General Debate 16 October 2011

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MyNameIsJack

Good Morning, John Key.

So, where is your plan for the next 20 years?

Oh, you don’t have one.

What about 10 years?

5 Years?

Stop fucking tinkering and start leading!

Key doesn’t think we’ll have a problem with State Super until 2025, so why should HE worry about it?

Typical fucking Merchant Banker, thinks of today’s bonus, no thought to the morrow.
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October 16, 2011 8:14am
Tauhei Notts

Go the All Blacks
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October 16, 2011 8:16am
MyNameIsJack

What do you call 15 mates watching the rugby final at the pub?

The All Blacks

What do you do if you see an All Black Drowning?

Nothing, even if you save him now, he’ll still choke later on.
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October 16, 2011 8:18am
MyNameIsJack

Stolen from The Digital Cuttlefish

Herman Cain has a brilliant design
He’s condensed to a simple one line:
Will the GOP grow
From the party of “no!”
To the party of “Nein! Nein! Nein!”?
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October 16, 2011 8:20am
iMP

MyNameIsJack. Try adding water to the coffee…
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October 16, 2011 8:31am
tom hunter

8:20 on a Sunday morning and already BorkerJerk has Godwinned the thread.

A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject
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October 16, 2011 8:31am
Nookin

IMP
I think he put a tablespoon of chilli source into the cup. Either that or his puppy chewed his teddy bear
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October 16, 2011 8:34am
Other_Andy

NZ Herald

“Thousands of well-behaved protesters occupied city centres around New Zealand yesterday, claiming our country is controlled by corporate greed.”

Make that hundreds.
Those claiming to be the 99% turn out to be the (same old) 0.018%.
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October 16, 2011 8:40am
Scott Chris

tom hunter says:- “A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject”

This news just in:

Tom Hunter declared this morning that he admires and supports Barack Obama, and that he will no longer be posting opinion pieces concerning the fraught subject of American politics. 😉

Just kiddin’ tom. Enjoy reading your posts, parochial and thematically singular though they may be.
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October 16, 2011 8:43am
Scott Chris

The All Blacks will win the RWC.

I rate their chance of success at 80%.

The loss of Beale far outweighs the loss of Carter, so we’ll dick the Aussies by 10+.

Judging by that very poor quality game last night, we’ll easily deal to the frogs next week.
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October 16, 2011 8:49am
tom hunter

I’m just concerned about how much JerkBorker hates black people Scott. First Obama, now Cain.

It’s really terrible to find that sort of thing still alive and well in the 21st century!
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October 16, 2011 8:57am
MyNameIsJack

For bat shit crazy, it’s hard to go past the American Right. But for batshittiest Crazy, Michelle Bachmann is our go to gal.

Just listen to her tear apart Herman Cain’s 9-9-9 tax plan and turn it in to a religious issue.
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October 16, 2011 9:05am
Inventory2

@ MNIJ – so the Alliance isn’t polling too well these days? Sheesh; no wonder Canterbury has all these stereotype problems…
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October 16, 2011 9:07am
tom hunter

Wow – it just gets worse. Now BorkerJerk is hatin’ on the womenfolk too.

Blacks and Women eh. That wharfie DNA really does leave more than a trace.
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October 16, 2011 9:15am
KH

Oh Dear. A dreary week in NZ being nervous about the French. Do you know they don’t take the New Zealand Rugby team as seriously as they do themselves. How disrespectful.
Maybe the best thing is to lose to the Aussies straightup. That’s just another sort of dreary week.
Mind you one can always blame the ref. The one who sent off the Welshman. That will do.
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October 16, 2011 9:26am
Pauleastbay

You pay 83 thousand dollars for a ticket to a World Cup semi final and some stupid fucking Irishman over reacts and roots the game 19 minutes into it –
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October 16, 2011 9:41am
Inventory2

From the Herald:

Auckland protester Sheree Carbery, 40, supported the march with her 6-year-old son Braydon McCallum who joined in by shouting: “John Key is a donkey”.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10759386

Yep; nice to see the focus is on the issues that matter, and not on personal attacks…
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October 16, 2011 9:43am
Other_Andy

IV2

This one?

http://www.shereecarbery.com/who-am-i.html

“I am constantly learning, growing, evolving, receiving and giving to all that is bestowed upon me and my deepest prayer and highest intention is to shine this light out to the world to everyone I meet, touching them in a way that can only support them in their highest and best. ”

That is everyone BUT don-key…….
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October 16, 2011 9:55am
MyNameIsJack

Poor, poor Tom Hunter. Bought in to the Right’s “everybody hates us” agenda.

Disagreeing doesn’t equal hate, it equals debate, somthing the Theocons don’t understand. They’re still pissed we no longer allow them to burn us with faggots.

America the Brave has been turned in to Idiot America by a cabal of Theocons, tax lawyers voodoeconomists.
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October 16, 2011 10:03am
Tauhei Notts

I note that the informed people have dropped the Aussie odds from $3.10 to $2.70.
Just another turn of the tension screw.
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October 16, 2011 10:09am
tom hunter

Gawd – the “Mitt Romney is the inevitable nominee” media drumbeat is really cranking up, and gathering moneybags supporters as well:

“Mitt Romney grasps how a free economy works, and doesn’t think our current problems come from job-killing A.T.M.’s and evil rich people,” Mr. Asness wrote Thursday in an e-mail. “Nor does he think the solution is more stimulus, regulation and class warfare.”

Yeah, yeah. But in the previous paragraph from that NYT article we’re told that:

And Mr. Romney has also picked up the support of two Republican financiers who once supported President Obama: Daniel S. Loeb and Clifford S. Asness, both outspoken hedge fund managers who in recent months have sharply criticized the president and his fiscal or regulatory policies.

Quick questions for Mr Asness:
How were you enough of a dumbfuck that in 2008 all those aspects of Obama somehow escaped you? Did his honeyed words in private fund-raising sessions blind you so much that you could not be bothered getting off your ass to investigate his 20 years of marination in left-wing circles?
And if you are that dumb, why on earth would anybody trust your “judgement” about Mitt Romney? Are you actually as smart as you (and others) would imply your wealth makes you, or was it made the old-fashioned way through Wall Street/Ivy League connections?
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October 16, 2011 10:10am
Pauleastbay

Jack , What was America like the last time you spent anytime there?
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October 16, 2011 10:10am
joana

Other Andy
So NZ is not controlled by corporate greed? Pray tell.
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October 16, 2011 10:10am
Pauleastbay

Jack, Joana, we all know you Christchurch winners have a huge chip on your shoulders but ireally…………..
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October 16, 2011 10:15am
tom hunter

Considering how much BorkerJerk hates religion and blacks it must have been a tough call in 2008 to fully support a Black Liberation Theologist, especially when it’s white people they want to burn with faggots.

I guess far-left ideology finally overcame bigotry, which provides some hope for Jerk’s future I suppose. However, the subsequent betrayal of that ideology is only one explanation of his bitter anger about Barack.
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October 16, 2011 10:16am
Joseph Carpenter

More Occupy Wall St lols:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=539_1318434275
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrPGoPFRUdc&feature=player_embedded
Seriously do these people inhabit some alternate reality?
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October 16, 2011 10:16am
Michael

Four years ago, David wrote a post with no text and the title “Fuck!”. Will tonight be a repeat?

Of course not! ABs by 15!
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October 16, 2011 10:19am
Other_Andy

joana

“Other Andy. So NZ is not controlled by corporate greed? Pray tell.”

Don’t know where that came from but OK, I’ll bite.
Spin me your tale of conspiracy theories…..
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October 16, 2011 10:21am
joana

No Andy I wanted to hear your answer..You said this , much earlier on, You respond very intelligently on some topics so I genuinely wanted you hear your reasoning.
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October 16, 2011 10:28am
Other_Andy

“You said this , much earlier on…”

Sorry, where?
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October 16, 2011 10:30am
adze

On a different note, has anyone else had problems (error 1603 or 1611) when upgrading their iPhone/Pad to iOS5? I’m losing the “it just works” feelin’ here…
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October 16, 2011 10:31am
tom hunter

joana and Jerkoff provide a fascinating study in minature of how things got rolling in Europe 90 years ago and it will be interesting if see both of them are at the Occupy Christchurch protests.

She brings the National and he brings the Socialism.

And now I’ve just Godwinned the thread!!
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October 16, 2011 10:36am
mattyroo

joana said:

So NZ is not controlled by corporate greed?

You enrolled in a Kiwisaver fund joana?
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October 16, 2011 10:48am
Scott Chris

Was reminded again last night about Robert De Niro’s acting prowess and what a brilliant, prescient, chilling movie Martin Scorsese’s Taxi Driver is.

Frighteningly precocious performance by Jodie Foster playing a 13 year old prostitute.

Fell in love with Jodi as a kid watching Bugsy Malone. Sigh.
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October 16, 2011 10:56am
Manolo

Fingers crossed. The ABs should prevail, but anything and everything is possible.
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October 16, 2011 11:19am
reid

No Andy I wanted to hear your answer..You said this , much earlier on, You respond very intelligently on some topics so I genuinely wanted you hear your reasoning.

It’s just joana that many of us don’t actually really think NZ is controlled by corporate greed because that is not how our Westminster democracy is setup and it’s not how politics operates in this country.

If someone has a childish fantasy in their own mind about how people are being controlled by faceless malevolent entities then normally its the person with that fantasy who needs to explain it, not the other way round.

That’s how it normally works.
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October 16, 2011 11:33am
MyNameIsJack

Why do televangelists ask for money? Why don’t they just pray for it?
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October 16, 2011 11:36am
thedavincimode

Its interesting that Jerk is so derisive of the country that gave him safe haven from the Vietnam war.

Does he realise it is has finished, that Oz no longer has the draft, meaning that its safe for him to go home now.

Then he could grab a beer crate and stand on street corners telling passers by how he was prepared to be incarcerated for his principled stand aganst the war, and how unfortunately, urgent business in NZ disrupted his steely resolve.
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October 16, 2011 11:42am
thedavincimode

Manolo

Don’t be such a pussy.
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October 16, 2011 11:42am
tom hunter

…. meaning that its safe for him to go home now.

If he’s an Australian he could have fled to the US, where the draft would not have applied to him. Also it would have given him full scope to rant against televangelists on their home soil. Perhaps if he’d landed in Chicago he could even have protested at the Trinity church to prevent the rise of nasty Black Liberation Christians – Yep. Every week. 11 o’clock service..

That’s assuming he has principles of course – and courage.
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October 16, 2011 11:50am
Viking2

Nookin (1,243) Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 8:34 am

IMP
I think he put a tablespoon of chilli source into the cup. Either that or his puppy chewed his teddy bear

Nah, nah, nah, the puppy must have chewed his old fella for MNIJ to be such a grumpy stupid fountain of knowledgeable stuff so early on a Sunday, the Day of our Lord.

Clearly Our Lord forgot to hand him any happy Pills in Heaven this morning.

Either that or he missed out on his 72 Virgins or he has decided that the Aussies are going to win tonight but has serious doubts about his own capacity to reason. ( Mind you we all have those doubts about him).
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October 16, 2011 11:51am
thedavincimode

tom h

“That’s assuming he has principles of course – and courage.”

Good one, there’s your Tui billboard right there,
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October 16, 2011 11:53am
wat dabney

It’s Sunday.

Thank you God.

http://img.moonbuggy.org/spandex–thank-you-god/
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October 16, 2011 11:54am
tom hunter

Yah – I doubt he’ll be fooled again by a black Christian though, not after he swallowed his twin bigotries and poured his heart and soul into advancing the cause of socialism by barracking for Barack in 2008.

Although I note he’s effectively doing the same again by simply focusing on the other side of the political fence. Normally I would find such people lacking in standards but actually Jerkoff has two sets of standards.

And with that – it’s off into a glorious week of holidays!
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October 16, 2011 12:01pm
MyNameIsJack

So Sarah “The Quitter” Palin will not run for the presidential nomination.

So, how much did she screw from those who believed in her, and what has she done with those millions?

Nice work, if you can get. Like daughter, like mother, eh?
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October 16, 2011 12:26pm
Courage Wolf

wat dabney (840) Says:
October 16th, 2011 at 11:54 am

It’s Sunday.

Thank you God.

http://img.moonbuggy.org/spandex–thank-you-god/

That made me Ezekiel 23:20.
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October 16, 2011 12:32pm
reid

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1216/437/U.S._Scientist_Patents_Time_Machine.html

From an abstract associated with the patent, Pohlman explains:

“The method employs sinusoidal oscillations of electrical bombardment on the surface of one Kerr type singularity in close proximity to a second Kerr type singularity in such a method to take advantage of the Lense-Thirring effect, to simulate the effect of two point masses on nearly radial orbits in a 2+1 dimensional anti-de Sitter space resulting in creation of circular timelike geodesics conforming to the van Stockum under the Van Den Broeck modification of the Alcubierre geometry (Van Den Broeck 1999) permitting topology change from one spacelike boundary to the other in accordance with Geroch’s theorem (Geroch 1967) resulting in a method for the formation of Godel-type geodesically complete spacetime envelopes complete with closed timelike curves.”

Of course, it’s quite obvious. Why didn’t I think of that before?

If you think this is all a big joke, take a look at the patent filing here. Scroll down and study the schematics and check out the math.

What you’re looking at may not last much longer in full public view. If the finished product works the U.S. military will grab it, wipe all references to it, and plunge it into another one of their deep, dark black projects.
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October 16, 2011 12:33pm
thedavincimode

reid

whew. Does it run on fossil fuels?
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October 16, 2011 12:44pm
Fletch

I see Obama made some speech about how the wealthy aren’t taxed enough – FACT CHECK –

On average, the wealthiest people in America pay a lot more taxes than the middle class or the poor, according to private and government data. They pay at a higher rate, and as a group, they contribute a much larger share of the overall taxes collected by the federal government.

The 10% of households with the highest incomes pay more than half of all federal taxes. They pay more than 70% of federal income taxes, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

Story – http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/taxes/story/2011-09-20/buffett-tax-millionaires/50480226/1
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October 16, 2011 12:48pm
reid

The motive behind the occupiers.

Whilst I agree with their objective in that fractional reserve centralised banking is at the heart of our economic woes and should be destroyed immediately, I’m not sure that a non-violent sit-in style movement is going to make a jot of difference in terms of achieving such.

Effectively to change this one would need to replace virtually the entire Congress for long-term corrupt pork-belly practices over decades and generations, remove all of the lobbyists from every industry not just banking but big pharma, health, defence and all the rest of it, change the way the PACs operate in particular AIPAC but there are many more which need changing, re-structure campaign funding so election once again is based on merit not on how much money the winning candidate can bring to bear. And that’s just the political system in one country, it’s not the financial system and it’s not the military-industrial complex and both of those need to be changed, as well.

Then you move into the diplomatic field and you’d have to change the way the UN operates since the Security Council veto is obviously mis-used all the time by all sides so fuck that, you’d eliminate the CFR, then in the UK same with Chatham House, scatter the think tanks like the Tavistock Institute and the Rand Corporation to the four winds, change the relationship that the City has to the Monarchy, re-structure the Vatican, and on and on and on.

So I’m not sure all of that’s going to happen straight away based on a few people sitting in Hagley Park, but good on you for giving it a go.
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October 16, 2011 12:48pm
reid

Does it run on fossil fuels?

No I think he said it’s steam-powered, dvm.
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October 16, 2011 12:51pm
Michael

Fletch – just think, socialist maths say of they double the tax on the top 10% they’ll be paying 140%.
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October 16, 2011 1:03pm
reid

This is interesting.

This summer a little-known intelligence agency began seeking ideas from academic social scientists and corporations for ways to automatically scan the Internet in 21 Latin American countries for “big data,” according to a research proposal being circulated by the agency. The three-year experiment, to begin in April, is being financed by the Intelligence Advanced Research Projects Activity, or Iarpa (pronounced eye-AR-puh), part of the office of the director of national intelligence.

The automated data collection system is to focus on patterns of communication, consumption and movement of populations. It will use publicly accessible data, including Web search queries, blog entries, Internet traffic flow, financial market indicators, traffic webcams and changes in Wikipedia entries.

It is intended to be an entirely automated system, a “data eye in the sky” without human intervention, according to the program proposal…

…A similar project by their military sister organization, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, or Darpa, aims to automatically identify insurgent social networks in Afghanistan.
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October 16, 2011 1:04pm
thedavincimode

reid

I assumed that, but how do they produce the steam?

Waiting for falafula to run the numbers and make some sense out of it. It just brought back a lot of bad memories for me.
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October 16, 2011 1:05pm
reid

I assumed that, but how do they produce the steam?

Good point, dvm. The Gweenies will be all fwowny about this, won’t they. Never mind, hopefully someone will explain that this means one can travel to the magical time when Maori peacefully roamed the land without fighting each other at all ever, and that will help them to think maybe it’s a good thing, after all.

Waiting for falafula to run the numbers and make some sense out of it.

Me too. Dunno about you but personally I’m a bit rusty on the math behind the Van Den Broeck modification of the Alcubierre geometry. I did it in the 5th form and it was quite easy back then but you forget these things, after awhile.
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October 16, 2011 1:15pm
reid

This is a helpful article on the eve of the ~~semi-~~final, isn’t it.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/5792922/Why-do-the-All-Blacks-choke-at-the-World-Cup

I wonder who’s currently on sub-editor duty at Stuff? Whoever it is, thanks a lot.
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October 16, 2011 1:20pm
Pauleastbay

So Jack, I’m presuming you have never actually been outside Canterbury but are a world wide expert………. I’ll just add the ” ..on fuck all”
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October 16, 2011 1:20pm
thedavincimode

eastbay

Wrong. Jerk has been outside Canterbury; he in fact hails from across the ditch. Although he hasn’t been to Vietnam, which accounts for him being in Canterbury.
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October 16, 2011 1:52pm
Manolo

The clock is ticking: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/15/us-greece-pm-idUSTRE79E2A720111015
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October 16, 2011 2:13pm
Scott Chris

reid:- “If you think this is all a big joke, take a look at the patent filing here.”

Ingredients for a time machine.

1) Two rotating black holes. Just pick em up at your local hardware store.
2) Lense-Thirring effect.
3) Anti-de Sitter space
4) Alcubierre geometry
5) Godel-type geodesically complete spacetime envelopes

All these theoretical physical ideas are wikiediable, so if you could be bothered, you can see how fanciful this idea is.
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October 16, 2011 2:21pm
reid

One of Rupert Murdoch’s most senior European executives has resigned following Guardian inquiries about a circulation scam at News Corporation’s flagship newspaper, the Wall Street Journal.

The Guardian found evidence that the Journal had been channelling money through European companies in order to secretly buy thousands of copies of its own paper at a knock-down rate, misleading readers and advertisers about the Journal’s true circulation.

The bizarre scheme included a formal, written contract in which the Journal persuaded one company to co-operate by agreeing to publish articles that promoted its activities, a move which led some staff to accuse the paper’s management of violating journalistic ethics and jeopardising its treasured reputation for editorial quality.

Internal emails and documents suggest the scam was promoted by Andrew Langhoff, the European managing director of the Journal’s parent company, Dow Jones and Co, which was bought by Rupert Murdoch’s News Corporation in July 2007. Langhoff resigned on Tuesday.

The highly controversial activities were organised in London and focused on the Journal’s European edition, which circulates in the EU, Russia, and Africa. Senior executives in New York, including Murdoch’s right-hand man, Les Hinton, were alerted to the problems last year by an internal whistleblower and apparently chose to take no action. The whistleblower was then made redundant…

Scott, sometimes you take what I say a bit too seriously.
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October 16, 2011 2:28pm
Scott Chris

reid:- “sometimes you take what I say a bit too seriously.”

Not at all! I had fun looking the stuff up. Yours was an interesting post I thought.
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October 16, 2011 2:37pm
David Garrett

One of Winston Churchill’s lesser known quotes is “the best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter”…

For reasons that don’t matter i just flicked over to the Standard [ I know, I know!] to see what was exercising them today….Incredibly, there are posters (more than one) suggesting that the Rena is on the Astrolabe reef as a result of conspiracy by the government ( or at least condoned by it) to damage the reef so that it is no longer an ecological jewel (follow me here) an therefore blasting it out of existence is justifiable – or at least defendable – all to allow quicker turnaround times at the port of Tauranga!!

At first I thought it was a joke….sorta like a story in The Onion…then I realised it wasn’t…… God help us….
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October 16, 2011 2:41pm
reid

God help us….

I’m afraid since G-d put the reef there in the first place He probably won’t help us since He probably thinks it’s a bit silly we hit it in the first place since He’d made sure we knew where it was ages ago and it wasn’t moving at the time. Especially since the storm front that He’d had booked in the calendar for everyone to see since January last year, was about to arrive. I mean, really.

Of course it is impossible to comprehend the mind of G-d but if I were Him, that’s more or less what I’d be thinking.
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October 16, 2011 2:57pm
James Stephenson

Two thoughts occurring to me as I contemplate my first beer of a sunny afternoon:

1) Just WTF is the deal with this repeat-after-me bollocks at the Occupy protests?

2) Doesn’t Julian Assange’s media-whoring make you glad that we only have John Minto?
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October 16, 2011 3:15pm
reid

1) Just WTF is the deal with this repeat-after-me bollocks at the Occupy protests?

See my 12:48.

2) Doesn’t Julian Assange’s media-whoring make you glad that we only have John Minto?

No, I wish very much we didn’t have either of them.
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October 16, 2011 3:32pm
F E Smith

reid,

an interesting follow up to your 12.48 can be found here

EDIT: Oh, I see Fletch beat me to it here
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October 16, 2011 3:42pm
reid

Thanks for that FES and Fletch. I had become aware of that DoS threat a few days ago but didn’t connect the dots on that to my 12:48 link.

Seriously deluded, aren’t some people. Why don’t they do something effective and go and protest in Tavistock Square or something. Oh that’s right, they’re already based there…

Kidding.
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October 16, 2011 4:06pm
DavidC

When I come onto KB I get a pop up telling me that a script is running that is making my machine slow and would I like to stop it.
Any ideas how I can deal with this? Its a pain in the butt.
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October 16, 2011 4:10pm
Don the Kiwi

The lefties whingeing about the Astrolabe reef being where it is.

They don’t need to worry – about 2 miles south of Astrolabe is another reef, Okaparu reef – which isn’t exposed at low tide, but is roughly the same size as Astrolabe, and just below the surface.

If Astrolabe wasn’t there, the dickhead navigator could well have hit Okaparu. 🙂
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October 16, 2011 4:54pm
reid

When I come onto KB I get a pop up telling me that a script is running that is making my machine slow and would I like to stop it.

That’s just the standard capturing of private records, David.

Don’t worry about it, the SIS/GCSB just made a mistake, normally you don’t even notice it.

It’ll stop happening shortly once they figure out the bug and you’ll be back to normal.
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October 16, 2011 5:03pm
joe90

That’s just the standard capturing of private records, David

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/german-government-accused-of-spying-on-citizens-with-state-sponsored-trojan/4044

http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Staatstrojaner-Eine-Spionagesoftware-unter-anderem-aus-Bayern-1358091.html
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October 16, 2011 5:27pm
reid

Interesting geo-strategic development:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/turkmenistan/8820509/Turkmenistan-holds-worlds-second-largest-gas-field.html
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October 16, 2011 5:36pm
bereal

Reading the lamestream media today it appears that the left are now relying on the Rena
hitting the reef to give them an ace in the hole for the election.
When they win they will be able to continue to redistribute the wealth fairly.
MNIJ will be one of the first with his hand out. (he has been hard done by all his life, never had a real chance)
Poor sod.

Otherwise they seem to think they can rely on US demonsrations against coorporate greed to pull
the rabbit out of the hat for them. Helpfully assisted by eight losers camping in Hagley Park.
Pathetic morons.

MNIJ being a topical example of how truly desperate they are.
Just full of hate and envy for anybody who achieves.
Whats with these losers ?
Hey, MNIJ do you really believe you deserve some of my money ?
That would only be fair. Right?
My Grandfather explained that if it’s not fair and it’s not right, it must be the left side of
a niggers arse.
So get off yours and work.
Try it MNIJ
Communism didn’t work. Get it ?
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October 16, 2011 5:37pm
reid

How come the Gweens don’t post this public warning?

http://www.otherworld.ellisctaylor.com/EX_SA_013_Energy_Saving_Bulbs_Warning.pdf

Aren’t alarmists disgusting for their responsibility in (a) promoting by legislation we have to put poison into our houses under the guise of “it’s good for the eviwonment” and (b) never ever giving us any info about this apparently excruciatingly deleterious downside when anyone with any bwains at all must have known about this unfortunate side-effect since way-back and if ya didn’t, then why not?
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October 16, 2011 7:10pm
nasska

reid

I think there were warnings issued not long before the last election about the time the shower head fiasco was looming. Unlike the hysterical screaming that accompanies the recalls retail chains issue from time to time the MSM seemed to treat the threat very casually…..probably thought it might impact on their luddite mates in the Green & socialist parties.

Once again those who only want to help by doing our thinking for us would rather a hundred people died from mercury poisoning than risk the ’cause’.
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October 16, 2011 7:49pm
plebe

Thank god Mr Key made $5000000 why being our PM and getting NZ a down grade in our credit rating SIGH.As i say a ex money market dealer,who dosnt make a profit why in charge of a countries finances could be called a rorting failure.
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October 16, 2011 7:52pm
Other_Andy

Amazing, the sense of entitlement.
Do some New Zealanders have no sense of reality?
(OK, rethorical question…)
Just watched some Kiwis whining on 60 minutes that they don’t have the same rights (to benefits) as Australians.
People who moved over the ditch think that Australia should be as generous with their tax payers money as New Zealand.
Anybody working (or not) in New Zealand and isn’t a New Zealander gets the same benefits as New Zealanders.
The Australians aren’t that stupid.
They are complaining it isn’t fair……..
(Tui add coming up….)
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October 16, 2011 7:54pm
nasska

I was watching a Rugby World Cup final on TV.

The All Blacks won.

It was on a VHS tape I bought from a car boot sale.
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October 16, 2011 8:02pm
reid

Thank god Mr Key made $5000000 why being our PM and getting NZ a down grade in our credit rating SIGH.As i say a ex money market dealer,who dosnt make a profit why in charge of a countries finances could be called a rorting failure.

Crikey plebe, why is that?
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October 16, 2011 8:21pm
joana

Tom
Not very accurate but I’ll give you credit for trying…I am home watching the telly.
As I have written before , the crowd around the guy from Unite are members of ”Beyond Resistance ” an anarchist group in CHCH linked to other anarchist groups all over the world…this is how they have been able to mobilise so easily; they are almost all anarchists; part of an international movement. I actually find their ideas scary.
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October 16, 2011 8:29pm
plebe

Sigh i wish i didnt post (like most NZs) arseholes run/post on blogs, getting abused is the sin for posting GO THE BLACKS
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October 16, 2011 9:59pm
Other_Andy

This it it!
Compared to Australia , France is a walk-over.
RWC champions 2011.
Well done All-Blacks
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October 16, 2011 10:50pm
reid

Hooray!
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October 16, 2011 10:56pm
Other_Andy

And kudos to the Australians.
Gracious in defeat.
James O’Connor is a fantastic player, somebody to watch out for in the future.
Four more years!
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October 16, 2011 11:03pm
joana

Plebe,
Ignore the abuse. Rise above it. The abusers are the undignified ones. They never learned the basic rule of the game. Play the ball , not the man.
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October 17, 2011 6:18am
joana

Don’t underestimate the French but well done Richie and co.
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October 17, 2011 6:19am
Lance

@Other Andy
If it’s all fair enough then why are Aus happy to take full tax off NZers working there but offer fuck all back?

Could it be greed at it’s worst?
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