General Debate 12 January 2012

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wreck1080

“Police have confirmed children, some aged under 10, have been roaming Featherston, committing crimes and abusing people.

Sergeant Kevin Basher said the problem started about six months ago, when a core of three or four troublemakers, with as many as 15 others, began a campaign of crime – lighting fires, stealing, damaging cars, shops and houses and abusing people in the street.”

So, what is their solution….

“It all comes back to parental control. We are taking a holistic approach, looking at the families and into such things as whether these kids are getting three meals a day, have a bed to sleep in with clean sheets.”

Ha ha ha ha ha ha, yes, encourage the young crims. Whatever happened to punishment?
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January 12, 2012 8:06am
AlphaKiwi

DPF, it looks like the Standard has their knickers in a twist over you. 🙂

http://thestandard.org.nz/poal-dpf-and-the-politics-of-envy/
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January 12, 2012 8:15am
Manolo

Thank you, AlphaKiwi’s. From that link:

Thing is, despite my taxes paying for David’s fancy lifestyle and his general lack of value to the economy, I don’t envy him his wealth and I’ve no interest in seeing his income reduced.

IrishBill, the hopeless communist, is also an accomplished liar. From miles away you can tell the poor bugger is green with envy.
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January 12, 2012 8:27am
immigant

Jews 1 – Ahmabinadtowelhead 0

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/middle-east/6243520/Iranian-scientist-killed-in-bomb-attack
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January 12, 2012 8:32am
Scott Chris

Another Iranian Nuclear Scientist Assassinated:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/middle-east/6243520/Iranian-scientist-killed-in-bomb-attack

~Gosh, this will achieve peace in the middle east. Nice one Mossad… or SAVAK…. doesn’t matter which. You’re all assholes.~

And Rick Santorum approves of these extra-judicial murders. ~What a guy!~
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Jon Stewart discusses Ron Paul with Judge Andrew Napolitano a couple of days ago:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-january-10-2012/andrew-napolitano
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January 12, 2012 8:39am
Manolo

A drunkard’s revenge: http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20120111obama_uncle_seeks_police_officers_driving_record/srvc=home%26position=4
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January 12, 2012 8:44am
jaba

I see Obama is introducing INSOURCING to reverse the OUTSOURCING trend to bring jobs back to the US. Will over tax breaks to companies that comply and hit those who don’t
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January 12, 2012 8:45am
immigant

Ha beat you to it Scott Chris, you must have been drafting your letter of condolence to Iran. When will you check your pants for some balls and actualy take sides with people who are protecting your way of life?
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January 12, 2012 8:48am
jaba

i also see Japan has a population problem. Their young folk have given up shagging. They interviewed 1 bloke who said realtionships are too difficult and that he would have to give up his weekends if he got a girlfrind. The woman are also, it appears, becoming stronger and more independant .. oh well
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January 12, 2012 8:50am
Other_Andy

@immigant-SC

First of all, it is standard practice, when anything happens, in the ME to blame the Jews-Zionists-Israel so don’t take this at face value.

That doesn’t mean that Israel is not involved.
However, there are a lot of other parties that are ‘unhappy’ with the Iranian regime.
1. Russia. Although a supporter (Oil), it is unhappy with Irans nuclear ambitions.
2. Israel. They take the regime’s threats seriously.
3. US. They are ‘unhappy’ with Irans nuclear ambitions (among other things).
4. Saudi Arabia. Power struggle Shiite-Sunni rivalry.

Then there is also an internal struggle going on.
1. The ‘Green movement’. Probably supported by some of the 4 above.
2. The tension, power-struggle between the military and the basji.
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January 12, 2012 8:52am
immigant

Off to Japan for me then :). I will drop a demographic bomb that will make Hirishima look like a sparkler pop in comparison.
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January 12, 2012 8:52am
immigant

Other_Andy

Thank you for pointing out the obvious. I do realise that what is reported inthe papers is not what is actualy going on. Plus when a prominent Arab scientist is sent to meet 70 virgins, there is probably a lot more clock and dagger going on and more parties involved then you can shake a stcik of dynomite at.

But thanks for treating my satire like I’m a 12yearold.
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January 12, 2012 8:54am
Brian Smaller

@Scott Chris. Perhaps Israel is assinating these scientists and blowing up nuclear research facilities – but why shouldn’t they? The Iranian regime is making no bones about the fact that when their weapons are operational that Israel will get toasted. Maybe it is all piss and vinegar, but when you have a regime with an apocalyptic vision for the future perhaps taking them at their word is prudent. Frankly, Iran as it is ruled now is a good reason for the doctrine of the Pre-emptive Strike.

@immigant – I think you will find the dead scientist is Persian, not Arab, but the virgin thing still applies.
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January 12, 2012 9:03am
big bruv

Speaking of people getting their knickers in a twist…..

http://www.nzwomansweekly.co.nz/system/latest-issue/tamati-coffey-and-tim-smiths-wild-wedding/story/4106672/

It seems that the religious nutbars and bigots are up in arms about the womans weekly posting a picture of Tamati Coffey and his partner on the front page of the magazine celebrating their ‘wedding”.
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January 12, 2012 9:20am
Other_Andy

immigant

“But thanks for treating my satire like I’m a 12 year old.”

You forgot the /sarc on and /sarc off tags.
You would be surprised (maybe not) to know how many ‘bloggers’ take this cr@p seriously.
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January 12, 2012 9:20am
BeaB

Interesting that The Standard sees contractors like DPF’s company as ‘taxpayer funded’. I guess you could say this in the broadest sense but taxpayer funded generally means you would not exist without government support and subsidies, not that you are selling a service or goods to the government.
I think all commentators, whatever their politics, should strive to be accurate and to use words with care. For instance, it is unfair and mischievous to suggest the millions spent on judges is for junkets. Most of the costs are involved in the legitimate travel expenses of circuit judges, a very important part of our justice system. The expenditure is less therefore on judges than on the administration of the courts.
As for Sian Elias taking her husband on approved trips. It is a worry when we expect people in high places to foot the bill themselves for legitimate expenses. I suspect John Key has set a difficult precedent for future PMs by not taking his salary. In the remote chance that Shearer might last long enough to become PM, his family trusts, properties and UN pension might be more than enough to support him without taking a salary from the taxpayer.
The media could be more helpful and more truthful. As a taxpayer, I accept there are a lot of things we just have to pay for, like it or not.
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January 12, 2012 10:02am
grumpyoldhori

Other_Andy Israel will do fuck all about the Persians having instant sunshine, nor will the yanks in case the buggers already have nukes assembled.

Hey Israel wanted to play big boys games now they are whining that only a Jewish state should have the right to nukes in the Middle East
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January 12, 2012 10:03am
dime

Course, Isreal doesnt go around telling everyone they will use their nukes at the first opportunity.

Im not convinced Iran will get nukes. I think there will be a joint israeli/ yank strike.

Obama will want to show some balls leading up to the election.

If Tehran close the straight, the yanks will bomb the shit out of them 🙂
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January 12, 2012 10:09am
hj

“A decision to sign two key government agencies to a long-term lease near Christchurch’s airport makes a mockery of the plan to rebuild the central city, Labour says.”
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10778046

This would fit with the libertarian pressure from nationals right who want a laissez- fare approach to urban planning combined with a free flow of capital and “the right” (cashed up- we don’t care how you got it) immigrants.

http://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/57226/all-productivity-commission-needed-say-its-housing-affordability-report-quit-whining-a
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January 12, 2012 10:22am
Dazzaman

wreck1080……Sgt Basher needs to live up to his name.
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January 12, 2012 10:38am
grumpyoldhori

dime bombing Iran will not stop them, the Iranians will still have the enriched uranium.
Nope the only way will be a invasion of the willing, and I can see the Israelis yelling onward Christian soldiers as the yanks get drawn into a country that is a bloody sight larger than Iraq.
Ah well, plenty of hard working xtian whites who are bitter to join a new crusade.
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January 12, 2012 10:45am
Dazzaman

~Gosh, this will achieve peace in the middle east. Nice one Mossad… or SAVAK…. doesn’t matter which. You’re all assholes.~

And Rick Santorum approves of these extra-judicial murders. ~What a guy!~

In spite of your indignation and naivety…… assassination is still a viable “diplomatic” weapon.

Nice John Campbell impersonation though….
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January 12, 2012 10:48am
Scott Chris

Brian and Andy – The Iranian regime only survives because it is given ammunition by the West to demonize the West. That is the whole point. The West is nurturing a victim mentality in Iranians. If they really wanted to protect the freedom of their citizens, they would seek detente, not war.
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And as for blaming Israel for assassinating the scientists – I didn’t, although it is likely Mossad is behind the killings.

But if a scientist showed signs of defecting to the west, it would also be in the Iranian authorities interests to murder him in a way that looked like Mossad did it. It’s an assholes game.
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January 12, 2012 10:51am
Tauhei Notts

Immigrant at 8.32;
The correct score was
Ahmabinadtowelhead 0 Israel 1
That is because Israel were playing away from home.
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January 12, 2012 10:53am
dime

Grumpy – the yanks wont invade. they will just take out Irans defenses. an aerial campaign. it might only last a week.

I wonder how many of the GBU-57 bunker busters the yanks have in stock 😀
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January 12, 2012 10:55am
Paulus

If anybody thinks that the US will do anything to actually support Israel if Iran goes feral, think again.
Of course they will “talk” to the corrupt UN Security Council. Look at the new members to see.
Obama will only pontificate, providing he can read this from his teleprompter.
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January 12, 2012 11:06am
Scott Chris

Oops I said SAVAC when I should have said MISIRI in my initial post about the assassinations:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Intelligence_and_National_Security_(Iran)

I was only 33 years out of date. Lol, I wonder if the acronym “MISERY” is a convenient propagandistic translation.
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January 12, 2012 11:22am
Manolo

A modern Marie Antoinette whines and complains: http://harndenblog.dailymail.co.uk/2012/01/michelle-obamas-claim-shes-being-branded-an-angry-black-woman-underlines-white-house-desperation.html
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January 12, 2012 11:42am
mikenmild

Go on, amuse me Manolo. How is Michelle Obama like Marie Antoinette?
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January 12, 2012 11:45am
Manolo

ETS charges passed to the public: http://atwonline.com/news/more-us-airlines-add-ets-surcharge-europe-tickets-0106
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January 12, 2012 12:02pm
Farmerpete

This is not related to anything posted above. I just wanted to say how customer unfriendly and arrogant New World were to radically change their frozen goods aisles (at Fronterra’s urging) just before Christmas. The ailses of the supermarket I shop at were chocker with frustrated shoppers who couldn’t find what they wanted. You now have to look in three places to get your cheese, and the staff can’t find items either! Very dumb PR. Countdown is now coming to Warkworth, and although I don’t particularly go for them I will give them a try. I wonder if New World have any idea of the lifetime value of a customer!
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January 12, 2012 12:03pm
pdm

No change that I noticed at NW Hastings and mrs pdm hasn’t said anything.
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January 12, 2012 1:07pm
Manolo

Not to worry. Labour first and Labour lite now are doing their deadly worst to achieve the same objective:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/blogs/opinion/6244796/Opinion-Time-for-Australia-to-claim-NZ
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January 12, 2012 2:00pm
Manolo

DPF, beware! Maybe the NZSIS is snooping around: http://www.theatlanticwire.com/technology/2012/01/homeland-security-monitoring-drudge-report-new-york-times/47300/
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January 12, 2012 2:06pm
lilman

SHELL is freezing the price of petrol because its out of reach for many consumers and as from next month they will give it away for some age groups,i.e school attendees.Now thats a business model.
Pity about those rich,dirty,polluting,greedy farmers.
Hope the wheels fall off their tractors.(that they purchased with tax breaks and handouts)
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January 12, 2012 2:32pm
plebe

Got to love the maoris,the FIRST???? race
Featherston residents reassured after spate of crimesNewstalk ZB
January 12, 2012, 1:52 pm tweet0EmailPrint

Police are assuring Featherston residents they’re doing all they can to control a group of youths who’ve been causing problems in the Wairarapa town.

A group of children is being blamed for a spate of crimes over the past six months, including vandalism, petty theft and lighting fires.

Some are as young as six-years-old.

Masterton Senior Seargent Warwick Burr says the problems stem from a large family in Featherston, and police are working with CYF to get the children some help.

“While we acknowledge that there is a problem, it’s not a case where a whole community is being terrorised by a small group of juveniles that the police and other organisations cannot do something about.”

Senior Seargent Burr says the teenage ringleaders have been attracting others to the group.
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January 12, 2012 4:35pm
RightNow

Todd McDonald – link please.
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January 12, 2012 4:43pm
plebe

Maoris being maoris,a education video from their????? elders on being a non criminal(mission impossable , there is arse crack shown CAUTIO,N fat exposed

http://youtu.be/rCmmhQdw-0A
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January 12, 2012 4:43pm
DJP6-25

Immigrant 8:32 am. Good news.

cheers

David Prosser
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January 12, 2012 5:03pm
wat dabney

“The Iranian regime only survives because it is given ammunition by the West to demonize the West. That is the whole point.”

So not the fact that it has imprisoned, tortured and murdered anyone and everyone who dared oppose it then. No, the regime survives because of its enviable PR skills.
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January 12, 2012 5:23pm
Steve

Full moon? no, that was Monday althought some would think the full moon lasts a month.
Actually, Black Friday tomorrow.

So I will just watch the morons looking sideways at ladders and running from black cats.
When I am around mirrors break before I enter the room, they are scared
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January 12, 2012 7:44pm
nasska

Muslim Television Guide
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6.00: G-Had TV.
Morning prayers.

8.30: Talitubbies.
Talitubbies say “Eh-oh”. Dipsy and Tinky-Winky repair a Stinger missile launcher.

9.00: Shouts of Praise.
More prayers.

10.00: The Apprentice.
Ten young Muslims complete a variety of tasks each week – one of them will be recruited by prominent Islamist leader Muqtada al-Sadr into a top position in the Mahdi Army.

11.00: Jihad’s Army.
The Kandahar-on-Sea battalion repulse another attack by evil, imperialist, Zionist backed infidels.

12.00: Ready, Steady, Jihad!
Celebrities make lethal devices out of everyday objects.

12.30: Panoramadan.
The programme reports on America’s attempts to take over the world.

13.30: Xena.
Modestly dressed housewife Xena stays at home and does some cooking.

14.00: Only Fools and Camels.
Dhal-Boy offloads some Chinese rocket launchers to Hamas.

14.30: Green Peter.
The total of Kalashnikovs bought by the milk bottle top appeal is revealed.

15.00: Madrasah Challenge.
Two more Islamic colleges meet. Bambah Kaskhain asks the questions. ‘Starter for ten, no praying.’

15.30: I Love 629.
A look back at the events of the year, including the Prophet’s entry into Mecca, and the destruction of pagan idols.

16.00: Question Time.
Members of the public face questions from political and religious leaders.

16.30: Countdown.
Can the American prisoners defuse the bomb in their cell before the timer runs down?

17.00: Koranation Street.
Deirdrie faces execution by stoning for adultery.

17.30: Middle-East Enders.
The entire cast is jailed for unislamic behaviour.

18.00: Holiday.
The team go on pilgrimage to Mecca. Again.

18.30: Top of the Prophets.
Will the Koran be No.1 for the 63,728th week running?

19.00: Who wants to be a Muhajadin?
Mahmoud Tarran asks the questions. Will contestants phone a mullah, go ‘inshallah’, or ask the Islamic council?

20.00: FILM: Shariah’s Angels.
The three burkha-clad sleuths go undercover to expose an evil scheme to educate women.

21.30: Big Brother.
Who will be taken out of the house and executed this week?

22.00: Imam Ted.
Sitcom about three imams who live on a tiny island in the Persian Gulf. This week, Imam Dhuga’il accidentally burns down the mosque, while Imam Jakh is stoned to death for drinking alcohol.

22.30: Shahs in their Eyes.
More hopefuls imitate famous destroyers of the infidel.

Midnight: When Imams Attack.
Amusing footage shot secretly in mosques. The filmers were also secretly shot.

00:.30: The West Bank Show.
Arts programme looking at anti-Israel graffiti art in the occupied territories.

01.30: Bhuffi the Infidel Slayer.

02.00: A book at bedtime.
The Koran. Again.
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