General Debate 30 December 2011

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southtop

bit damp at top of south but nothing major this time yet, just wouldn’t want to be in a tent over night
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December 30, 2011 8:02am
Brian Smaller

Rain has set in here in Mangamahu as well. Been steady but not heavy. At least my water tank will get a decent refresh after a month with hardly a drop falling. Glad I cleaned the gutters out a few weeks back.
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December 30, 2011 8:24am
hmmokrightitis

Ran in to work in town (New Plymouth) this morning, down the Tehenui trail. Pelted down. Absolutely drenched. Looks grey and yuk out the window, have to venture out for breakfast soon.

But I console myself with the fact that my MiL is at our house and Im not 🙂
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December 30, 2011 8:37am
Manolo

The joy of living in a vile theocracy: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/12/29/defiant-iranian-likely-to-face-execution-for-tossing-shoes-at-mahmoud/
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December 30, 2011 8:51am
Pete George

A bit of light rain in Dunedin overnight, we could do with a lot more, it’s been a very dry month here.
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December 30, 2011 8:54am
nasska

hmmokrightitis

You poor bastard….. my (now deceased) MiL was a fearsome harridan who on one of her better days could of sent that well known dragon slayer, St George, running for a change of underwear. Still, even she couldn’t have driven a man to run out of his own home in the rain, without breakfast & seek sanctuary at work.

Sadly, even in an affluent country such as ours, there are still refugees forced to seek shelter where they may.
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December 30, 2011 8:54am
Longknives

I’m still getting over the Boxing Day Test- Just stunned that one of the best batting line-ups ever assembled can get skittled for 169 by this piss weak Austrlalian outfit..
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December 30, 2011 9:35am
hmmokrightitis

@nasska

Thankfully, she isnt harridanic, more prone to opening her gob and providing us all with the wisdom of her experience. Stick her daughter, my darling wife, and her in the same room, and 20 minutes later they will be staring daggers at each other over some slight, real or imagined. Hence running or the bottle…last night it was a lovely Bordeaux 🙂

As for refugee, yes indeed, there are a few of us I fear. Maybe a law that states a MiL shall be put to death the day after her first daughter is married off. We could call it MILF Day – M I’d Like to Fry 🙂
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December 30, 2011 9:36am
Right of way is Way of Right

I had an argument with my Mother in Law once, but when it was over, she came to me on her hands and knees.

Saying “Come out from under that bed and fight like a man!”
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December 30, 2011 9:39am
holysheet

I see in the waikato times this morning that the natives of turangi are ashamed that some of their whanau from the great mongrel mob retirement village (Turangi) have bred such a lowlife that would molest a 5 year old girl. Talk about reaping what you sow.
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December 30, 2011 9:41am
Other_Andy

Whaleoil Awards – Worst List MP

http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2011/12/whaleoil-awards-worst-list-mp/

Just remember, we pay each of them a base salary of $141,800.
I voted for the one with (as listed by herself) with half a BA in History and Anthropology and involved in sewage activism.
Half a BA?
First of all, anybody (And I mean ANYBODY) can do a BA these days. It is far more difficult to get a drivers’ licence.
Secondly, HALF a BA, isn’t that the same as NO BA?
Sewage activism.
Speaks for itself. She is a Green Party member….
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December 30, 2011 9:47am
plebe

The real winners were the bookmakers and the Indian players, not Australia

I’m still getting over the Boxing Day Test- Just stunned that one of the best batting line-ups ever assembled can get skittled for 169 by this piss weak Austrlalian outfit..
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December 30, 2011 9:50am
wreck1080

Tim Hazledine: Greedy warriors of privilege threaten our Decent Society

In my own workplace, the University of Auckland, the vice-chancellor’s annual stipend is $640,000. A decade ago his predecessor’s salary was $360,000.

That is a more than 75 per cent increase in 10 years or about 40 per cent once you adjust for inflation.

At the same time, we, the front-line teaching and research staff of the university, have received about a 10 per cent increase in our rates of pay, adjusted for inflation.

So, is there any objective reason why Professor Stuart McCutcheon, the current vice-chancellor, should be paid 40 per cent more than Dr John Hood earned for doing the same job in 2001, or indeed why Dr Hood should have received an even larger premium over the salary of his distinguished predecessor, Sir Colin Maiden?

Is there any objective reason why vice-chancellors’ pay should have increased in real terms four times more than pay on the shop-floor?

The answer is: no. No objective economic reason justifies these income discrepancies.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10775801
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December 30, 2011 9:56am
wat dabney

“Secondly, HALF a BA, isn’t that the same as NO BA?”

No, it’s actually worse.
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December 30, 2011 9:57am
Scott Chris

Heh “MiL”. Had to look it up. Been a while since I’ve had one. Funnily enough I got on better with her than I did with her daughter.

‘MiL’ has some interesting co-acronyms aside from the much derided Mother-in-law.

Machine Intelligence Laboratory
Military Intelligence Lag
Malfunction Indicator Lamp (on your dashboard to indicate and indicator malfunction)

Also discovered what MiL ILFs and GILFs are….. It’s a sick world out there. Thought up one or two more:

VILF = Vegetables I’d like to fondle and

PILS = Politiicians I’d like to shoot.
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December 30, 2011 9:59am
hmmokrightitis

@wreck1080

Seeing as you have asked and answered to your own satisfaction, I dont expect a response, but will ask nonetheless: What are the growth stats for AU over the same period: students, faculty, courses, $$ income and investment etc etc.
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December 30, 2011 10:00am
Longknives

plebe- Hmmm I’d like to think Tendulkar, Dhoni and co have more fortitude than their dodgy Pakistani neighbours…
Other_Andy- My tertiary qualifications include the much maligned ‘BA’…I actually found the History and Pols papers as challenging as anything I did in the Commerce Department/or Post Graduate study afterwards…(it must be said this was a few years ago though…and at a ‘proper’ University)
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December 30, 2011 10:01am
reid

Isn’t it a shame Sea Shepherd’s chase boat had an accident with a rogue wave and has to return to port.

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Global-News/2011/1229/Sea-Shepherd-anti-whaling-ship-damaged-while-chasing-Japanese-vessel
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December 30, 2011 10:02am
flipper

THREAD CHANGER that can be adapted for a variety of applications:

Conversation Hijackers

Source: Rich Santos

1. Conversation Hijacking
You’ve just finished telling a story about a funny memory. The Conversation Hijacker immediately makes their move: “you think that’s funny, let me tell you this.” The Hijacker doesn’t intend to listen to you, but they expect you to listen to every golden word out of their mouth. They like to top your story and belittle it, while allowing little time for discussion or reaction. Unbalanced conversation dominated by the Hijacker frustrates the hijacker victim(s) and leads to being overlooked on the next guest list.

2. Shameless Self Promotion
You’ll look insecure and like you’re trying too hard if you constantly brag about successes repetitively at every opportunity.

3. Me, Me, Me
He or she broadcasts insignificant stories about their life, but completely forgets to ask the other person about their life. They magnify everything in their own world which shrinks the importance of everything in the other person’s world.

4. My Name is Negativity
Don’t fake positivity but remember that no one wants to spend time with a person who sees life through dark colored glasses.

5. The Non-stop Word Machine
The person you’re with is more likely to remember that you talked too much than the actual content of your conversation. Conversation is about balance.

6. “I Only Read …”
There are gals who only talk about pop culture and guys who only talk sports, but there are also the condescending “smart” types who only talk Russian Literature. Everyone wants an intelligent partner, but they don’t want a preachy person or insecure type who tries to make others feel stupid so they feel more important.

Adapted from 10 Deadly Sins of Conversation by Rich Santos
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December 30, 2011 10:15am
Other_Andy

@wreck1080

The next crash, the ‘education bubble’.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterjreilly/2011/11/02/when-will-the-education-bubble-explode/
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December 30, 2011 10:20am
Akaroa

What’s with these ‘protesters’ – (I won’t use a more appropriate term for them – in the interests of web decorum) – who are fouling up not only Aotea Square in Auckland but now other locations including our local Victoria Park!

What’s the matter with our roll-over-and-stick-it-to-me-again society and the so-called instruments of law and order – by which i mean the Courts and the Police?

Protesters? These people – if I have to dignify them by calling them ‘people’ – are so out of step with mainstream society its mind-blowing.

Why can’t they be manhandled off their slummy ‘camps’ on public property and given the bum’s rush?

Many moons ago – more than i care to remember – I had a passing peripheral role in the establishment and construction of Thor missile bases in the UK. (Before most readers’ time no doubt!)

There were some who disapproved of the establishment of missile bases in England’s green and pleasant land and chose to sit-in to try – (Try? Ha! – ) to disrupt the process.

I’ll go no further than to say that several of them got short shrift from the mainly Irish labouring work-force – whose income was being adversely affect by the attempts to delay and frustrate the work.

I’m not saying we have to resort to similar tactics in this enlightened touchy-feely land of ours, but I bet if ol’ Joe Public or you and I sat down in Aotea Square the forces of law and order would be quickly marshalled to put a stop to THAT malarkey.

If so, why not for these other low-lifes?

Do we have a Mayor in this city – If we do where is his statement of disapproval on behalf of the mainly law abiding citizenry herein?

Roll on the next local elections is what I say!!

Just asking, is all!l
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December 30, 2011 10:31am
Other_Andy

@Longknives

“….it must be said this was a few years ago though…and at a ‘proper’ University..”

Yep, times have changed. Labour’ drive to bring down the elitist university degrees and focus on ‘equality of outcomes’ has resulted in the devaluation of a university degree. Now anybody can do a degree and even finish one but it isn’t worth much anymore. Supply and demand….
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December 30, 2011 10:31am
pollywog

Isn’t it a shame Sea Shepherd’s chase boat had an accident with a rogue wave and has to return to port.

…yeah, that Brigitte Bardot is one sexy slut of a boat.

Don’t quite know what to make of sea shepherd.

Apart from the distracting fun factor of chasing japanese whalers around the southern oceans for a reality TV show, we, according to some, would be better served by Sea Shepherd protesting against the American navy’s sanction to take the lives of 11 million sea mammals, including whales and dolphins, to test their underwater sonar weapons.

MARINE MAMMALS AND OTHER SEA LIFE TO BE DECIMATED

By Rosalind Peterson
August 11, 2009
NewsWithViews.com

The United States Navy will be decimating millions of marine mammals and other aquatic life, each year, for the next five years, under their Warfare Testing Range Complex Expansions in the Atlantic, Pacific, and the Gulf of Mexico. The National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS under NOAA), has already approved the “taking” of marine mammals in more than a dozen Navy Range Warfare Testing Complexes (6), and is preparing to issue another permit for 11.7 millions marine mammals (32 Separate Species), to be decimated along the Northern, California, Oregon and Washington areas of the Pacific Ocean (7).

U.S. Department of Commerce – NOAA (NMFS) Definition: “TAKE” Defined under the MMPA as “harass, hunt, capture, kill or collect, or attempt to harass, hunt, capture, kill or collect.” Defined under the ESA as “to harass, harm, pursue, hunt, shoot, wound, kill, trap, capture, or collect, or to attempt to engage in any such conduct.” Definition: Incidental Taking: An unintentional, but not unexpected taking (12).

http://www.newswithviews.com/Peterson/rosalind118.htm
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December 30, 2011 10:43am
reid

More about those missiles ceased in Finland:

http://www.shoah.org.uk/2011/12/29/breaking-patriot-missiles-seized-sold-to-china-by-israhell-updates/
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December 30, 2011 10:58am
pollywog

…and then there’s the cruel and inhumane practise of shark finning, just to make people feel as though they’re the equal of ancient emperors with their exotic eating habits.

*Over 100,000,000 sharks are killed every year, that’s 190 sharks per minute.
*It is estimated that in 10 years the sharks will be extinct.
*Shark Finning is a global problem.
*Hong Kong is the largest trading centre for shark fins.
*27% of Shark fins are from European sources.

http://www.sharkwater.com/education.htm
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December 30, 2011 11:02am
Scott Chris

flipper

Interesting post. Ironically, the very thing that Rich Santos seeks to describe is what your post effectively does.

In the end people who wish to engage in conversation do so for one primary reason. To garner attention, perhaps to seek validation or to promote a self serving agenda.

But underneath it all is that person’s ego. Why bother otherwise?
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December 30, 2011 11:09am
reid

So Murdoch’s hoping to get away with it for around 100m pounds. What a scum bag.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/murdochs-100m-plan-to-settle-hacking-cases-before-they-get-to-court-6282554.html
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December 30, 2011 11:26am
Manolo

A talented boy! http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/6112225/College-young-gun-a-prodigy
The whanau will claim him, too.
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December 30, 2011 11:27am
Other_Andy

@Reid

Please, don’t link to a website set up by a holocaust denying Nazi supporter.
Sammi Ibrahem is a fan of KKK founder David Duke and Holocaust denier and Hitler apologist Ernst Zundel
The guy who set up the website has published two articles entitled: “Nuremberg – The Crime That Will Not Die” in which describes the Nazis as the world’s martyrs, not villains.
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December 30, 2011 11:33am
pollywog

Just wait til he discovers loose women and crack Manolo.

with that sort of intellect, the dude will be pimpin an dealin large !!!
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December 30, 2011 11:36am
reid

In the end people who wish to engage in conversation do so for one primary reason. To garner attention, perhaps to seek validation or to promote a self serving agenda.

But underneath it all is that person’s ego. Why bother otherwise?

Scott possibly you don’t realise they exist but some people also communicate for altruistic reasons: because they think something is worthwhile communicating to others: you see this in education and parenting all the time. Admittedly on blogs people like Penny probably think they’re doing it for altruistic reasons as well but the tell is whether or not the person is willing to listen to feedback and alter their response accordingly and if they don’t do that by actually altering their response when the feedback is correct and/or justified then one knows that person is simply doing it because of what you say, for egotistical purposes only.

But most of the time on blogs you don’t get this. flipper’s points come up in personal conversations all the time though don’t they. Many of us know well many people who do one or more of those things, all the fucking time.

The worst part is if you call them on being such an a-hole in the first place, it’s you that becomes the bad guy. They’re almost but not quite as bad as lefties, aren’t they. As a matter of fact come to think of it, most of the ones I know are also lefties. Isn’t that interesting.
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December 30, 2011 11:49am
pollywog

Were you abused as a child by a lefty reid, or was mum a lefty and she pulled you off the tit too early ?
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December 30, 2011 11:56am
reid

Please, don’t link to a website set up by a holocaust denying Nazi supporter.

Andy with all due respect I’ll post any link I like and if DPF or one of his editors wishes to delete it that’s their call but unless you’re one of them I’ll respectfully decline your invitation to desist and thanks anyway.

Re: the source, as I’ve said many times, I adopt the simple attitude that I don’t give a shit where the information comes from. Just because for example a news report comes from say Al Jazeera that does not ipso facto means it’s therefore false.

If you don’t understand how deeply Israel has infiltrated domestic US politics and that it actually does in fact do stuff like in that article then you are appallingly ignorant of a significant factor in determining US foreign policy strategy and tactics. Most of the people who are ignorant of this are ignorant because of cognitive dissonance. The way their world works is that Israel is nothing more than an innocent besieged tiny vulnerable nation trying to survive and the only time it ever does anything wrong is because it was forced to – usually by some anti-semetic behaviour by some nation or other. I’m afraid I have very little time for people with a belief structure like this in terms of their ME geopolitical analyses for if they can’t even see the fallacy of their world view on such a fundamental issue as that then they are most unlikely to see what’s going to happen in say Iran. I say this because people with this world view were the very same people who were clamouring in 2002-3 for Iraq to be invaded on the grounds of the fake WMD which they claimed really truly was there. I recall many debates on KiwiPundit over that. As anyone can see they were wrong and I and others of my view were right, yet I bet none of them have changed their world view.

And so it goes. I don’t expect you will change yours either Andy, and that’s fine. Just so long as you know what cognitive dissonance is and what it is preventing you from fully understanding.

Were you abused as a child by a lefty reid, or was mum a lefty and she pulled you off the tit too early ?

No neither of those, pw. Both my parents were conservatives, thank goodness. No I just can’t stand lefty self-righteousness. They truly do think they’re the only people who care about [fill in blank – other people, the planet, etc] and I can’t be arsed giving any time at all to someone who really truly does actually think like that.
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December 30, 2011 12:06pm
Manolo

A sober “Pasifikan” makes news: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/crime/news/article.cfm?c_id=30&objectid=10775890
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December 30, 2011 12:29pm
pollywog

Both my parents were conservatives, thank goodness

ahhhh i see…so you weren’t breast fed at all 😛
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December 30, 2011 1:08pm
reid

Quite a good article on Stuxnet:

http://www.darkgovernment.com/news/what-is-stuxnet/#more-6461

so you weren’t breast fed at all

No that’s sissy stuff pw, to we conservatives.
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December 30, 2011 1:10pm
Other_Andy

@reid

Re: the source, as I’ve said many times, I adopt the simple attitude that I don’t give a shit where the information comes from. Just because for example a news report comes from say Al Jazeera that does not ipso facto means it’s therefore false.

With all due respect, you should give a shit. There are very few sources without bias and we all quote the ones that will suit us best. However, a website that openly denies the holocaust, defends Nazi war criminals, admires Hitler and calls Hitler’s Third Reich the last democratically and properly elected regime in Germany is beyond biased. You might as well quote directly from the Stormfront website. The more biased, the less I trust the source and a neo-fascist source has NO credibility for me, whatever they write.

If you don’t understand how deeply Israel has infiltrated domestic US politics and that it actually does in fact do stuff like in that article then you are appallingly ignorant of a significant factor in determining US foreign policy strategy and tactics. Most of the people who are ignorant of this are ignorant because of cognitive dissonance.

Everybody knows that Israel has a big influence on US foreign policy, similar to the influence of Cuba, Iran and China. Congress representatives, senators and presidents are elected on their views of Israel, Cuba, Iran and China. This is all in the open. What isn’t so much in the open is the influence of Saudi Arabia in US politics.
http://www.arabamericangiving.org/the-importance-of-saudi-arabia-to-the-us-economy.php

The way their world works is that Israel is nothing more than an innocent besieged tiny vulnerable nation trying to survive and the only time it ever does anything wrong is because it was forced to – usually by some anti-semetic behaviour by some nation or other.

I think the facts support most of what you say.

I say this because people with this world view were the very same people who were clamouring in 2002-3 for Iraq to be invaded on the grounds of the fake WMD which they claimed really truly was there. I recall many debates on KiwiPundit over that. As anyone can see they were wrong and I and others of my view were right, yet I bet none of them have changed their world view.

Iraq is an interesting case. Almost everybody agreed that Saddam was a genocidal megalomaniac and that Iraq would be better off without him. Nobody could agree on the cause of action though.
As for WMD, Iraq had them, that is a fact. Did it still have them just before the US invaded? We know now they did not. However Saddam used the allegations as a political card and gave the impression that it still had them to force concessions. Personally, I think we should stay out of Iraq, Afghanistan etc, (Unless they attack other countries). Those conflicts aren’t worth the life of one Kiwi soldier and it won’t change a thing.

Just so long as you know what cognitive dissonance is and what it is preventing you from fully understanding.

Say what?
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December 30, 2011 1:25pm
Griff

cognitive dissonance???

reality / reid
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December 30, 2011 1:29pm
reid

With all due respect, you should give a shit. There are very few sources without bias and we all quote the ones that will suit us best.

Not at all Andy. I don’t care about bias, myself. I look straight through it, I don’t care it it’s religious, political or any other bias I never even see it. That post I gave may or may not be actually true, since no evidence was given we don’t really know, either way. But if you discount that Israel might do something like give missiles to China, then you don’t live in the same geopolitical realm of possibilities that I do. And that’s all it was. A possible further piece in the jigsaw of that developing and interesting story which would never have appeared if the Finnish dock workers hadn’t been on the ball.

I think the facts support most of what you say.

Of course you do Andy for you suffer cognitive dissonance over Israel and the very fact you think the facts support that perspective I was giving actually does in fact mean you have it. Sorry about that but there we are.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

Here’s a more specific explanation of it in terms of how it works for a political phenomena:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGGXae4c3hY
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December 30, 2011 1:41pm
Other_Andy

Of course you do Andy for you suffer cognitive dissonance over Israel and the very fact you think the facts support that perspective I was giving actually does in fact mean you have it. Sorry about that but there we are.

We call that pretzel logic.
No need for a pseudo intelligent retort, the facts will do.
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December 30, 2011 1:50pm
reid

Also gives Bush connections as well. Bush Snr was reportedly behind the BCCI scandal in the 80’s and this dips in Bush Jnr as well.

http://theintelhub.com/2011/12/22/enron-taliban-warburg-the-untold-story/
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December 30, 2011 1:51pm
Manolo

Some peaceful Pasifika, maybe? http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/6202580/Police-attacked-as-family-tensions-boil-over
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December 30, 2011 2:41pm
Falafulu Fisi

Brian Smaller, it’s also raining here in Onemana, which means that I’m on the piss indoor rather than at the beach. I may check out some of the bars in Whangamata (10 minutes away) perhaps sometime in the late afternoon to see if it’s more fun to drink there and check out the locals.
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December 30, 2011 2:48pm
Scott Chris

reid says:- “some people also communicate for altruistic reasons”

I think that genuine compassion and altruism are ultimately self serving emotions/acts. They have evolved in us because ultimately they allow our genes to survive. Biologically speaking, that is the purpose of our being. To pass on our genes as well as our memes.

For my own selfish reasons, I want to see human society and the rest of our environment flourish, primarily because that will make me happy. So I behave accordingly. Well, most of the time….
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December 30, 2011 3:00pm
plebe

Cameron Slater AKA whaleoil is again getting excited about the Auckland ports,(a hint Cameron) Tauranga is unionised but they have a stake in the port, the CEO in Auckland just wants the port to close so the land can be sold,so the rolling disputes will continue, its a shame this has to happen so in the short term it would far cheaper to sack the CEO than 300 plus workers,and get a better managment team.
http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2011/12/time-to-break-the-maritime-union/
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December 30, 2011 3:07pm
pollywog

Pacific nation does the time warp again

Friday, December 30, 2011, is a day no one in Samoa will ever see. Tomorrow, the island nation will skip a day to align its dates with New Zealand.

Samoans will go to sleep tonight on their Thursday, December 29, and wake up on Saturday, December 31

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10775868

we even got a handle on time travel.

Black to the future yo !!!
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December 30, 2011 3:20pm
Nookin

Sometimes you really have to worry about the US legal system!

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/6202916/Train-victim-can-be-sued-over-flying-body-parts
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December 30, 2011 3:34pm
reid

Scott I feel sorry for you if you’re old and you think like that but if you’re young and you think that then I understand.

Top 15 most expensive things – gives an interesting perspective on our priorities:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrFd2O11Pps&feature=related
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December 30, 2011 3:35pm
Manolo

we even got a handle on time travel.

No doubt Einstein was a proud Samoan, Tongan or from some bright and cultured Pasifika island.
Now stop peeing from laughter.
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December 30, 2011 3:39pm
Griff

polly log
you will get to watch the numbers roll on a gps
zigzag the date line and today tomorrow and yesterday can be one
by the way black with a blow wave. ginger and pot are the best for stopping the calls to ralph the sea god
hope you like your whaka trip
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December 30, 2011 3:44pm
Manolo

hope you like your whaka trip

Sorry Griff, but at 145 kilos, polly is far too heavy for a waka. She travels by mule.
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December 30, 2011 3:47pm
pollywog

cheers and thanks for the tip Griff…
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December 30, 2011 3:49pm
Elaycee

BWAV / Pollypad says: “Black to the future yo !!!”

Oh, bollocks. This is Samoa’s attempt at keeping up with the rest of the world – their response was to reinvent their relationship with Greenwich Mean Time and jump 24 hours – somehow thinking that this will make doing business with them a whole lot easier….

Yup, that’ll work….. perhaps they’d like to buy a bridge! And a De Lorean……

Bwahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
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December 30, 2011 3:50pm
Other_Andy

December Missile Update

The victorious and peaceful Palestinians have struck the evil Zionist state 20 times with mortars and rockets this month.
However, the Zionist criminals had the audacity to strike back at the oppressed and righteous Palestinians and kill some of the virtuous martyrs before they were able to fire off more missiles.
We are especially appalled that the Zionist pigs were able to kill seven ~~terrorists,~~ innocent civilians and we weren’t able to kill any Jews this month.
This is a clear breach of several UN declarations and we ask all nations to condemn the Zionist State for these blatant acts of aggression and marksmanship. We also ask the UN to condemn the Zionist state for having the ~~anti-terrorist fence~~ apartheid wall. This makes it impossible for our glorious martyrs to accurately target the Zionists and enter paradise.
We wish all our well-wishers and supporters a happy New Year and want to thank Iran (For training our martyrs and supplying us with ammunition and explosives), the EU, US and UN (For supplying us with millions of dollars so we can continue our fight) and the western left wing (PBUH) anti-~~semites~~Zionists for supporting our honourable struggle.
Allahu Akbar!
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December 30, 2011 3:50pm
nasska

Medium Fawn with Pubic Lice

Many of us who comment on Kiwiblog have a keen interest in helping our fellow men. I have noted recently that more than a few Pacifikan citizens present as being a couple of kina short of a full keti.

In an an attempt to sort out this enigma I’ve been doing some research on the protein component of the diet of your fellow Pasifikans before the arrival of westeners, civilisation & KFC. Refer:http://askville.amazon.com/medical-side-effects-human-cannibalism/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=10668213

As our resident expert on these matters perhaps you could fill in some of the blanks for us?
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December 30, 2011 3:55pm
Other_Andy

“…a couple of kina short of a full keti.”

Thanks for the laugh, priceless!
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December 30, 2011 3:58pm
pollywog

As our resident expert on these matters perhaps you could fill in some of the blanks for us?

dunno eh…i’m a vagitarian

kitty…nom nom nom
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December 30, 2011 4:13pm
Manolo

Wowsers all over the place: http://news.msn.co.nz/nationalnews/8396467/concern-as-punters-splurge-on-lotto
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December 30, 2011 4:17pm
immigant

I’ve been away for 4 days, and just came back. I read last couple of general debates. I can’t believe you guys just sit there and let pollywog insult all of you, openly and totally off topic. You guys are trying to talk to him but he just mocks you all and you still keep talking to him. Laughable.
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December 30, 2011 4:21pm
Other_Andy

Vagitarian?
Take your pick…

From the Urban Dictionary:

vagitarian
A person who’s diet consists of Hair Pie, Bearded Clams and Pink/Fish Tacos

vagitarian
One whose sexual diet consists exclusively of vagina. One who only eats “pussy”. Can be heterosexual male or homosexual female.
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December 30, 2011 4:23pm
nasska

Pallid Brown with Itchy Piles

Fair enough….I’d hate to change your diet although if you don’t adapt you’ll be able to hide behind a fence batten when you step off the waka in Samoa.
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December 30, 2011 4:23pm
Scott Chris

reid says:- “I feel sorry for you if….”

Good example. Do you feel sorry for me for you or do you feel sorry for me for me? If it was the latter, I suggest you wouldn’t have said anything….

BTW, I’m 45, so to the young I’m old and to the old I’m young.
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December 30, 2011 4:43pm
reid

Do you feel sorry for me for you or do you feel sorry for me for me? If it was the latter, I suggest you wouldn’t have said anything.

But it was the latter Scott and I did say something.

How do you explain that?

You guys are trying to talk to him but he just mocks you all and you still keep talking to him. Laughable.

We’re all practicising how to be proper victims immigant. Just in case having said skill comes in handy as the GFC continues to unfold in 2012.
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December 30, 2011 4:46pm
Griff

pooh brown with hair stuck in back of throat
hope u fallers are not using the evil honkey methods to navigate
you know lots of coconuts just drift here on the currents
as did our Polynesian natives
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December 30, 2011 4:57pm
Other_Andy

“hope u fallers are not using the evil honkey methods to navigate”

Or any product derived from those evil hydrocarbons….
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December 30, 2011 5:01pm
Falafulu Fisi

Reid, I shared my numerical Java codes & library/API (application programming interface) with 2 research scientists/engineers from Raytheon Corporation (makers of patriot missiles) since 2006. My API is based on the freely available JAMA which I have extended the original API with more/new mathematical functionalities that were missing. I call my version JAMAX (extended JAMA). There are some individuals in that JAMA email discussion list who are from defense contractors, like Boeing, Raytheon, which you can tell by their emails they use for posting questions into the group (which the group is still active today, despite JAMA not being further developed by the original authors).

My JAMAX library is almost a Java clone (function for function) of the Matlab software (a popular simulation development platform for scientists & engineers), and there’s a reason I’m not releasing my JAMAX into the public on the net? Some of the Matlab codes are ported directly into Java in JAMAX so they should be compatible as much as possible. However, anyone can request a copy of JAMAX from me directly on the condition that he/she won’t release it on the net, because MathWorks (developer of Matlab software product), may view it as a violation of some of their library/codes copyrights. The other conditions is that the user who requested a copy from me, has to use it at his/her own risk and I’ve got nothing to do with it if some application they developed using JAMAX went wrong (causing death or financial loss – etc…). I’ve sent my JAMAX into others as well, those who have directly requested copies from over the years.

Hehe, there’s is no doubt in my mind that the scientists/engineers at Raytheon whom I’ve shared my JAMAX software library with are using it (perhaps modifying my original JAMAX version to make it handle high speed computing as in missiles’ guidance) in their avionics R&D for military hardware. They never told me much of what they’re using the JAMAX for, but I occasionally do get some feedback or updated version of JAMAX sent back to me from Raytheon (bugs) or improved version of my original JAMAX codes. I wouldn’t be surprised in the interest of using Java for military avionics is that Java is becoming popular for development of real-time system software/hardware today. Java will probably replace C, C++ and Ada computer languages at some stage in the near future as the preferred language for avionics development by defense contractors.

Some are highlighted here:

– Appetite for Real-Time Java Climbs in Defense Systems
– Aonix hard-real-time Java technology useful for command and control
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December 30, 2011 5:02pm
reid

Thanks for that Falafulu.

I’ve always regretted NZ doesn’t have a vibrant and strong defence export industry hopefully in all sorts of pointy things but given we’re such a bunch of girly poofters here these days about pointy things I have thought that stuff like defensive radar systems and anti-missile missiles would be an acceptable, if somewhat girly, compromise.

And your information about JAMAX cheers me no end in this. Most appreciated.
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December 30, 2011 5:24pm
Luc Hansen

reid

Indeed.

Although I take minor issue with your terminology. It seems these days “defence” is the preferred euphemism for “warfare”.

Now if we could get nukes into our catalogue we could make a bomb!

Nothing girly about that.
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December 30, 2011 6:21pm
DJP6-25

Other_Andy 3:50 pm. A perfectly accurate summation of the situation.

cheers

David Prosser
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December 30, 2011 6:38pm
reid

Although I take minor issue with your terminology. It seems these days “defence” is the preferred euphemism for “warfare”.

I thought someone would Luc. Crikey. Look.

It we don’t all want to be girly poofters, we have to walk in today’s world as if NZ was some sort of M-16/Grenade Launcher + full multiple criss-crossed bandolier walking UN-compliant Rambo Mofo in support of the ~~entire~~ US/UK security council, FFS.

Otherwise we’ll be attacked by terrorists.

Apparently this is the program lest we be subject to rendition courtesy of the new act Congress has just passed awaiting Obama’s signature.
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December 30, 2011 7:11pm
pollywog

hope u fallers are not using the evil honkey methods to navigate

Or any product derived from those evil hydrocarbons….

oh hell yes, although where possible we check against nature to make sure they’re accurate.

and no, we converted to electric pod motors charged by solar panels.
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December 30, 2011 7:13pm
Steve

Council puts down 27 dogs

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10775930&ref=rss

They missed one from Turangi
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December 30, 2011 7:27pm
nasska

pollywog

Don’t tell us that you Pasifikans have gone all soft cock on us! Isn’t using GPS & the like a little……you know….effete? After all, I bet Kupe wasn’t checking his global position every hour & being wet nursed by radar, SSB radio & depth sounders.

He would have been following a floating coconut while holding on to the sails by his teeth in a Force 10 storm navigating by the stars.
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December 30, 2011 7:36pm
nasska

“Suicide Bombers to go on Strike”

Muslim suicide bombers in Britain are set to begin a three-day strike on Monday in a dispute over the number of virgins they are entitled to in the afterlife. Emergency talks with Al Qaeda have so far failed to produce an agreement.

The unrest began last Tuesday when Al Qaeda announced that the number of virgins a suicide bomber would receive after his death will be cut by 15% this February, from 72 to only 60. The rationale for the cut was the increase in recent years of the number of suicide bombings and a subsequent shortage of virgins in the afterlife.

The suicide bomber’s union, the British Organisation of Occupational Martyrs (BOOM) responded with a statement that this was unacceptable to its members and immediately balloted for strike action.

General Secretary Abdullah Amir told the press, “Our members are literally working themselves to death in the cause of Jihad. We don’t ask for much in return, and to be treated like this is like a kick in the teeth.”

Speaking from his shed in Tipton in the West Midlands, in which he currently resides, the Al Qaeda chief executive explained, “We sympathize with our workers concerns, but Al Qaeda is not in a position to meet their demands. They are simply not accepting the realities of modern-day Jihad in a competitive marketplace.

“Thanks to Western depravity there is now a chronic shortage of virgins in the afterlife. It’s a straight choice between reducing expenditure and laying people off. “I don’t like cutting conditions but I’d hate to have to tell 3,000 of my staff that they won’t be able to blow themselves up.”

Spokespersons for the Union in the north east of England, Ireland, Wales and the entire Australian continent & of course United States and Canada stated that the strike would not affect their operations, as “there are no virgins in their areas anyway.”
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December 30, 2011 8:00pm
jcuk

A good one Nasska … thanks 🙂
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December 30, 2011 8:28pm
reid

Yes nasska, thanks for that.
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December 30, 2011 8:31pm
pollywog

Don’t tell us that you Pasifikans have gone all soft cock on us! Isn’t using GPS & the like a little……you know….effete? After all, I bet Kupe wasn’t checking his global position every hour & being wet nursed by radar, SSB radio & depth sounders.

yeah well a couple hundred years of cultural colonization and mental slavery will do that to a people.

but don’t you worry, we’ll still be eating any unfortunates we come across on the journey and dipping our balls in the waters to read the currents.

of course you wont seeing any of that in the movie either…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UR_nk7ZEKcE
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December 30, 2011 9:13pm
bereal

i haven’t got a lot of time for pollywog and his racist ideas,
but i do agree with him/her on one point. (if i understand him correctly)

There is no such thing as a “Maori race”
There are Maori tribes.

Maori take instruction from their kamatuas, tohungas, Ariki, leaders.
Mana and utu are pivotal for Maori.

Whatever the cause is for the abnormally high level of child abuse amongst Maori
doesn’t matter really, the solution is what matters and it must be found in the guidance from above.
Thats the tribal way.

That is where the answer must come from and untill the leaders the Maori respect themselves
speak out and offer guidance nothing will change.

Rankin (Nga Puhi) has made a start. Where are the others to back him up?

Untill Maori get over the nonsense that,
‘we are all hard done by, we don’t have a chance, all our land was stolen’ bullshit
promulgated by their current “leaders” They can never regain the Mana they deserve and need.

Maori need a leader, the self serving substitutes we see currently are a disgrace.

Such potential. So lost.
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December 30, 2011 9:34pm
pollywog

My ideas aren’t racist bereal and i’m deeply offended you think as much.
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December 30, 2011 9:39pm
Luc Hansen

A couple of points in reply to Bereal, above.

You do understand, don’t you, that European child abuse is still about 25% (11 per 100,000 cf 41) of Maori child abuse – even though we top all the socio-economic tables. That’s still a lot of children (do the maths) being abused by us (according to you) culturally superior Europeans. Where’s your outrage about that? Or is a little child abuse OK, especially for us whities? In fact if you do the maths, which ethnicity actually abuses the most children? Top of my head tells me it’s Europeans. Correct me if I’m wrong.

And why on earth do you attach the word “bullshit” to the fact of our stealing Maori land? And much worse besides, but let’s stick to the land, by all means.
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December 30, 2011 9:53pm
Griff

Its not just child abuse they excel in all kinds of very antisocial behavior
From murder to nepotism
This can not be laid at the feet of modern society else all our other minorities would have similar statistics
They do not
even pollywogs are succeeding in NZ.Their status is improving
why are the Maori not?
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December 30, 2011 10:02pm
pollywog

even pollywogs are succeeding in NZ.Their status is improving
why are the Maori not?

…why do you think they’re not ?
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December 30, 2011 10:26pm
Griff

“Its not just child abuse they excel in all kinds of very antisocial behavior
From murder to nepotism”
50% in prisons
50%oo benefits
road deaths
school leaving age
life expectancy
alcohol/drug addiction
80%of violent child deaths

on and on it goes
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December 30, 2011 10:46pm
reid

on and on it goes

OK Griff so then what are the root causes of this in your view and then what are the solutions?
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December 30, 2011 11:55pm
Griff

sick culture
stamp the sick culture out
leadership not you owe us
we owe you
maorifacation and the treaty bullshit should be stopped it is only adding petrol to the blaze
Reintegrating them into the stone age will help no one
pre contact they had a sick culture encouraging its Renascence does not benefit anyone

if that does not work apartheid
separate the scum from the rest of us
we do not need the ferals in society
if they want to behave like animals
cage them
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