falling salinity readings in the Canadian half of the Arctic Ocean. This has led them to theorise that large amounts of fresh water were being added due to permanent disappearance of ice.
Since 1999 Greenpeace has supported this view.
Calculations suggest that most, if not all, of the fresh water added to the Beaufort Sea came from melting Beaufort sea ice in the summer of 1997, and imply that much of the ice of the Beaufort Sea was much thinner (perhaps more than a meter thinner) at the end of the melt season in 1997 than it was during the end of the melt season in 1975.
However, the reality is different.
The falling salinity readings in the Canadian half of the Arctic Ocean are now attributed (By NASA) to an eastward shift in the path of Russian runoff through the Arctic Ocean, which is tied to an increase in the strength of the Northern Hemisphere’s west-to-east atmospheric circulation, known as the Arctic Oscillation. The resulting counterclockwise winds changed the direction of ocean circulation, diverting upper-ocean freshwater from Russian rivers away from the Arctic’s Eurasian Basin, between Russia and Greenland, to the Beaufort Sea in the Canada Basin bordered by the United States and Canada. The stronger Arctic Oscillation is associated with two decades of reduced atmospheric pressure over the Russian side of the Arctic.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/01/06/beaufort_freshwater_russian_rivers/
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v481/n7379/full/nature10705.html

Not that they will admit that they were wrong, again…..
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January 16, 2012 8:41am
Pete George

She had stopped eating but didn’t seem to know she was likely to keep living as long as she kept drinking.

My mother stopped eating and drinking a week before she died, so everyone knew that her death was inevitable and imminent – but it still took seven days of drawn out suffering. For what?
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January 16, 2012 8:47am
Fletch

“An eye 4 an eye. A tooth 4 a tooth. A life 4 a life. U mother killer”.

And what does the Bible record Jesus saying?

“You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.

“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[i] and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
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January 16, 2012 8:54am
hj

“New Zealanders are set to become tenants in their own land under the Government’s policies despite John Key saying two years ago he didn’t want it to happen, says Labour’s Economic Development spokesperson David Cunliffe.

David Cunliffe said that news that Landcorp may pay about $18 million a year to rent the Crafar farms from offshore-owned Penxgin, which is set to buy the farms, would see a publicly-owned New Zealand company renting New Zealand farmland from a foreign conglomerate.”
http://www.voxy.co.nz/politics/keys-kiwi-dream-tatters-cunliffe/5/112309

Penxgin donated $100,000 to national.

[DPF: Don’t lie. They did not. In fact overseas companies can not donate more than $1,000]
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January 16, 2012 9:00am
immigant

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10778999

Tripple kill for the Pacifikans.
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January 16, 2012 9:01am
hj

“Property Council chief executive Connal Townsend said debate about the future ownership of the 16 Crafar dairy farms appeared to have tapped a racist vein, when the real issue was New Zealand’s willingness to value its own landholdings and provide certainty to people who can commit capital, generate local employment, and encourage economic growth.”
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1007/S00062/overseas-investment-necessary-for-new-zealand.htm
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January 16, 2012 9:04am
hj

“Chinese New Zealand businesses, including one formerly owned by the businessman spearheading Shanghai Pengxin’s bid for the Crafar dairy farms, have boosted the National Party’s coffers by more than $100,000 in recent days.”
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10771749

[DPF: What part of former is so hard for you to understand?]
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January 16, 2012 9:07am
labours a joke

Forget about blanketman..what are the powers that be doing about child abuse here in Nil Ziland. Its a fuckin disgrace. Yet another maori baby murdered..beaten to death no doubt by the caring far-now. How many more this year ??? Disgusting maori child killers. Warriors. Pfftt !
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January 16, 2012 9:15am
Elaycee

hj – that was on December 8th and was reported / discussed at the time.

Nothing new to post from Gween HQ today?
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January 16, 2012 9:16am
immigant

Sorry my bad. Not a tripple kill, only one baby killed, she must have given the warrior parent the most lip.
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January 16, 2012 9:17am
labours a joke

Sips have taken the other 2…will be handed back to far-now later on after a family conference/hug/wankfest.
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January 16, 2012 9:22am
Neil

Why is it that the Green Party is hard at work spreading its message of disinformation virtually unchallenged in the msm in this ” silly season”
Lately we have had pronouncements from Mojo Mathers,bemoaning how Woolworths are gouging customers, Kevin Hague,Gareth Hughes on oil exploration and ex-leader Jeanette Fitzsimons boosting the anti-coal campaign in Southland.
The Greens are the party of the lazy,ignorant and warm fuzzies, presenting New Zealand the alternative of a pleasant nation locked up to prevent any type of development.For example,what clap trap Gareth Hughes talks about not needing petroleum in the future. How will the Green MP’s get around the country quickly if they have to go by horse or bicycle ?
Why aren’t the government starting to at least start challenging some of the articles of faith of the Greens. Main fact, the Greens programme will see greater compliance costs leading to a fall in employment. They are also the party of controls and the nanny state.
The so called Green economy or industry has been found to be a fraud wherever it has been introduced. In the USA the Obama misadministration has pumped money into these jobs, profiting a few insiders but not providing any kind of positive employment results.
Across the Tasman just look at the dangers of the Greens with their support of Labor’s new pro-union rules which reduce employment and add to customers costs.
That post from Other_Andy just shows how the Green element are like so many fringe organizations in seeking public opinion-telling porkies.
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January 16, 2012 9:31am
Pete George

The Whanganui baby death is very sad, but there’s unsubstantiated suggestions and accusations being made here. We don’t know any of the circumstances.
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January 16, 2012 9:33am
hj

[DPF: What part of former is so hard for you to understand?]
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Is it not possible that this is a payback or roundabout recompense? We like to believe we live in a relatively corruption free country but that could just be because we don’t see it going on and it isn’t as blatant as other countries.
Just as one example of palm greasing:

From a past South Island president of the Property Council:
Obviously the developers couldn’t buy the local politicians and public officials off fast enough in Dallas Fort Worth to overcome the zoning impediment – but they have been trying as this article Fed Up: Texas Monthly November 2007 illustrates. It goes on pretty much everywhere of course – but only illustrates how zoning tends to assist in inflating prices and stalling supply responses.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU200711/S00303.htm
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January 16, 2012 9:36am
labours a joke

..it was ” non accidental ” injuries Pete…you dont need to be a brain surgeon to work it out.
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January 16, 2012 9:36am
immigant

Pete George

please just stop it
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January 16, 2012 9:38am
Pete George

immigant – it’s up to all of us to try and find ways to stop it. I’m doing a little to try and help stop it, but it’s not something that can be stopped quickly or simply.

Should we ban boxing, so beating people in the head isn’t promoted and glorified so openly? And violence in movies and games?

Or do it via education (including on blogs) and pointing out the bleeding obvious, and work on convincing more people that there’s nothing entertaining in injuring and killing people, even in ‘fun’.
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January 16, 2012 9:49am
immigant

PG

What I mean is stop saying things like “It may have been accidental”
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January 16, 2012 9:53am
labours a joke

How about locking up the child killers and throwing away the key? Let them rot and die in ( hotel ) prison. Yes I am quite happy to pay more in tax to meet the cost of keeping these scum out of society. Preferably I would rather execute them but that will never happen here in my life time.
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January 16, 2012 9:56am
Longknives

And the award for dumbest comment of 2012 (so far) goes to…..

“Should we ban boxing, so beating people in the head isn’t promoted and glorified so openly?”

I rather we ban (ie stop paying for) illiterate, uneducated and unemployable teenagers spitting out kids as fast as you can say “Feral Underclass” so they can collect more ‘bennie’ from WINZ…
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January 16, 2012 9:56am
Pete George

I didn’t say anything like “it may have been accidental”. It’s obvious the police have cause to believe it wasn’t:

A post-mortem examination revealed the cause of death to be a head injury which police do not consider to be accidental.

They also warn against what is happening here.

The officer leading the inquiry, Detective Senior Sergeant Neil Forlong, said people should not “leap to conclusions and start pointing the finger prematurely”.

“We fully acknowledge the sensitivities of cases such as this and it is important that people do not leap to conclusions and start pointing fingers prematurely,” he said.

It’s ominous, but the whole story is far from obvious – especially who might be responsible.
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January 16, 2012 10:01am
Viking2

New Word in the English language

Could not find it in Websters.

Googled and discovered it is a recently “coined” new word, found on a T-shirt on eBay.
Getting really close to the bone!

This word will become a recognized English word to describe our current political situation.
Read this one over slowly and absorb the facts that are totally within this sentence!
“Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) – a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers”.

Sounds like politics in NZ.
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January 16, 2012 10:12am
mikenmild

Don’t be silly Pete. This is a blog – the comments facility is all about jumping to conclusions.
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January 16, 2012 10:13am
Manolo

P.G., you’re a master at tiptoeing, at avoiding stating the obvious and speaking the truth for fear of offending others. Politically correct to the hilt.

The ideal fit for UnitedFuture, I guess. 🙂
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January 16, 2012 10:18am
Pete George

Manolo – there’s nothing PC and avoiding offending about pointing out the potential problems of general glorifying of violence. I’m not serious about trying to ban it, but I think as a society we need to think far more seriously about the contradiction of the glorification and trivialisation of violence and the levels of violence in our society.

Look at the SBW fiascos, where his self glory seeking is being aided and abetted by a ‘sport’ and by our major sports broadcaster who are prepared to put up any human punching bag they can find.

Boxing is not a Maori issue, but promoting and supporting the SBW farces risks promoting and approving (including to Maori people) that smacking people in the head for personal gratification is somehow ok.
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January 16, 2012 10:41am
joana

Great posts Hj.
Both main parties have accepted Chinese money no questions asked. Thru the latter part of last year , I was asked to help a family who were very unhappy with a corrupt section of the Justice system…Judges breaking the law etc..This situation is still unresolved but a female judge is doing all she can to have it swept under the carpet..The no corruption thing is just another myth..When I first moved to CHCH about eight years ago . I was told developers ”paid money” to get what they wanted from the CCC. There was also corruption involved when the Mosque was built here.
Quite a number of years back , a departing American diplomat , described NZ as ”a dirty little country.” Who knows what he had seen and heard in Wgtn?
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January 16, 2012 10:44am
Longknives

Don’t like boxing then Pete?
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January 16, 2012 10:45am
Longknives

Don’t watch UFC or MMA then Pete- they’re much more violent.
Also, we might wan’t to ban Ice Hockey and American Football. Hell, even our own ‘Saintly’ All Blacks have been known to engage in the odd knee to the head and spear tackle from time to time…best we ban all contact sports eh?? That’ll solve the problem of Maori bashing their kids to death at an abhorrent rate…
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January 16, 2012 10:47am
Pete George

I’m not a fan of an activity where brain damage is the primary aim.

I think contact sports are an important part of society, an opportunity to match strength and wits in a physical contest can be a very good (especially male) outlet and good entertainment – as long as deliberate violent attacks on opposing players is kept out of it.

I know some people watch sports in the hope they will see deliberate violence and injury, and sports broadcasters often play to that as far as they can get away with it, but it’s hardly surprising that while that aspect continues in the public spotlight we also continue to have a violent society.

Restraint from nastiness and deliberately inflicting injuries should be a key part of contact sports – and should also be an important aspect of relationships and family life.
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January 16, 2012 10:58am
labours a joke

“Restraint from nastiness and deliberately inflicting injuries should be a key part of contact sports”

I get the feeling a verse of kum-ba-ya is on its way…
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January 16, 2012 11:17am
Manolo

Lets recite some Buddhist chant, while be burn some incense and listen to Enya at the same time.
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January 16, 2012 11:25am
Weihana

Boxing causes violent crime? Any actual evidence? Or is the argument simply that boxing is violent therefore boxing causes violent crime. Looks like a non sequitur to me.
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January 16, 2012 11:43am
dime

another little maori kid has been beaten to death?

what the hell is going on
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January 16, 2012 11:59am
dime

pete – the aim of MMA is not to inflict brain damage. educate yourself a bit, you sound like a moron when you say things like that.
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January 16, 2012 11:59am
Say Goodbye to Hollywood

The real truth about the Rena & Waihi Beach….gripping.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p9aqNjAFYs&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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January 16, 2012 12:00pm
joana

Give PG a break.
Before the Dept of Maori Affairs was disestablished , the child abuse rate for Maori and European children was the same. Just more negative funding. This country does a great job of that. Why have a great govt dept like the Dept of Maori Affairs when you can have overflowing prisons?
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January 16, 2012 12:14pm
dime

joana – forgive me for wanting to see some proof of that…
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January 16, 2012 12:17pm
Elaycee

“Boxing causes violent crime?”

Of course not. Anyone who ever looked at the efforts and outcomes of Billy Graham’s Academy for kids in Naenae (Lower Hutt) would have to accept that boxing (in his case) has been used as a catalyst to actually reduce crime.

And its working great!

http://www.nzawards.org.nz/AwardRecipients/LocalHeroes/tabid/36011/Default.aspx
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January 16, 2012 12:22pm
cha

@ dime. Seems MMA is actually safer than boxing.

http://www.neatorama.com/2010/07/04/bare-knuckle-boxing-is-actually-safer-than-using-gloves/

http://www.overcomingbias.com/2010/07/blood-on-our-hands.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/muhammad-ali-vs-bruce-lee-who-would-win-and-other-sporting-questions-767122.html
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January 16, 2012 12:25pm
Longknives

Just to rile Pete up-

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/6263651/Alis-birthday-warms-hearts-across-the-globe

How dare people celebrate his birthday when Ali (As boxing’s greatest ambassador) is heavily responsible for Maori in NZ bashing their kids to death??
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January 16, 2012 12:30pm
cha

The best ever, Roy Jones Jr.
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January 16, 2012 12:37pm
AlphaKiwi

Interesting generational difference on being green.

http://tinyurl.com/6uq38bg
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January 16, 2012 12:37pm
Pete George

would have to accept that boxing (in his case) has been used as a catalyst to actually reduce crime.

I don’t doubt that – but the sort of people that will get involved in sports are not the biggest problem.

I’m more concerned about non-sporting people seeing violence in sport of TV – and the worst examples are often highlighted and replayed and replayed, and some sports jocks relish talking them up – and those who have grown up with and learnt violence as a way of life have their damaging behaviour reinforced.
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January 16, 2012 12:45pm
Pete George

Ali (As boxing’s greatest ambassador)

Do you mean that great peace loving Muslim?

Ali was diagnosed with Parkinson’s syndrome in 1984, a disease to which those subject to severe head trauma, such as boxers, are many times more susceptible than average.
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January 16, 2012 12:50pm
Paulus

joana

Facts please, not unsubstantiated innuendo.
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January 16, 2012 1:03pm
dime

cha – MMA is safe. They wear gloves too!

The UFC is the big organisation. There has never been a death.

Fights get stopped when they should. Any injuries lead to medical suspensions.

Its not just about hitting people in the head either. Thats the joy of it. submissions play a big part.

Its full contact, there are injuries obviously but its not barbaric.

As for who wins in a fight between a boxer and a mixed martial artist… it aint the boxer 😛

The last big name boxer to compete in MMA was James Toney – a record of 73 wins out of 80 or so fights… He foight Randy Couture. Randy took him to the ground and submitted him in 3 minutes.
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January 16, 2012 1:12pm
Pete George

If there is a far smaller proportion of blows to the head then MMA is going to be proportionally safer than boxing – but there are a couple of deaths reported. Not surprisingly both were due to blows to the head.

Dementia pugilistica “is thought to affect around 15-20% of professional boxers” – that’s a high risk rate.

Presumably the odds will be much better for Dementia Multimartialistica, being a much more varied contest.
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January 16, 2012 1:30pm
Longknives

Dime- Weak example, James Toney was well into his 40s and retired as a boxer when he went into MMA.
No ‘Big name boxers’ have ever actually competed in MMA. Probably because the money is so much better in boxing (as the scale and magnitude of the sport is infinitely larger)…
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January 16, 2012 1:34pm
Pauleastbay

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/ct-spt-0115-mma-jeff-dunbar-paralyzed–20120115,0,2139670.story

Injuries in all sports
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January 16, 2012 1:39pm
dime

longknives – randy was 48 at the time too!

in the next 20 years, MMA will surpass boxing.

A high level boxer has a punchers chance. If he can clip the MMA fighter as he shoots in. Thats about it. Once it goes to the ground the boxer has the same chance as any other person who isnt a wrestler or martial artist.

Put one of the klitschko’s against Alistair Overeem and chances are they are toast.

Its a silly argument anyway. Boxing is a great sport. Its just different. Boxers are masters on one skill. MMA guys are very good at many skills.
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January 16, 2012 1:49pm
backster

P.G……..You must be a young fella. Boxing has historically been called the Gentle Art and used by generations of Social Workers to rehabilitate violent young offenders, probably none of whom went on to bash babies.
The on-going brutality against infants is caused by successive Governments sponsoring breeding as a lifestyle, they know it, Social Fraternities know it, Iwi know it, none are game to confront the issue instead they try to obscure it by inviting all the diverse sectors and individuals of this nation to share the blame for what is an overwhelmingly Maori problem.
As for the Police in this case they have stated they can’t do anything until the Tangi is over, They don’t know where the child was living. The parents are co-operating.(Don’t say before or after the Tangi or whether they knew where the child was living). AS you say lets wait until the facts become clearer, some things take a little time like Mainland Cheese.
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January 16, 2012 2:11pm
Longknives

“in the next 20 years, MMA will surpass boxing.”

I remember having this same argument when I was flatting with a UFC nut at University watching Gracie take on Shamrock- It ain’t happened yet and that was nearly 20 years ago!!
I don’t know why UFC and MMA fans have such a huge chip on their shoulder about boxing. Why can’t people just enjoy both sports?

“Once it goes to the ground the boxer has the same chance as any other person who isnt a wrestler or martial artist”
“Put one of the klitschko’s against Alistair Overeem and chances are they are toast”

And how would Overreem go ‘toe to toe’ in a boxing match against Vitali? Why even attempt to make such comparisons?
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January 16, 2012 2:23pm
big bruv

Dime

Do you not think that MMA is not much more than a homo erotic wrestle?

They stand for about 30 seconds then end up on the ground groping each other.

IMHO it is a boring as hell.
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January 16, 2012 2:32pm
immigant

MMA has more pelvic thrusting and wraping of legs around teh other guy’s waist. So yeah quite homoerotic.
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January 16, 2012 2:48pm
dime

Longknives – that was my point. silly comparisons. Different sports. But the old bruce lee v ali question came up. In a street fight the MMA guy wins imho. Of course the boxer is going to win in a boxing match.

Gracie v Shamrock – UFC 5?? Its come a long way since then mate. The current owners have had it 10 years. They have gone from losing millions to turning it into a billion dollar company.

They have just signed their first network tv deal in the US with fox. Major UFC events on at primetime. Its worth $100 million a year. Their PPVs hover anywhere between 500,000 to 1,000,000 and they have 14 a year. I think they do more PPV business than anyone else.

More importantly, the number of kids doing MMA is insane.

Its going to be a huge sport.

Bruv – an uninformed opnion as expected 🙂
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January 16, 2012 2:49pm
dime

check out this UFC groping from yesterday in Brazil.

amazing knock out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvGrwGF1MvY
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January 16, 2012 2:53pm
Scott Chris

Pfft! MMA is only one step away from WWF.

Doesn’t surprise me that dime likes it though.
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January 16, 2012 3:41pm
Manolo

A beast blown away: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/01/15/pakistan-taliban-leader-reportedly-killed-in-us-drone-strike/
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January 16, 2012 4:04pm
dime

chrissy – what a stupid thing to say.

MMA is overseen by the same comissions who look after boxing.

no doubt youre a big netball fan, being a girl.
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January 16, 2012 4:33pm
calendar girl

Another innocent baby is dead, probably from non-accidental head injuries.

And the issue has been trivialised here by a debate / allegation about boxing being a cause of such unspeakable violence.

Sometimes one gets the feeling that we New Zealanders are losing our grip on reality. That’s certainly so in respect of what constitutes true evil.
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January 16, 2012 4:50pm
mikenmild

um, this is a general debate so there’s no need for it to remain on one topic…
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January 16, 2012 4:54pm
RightNow

They say its ok for kids to pick their nose and eat the boogers as it helps build up their immune system.

Gordon Brown shows how it’s done:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VaP1HB7Vew&feature=player_embedded#!
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January 16, 2012 5:02pm
calendar girl

MM: it was in relation to the baby’s likely “non-accidental” death that the influence of boxing was raised. Boxing was not introduced as a completely different topic. You appear to have a comprehension problem ….
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January 16, 2012 5:30pm
Manolo

The beastly Rotorua shoplifters have been charged: http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/auckland/news/nbcri/1890229298-Three-women-in-court-charged-with-assault
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January 16, 2012 5:47pm
big bruv

Dime

When it comes to a street fight the winner will always be the one who adopts the Chopper Reid approach.

Bang..bang.
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January 16, 2012 5:55pm
Scott Chris

Calendar Girl’s remonstrance of our callous digression put me in mind of this 5 second Simpsons clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh2sWSVRrmo

Speaking of reality, here’s a description of the relative size of the largest star yet discovered compared to our own sun:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4iD-9GSW-0&feature=endscreen&NR=1

(only 90 seconds long)
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January 16, 2012 6:08pm
transmogrifier

What the fuck? TV3 covers the death of the triplet in Wanganui, and who gets most of the coverage? Some woman explaining how difficult it is to cope with multiple births. I simply cannot comprehend this slant – why the fuck would you try to defend or explain away child abuse? The whole segment was all “It creates more stress and a loss of income and the parents need support” fucking bullshit. IT DOES NOT EXCUSE MURDERING ONE OF THEM. What a fucking joke.
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January 16, 2012 6:23pm
joana

Dime
re abuse stats..I read that some time ago..You could look it up somewhere.
Paulus
Why would anyone puts ”facts” on here re corruption etc.? People who are capable of corruption are capable of a lot of other things. Have you not heard of all the mysterious car crashes in NZ? That may well be my fate one day but I am not quite ready for it yet. Even the most far out , sometimes scary people issue deep , sincere , heartfelt warnings when anyone wants to make some kind of noise about judges in NZ. You seem to be rather naive. Perhaps you are young.
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January 16, 2012 7:06pm
mikenmild

Well, the rate of unexplained deaths among those who comment on blogs must be ppretty high, judging by the far-out accusation one reads here.
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January 16, 2012 7:13pm
bhudson

joana,

Do you believe that the Twin Towers in Manhattan collapsed as a result of being struck by jet airliners, piloted by al Qaeda operatives?
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January 16, 2012 7:22pm
Pauleastbay

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/9016769/Cruise-disaster-Captain-neared-Italian-rocks-to-greet-friend-on-shore.html

This is just awesome, swings the boat into the rocks to show off to a mate.

Owners of the wrecked Costa Concordia cruise ship said “preliminary indications” suggested the captain may have been guilty of “significant human error”.

Clearly the understatement of 2012 thus far
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January 16, 2012 7:23pm
Tauhei Notts

Transmogrifyer
I’m an old right wing reactionary but I can assure you that parents of twins and triplets, particularly if they have another pre schooler, need help.
Thirty years ago, when I was developing a professional practice, and our boy was three years old, our twins arrived. It was extremely tough on the missus. Yes, we did get some help for the first four weeks the children were home, and it was gratefully received. Our’s would not be a caring society if we did not extend help to families in that situation.
That was late 1981, so last month we went to the thirtieth birthday of one of the twins where she is employed in Barcelona. I got my pocket picked twice in that shit hole.
The Multiple Births Society is a worthy charity.
But to use multiple births as an excuse for beating an infant’s brains out is not even animalistic. Feral animals do not behave like that with their young.
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January 16, 2012 7:57pm
Viking2

However, Greens co-leader Russel Norman did not accept Mr Heatley and Mr Baker’s assurances that environmental protections would not be weakened under Crown Minerals Act amendments.

“The Government’s made no bones about the fact their economic strategy involves more short-term extractive industries.”

The changes to the Crown Minerals Act were not discussed during talks late last year when Prime Minister John Key sounded the Greens’ co-leaders out on the possibility of a more formal political relationship.

Oh dear Wuzzell, would you like to sit on Nanny’s lap and have a wee cry?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10778983
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January 16, 2012 8:00pm
Pauleastbay

A Maori goes for a job at sea. The captain says “Have you had any experience away at sea?” “No” says the Maori “But I’m honest!” The captain takes him on and off they sail.

After three weeks at sea the Maori guy is busy mopping the decks, when a big wave crashes over the bows and sweeps him overboard. The 1st mate goes running to the captain, “You know the Maori guy we took on… the one who said he was honest…? Well he has just fucked off with your mop!”
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January 16, 2012 8:03pm
nasska

A famous art collector is walking through the city
when he notices a mangy cat lapping milk from a
saucer in the doorway of a store and he does a
double take. He recognizes that the saucer is
extremely old and very valuable, so he walks casually
into the store and offers to buy the cat for two dollars.
The store owner replies “I’m sorry, but the cat isn’t for
sale.”

The collector says, “Please, I need a hungry cat
around the house to catch mice. I’ll pay you twenty
dollars for that cat.”

The owner says, “Sold,” and hands over the cat.
The collector continues, “Hey, for the twenty bucks I
wonder if you could throw in that old saucer. The
cat’s used to it and it’ll save me from having to get a
dish.”

And the owner says, “Sorry mate, but that’s my lucky
saucer. So far this week, I’ve sold sixty-eight stray
cats.”
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January 16, 2012 8:03pm
pdm

I wonder if you had seen this one before:

1 1 was a racehorse
2 2 was 1 2
1 1 1 1 race
2 2 1 1 2
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January 16, 2012 8:26pm
cha

Super slow motion Teahupo’o.

If you’ve got the connection speed, hi-definition

About the video (source: MPORA.COM)
“This day at Teahupoo- Aug 27th 2011 during the Billabong Pro waiting period is what many are calling the biggest and gnarliest Teahupoo ever ridden. Chris Bryan was fortunate enough to be there working for Billabong on a day that will go down in the history of big wave surfing. The French Navy labeled this day a double code red prohibiting and threatening to arrest anyone that entered the water. Kelly Slater described the day by saying “witnessing this was a draining feeling being terrified for other people’s lives all day long, it’s life or death. Letting go of that rope one time can change your life and not many people will ever experience that in their life.”
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January 16, 2012 8:46pm
nasska

Kathy’s wedding turned out to be a real family reunion.
Even her weird cousin Sean from Christchurch showed up.
There were too many people to fit into the little church, and
since it was snowing and raining and blowing quite
ferociously, a last minute decision was made to hold the
ceremony in the community hall across the street.

A priest was ready in his ornate surplice and cassock
ready to lead the march into the hall and begin
the ceremony. He was carrying a briefcase with his books
and paraphernalia and he was swinging the incense pot
which had smoke coming from it.

Sean was seen sidling up to the priest and saying:
“Darling, I love your dress, but did you know that your
purse is on fire!”
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January 16, 2012 8:52pm
transmogrifier

Tauhei Notts – yeah, I wasn’t debating the idea that twins and triplets are tough to raise. That’s understandable. I’m just pissed off that a day after a triplet gets beaten to death, the mainstream media are already trotting out possible “reasons” for the death, and to portray the perpetrator as a victim of sorts themselves.
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January 16, 2012 8:56pm
cha

Huntsman out, backing the perfectly lubricated weather vane.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204555904577163624064409552.html

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/28/huntsman-romneys-a-perfectly-lubricated-weathervane/
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January 16, 2012 9:00pm
Scott Chris

cha

Awesome footage. The waves are magnificent. The surfers are insane.
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January 16, 2012 9:23pm
Viking2

The day the Duck got screwed.

http://screencast.com/t/Gc2Tyzqc
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January 16, 2012 9:47pm
Viking2

Shipping,banks and Europe.

http://screencast.com/t/ANHb9ZbUSoW
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January 17, 2012 6:57am
Viking2

More good News for white Kiwi’s.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/environment/news/article.cfm?c_id=39&objectid=10778981
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January 17, 2012 6:59am
Manolo

One less candidate. Romney gets his endorsement: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0112/71475.html
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January 17, 2012 7:12am

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