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December 28, 2011 8:00am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 28 December 2011

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Other_Andy

@plebe
Who cares what ‘ethnicity’ he is?
Siuaki Lisiate, Graeme Burton, Raymond Ratima, Jiayi Li…….human scum comes in all colours.
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December 28, 2011 8:48pm
Pauleastbay

.human scum comes in all colours…………….

OA

Two thumbs up.
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December 28, 2011 8:51pm
Nookin

Bevan Smith from Owaka died on Christmas day, aged 60.

Bevan was the father of Kylie who was raped and murdered by Paul David Bailey in 1991. Bailey was on bail for another attempted rape at the time. He was subsequently convicted of raping another young girl in Central in 1989 – 1990.

Every year Bevan and his family would turn up to the parole board to oppose Bailey’s release — successfully, thankfully. His demise is attributed, in part, to the stress of these appearances and the death of his daughter. He had a minor victory in that Bailey has been denied the right to annual applications.

Why does a supposedly civilised society make the victims of crime go through this crap?

http://www.odt.co.nz/regions/south-otago/192476/he-took-it-really-hard-he-struggled-cope

Oh, not that it matters a damn – Bailey is caucasian

http://www.safe-nz.org.nz/sxdb/baileypaul.htm
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December 28, 2011 9:11pm
nasska

reid

Trialing Maori youth crime would be a logical way to go. I still can’t get my head around WHO the clientelle of these Courts will be. A person is allowed to identify as of Maori descent with as little as 1/32 Maori DNA.

Will it be a case of being Maori one week & Pakeha the next depending on who gives the softest sentence for what crime?
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December 28, 2011 9:11pm
dime

16 years old?? WTF???

put it to sleep. It cant be helped.

who gives a fuck what colour/race it is.

I wouldnt assume hes a maori. Lots of white rapists out there. hell, arent the majority of serial killers white dudes?

in other news, merry christmas scumbags. dimes had a great week. i shot my first POV porno this week. I gotta say it came out great! ill let you all know when i upload it to redtube
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December 28, 2011 9:18pm
Other_Andy

I’m happy there is progress towards freedom in the Arab world

They will never be free. Until they free themselves from their self-imposed ideology that keeps them in submission and enslaved.
Their concept of ‘freedom’ and ‘peace’ has very little in common with ours.
And….
Most Middle Eastern countries have been colonised for almost 1400 years now but not by those evil Europeans and Americans.
Ask the Amazigh, Kurds, Turkmen, Copts, Armenians, Chaldeans, Assyrians and Zaghawa.
That is, those who have survived the mass murders, cultural genocide and forced assimilation.
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December 28, 2011 9:32pm
reid

Will it be a case of being Maori one week & Pakeha the next depending on who gives the softest sentence for what crime?

That is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma, nasska.
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December 28, 2011 9:35pm
Manolo

I agree with dime. Race and skin colour are irrelevant facts.
This animal deserves no life. Shoot the bastard!
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December 28, 2011 9:47pm
reid

He’s 16 Manolo.
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December 28, 2011 9:51pm
jonnobanks

dime and manolo, it’s sad to see you guys think this guy is guilty already. If he is, go ahead, but lets say innocent until proven guilty. One of the best things about this country… we are lucky to live in a free country, I am so glad. And don’t start the abuse… just makes you even more sadder.
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December 28, 2011 9:54pm
dime

jonno – of course if hes guilty. goes without saying.

and whos starting abuse? apart from you suggesting we are “sad” lol

reid – yea hes 16. IF HE IS GUILTY (happy?) then he will be out mid-20s and will go on to ruin someone elses life. we dont rehabilitate in this country and even if we did, this guy is wrong in the head and cant be helped. bullet to the back of the head. invoice the family for costs 🙂
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December 28, 2011 10:10pm
jonnobanks

Dime, didn’t abuse you. I said it’s sad you found him guilty already 🙂

It would be worse if this guy wasn’t guilty and the scumbag who is guilty is still out there. The police need to find the person and have been know in the past to make mistakes. Lets hope they have found the person this time and he gets whats coming to him. Being 16 and going to jail, I am sure he wont survive a day.
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December 28, 2011 10:17pm
dime

thats a myth. there arent many prisoner deaths in NZ.

my buddy did 11 years. not one fight. zero grief. he saw sme violence but nothing like youd think
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December 28, 2011 10:19pm
jonnobanks

I am not talking death, but I bet a 16 year old will be shit scared and wont have many friends….

How old was your friend when he went in?
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December 28, 2011 10:24pm
jonnobanks

And if he is guilty, he will be a young pedo, I doubt his fellow inmates will like him.
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December 28, 2011 10:28pm
dime

he was 19. out by 30. apparently he served “life”. disgraceful
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December 28, 2011 10:37pm
Luc Hansen

Andy

Have you ever looked at the history of Europe?

I thought not.

But let me tell you of the time Mahatma Ghandi stepped onto US soil and was immediately asked what he thought of western civilisation.
He replied, “I think that would be a good idea.”

I think his reply is still relevant today.
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December 28, 2011 11:30pm
Mick Mac

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/12/israel_some_basic_facts.html

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/12/origins_of_the_palestinian_identity_1.html

nuff said.
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December 28, 2011 11:47pm
Luc Hansen

americanthinker

with a few exceptions, is an oxymoron.

That site is pure evil.

Fox News on steroids!
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December 28, 2011 11:50pm
Other_Andy

@LH

Have you ever looked at the history of Europe?
Your ‘tu quoque’ reply seems to come up whenever you get stuck.

I thought not.
As part of my degree I studied European history.

I think his reply is still relevant today.
Now I know you see ‘Western’ civilisation and democracy as pure evil, could you enlighten me what your pinnacle of civilisation is. Either your ideal ideology or country will do.
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December 29, 2011 12:20am
Mick Mac

Sorry LUC.
That comment says all it needs about you, your attitude and reliability of info.
thank you.
I’ll RIP you again as you’ve not changed.
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December 29, 2011 12:40am
Manolo

Luc, if you despise the West so much why don’t you move to some enlightened Eastern nation, such as Pakistan?
It would be lovely to receive your unbiased reports from such cultured country.
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December 29, 2011 6:29am
joana

Other Andy…thanks for your great posts.
Luc You are an ignorant fool living in some kind of permanent delusion.
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December 29, 2011 8:59am
KevinH

The attack on the 5 year old reminded me of a similarly repugnant murder in 2007: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10425413 of school teacher Lois Dear in Tokoroa, and had me perplexed as to the motives behind the offenders actions being somewhat spontaneous and brutal. I asked myself the question as to why do offenders do these heinous crimes and get the usual litany of excuses of abuse , broken home etc.
However I could not under any circumstance empathise with the offender and like many on this page would prefer an immediate permanent solution.
Also in the instance of the mass murderer Ratima, I can see no valid reason why this man should be released, his crime was extreme therefore his incarceration should be likewise, permanent.
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